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Fish is flesh. & nbsp; There are people who call themselves pescatarians; they eat

fish, but not mammals or birds.

 

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Is fish meat? My five year old asked me today and I had a hard time explaining.

 

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Hi Lebasi,

Well, we refer to any animal carcass used for food as meat - or we call

it by the animal's name. For example, if our son asks what kind of meat

that is - we don't say beef or bacon or seafood, we say cow or pig or

fishie. And I think I've heard people refer to dead fish being cut for

cooking in ways like " cut the fish meat off the bone " - so technically,

the flesh is probably considered the meat of the fish. But you know,

the other day, our son won some candy in a pinball machine kind of thing

and it had gelatin and I told him it had meat in it, and he was fine

with just trying again to win a lollipop and the " meat " candy

disappeared. So, we really use " meat " as an umbrella term for anything

non-vegetarian.

Good luck! I find the kid questions are just the toughest - on all

topics, not just vegetarianism!! :-)

Lorraine

 

 

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Wednesday, June 11, 2008 3:55 PM

 

Re: pardon my ignorant question

 

Is fish meat? My five year old asked me today and I had a hard time

explaining.

 

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We say for gelatin that " no it doesn't have meat in it but we don't eat bones

either. "

Renee

 

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Thursday, June 12, 2008, 6:32 PM

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Hi Lebasi,

 

Well, we refer to any animal carcass used for food as meat - or we call

 

it by the animal's name. For example, if our son asks what kind of meat

 

that is - we don't say beef or bacon or seafood, we say cow or pig or

 

fishie. And I think I've heard people refer to dead fish being cut for

 

cooking in ways like " cut the fish meat off the bone " - so technically,

 

the flesh is probably considered the meat of the fish. But you know,

 

the other day, our son won some candy in a pinball machine kind of thing

 

and it had gelatin and I told him it had meat in it, and he was fine

 

with just trying again to win a lollipop and the " meat " candy

 

disappeared. So, we really use " meat " as an umbrella term for anything

 

non-vegetarian.

 

Good luck! I find the kid questions are just the toughest - on all

 

topics, not just vegetarianism! ! :-)

 

Lorraine

 

 

 

 

 

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Wednesday, June 11, 2008 3:55 PM

 

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Re: pardon my ignorant question

 

 

 

Is fish meat? My five year old asked me today and I had a hard time

 

explaining.

 

 

 

Thanks

 

 

 

 

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I would think so, as fish are technically animals that live and feel pain. & nbsp;

Some people think that they aren't (like people practicing Lent), but as a

vegetarian, I would say that they are.

 

 

 

 

 

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You are learning, and aren't we all learning every day? so there are no ignorant

questions. As some others have said, we make it very simple that anything in

the animal

kingdom is meat (bugs, fish, mollusks, cows, chickens, humans, etc.) and we do

not eat

it. I have not had to explain this to my son yet - he is 15 mos old, but I have

had to

explain this to family members who try to find things for us to eat. My aunt

thought it

was okay to use sausage or ham, or beef broth to flavor things since we don't

have to eat

the meat - we can pick the vegetables out of the stew and not eat that part. My

brother

thought that shellfish like scallops or mussels would be okay because they don't

have a

face and are " just tissue. "

 

The route we have gone instead of saying what we won't eat is saying what we

will eat

which is any vegetable or fruit, any seed or nut, and any grain. People

understand these

categories and no one tries to say that a scallop is a vegetable. We also

acknowledge

that other people choose to eat some of these things and that a label is not as

important

as the effort made to eat a diet that is so much better for the body, the

planet, and the

animals. Someone who chooses not to eat beef anymore but still keeps some fish

in

their diet is making a impact.

 

With people who suggest we pick things out of animal based dishes, I have gone

to an

extreme with but it works. I have asked them to replace the animal product with

cigarette ashes in the sentence. If you would ask me to just pick the green

beans out of

the cigarette ashes and think that is reasonable, then you can ask me the same

about the

animal ingredient (including dairy or eggs for us since we are vegan). Like I

said it is

extreme, but since then my aunt has understood and does not ask us to pick

things out

of a meal anymore. Granted, I also make sure I always bring a dish that

everyone can

eat, but I am no longer having to explain why beef broth is still animal based.

 

Not sure if that helps, but hope it gives you another perspective.

 

Susan

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> On

> Behalf Of Lebasi

> Wednesday, June 11, 2008 3:55 PM

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> Re: pardon my ignorant question

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> Is fish meat? My five year old asked me today and I had a hard time

> explaining.

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> Thanks

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It does. In fact I want to thank everyone for posting and helping me understand.

 

Susan <virgo.vegan

 

Sunday, June 15, 2008 9:42:29 AM

Re: pardon my ignorant question

 

 

You are learning, and aren't we all learning every day? so there are no ignorant

questions. As some others have said, we make it very simple that anything in the

animal

kingdom is meat (bugs, fish, mollusks, cows, chickens, humans, etc.) and we do

not eat

it. I have not had to explain this to my son yet - he is 15 mos old, but I have

had to

explain this to family members who try to find things for us to eat. My aunt

thought it

was okay to use sausage or ham, or beef broth to flavor things since we don't

have to eat

the meat - we can pick the vegetables out of the stew and not eat that part. My

brother

thought that shellfish like scallops or mussels would be okay because they don't

have a

face and are " just tissue. "

 

The route we have gone instead of saying what we won't eat is saying what we

will eat

which is any vegetable or fruit, any seed or nut, and any grain. People

understand these

categories and no one tries to say that a scallop is a vegetable. We also

acknowledge

that other people choose to eat some of these things and that a label is not as

important

as the effort made to eat a diet that is so much better for the body, the

planet, and the

animals. Someone who chooses not to eat beef anymore but still keeps some fish

in

their diet is making a impact.

 

With people who suggest we pick things out of animal based dishes, I have gone

to an

extreme with but it works. I have asked them to replace the animal product with

cigarette ashes in the sentence. If you would ask me to just pick the green

beans out of

the cigarette ashes and think that is reasonable, then you can ask me the same

about the

animal ingredient (including dairy or eggs for us since we are vegan). Like I

said it is

extreme, but since then my aunt has understood and does not ask us to pick

things out

of a meal anymore. Granted, I also make sure I always bring a dish that everyone

can

eat, but I am no longer having to explain why beef broth is still animal based.

 

Not sure if that helps, but hope it gives you another perspective.

 

Susan

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> @gro ups.com [@gro ups.com] On

> Behalf Of Lebasi

> Wednesday, June 11, 2008 3:55 PM

> @gro ups.com

> Re: pardon my ignorant question

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> Is fish meat? My five year old asked me today and I had a hard time

> explaining.

>

> Thanks

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What we tell our family and friends when they're cooking for us and

want specifics is that if it runs or hides when we go after it, then

we don't eat it! That seems to clear up some of the confusion. :-)

 

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That is awesome! I'm so going to use it. :-)

 

Dee

 

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Tuesday, June 17, 2008 5:08 AM

Re: pardon my ignorant question

 

 

What we tell our family and friends when they're cooking for us and

want specifics is that if it runs or hides when we go after it, then

we don't eat it! That seems to clear up some of the confusion. :-)

 

..k

 

 

 

 

 

 

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