Guest guest Posted July 12, 2008 Report Share Posted July 12, 2008 Hello everyone, I don't know if I've introduced myself yet. I'm a vegan mom with a vegan 2 1/2 yr old daughter. I do have a few topics to bring up, but I'll start with this one: We started the potty venture at around 22 months. I took my daughters lead, following her signs. I did a bunch of reading about different methods before we started. If we ever have another child I'll start much earlier...but that's neither here nor there. Anyway, she absolutely will not use a public restroom. She would rather wet herself that use a public toilet. I don't know what to do. Though we had a rough spell for a bit in the middle, she's essentially been going regularly at home for about 9 months, though not dry at night or during naps...haven't pursued that at all. Any advice on helping her to feel comfortable using a restroom away from home would be greatly appreciated! We are moving in 2 weeks and I am definitely worried about keeping up with the laundry if she is constantly wetting herself on the trip. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 13, 2008 Report Share Posted July 13, 2008 Maybe carry her own inflatable potty with you, or one of those clip on plastic seats? Then even though the room would be different, the seat would be familiar. Marilyn **************Get the scoop on last night's hottest shows and the live music scene in your area - Check out TourTracker.com! (http://www.tourtracker.com?NCID=aolmus00050000000112) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 13, 2008 Report Share Posted July 13, 2008 My daughter is 3 1/2 and still potty training. Some kids just don't feel comfortable until later. At this point I put her in pull-ups when we are going out for a longer time or away from convenient toilets - like on an airplane. You could tell her she has to wear those until she's willing to use the public toilet. Wouldn't work with my kid, the dang things are comfy and have princesses all over them. She'd rather have them. *sigh* Mine just won't do #2 on any potty. She likes to do it in a pullup or diaper, with her butt up in the air. Don't know how I'll ever get that one sorted out. You know, they do make portable potties, I think even a lot of the training ones can be used that way. My friend has one in the back of her car (of course she does have a minivan so that's easier) for emergencies. :-) Dee - ad00rable_1 Saturday, July 12, 2008 11:15 AM public restroom help Hello everyone, I don't know if I've introduced myself yet. I'm a vegan mom with a vegan 2 1/2 yr old daughter. I do have a few topics to bring up, but I'll start with this one: We started the potty venture at around 22 months. I took my daughters lead, following her signs. I did a bunch of reading about different methods before we started. If we ever have another child I'll start much earlier...but that's neither here nor there. Anyway, she absolutely will not use a public restroom. She would rather wet herself that use a public toilet. I don't know what to do. Though we had a rough spell for a bit in the middle, she's essentially been going regularly at home for about 9 months, though not dry at night or during naps...haven't pursued that at all. Any advice on helping her to feel comfortable using a restroom away from home would be greatly appreciated! We are moving in 2 weeks and I am definitely worried about keeping up with the laundry if she is constantly wetting herself on the trip. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 13, 2008 Report Share Posted July 13, 2008 It sounds like your daughter just may not be ready. 2-1/2 is still very young; my daughter was four before she was out of diapers (in a three month period, she gave up diapers, figured out how to tie her shoes, and started reading). Public bathrooms smell awful, and many children are very sensitive to this. If you truly wish to follow her lead, you may need to take a step back. --- On Sat, 7/12/08, ad00rable_1 <nkiffer wrote: ad00rable_1 <nkiffer public restroom help Saturday, July 12, 2008, 1:15 PM Hello everyone, I don't know if I've introduced myself yet. I'm a vegan mom with a vegan 2 1/2 yr old daughter. I do have a few topics to bring up, but I'll start with this one: We started the potty venture at around 22 months. I took my daughters lead, following her signs. I did a bunch of reading about different methods before we started. If we ever have another child I'll start much earlier...but that's neither here nor there. Anyway, she absolutely will not use a public restroom. She would rather wet herself that use a public toilet. I don't know what to do. Though we had a rough spell for a bit in the middle, she's essentially been going regularly at home for about 9 months, though not dry at night or during naps...haven' t pursued that at all. Any advice on helping her to feel comfortable using a restroom away from home would be greatly appreciated! We are moving in 2 weeks and I am definitely worried about keeping up with the laundry if she is constantly wetting herself on the trip. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 14, 2008 Report Share Posted July 14, 2008 Hello. My son was pretty much day-time dry, and using the potty around this age, until we went on a car trip to help my grandma sort out stuff and sell her house so she could move to be with my mom. He was fine, until he had a negative experience, right out of the gate on this trip! IT was an auto-flush toilet, and was the bane of my existance for the next 2.5 years (we struggled with potty training, total regression at one point and then daytime dryness and only just before turning 5 (maybe 3 months before) we were totally daytime dry and full pottying. So, I guess my point is this - did she have a negative experience with one of these auto flush toilets? My son would not even use HIS potty chair (we had it in the car for him, but he wanted to use the big potty on the trip, not his - and that was his complete undoing). The noise just scared the living daylights out of him. We ended up back in diapers, for nearly a year, as he was just THAT resistant to trying again. At first it was frustrating, but we just put it away, as we knew why it happened, but not how to sort it out. We tried again around 3yrs old, still varied on progress, at 4 we had 6-8months of pottying inconsistantly. The only thing that really worked was that we were mildly suspect of him having encopresis, so we made an appt with his doctor. She knew of our trials and trubilations and she did not think it was encopresiss (even thought he very negative experience for him was somethign combined with a possible earlier remembering of when his dairy allergy (before we got a real handle on it and just went vegan because it was so much easier for us)and his rashes and welts -we weren't sure...but we suspected it. Anyway - she didn't think that was the problem, just that he was very very strong willed, and she told us to have him sit for 30 min's after a meal, unless he pooped on th epotty (this is not advice for younger kids though, as they don't have the attention span for it, our son was able to sit and do mazes and read 'reader' books for kids on his own, or draw - it was drastic, but it was the only thing that worked for him). It is something you have to assess their readiness, if they are in a non-receptive mood/state, it will be hard, and you won't get anywhere. She might have decided she doesn't want to do it (maybe she's not ready to be a 'big girl', if you state it that way, we just focused on the other cool stuff he'd be able to do if he wasn't in pull ups/diapers anymore - sometimes it worked, sometimes it did not and he would just say he didn't want to do that anyway). A child psychologist who put on a potty learning seminar gave us that advice - wait till he was in a receptive/yes mood/state, you can try rewards (we never did food, as it can become bad later in life to associate food as a reward for doign someting and lead to unhealthy eating habits, but for some this works and they can do it short term) We did maybe 3-5 stickers (one for a success on the toilet) on a chart, after 3 (or 5 - it was different for pee or poop) he'd get a trip to a toy store (which worked for a while till he 'learned the system and then used it to get a toy he wanted - at 3yrs old! LOL) So, we had to change things up, as when he was very little and first initiated it, he got very upste getting stickers from anyone if he didn't use the potty before getting one - which sent him into tears - so we couldn't use that one for long - we later went back to charting, using checks and dots and x's which worked much better for some reason. Now, I'm getting side-tracked, but we went through so many different methods, and so much different advice, we only had success when he was told by his doctor to sit for 30 min's, and he could get down if he had a success. This was mostly for poops though, but it worked, and took the resistance away from us (well, we were setting the timer, so it was still 'us' he was resisting). I'd say the new house, and the move, that's a lot of changes, and we also had this at one point (moved at/around when he was ok again, but then had a regression because of it). We put everything away again, didn't mention it (as the CP said to do if we hit so much resistance) and bring it back at a later time (when they were more inclined to try it). If you are moving, that's a huge stressor for your child as well, they pick up on your emotions and if you are stressed, too. With toileting, that is one thing that only they have ultimate control over, so if her world is beign turned upside down, thi s may be the only thing that she knows is a certainty (even if it is gross and more work for you ) and that she has total control over. For a short time, don't sweat it, we did the 'green' disposable diapers (as we were moving) and went back to cloth once settled (I made covers like pull ups). We did eventually go back to disposables, as with moving and settling and so on, we had enough to do without adding extra laundry to the mix (clothing and diapers that were wet/soiled...). My son did announce he no longer wanted to wear them at night, and only wanted undies, so we have a matress protector crib sheetthing (we had a plastic cover on his bed before, but it was too hot and crinkley so he never wanted to sleep in ihis bed, this preotector thing, he's happy to sleep on it, and over the sheet - no extra sheets to wash, just a couple of covers. He still has an accident from time to time, and if he's wet a couple of days in a row, back into the nightime pull ups he goes (we have one pack left, and it's lasted us for a very long time doing this this way. We struggled, we tried so many things. We just had a very head strong and smart little boy who knew what we were doing. LOL. I feel I've been through the trenches on it, and we never wanted to start so early, but we followed his lead and then he kept changing the rules on us. LOL. With a move, I'd say try not to sweat it, as you have enough other stuff to deal with, without the toileting piled on top. Sorry this is all over, trying to do 3 things at once. If you have any specific questions, let me know, I'll see if maybe we did something like it, and if we had any success. I was getting very frustrated at one point since one of my son's friends was so quick to take to it, but then he never initiated it, and he was 4 when they started and it didn't take that long (maybe just a few months to get a handle on it, even with night time!). But they are all different and have their won time lines - Hang in there, this too shall pass. Missie On Sat, Jul 12, 2008 at 1:15 PM, ad00rable_1 <nkiffer wrote: > Hello everyone, > > I don't know if I've introduced myself yet. I'm a vegan mom with a vegan 2 > 1/2 yr old > daughter. > > I do have a few topics to bring up, but I'll start with this one: > > We started the potty venture at around 22 months. I took my daughters lead, > following her > signs. I did a bunch of reading about different methods before we started. > If we ever have > another child I'll start much earlier...but that's neither here nor there. > > Anyway, she absolutely will not use a public restroom. She would rather wet > herself that use > a public toilet. I don't know what to do. Though we had a rough spell for a > bit in the middle, > she's essentially been going regularly at home for about 9 months, though > not dry at night or > during naps...haven't pursued that at all. Any advice on helping her to feel > comfortable using > a restroom away from home would be greatly appreciated! We are moving in 2 > weeks and I > am definitely worried about keeping up with the laundry if she is constantly > wetting herself > on the trip. > > -- http://mszzzi.zoomshare.com http://www.flickr.com/photos/mszzzi/ ~~~~~(m-.-)m Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 18, 2008 Report Share Posted July 18, 2008 Wow this all is coming at a time when i am just starting to think about toilet training my 18 month old. To be honest i don't know where to start. He has started to let me know when e has done a poo but thats about all i am seeing from him. We don't drive so im trying to imagine carrying a blow up potty in my backpack! Good luck with it, everyone. My only suggestion about the pull ups and the kids liking them, is get them into cloth...they prob won't like being wet in those for very long! Ange , Missie <mszzzi wrote: > > Hello. > My son was pretty much day-time dry, and using the potty around this > age, until we went on a car trip to help my grandma sort out stuff and > sell her house so she could move to be with my mom. He was fine, until > he had a negative experience, right out of the gate on this trip! IT > was an auto-flush toilet, and was the bane of my existance for the > next 2.5 years (we struggled with potty training, total regression at > one point and then daytime dryness and only just before turning 5 > (maybe 3 months before) we were totally daytime dry and full pottying. > > So, I guess my point is this - did she have a negative experience with > one of these auto flush toilets? My son would not even use HIS potty > chair (we had it in the car for him, but he wanted to use the big > potty on the trip, not his - and that was his complete undoing). The > noise just scared the living daylights out of him. We ended up back in > diapers, for nearly a year, as he was just THAT resistant to trying > again. At first it was frustrating, but we just put it away, as we > knew why it happened, but not how to sort it out. We tried again > around 3yrs old, still varied on progress, at 4 we had 6-8months of > pottying inconsistantly. The only thing that really worked was that we > were mildly suspect of him having encopresis, so we made an appt with > his doctor. She knew of our trials and trubilations and she did not > think it was encopresiss (even thought he very negative experience for > him was somethign combined with a possible earlier remembering of when > his dairy allergy (before we got a real handle on it and just went > vegan because it was so much easier for us)and his rashes and welts > -we weren't sure...but we suspected it. Anyway - she didn't think that > was the problem, just that he was very very strong willed, and she > told us to have him sit for 30 min's after a meal, unless he pooped on > th epotty (this is not advice for younger kids though, as they don't > have the attention span for it, our son was able to sit and do mazes > and read 'reader' books for kids on his own, or draw - it was drastic, > but it was the only thing that worked for him). > It is something you have to assess their readiness, if they are in a > non-receptive mood/state, it will be hard, and you won't get anywhere. > She might have decided she doesn't want to do it (maybe she's not > ready to be a 'big girl', if you state it that way, we just focused on > the other cool stuff he'd be able to do if he wasn't in pull > ups/diapers anymore - sometimes it worked, sometimes it did not and he > would just say he didn't want to do that anyway). > > A child psychologist who put on a potty learning seminar gave us that > advice - wait till he was in a receptive/yes mood/state, you can try > rewards (we never did food, as it can become bad later in life to > associate food as a reward for doign someting and lead to unhealthy > eating habits, but for some this works and they can do it short term) > We did maybe 3-5 stickers (one for a success on the toilet) on a > chart, after 3 (or 5 - it was different for pee or poop) he'd get a > trip to a toy store (which worked for a while till he 'learned the > system and then used it to get a toy he wanted - at 3yrs old! LOL) > So, we had to change things up, as when he was very little and first > initiated it, he got very upste getting stickers from anyone if he > didn't use the potty before getting one - which sent him into tears - > so we couldn't use that one for long - we later went back to charting, > using checks and dots and x's which worked much better for some > reason. > Now, I'm getting side-tracked, but we went through so many different > methods, and so much different advice, we only had success when he was > told by his doctor to sit for 30 min's, and he could get down if he > had a success. This was mostly for poops though, but it worked, and > took the resistance away from us (well, we were setting the timer, so > it was still 'us' he was resisting). > I'd say the new house, and the move, that's a lot of changes, and we > also had this at one point (moved at/around when he was ok again, but > then had a regression because of it). We put everything away again, > didn't mention it (as the CP said to do if we hit so much resistance) > and bring it back at a later time (when they were more inclined to try > it). If you are moving, that's a huge stressor for your child as > well, they pick up on your emotions and if you are stressed, too. With > toileting, that is one thing that only they have ultimate control > over, so if her world is beign turned upside down, thi s may be the > only thing that she knows is a certainty (even if it is gross and more > work for you ) and that she has total control over. > For a short time, don't sweat it, we did the 'green' disposable > diapers (as we were moving) and went back to cloth once settled (I > made covers like pull ups). We did eventually go back to disposables, > as with moving and settling and so on, we had enough to do without > adding extra laundry to the mix (clothing and diapers that were > wet/soiled...). > > My son did announce he no longer wanted to wear them at night, and > only wanted undies, so we have a matress protector crib sheetthing (we > had a plastic cover on his bed before, but it was too hot and crinkley > so he never wanted to sleep in ihis bed, this preotector thing, he's > happy to sleep on it, and over the sheet - no extra sheets to wash, > just a couple of covers. He still has an accident from time to time, > and if he's wet a couple of days in a row, back into the nightime pull > ups he goes (we have one pack left, and it's lasted us for a very long > time doing this this way. > > We struggled, we tried so many things. We just had a very head strong > and smart little boy who knew what we were doing. LOL. I feel I've > been through the trenches on it, and we never wanted to start so > early, but we followed his lead and then he kept changing the rules on > us. LOL. With a move, I'd say try not to sweat it, as you have > enough other stuff to deal with, without the toileting piled on top. > > Sorry this is all over, trying to do 3 things at once. If you have any > specific questions, let me know, I'll see if maybe we did something > like it, and if we had any success. I was getting very frustrated at > one point since one of my son's friends was so quick to take to it, > but then he never initiated it, and he was 4 when they started and it > didn't take that long (maybe just a few months to get a handle on it, > even with night time!). But they are all different and have their won > time lines - Hang in there, this too shall pass. > > Missie > > On Sat, Jul 12, 2008 at 1:15 PM, ad00rable_1 <nkiffer wrote: > > Hello everyone, > > > > I don't know if I've introduced myself yet. I'm a vegan mom with a vegan 2 > > 1/2 yr old > > daughter. > > > > I do have a few topics to bring up, but I'll start with this one: > > > > We started the potty venture at around 22 months. I took my daughters lead, > > following her > > signs. I did a bunch of reading about different methods before we started. > > If we ever have > > another child I'll start much earlier...but that's neither here nor there. > > > > Anyway, she absolutely will not use a public restroom. She would rather wet > > herself that use > > a public toilet. I don't know what to do. Though we had a rough spell for a > > bit in the middle, > > she's essentially been going regularly at home for about 9 months, though > > not dry at night or > > during naps...haven't pursued that at all. Any advice on helping her to feel > > comfortable using > > a restroom away from home would be greatly appreciated! We are moving in 2 > > weeks and I > > am definitely worried about keeping up with the laundry if she is constantly > > wetting herself > > on the trip. > > > > > > > > -- > > http://mszzzi.zoomshare.com > http://www.flickr.com/photos/mszzzi/ > > ~~~~~(m-.-)m > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 24, 2008 Report Share Posted July 24, 2008 Hey here's some ideas I might try: When travelling have her just in her underwear(not pants) to minimize the laundry and put a waterproof pad in between her and the carseat. I would remind her if she needs to go just let Mommy know so you can stay comfy and dry because she'll get your potty ready for you Ask her what's the reason she doesn't want to go to the bathroom that's not at home. If it's too different/yucky whatever explain that Mommy can hold you so you feel okay and she could stand/squat on the toilet seat. Mostly I would offer her go on the potty in the car with it sitting on the seat then clean it in the bathroom. From our experience with our 2 1/2 year old I can't rave enough about the book NATURAL INFANT HYGIENE- by Ingrid Bauer then children and parents don't have to struggle with kids having to relearn their elimination instincts. Hope that helps, Nicolette Schumacher Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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