Guest guest Posted May 19, 2008 Report Share Posted May 19, 2008 We have been allowing Lily to run around the house w/o bottoms so that she is able to get to the potty. I was packing some things (we move in 28 days!) and she was walking on the bubble wrap. She started looking frantically for the potty and kept repeating " Potty chair, potty chair " . She ran over and sat. Just as she was sitting, a little squirt of poo slid down the side of the chair, but everything else made it in! LOL About 15 minutes later, my husband was telling my mother in law the story, and Lily ran into the kitchen and didn't even look for the potty chair. She squatted on the kitchen floor and more smooshy poo came out. Like, she heard and understood what they wer talking about and wanted to show her, too! LOL It was super gross and cute at the same time Cassie Missie Ward <mszzzi wrote: My son is in the latter 10% that was not. He's nearly 5 now (next month) and he's finally (hopefully) gotten through all this. It's a long story, and we never started until he was asking us about it - which was at 18 mo's and then we were on a car trip to help my grandma move and sell her house after my grandpa died, and the auto-flush toilets took care of that for about a year or so before we could even mention it again. It had since been on again/off again and for nearly a year, but the last 4 weeks, after a chat and a doc visit (we suspected possibly he had encopresis, but turns out he was and is just headstrong and strong willed. The visit took out the butting heads with us on having him use the potty, as it was 'Doctor's orders' that he sit 30min's after every meal, not our decision or rules). Worked fine. In the begining before we were sabbotaged by the auto-flush we did go from cloth to undies, but we used the vinyl ones that were lined, and I also found a pattern online for sewing fleece ones that looked like shorts, and you just laid the cloth diaper in there. I also knit some pull up type covers for them, from acrylic which worked fine despite what you can find online for the most part (I did find some places folks said acrylic worked for them and I had some, and tried it, and they did work, but not entirely for overnights if it was a heavy wetting night). We switched to whatever diapers that whole foods had that were unbleached and I think biodegradable for overnights or our son would never sleep through the night. He still has issues overnight, but is completely fine during the day. If you have any questions on how to start, we used the dr. sears site (I think it's www.askdrsears.com) they have a checklist to be sure your child is ready first, and some helpful things on starting and what not, even for the reluctant child...of course our case was in the minority, and circumstances were off for us, but I know what we got from there worked very well when he was in a positive/receptive mood for it. He's different now, so none of the info we had would work for him since he was a much later 'bloomer'. If you have any questions, you can also ask me, as I think we did it ALL, but the headstrong child had his own agenda back then. LOL. It's funny now, but like someone else mentioned, it is a very frustrating process. If it's nto working, put it away for a month or so, until they're receptive to the idea again and try then. :)Just be sure they're ready to start, and be sure you're ready for it too, as accidents do, and will happen when you start (some have children that take to it easier than others). Good luck, and I hope it goes fast for you! Missie On Fri, May 16, 2008 at 2:32 PM, chandelle' <earthmother213 wrote: > being potty " trained " generally only refers to day time dryness. 80% - > 90% > of kids are dry all day by 4. night dryness is generally not considered > something that can be taught or learned. it comes with physiological > development. my son still gets a diaper at night and he will until his body > is ready to hold urine all night. but he's dry all day, which is what > " potty trained " really means, clinically. > > chandelle > > > On Fri, May 16, 2008 at 11:43 AM, <danitamark<danitamark%40earthlink.net>> > wrote: > > > for future reference since a large portion of kids struggle with night > > time dryness even after being " trained " > > > > I highly reccommend > > > > Dry All Night: The Picture Book Technique That Stops Bedwetting by Alison > > Mack > > > > I think it's out of print but you can find it online. > > > > there's a section for kids to read and a sectio for parents to read. > great > > images for kids to process before they go to sleep. > > > > D > > > > > > > > -- > " if voting changed anything, they'd make it illegal. " > > ~emma goldman > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 19, 2008 Report Share Posted May 19, 2008 i think nakedness is one of the best things for being able to use the potty. for a year, from about 18 months to 2 1/2-3, my son would use the potty 100% of the time, for pee and poop, if he was naked. chandelle On Sun, May 18, 2008 at 6:48 PM, Cassie Dixon <roxy87cabriolet wrote: > We have been allowing Lily to run around the house w/o bottoms so that > she is able to get to the potty. I was packing some things (we move in 28 > days!) and she was walking on the bubble wrap. She started looking > frantically for the potty and kept repeating " Potty chair, potty chair " . She > ran over and sat. Just as she was sitting, a little squirt of poo slid down > the side of the chair, but everything else made it in! LOL > About 15 minutes later, my husband was telling my mother in law the story, > and Lily ran into the kitchen and didn't even look for the potty chair. She > squatted on the kitchen floor and more smooshy poo came out. Like, she heard > and understood what they wer talking about and wanted to show her, too! LOL > > It was super gross and cute at the same time > Cassie > > Missie Ward <mszzzi <mszzzi%40gmail.com>> wrote: My son is in > the latter 10% that was not. He's nearly 5 now (next month) and > he's finally (hopefully) gotten through all this. > > It's a long story, and we never started until he was asking us about it - > which was at 18 mo's and then we were on a car trip to help my grandma move > and sell her house after my grandpa died, and the auto-flush toilets took > care of that for about a year or so before we could even mention it again. > It had since been on again/off again and for nearly a year, but the last 4 > weeks, after a chat and a doc visit (we suspected possibly he had > encopresis, but turns out he was and is just headstrong and strong willed. > The visit took out the butting heads with us on having him use the potty, > as > it was 'Doctor's orders' that he sit 30min's after every meal, not our > decision or rules). Worked fine. > > In the begining before we were sabbotaged by the auto-flush we did go from > cloth to undies, but we used the vinyl ones that were lined, and I also > found a pattern online for sewing fleece ones that looked like shorts, and > you just laid the cloth diaper in there. I also knit some pull up type > covers for them, from acrylic which worked fine despite what you can find > online for the most part (I did find some places folks said acrylic worked > for them and I had some, and tried it, and they did work, but not entirely > for overnights if it was a heavy wetting night). We switched to whatever > diapers that whole foods had that were unbleached and I think biodegradable > for overnights or our son would never sleep through the night. > He still has issues overnight, but is completely fine during the day. > If you have any questions on how to start, we used the dr. sears site (I > think it's www.askdrsears.com) they have a checklist to be sure your child > is ready first, and some helpful things on starting and what not, even for > the reluctant child...of course our case was in the minority, and > circumstances were off for us, but I know what we got from there worked > very > well when he was in a positive/receptive mood for it. He's different now, > so > none of the info we had would work for him since he was a much later > 'bloomer'. > > If you have any questions, you can also ask me, as I think we did it ALL, > but the headstrong child had his own agenda back then. LOL. It's funny now, > but like someone else mentioned, it is a very frustrating process. If it's > nto working, put it away for a month or so, until they're receptive to the > idea again and try then. :)Just be sure they're ready to start, and be sure > you're ready for it too, as accidents do, and will happen when you start > (some have children that take to it easier than others). > > Good luck, and I hope it goes fast for you! > Missie > > On Fri, May 16, 2008 at 2:32 PM, chandelle' <earthmother213<earthmother213%40gmail.com> > > > wrote: > > > being potty " trained " generally only refers to day time dryness. 80% - > > 90% > > of kids are dry all day by 4. night dryness is generally not considered > > something that can be taught or learned. it comes with physiological > > development. my son still gets a diaper at night and he will until his > body > > is ready to hold urine all night. but he's dry all day, which is what > > " potty trained " really means, clinically. > > > > chandelle > > > > > > On Fri, May 16, 2008 at 11:43 AM, <danitamark<danitamark%40earthlink.net> > <danitamark%40earthlink.net>> > > wrote: > > > > > for future reference since a large portion of kids struggle with night > > > time dryness even after being " trained " > > > > > > I highly reccommend > > > > > > Dry All Night: The Picture Book Technique That Stops Bedwetting by > Alison > > > Mack > > > > > > I think it's out of print but you can find it online. > > > > > > there's a section for kids to read and a sectio for parents to read. > > great > > > images for kids to process before they go to sleep. > > > > > > D > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > " if voting changed anything, they'd make it illegal. " > > > > ~emma goldman > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 19, 2008 Report Share Posted May 19, 2008 My daughter pretty much trained herself somewhere between 2 1/2 and 3. We just let her run around with underpants (or nothing) on and she never really had an accident. We also never did the little potty thing, just got her a small toddler seat that sits on top of the big toilet. She's also learned to hold it for a long time - even longer than I can! (we call her our little camel). But at almost 4, she's still wearing pull-ups at night (the unbleached ones from Whole Foods). She'll make it through the night once in a while, but typically sleeps so soundly, she just doesn't wake up and realize she needs to go to the bathroom. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 19, 2008 Report Share Posted May 19, 2008 Ooops, hit send before I added this link: www.kidbean.com I got a few training pants from this site, it's vegan run and got some very nice things for kids (and the planet). Never really used the training pants, my daughter preferred the feel of underpants, and they really helped her see that there was a big difference between diapers and 'big kid' underpants (although she sometimes put the training pants on for fun!) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 19, 2008 Report Share Posted May 19, 2008 I agree w/ the going w/o bottoms. We started out doing that and as soon as we tried to have her start wearing pants (comfy pants as we call them...any easy to pull up and down elastic waist pants) it threw everything for a loop. It took a while before she was back on track. I agree with other comments that every child is different in their learning to use the potty. I'm extremely intrigued by the EC approach now. I have a friend with 4 children who took that approach and they had all learned well before they were 2. She has two boys and two girls. I didn't learn about that route until my little one was almost two. If we have another I think I'll give it a shot. My approach...I just took in all the info I was getting from people and books, and came up with what I felt comfortable doing (mind you nothing was super comfortable, honestly I was more nervous about potty learning than anything else I've done so far as a parent). Two books I purchased that had some good advice were " Potty Free before 3 " and " The No-Cry Potty Training Solution " . -Nancy , chandelle' <earthmother213 wrote: > > i think nakedness is one of the best things for being able to use the > potty. for a year, from about 18 months to 2 1/2-3, my son would use the > potty 100% of the time, for pee and poop, if he was naked. > > chandelle > > On Sun, May 18, 2008 at 6:48 PM, Cassie Dixon <roxy87cabriolet > wrote: > > > We have been allowing Lily to run around the house w/o bottoms so that > > she is able to get to the potty. I was packing some things (we move in 28 > > days!) and she was walking on the bubble wrap. She started looking > > frantically for the potty and kept repeating " Potty chair, potty chair " . She > > ran over and sat. Just as she was sitting, a little squirt of poo slid down > > the side of the chair, but everything else made it in! LOL > > About 15 minutes later, my husband was telling my mother in law the story, > > and Lily ran into the kitchen and didn't even look for the potty chair. She > > squatted on the kitchen floor and more smooshy poo came out. Like, she heard > > and understood what they wer talking about and wanted to show her, too! LOL > > > > It was super gross and cute at the same time > > Cassie > > > > Missie Ward <mszzzi <mszzzi%40gmail.com>> wrote: My son is in > > the latter 10% that was not. He's nearly 5 now (next month) and > > he's finally (hopefully) gotten through all this. > > > > It's a long story, and we never started until he was asking us about it - > > which was at 18 mo's and then we were on a car trip to help my grandma move > > and sell her house after my grandpa died, and the auto-flush toilets took > > care of that for about a year or so before we could even mention it again. > > It had since been on again/off again and for nearly a year, but the last 4 > > weeks, after a chat and a doc visit (we suspected possibly he had > > encopresis, but turns out he was and is just headstrong and strong willed. > > The visit took out the butting heads with us on having him use the potty, > > as > > it was 'Doctor's orders' that he sit 30min's after every meal, not our > > decision or rules). Worked fine. > > > > In the begining before we were sabbotaged by the auto-flush we did go from > > cloth to undies, but we used the vinyl ones that were lined, and I also > > found a pattern online for sewing fleece ones that looked like shorts, and > > you just laid the cloth diaper in there. I also knit some pull up type > > covers for them, from acrylic which worked fine despite what you can find > > online for the most part (I did find some places folks said acrylic worked > > for them and I had some, and tried it, and they did work, but not entirely > > for overnights if it was a heavy wetting night). We switched to whatever > > diapers that whole foods had that were unbleached and I think biodegradable > > for overnights or our son would never sleep through the night. > > He still has issues overnight, but is completely fine during the day. > > If you have any questions on how to start, we used the dr. sears site (I > > think it's www.askdrsears.com) they have a checklist to be sure your child > > is ready first, and some helpful things on starting and what not, even for > > the reluctant child...of course our case was in the minority, and > > circumstances were off for us, but I know what we got from there worked > > very > > well when he was in a positive/receptive mood for it. He's different now, > > so > > none of the info we had would work for him since he was a much later > > 'bloomer'. > > > > If you have any questions, you can also ask me, as I think we did it ALL, > > but the headstrong child had his own agenda back then. LOL. It's funny now, > > but like someone else mentioned, it is a very frustrating process. If it's > > nto working, put it away for a month or so, until they're receptive to the > > idea again and try then. :)Just be sure they're ready to start, and be sure > > you're ready for it too, as accidents do, and will happen when you start > > (some have children that take to it easier than others). > > > > Good luck, and I hope it goes fast for you! > > Missie > > > > On Fri, May 16, 2008 at 2:32 PM, chandelle' <earthmother213<earthmother213%40gmail.com> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > being potty " trained " generally only refers to day time dryness. 80% - > > > 90% > > > of kids are dry all day by 4. night dryness is generally not considered > > > something that can be taught or learned. it comes with physiological > > > development. my son still gets a diaper at night and he will until his > > body > > > is ready to hold urine all night. but he's dry all day, which is what > > > " potty trained " really means, clinically. > > > > > > chandelle > > > > > > > > > On Fri, May 16, 2008 at 11:43 AM, <danitamark<danitamark%40earthlink.net> > > <danitamark%40earthlink.net>> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > for future reference since a large portion of kids struggle with night > > > > time dryness even after being " trained " > > > > > > > > I highly reccommend > > > > > > > > Dry All Night: The Picture Book Technique That Stops Bedwetting by > > Alison > > > > Mack > > > > > > > > I think it's out of print but you can find it online. > > > > > > > > there's a section for kids to read and a sectio for parents to read. > > > great > > > > images for kids to process before they go to sleep. > > > > > > > > D > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > " if voting changed anything, they'd make it illegal. " > > > > > > ~emma goldman > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 21, 2008 Report Share Posted May 21, 2008 I have been unsuccessful at training my 2 year old. He will sit on the potty, but gets restless in a minute or two. Yesterday, he took off his diaper, walked about 15 feet away and pooped on the rug! He couldn't do it on out cement floor, he had to do it on the rug! Why he did it all, I will never know. Of course, I was out of the room at the time. Ugh!! Luckily it was an easy clean up. I put overalls on him for the rest of the day, so his diaper could not " magically disappear " ! (He hides them under his bed!) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 22, 2008 Report Share Posted May 22, 2008 My kids could not sit still for long either, and sometimes despite my best efforts they still went on the floor! Some pretty disgusting moments there! I did try to leave their diapers and bottoms off when potty training at home, but you have to watch them closely, and take them to the potty often. One time I didn't and my husbands old laptop has never been the same-crazy story. I would not force him to sit there, because that could lead to power struggles. Just try to keep the potty training positive. I would try to take him to the potty like every half hour to hour, keep a diaper or something on for naps at first. Good luck with the training! And it really is over soon. Laura Ballinger Morales S & T <itshotinjt04 Wednesday, May 21, 2008 1:33:38 PM Re: [) training pants/story I have been unsuccessful at training my 2 year old. He will sit on the potty, but gets restless in a minute or two. Yesterday, he took off his diaper, walked about 15 feet away and pooped on the rug! He couldn't do it on out cement floor, he had to do it on the rug! Why he did it all, I will never know. Of course, I was out of the room at the time. Ugh!! Luckily it was an easy clean up. I put overalls on him for the rest of the day, so his diaper could not " magically disappear " ! (He hides them under his bed!) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 23, 2008 Report Share Posted May 23, 2008 I think we make a bigger deal about potty training when we view a potty chair differently from other chairs. No one worries about sitting a child on a couch to read books or in a high chair to eat. We treat the potty chair like a regular chair and pull a low table up to it. A child can color, do puzzles, play with stickers, put pennies in a piggy bank -- something fun. Then celebrate the times your child accidentally uses the potty. We are ECers now but with my first we had a " potty chair TV " she could only watch a movie as long as she was sitting on the potty chair. Made sitting sound attractive and meant that watching TV all day was not going to happen. We got a chart and whenever she used her potty we wrote a smilie face on it. She loved it and because it was all positive we never had any problems. At 2 1/2 she announced she wanted to wear underwear. She wore it and stayed dry but then would ask to put on a diaper to poop. I told her I would buy her a porcelain doll if she would poop on the potty. 4 days and 4 dolls later she was done. My advice is to not sweat it so much. Just because you as the parent know it is a big step and an important stage for your child doesn't mean it has to be a stressful event for your child. Have fun, Martha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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