Guest guest Posted June 13, 2008 Report Share Posted June 13, 2008 I never worry about " ignorant " questions. I think it is always good to ask if your unsure of something. It is also very challenging to answer questions posed by a child. In my opinion, fish is meat. Any flesh that comes from an animal is meat. You can tell him that things people eat come in a few catagories, meat, dairy, fruit, veggies, grains. Being vegan we only eat from the fruit, veggie and grain catagories. Anything that is not one of them is not something we eat. My mother-in- law once said to me that fish is not meat. I replied that it isn't fruit, it isn't a vegetable so what else could it be. My 3 year old just calls it yucky and knows that only Daddy eats yucky. She got that from her older sisters. I simply explain to her that we don't eat anything that comes from animals. We love animals so we don't eat them. That's all she needs to hear. Good luck with your explanation. Carol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 13, 2008 Report Share Posted June 13, 2008 I tried that but my son asked it fish was categorized as animal. That's when I got confused. Fish is usually put in its own category. I mean a bug isn't an animal. We don't kill those either but technically and legally its not an animal. He doesn't want to eat it because it was alive but as for as educating him I am not sure it is a meat. Sorry I do not mean to be so annul but we are all about the facts and the science of things hear. I just had to explain the difference between poly, mono and trans fat to him. He wanted to know what bad fat and good fat meant. cpsobczak <cpsobczak Friday, June 13, 2008 9:16:26 AM fish I never worry about " ignorant " questions. I think it is always good to ask if your unsure of something. It is also very challenging to answer questions posed by a child. In my opinion, fish is meat. Any flesh that comes from an animal is meat. You can tell him that things people eat come in a few catagories, meat, dairy, fruit, veggies, grains. Being vegan we only eat from the fruit, veggie and grain catagories. Anything that is not one of them is not something we eat. My mother-in- law once said to me that fish is not meat. I replied that it isn't fruit, it isn't a vegetable so what else could it be. My 3 year old just calls it yucky and knows that only Daddy eats yucky. She got that from her older sisters. I simply explain to her that we don't eat anything that comes from animals. We love animals so we don't eat them. That's all she needs to hear. Good luck with your explanation. Carol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 14, 2008 Report Share Posted June 14, 2008 As a food source, fish is put in a different category. As part of the Linnaean biological classification, there are only 3 Kingdoms: Animal, Vegetable and Mineral. After that is when you get the ranks: Phyllum, Class, Order, Family, Genus, Species, which I think is where the confusion comes in because that's where the larger breakdown comes in and that's where it kind of gets tricky (for example Insects and bugs - bugs are certain types of insects, but generically 'bug' is used for all manner of insects, not just the true bugs) I know there's a few other systems of biological taxonomy, but this is how I learned it, and it makes the most sense to me. This way, you see, we don't eat animals, which covers them all. I only mention the above, because you said you were into science and such, and this is how we discuss things with our son (to some extent, he's going to be 5 at the end of this coming week!) and it makes it a bit easier for him to understand (at least just using the 3 Kingdoms). He's told us that he was made of meat, because he was an animal. When he was 2 or 3 I think he told my mom that we were mammals and she just couldn't believe he knew these things. That's kind of how we do it. Maybe that will help you, too in these situations. Kids can pose some tricky questions, that's for sure! Good luck. missie On Fri, Jun 13, 2008 at 5:28 PM, Lebasi <lebasi.klotko wrote: > I tried that but my son asked it fish was categorized as animal. That's when > I got confused. Fish is usually put in its own category. I mean a bug isn't > an animal. We don't kill those either but technically and legally its not an > animal. > > He doesn't want to eat it because it was alive but as for as educating him I > am not sure it is a meat. > > Sorry I do not mean to be so annul but we are all about the facts and the > science of things hear. > > I just had to explain the difference between poly, mono and trans fat to > him. He wanted to know what bad fat and good fat meant. > > > > > > cpsobczak <cpsobczak > > Friday, June 13, 2008 9:16:26 AM > fish > > I never worry about " ignorant " questions. I think it is always good to > ask if your unsure of something. It is also very challenging to answer > questions posed by a child. In my opinion, fish is meat. Any flesh > that comes from an animal is meat. You can tell him that things people > eat come in a few catagories, meat, dairy, fruit, veggies, grains. > Being vegan we only eat from the fruit, veggie and grain catagories. > Anything that is not one of them is not something we eat. My mother-in- > law once said to me that fish is not meat. I replied that it isn't > fruit, it isn't a vegetable so what else could it be. My 3 year old > just calls it yucky and knows that only Daddy eats yucky. She got that > from her older sisters. I simply explain to her that we don't eat > anything that comes from animals. We love animals so we don't eat > them. That's all she needs to hear. > Good luck with your explanation. > Carol > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 14, 2008 Report Share Posted June 14, 2008 i find this a great resource for all of my child's difficult questions http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Meat :-) it's something to point to anyway Dee - Lebasi Friday, June 13, 2008 3:28 PM Re: fish I tried that but my son asked it fish was categorized as animal. That's when I got confused. Fish is usually put in its own category. I mean a bug isn't an animal. We don't kill those either but technically and legally its not an animal. He doesn't want to eat it because it was alive but as for as educating him I am not sure it is a meat. Sorry I do not mean to be so annul but we are all about the facts and the science of things hear. I just had to explain the difference between poly, mono and trans fat to him. He wanted to know what bad fat and good fat meant. cpsobczak <cpsobczak Friday, June 13, 2008 9:16:26 AM fish I never worry about " ignorant " questions. I think it is always good to ask if your unsure of something. It is also very challenging to answer questions posed by a child. In my opinion, fish is meat. Any flesh that comes from an animal is meat. You can tell him that things people eat come in a few catagories, meat, dairy, fruit, veggies, grains. Being vegan we only eat from the fruit, veggie and grain catagories. Anything that is not one of them is not something we eat. My mother-in- law once said to me that fish is not meat. I replied that it isn't fruit, it isn't a vegetable so what else could it be. My 3 year old just calls it yucky and knows that only Daddy eats yucky. She got that from her older sisters. I simply explain to her that we don't eat anything that comes from animals. We love animals so we don't eat them. That's all she needs to hear. Good luck with your explanation. Carol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 14, 2008 Report Share Posted June 14, 2008 Insects, fish, arachnids, mammals, reptiles, humans, etc... all fall under the same large umbrella of animal. God's peace, Gayle - Lebasi Friday, June 13, 2008 6:28 PM Re: fish I tried that but my son asked it fish was categorized as animal. That's when I got confused. Fish is usually put in its own category. I mean a bug isn't an animal. We don't kill those either but technically and legally its not an animal. He doesn't want to eat it because it was alive but as for as educating him I am not sure it is a meat. Sorry I do not mean to be so annul but we are all about the facts and the science of things hear. I just had to explain the difference between poly, mono and trans fat to him. He wanted to know what bad fat and good fat meant. cpsobczak <cpsobczak Friday, June 13, 2008 9:16:26 AM fish I never worry about " ignorant " questions. I think it is always good to ask if your unsure of something. It is also very challenging to answer questions posed by a child. In my opinion, fish is meat. Any flesh that comes from an animal is meat. You can tell him that things people eat come in a few catagories, meat, dairy, fruit, veggies, grains. Being vegan we only eat from the fruit, veggie and grain catagories. Anything that is not one of them is not something we eat. My mother-in- law once said to me that fish is not meat. I replied that it isn't fruit, it isn't a vegetable so what else could it be. My 3 year old just calls it yucky and knows that only Daddy eats yucky. She got that from her older sisters. I simply explain to her that we don't eat anything that comes from animals. We love animals so we don't eat them. That's all she needs to hear. Good luck with your explanation. Carol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 15, 2008 Report Share Posted June 15, 2008 Actually, both fish and bugs are animals. If you check the actual classification of living things, fish, bugs, cows, people, etc all fall into the Animal Kingdom. They are in different phyla, classes, genus, orders etc, but all in the same kingdom. Mammals are in the class called Mammalia, but fish and bugs are technically animals. If you are talking about animal cruelty laws, that's a different thing entirely, but it's the animal cruelty laws that are based on incorrect science. _____ On Behalf Of Lebasi Friday, June 13, 2008 6:29 PM Re: fish I tried that but my son asked it fish was categorized as animal. That's when I got confused. Fish is usually put in its own category. I mean a bug isn't an animal. We don't kill those either but technically and legally its not an animal. He doesn't want to eat it because it was alive but as for as educating him I am not sure it is a meat. Sorry I do not mean to be so annul but we are all about the facts and the science of things hear. I just had to explain the difference between poly, mono and trans fat to him. He wanted to know what bad fat and good fat meant. cpsobczak <cpsobczak (AT) (DOT) <cpsobczak%40> com> @gro <%40> ups.com Friday, June 13, 2008 9:16:26 AM fish I never worry about " ignorant " questions. I think it is always good to ask if your unsure of something. It is also very challenging to answer questions posed by a child. In my opinion, fish is meat. Any flesh that comes from an animal is meat. You can tell him that things people eat come in a few catagories, meat, dairy, fruit, veggies, grains. Being vegan we only eat from the fruit, veggie and grain catagories. Anything that is not one of them is not something we eat. My mother-in- law once said to me that fish is not meat. I replied that it isn't fruit, it isn't a vegetable so what else could it be. My 3 year old just calls it yucky and knows that only Daddy eats yucky. She got that from her older sisters. I simply explain to her that we don't eat anything that comes from animals. We love animals so we don't eat them. That's all she needs to hear. Good luck with your explanation. Carol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 15, 2008 Report Share Posted June 15, 2008 Definition of " animal " from encarta: 1. living organism with independent movement: a living organism that is distinguished from plants by independent movement and responsive sense organs So bugs, fish etc are all animals. Even humans are animals by definition. My sense is that folks who don't want to think of fish as animals are pescetarians that want to call themselves vegetarian. :-) Mark (Tanya's husband :-)) : lebasi.klotko: Fri, 13 Jun 2008 15:28:39 -0700Re: fish I tried that but my son asked it fish was categorized as animal. That's when I got confused. Fish is usually put in its own category. I mean a bug isn't an animal. We don't kill those either but technically and legally its not an animal. He doesn't want to eat it because it was alive but as for as educating him I am not sure it is a meat. Sorry I do not mean to be so annul but we are all about the facts and the science of things hear.I just had to explain the difference between poly, mono and trans fat to him. He wanted to know what bad fat and good fat meant. cpsobczak <cpsobczak: Friday, June 13, 2008 9:16:26 AM fishI never worry about " ignorant " questions. I think it is always good to ask if your unsure of something. It is also very challenging to answer questions posed by a child. In my opinion, fish is meat. Any flesh that comes from an animal is meat. You can tell him that things people eat come in a few catagories, meat, dairy, fruit, veggies, grains. Being vegan we only eat from the fruit, veggie and grain catagories. Anything that is not one of them is not something we eat. My mother-in-law once said to me that fish is not meat. I replied that it isn't fruit, it isn't a vegetable so what else could it be. My 3 year old just calls it yucky and knows that only Daddy eats yucky. She got that from her older sisters. I simply explain to her that we don't eat anything that comes from animals. We love animals so we don't eat them. That's all she needs to hear.Good luck with your explanation.Carol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 15, 2008 Report Share Posted June 15, 2008 I was researching this and couldnt understand it. Thanks. The definitions were so vague. leena <leena Saturday, June 14, 2008 7:55:50 PM RE: fish Actually, both fish and bugs are animals. If you check the actual classification of living things, fish, bugs, cows, people, etc all fall into the Animal Kingdom. They are in different phyla, classes, genus, orders etc, but all in the same kingdom. Mammals are in the class called Mammalia, but fish and bugs are technically animals. If you are talking about animal cruelty laws, that's a different thing entirely, but it's the animal cruelty laws that are based on incorrect science. _____ @gro ups.com [@gro ups.com] On Behalf Of Lebasi Friday, June 13, 2008 6:29 PM @gro ups.com Re: fish I tried that but my son asked it fish was categorized as animal. That's when I got confused. Fish is usually put in its own category. I mean a bug isn't an animal. We don't kill those either but technically and legally its not an animal. He doesn't want to eat it because it was alive but as for as educating him I am not sure it is a meat. Sorry I do not mean to be so annul but we are all about the facts and the science of things hear. I just had to explain the difference between poly, mono and trans fat to him. He wanted to know what bad fat and good fat meant. cpsobczak <cpsobczak (AT) (DOT) <cpsobczak% 40> com> @gro <% 40. com> ups.com Friday, June 13, 2008 9:16:26 AM fish I never worry about " ignorant " questions. I think it is always good to ask if your unsure of something. It is also very challenging to answer questions posed by a child. In my opinion, fish is meat. Any flesh that comes from an animal is meat. You can tell him that things people eat come in a few catagories, meat, dairy, fruit, veggies, grains. Being vegan we only eat from the fruit, veggie and grain catagories. Anything that is not one of them is not something we eat. My mother-in- law once said to me that fish is not meat. I replied that it isn't fruit, it isn't a vegetable so what else could it be. My 3 year old just calls it yucky and knows that only Daddy eats yucky. She got that from her older sisters. I simply explain to her that we don't eat anything that comes from animals. We love animals so we don't eat them. That's all she needs to hear. Good luck with your explanation. Carol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 15, 2008 Report Share Posted June 15, 2008 This was perfect. Thanks Missie <mszzzi Saturday, June 14, 2008 4:12:54 PM Re: fish As a food source, fish is put in a different category. As part of the Linnaean biological classification, there are only 3 Kingdoms: Animal, Vegetable and Mineral. After that is when you get the ranks: Phyllum, Class, Order, Family, Genus, Species, which I think is where the confusion comes in because that's where the larger breakdown comes in and that's where it kind of gets tricky (for example Insects and bugs - bugs are certain types of insects, but generically 'bug' is used for all manner of insects, not just the true bugs) I know there's a few other systems of biological taxonomy, but this is how I learned it, and it makes the most sense to me. This way, you see, we don't eat animals, which covers them all. I only mention the above, because you said you were into science and such, and this is how we discuss things with our son (to some extent, he's going to be 5 at the end of this coming week!) and it makes it a bit easier for him to understand (at least just using the 3 Kingdoms). He's told us that he was made of meat, because he was an animal. When he was 2 or 3 I think he told my mom that we were mammals and she just couldn't believe he knew these things. That's kind of how we do it. Maybe that will help you, too in these situations. Kids can pose some tricky questions, that's for sure! Good luck. missie On Fri, Jun 13, 2008 at 5:28 PM, Lebasi <lebasi.klotko@ > wrote: > I tried that but my son asked it fish was categorized as animal. That's when > I got confused. Fish is usually put in its own category. I mean a bug isn't > an animal. We don't kill those either but technically and legally its not an > animal. > > He doesn't want to eat it because it was alive but as for as educating him I > am not sure it is a meat. > > Sorry I do not mean to be so annul but we are all about the facts and the > science of things hear. > > I just had to explain the difference between poly, mono and trans fat to > him. He wanted to know what bad fat and good fat meant. > > > > > > cpsobczak <cpsobczak > > @gro ups.com > Friday, June 13, 2008 9:16:26 AM > fish > > I never worry about " ignorant " questions. I think it is always good to > ask if your unsure of something. It is also very challenging to answer > questions posed by a child. In my opinion, fish is meat. Any flesh > that comes from an animal is meat. You can tell him that things people > eat come in a few catagories, meat, dairy, fruit, veggies, grains. > Being vegan we only eat from the fruit, veggie and grain catagories. > Anything that is not one of them is not something we eat. My mother-in- > law once said to me that fish is not meat. I replied that it isn't > fruit, it isn't a vegetable so what else could it be. My 3 year old > just calls it yucky and knows that only Daddy eats yucky. She got that > from her older sisters. I simply explain to her that we don't eat > anything that comes from animals. We love animals so we don't eat > them. That's all she needs to hear. > Good luck with your explanation. > Carol > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 15, 2008 Report Share Posted June 15, 2008 He calls himself a vegetarian but I do not think he quite gets what that means yet. He is still learning. Tanya Aggar <tanyaaggar ; maggar Saturday, June 14, 2008 11:38:16 PM RE: fish Definition of " animal " from encarta: 1. living organism with independent movement: a living organism that is distinguished from plants by independent movement and responsive sense organs So bugs, fish etc are all animals. Even humans are animals by definition. My sense is that folks who don't want to think of fish as animals are pescetarians that want to call themselves vegetarian. :-) Mark (Tanya's husband :-)) : lebasi.klotko: Fri, 13 Jun 2008 15:28:39 -0700Re: fish I tried that but my son asked it fish was categorized as animal. That's when I got confused. Fish is usually put in its own category. I mean a bug isn't an animal. We don't kill those either but technically and legally its not an animal. He doesn't want to eat it because it was alive but as for as educating him I am not sure it is a meat. Sorry I do not mean to be so annul but we are all about the facts and the science of things hear.I just had to explain the difference between poly, mono and trans fat to him. He wanted to know what bad fat and good fat meant. cpsobczak <cpsobczak: Friday, June 13, 2008 9:16:26 AM fishI never worry about " ignorant " questions. I think it is always good to ask if your unsure of something. It is also very challenging to answer questions posed by a child. In my opinion, fish is meat. Any flesh that comes from an animal is meat. You can tell him that things people eat come in a few catagories, meat, dairy, fruit, veggies, grains. Being vegan we only eat from the fruit, veggie and grain catagories. Anything that is not one of them is not something we eat. My mother-in-law once said to me that fish is not meat. I replied that it isn't fruit, it isn't a vegetable so what else could it be. My 3 year old just calls it yucky and knows that only Daddy eats yucky. She got that from her older sisters. I simply explain to her that we don't eat anything that comes from animals. We love animals so we don't eat them. That's all she needs to hear.Good luck with your explanation.Carol[Non-text portions of this message have been removed] _______________ It’s easy to add contacts from Facebook and other social sites through Windows Live™ Messenger. Learn how. https://www.invite2messenger.net/im/?source=TXT_EML_WLH_LearnHow Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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