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[Guest guest]

Any thoughts on this?

Kat

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Tuesday, June 10, 2008 10:58 AM

[natural-health-forum] Parents of girl brought up on vegan diet may

face charges

 

 

 

Parents of girl brought up on vegan diet may face charges

by Bethany Sanders Jun 10th 2008 10:00AM

 

 

 

Parents of a 12-year-old Scottish girl may face charges after the child

was brought to the hospital with a degenerative bone disease. Doctors say that

she has the spine of an 80-year-old, caused by a severe case of rickets, which

occurs when a person does not get enough vitamin D. In addition to her curved

spine, she also has had several broken bones.

 

Though doctors are not yet commenting on the case, some feel that her

condition was caused by the strict vegan diet she was raised on since birth.

Vegan diets don't allow meat, fish, or dairy, which are good sources of vitamin

D (as is the sun).

 

Last year, a couple was sentenced to life in prison for letting their

newborn starve on what they perceived to be a vegan diet. Since then, the

question has been asked again and again: Are vegan diets safe for kids? The

trend has nutritionists concerned, that's for sure.

In our own home, we've toyed with vegetarianism several times, but we've

never, ever restricted what our kids ate. It takes a lot of research, thought,

and meal planning to get the correct balance of nutrients on a vegan diet, not

just a strong desire to avoid animal products.

 

Kids have different nutritional needs than adults, so to feed them

properly on a restricted diet, you really have to know your stuff. If I was

going to go that route (and I'm not), I'd even go so far as to talk to a

nutritionist first. Sadly, however, cases like the ones in this article, where

parents let their enthusiasm for their beliefs get ahead of good nutrition, keep

popping up.

 

To read more about how to feed kids a healthy, well-balanced vegetarian

diet, visit Kids Health.

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

along these lines can parents of obese children be arrested. They are killing

their children also.

 

 

 

Thomas and Kathy Hildebrand <owner

 

Tuesday, June 10, 2008 2:28:04 PM

Fw: [natural-health-forum] Parents of girl brought up on

vegan diet may face charges

 

 

Any thoughts on this?

Kat

-

haley williams

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s.com ; organiclife@ googl. com

Tuesday, June 10, 2008 10:58 AM

[natural-health- forum] Parents of girl brought up on vegan diet may

face charges

 

Parents of girl brought up on vegan diet may face charges

by Bethany Sanders Jun 10th 2008 10:00AM

 

Parents of a 12-year-old Scottish girl may face charges after the child was

brought to the hospital with a degenerative bone disease. Doctors say that she

has the spine of an 80-year-old, caused by a severe case of rickets, which

occurs when a person does not get enough vitamin D. In addition to her curved

spine, she also has had several broken bones.

 

Though doctors are not yet commenting on the case, some feel that her condition

was caused by the strict vegan diet she was raised on since birth. Vegan diets

don't allow meat, fish, or dairy, which are good sources of vitamin D (as is the

sun).

 

Last year, a couple was sentenced to life in prison for letting their newborn

starve on what they perceived to be a vegan diet. Since then, the question has

been asked again and again: Are vegan diets safe for kids? The trend has

nutritionists concerned, that's for sure.

In our own home, we've toyed with vegetarianism several times, but we've never,

ever restricted what our kids ate. It takes a lot of research, thought, and meal

planning to get the correct balance of nutrients on a vegan diet, not just a

strong desire to avoid animal products.

 

Kids have different nutritional needs than adults, so to feed them properly on a

restricted diet, you really have to know your stuff. If I was going to go that

route (and I'm not), I'd even go so far as to talk to a nutritionist first.

Sadly, however, cases like the ones in this article, where parents let their

enthusiasm for their beliefs get ahead of good nutrition, keep popping up.

 

To read more about how to feed kids a healthy, well-balanced vegetarian diet,

visit Kids Health.

 

 

[Guest guest]

i worry about the vitamin D issue myself. ergocalciferol is not as

dependable a source for vitamin D as cholecalciferol. i think this IS an

issue that we vegan parents needs to be VERY informed about, especially for

women and children. we may get plenty of calcium in our diets, but

magnesium and vitamin D are just as important; in fact, the ratios of these

three nutrients are a neglected issue of utmost importance i've taken steps

to be sure that my children are exposed to direct morning sunlight (without

sunblock, which can block absorption up to 95%) for about 15 minutes a day,

and the same for me. our last winter was very long and hard and we didn't

get much sunlight for weeks at a time. i am making a concerted effort to

get enough natural vitamin D into my own body and that of my kids so we can

make it through next winter; vitamin D is stored.

 

i do find it bizarre, the idea being perpetuated that all animal products

are good natural sources of vitamin D. fish and eggs are the only good

natural animal sources of vitamin D. the only reason cow's milk contains

vitamin D is because it's been fortified. it's basically no different than

a supplement. if one wanted to take a supplement of vitamin D, thereby

avoiding a harmful intake of dairy milk, the effect would be no different.

 

it is frustrating to me that every little opportunity is jumped upon to

attack a vegan diet. when kids come down with type II diabetes, those

parents who have raised their kids on very high fat, high sugar, SADs aren't

arrested or tried for neglect or abuse, and yet type II diabetes in children

is no less debilitating or preventable than rickets and no less driven by

ideology and choice of lifestyle.

 

it does require a lot of thought and planning to keep a vegan diet healthy

for kids. it takes a lot of thought and planning to keep any diet healthy,

in fact. i'd venture to say that most vegan parents put a lot more thought

into it than plenty of other people. and sometimes it fails. the diet is

not for everyone. this little girl, growing up in scotland, which i believe

is a very overcast, rainy country, probably wasn't exposed to enough

sunlight to compensate for a lack of cholecalciferol in the diet. her

parents should indeed have been aware of this issue and compensated

accordingly, but they didn't, perhaps because they believed that abundant

ergocalciferol would be sufficient to fill her needs, which is probably true

for some people, but not all. and many circumstances beyond diet can cause

problems with vitamin D; perhaps there was an undiagnosed genetic or

malabsorption issue at hand. according to this article, the girl's doctors

have not named the real cause of her rickets, and yet the article's author,

just like sally fallon, nina planck and several opportunists before her,

have jumped on the chance to malign a diet that they obviously already find

doubtable. the very mentioning of the couple who were sentenced for their

baby's death is indicative of the intentions behind this attack: according

to the prosecutor, that child didn't die from a vegan diet, from being

deprived of cow's milk and meat that he wouldn't have consumed in the first

weeks of life anyway. that child died from starvation from not being fed

much of anything at all.

 

" never, ever restrict[ing] what our kids [eat] " is much more of a problem in

our culture than conscientiously considering what goes into their mouths at

all time, weighing the benefits and risks of various foods and being sure

that our children get the best of what's available from ALL angles, as most

vegetarian families do.

 

chandelle

 

On Tue, Jun 10, 2008 at 12:28 PM, Thomas and Kathy Hildebrand <

owner wrote:

 

> Any thoughts on this?

> Kat

> -

> haley williams

> To:

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> natural-health-forum <natural-health-forum%40>;

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> Tuesday, June 10, 2008 10:58 AM

> [natural-health-forum] Parents of girl brought up on vegan diet

> may face charges

>

> Parents of girl brought up on vegan diet may face charges

> by Bethany Sanders Jun 10th 2008 10:00AM

>

> Parents of a 12-year-old Scottish girl may face charges after the child was

> brought to the hospital with a degenerative bone disease. Doctors say that

> she has the spine of an 80-year-old, caused by a severe case of rickets,

> which occurs when a person does not get enough vitamin D. In addition to her

> curved spine, she also has had several broken bones.

>

> Though doctors are not yet commenting on the case, some feel that her

> condition was caused by the strict vegan diet she was raised on since birth.

> Vegan diets don't allow meat, fish, or dairy, which are good sources of

> vitamin D (as is the sun).

>

> Last year, a couple was sentenced to life in prison for letting their

> newborn starve on what they perceived to be a vegan diet. Since then, the

> question has been asked again and again: Are vegan diets safe for kids? The

> trend has nutritionists concerned, that's for sure.

> In our own home, we've toyed with vegetarianism several times, but we've

> never, ever restricted what our kids ate. It takes a lot of research,

> thought, and meal planning to get the correct balance of nutrients on a

> vegan diet, not just a strong desire to avoid animal products.

>

> Kids have different nutritional needs than adults, so to feed them properly

> on a restricted diet, you really have to know your stuff. If I was going to

> go that route (and I'm not), I'd even go so far as to talk to a nutritionist

> first. Sadly, however, cases like the ones in this article, where parents

> let their enthusiasm for their beliefs get ahead of good nutrition, keep

> popping up.

>

> To read more about how to feed kids a healthy, well-balanced vegetarian

> diet, visit Kids Health.

>

>

[Guest guest]

My only thought is that it is a bunch of crap. & nbsp; When will parents of ten

year olds with type two diabetes due to horrid diets be brought up on

charges? & nbsp; When will parents of two year olds with soda in the baby bottle

be arrested? Grrrr

 

--- On Tue, 6/10/08, Thomas and Kathy Hildebrand & lt;owner & gt; wrote:

 

Thomas and Kathy Hildebrand & lt;owner & gt;

Fw: [natural-health-forum] Parents of girl brought up on

vegan diet may face charges

 

Tuesday, June 10, 2008, 1:28 PM

 

 

 

 

 

 

Any thoughts on this?

Kat

-

haley williams

natural-health- forum@googlegrou ps.com ; natural-health- forum@

s.com ; organiclife@ googl. com

Tuesday, June 10, 2008 10:58 AM

[natural-health- forum] Parents of girl brought up on vegan diet may

face charges

 

Parents of girl brought up on vegan diet may face charges

by Bethany Sanders Jun 10th 2008 10:00AM

 

Parents of a 12-year-old Scottish girl may face charges after the child was

brought to the hospital with a degenerative bone disease. Doctors say that she

has the spine of an 80-year-old, caused by a severe case of rickets, which

occurs when a person does not get enough vitamin D. In addition to her curved

spine, she also has had several broken bones.

 

Though doctors are not yet commenting on the case, some feel that her condition

was caused by the strict vegan diet she was raised on since birth. Vegan diets

don't allow meat, fish, or dairy, which are good sources of vitamin D (as is the

sun).

 

Last year, a couple was sentenced to life in prison for letting their newborn

starve on what they perceived to be a vegan diet. Since then, the question has

been asked again and again: Are vegan diets safe for kids? The trend has

nutritionists concerned, that's for sure.

In our own home, we've toyed with vegetarianism several times, but we've never,

ever restricted what our kids ate. It takes a lot of research, thought, and meal

planning to get the correct balance of nutrients on a vegan diet, not just a

strong desire to avoid animal products.

 

Kids have different nutritional needs than adults, so to feed them properly on a

restricted diet, you really have to know your stuff. If I was going to go that

route (and I'm not), I'd even go so far as to talk to a nutritionist first.

Sadly, however, cases like the ones in this article, where parents let their

enthusiasm for their beliefs get ahead of good nutrition, keep popping up.

 

To read more about how to feed kids a healthy, well-balanced vegetarian diet,

visit Kids Health.

 

 

[Guest guest]

first of all, hello. i know i almost never post here.

 

second of all (and i'm working very hard to censor myself here because this

is a sore subject for me and i tend to swear like a sailor on leave). it

irritates me that the press will point out that the child was being raised

as a vegan, when in truth the child's condition is more a result of parental

negligence. i'm not claiming that the parents in any of the recent media

nightmares were abusive, at least not in the way that we think of abuse. but

it seems that the parents were mis- and/or underinformed.

 

i love that the articles always manage to equate malnourishment to

vegetarianism and veganism only; however, you never (or at least i haven't)

find stories in the mainstream media telling of the health benefits of

vegetarianism and veganism in children. it personally infuriates me. i think

that the parents in question need parenting and nutrition classes with

licensed professionals, not imprisonment. in every case that i've researched

it has not been done maliciously, yet these poor idiots are treated the same

as rapists and murderers. why is it so important to make an example of

people? i truly believe that more good would be done through education and

rehabilitation than imprisonment.

 

what burns my toast the most in this most recent situation? how is it that

the child got to the age of 12 and no one noticed anything wrong? how did no

one step in sooner and ask the *child* what she had been eating (or not

eating)? not to mention, what 12-year-old on the planet doesn't rebel? if

the child were unhappy with her diet or lifestyle, she would have said or

done something. maybe there's a cultural barrier there, but i'm a native of

the UK and we're not exactly shy with our opinions...

 

Parents of girl brought up on vegan diet may face charges

>

> Parents of girl brought up on vegan diet may face charges

> by Bethany Sanders Jun 10th 2008 10:00AM

>

> Parents of a 12-year-old Scottish girl may face charges after the child was

> brought to the hospital with a degenerative bone disease. Doctors say that

> she has the spine of an 80-year-old, caused by a severe case of rickets,

> which occurs when a person does not get enough vitamin D. In addition to her

> curved spine, she also has had several broken bones.

>

> Though doctors are not yet commenting on the case, some feel that her

> condition was caused by the strict vegan diet she was raised on since birth.

> Vegan diets don't allow meat, fish, or dairy, which are good sources of

> vitamin D (as is the sun).

>

> Last year, a couple was sentenced to life in prison for letting their

> newborn starve on what they perceived to be a vegan diet. Since then, the

> question has been asked again and again: Are vegan diets safe for kids? The

> trend has nutritionists concerned, that's for sure.

> In our own home, we've toyed with vegetarianism several times, but we've

> never, ever restricted what our kids ate. It takes a lot of research,

> thought, and meal planning to get the correct balance of nutrients on a

> vegan diet, not just a strong desire to avoid animal products.

>

> Kids have different nutritional needs than adults, so to feed them properly

> on a restricted diet, you really have to know your stuff. If I was going to

> go that route (and I'm not), I'd even go so far as to talk to a nutritionist

> first. Sadly, however, cases like the ones in this article, where parents

> let their enthusiasm for their beliefs get ahead of good nutrition, keep

> popping up.

>

> To read more about how to feed kids a healthy, well-balanced vegetarian

> diet, visit Kids Health.

>

> .

>

>

>

 

 

 

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