Guest guest Posted July 18, 2008 Report Share Posted July 18, 2008 The Vegetarian Resource Group ran some articles in Vegetarian Journal recently that talk about all this. For example, concerning eggs see: http://www.vrg.org/journal/vj2007issue2/vj2007issue2eggs.pdf Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 18, 2008 Report Share Posted July 18, 2008 *SIGH* I don't know if I should say thank you or not, Debra! I am SO unhappy about the treatment of those poor chickens! Yet eggs (and occasionally chicken--although we don't all eat it) are one of the few things we seem unable to let go of here! When *I* say " humane " , I mean just that. Why aren't companies TRULY treating their animals humanely? Of course, male chicks would still not be treated alright, and that's a whole other part of this. I really wish we were all born vegan, so we wouldn't have to make this difficult transition later in life. UGH. Marilyn **************Get fantasy football with free live scoring. Sign up for FanHouse Fantasy Football today. (http://www.fanhouse.com/fantasyaffair?ncid=aolspr00050000000020) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 18, 2008 Report Share Posted July 18, 2008 Let's get real. Our society can't treat people humanely. --- On Fri, 7/18/08, sahmomof8 <sahmomof8 wrote: sahmomof8 <sahmomof8 Re: Humane myths Friday, July 18, 2008, 12:16 PM *SIGH* I don't know if I should say thank you or not, Debra! I am SO unhappy about the treatment of those poor chickens! Yet eggs (and occasionally chicken--although we don't all eat it) are one of the few things we seem unable to let go of here! When *I* say " humane " , I mean just that. Why aren't companies TRULY treating their animals humanely? Of course, male chicks would still not be treated alright, and that's a whole other part of this. I really wish we were all born vegan, so we wouldn't have to make this difficult transition later in life. UGH. Marilyn ************ **Get fantasy football with free live scoring. Sign up for FanHouse Fantasy Football today. (http://www.fanhouse .com/fantasyaffa ir?ncid=aolspr00 050000000020) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 21, 2008 Report Share Posted July 21, 2008 >> I really wish we were all born vegan, so we wouldn't have to make this difficult transition later in life. It may be encouraging to consider the fact that we ARE all born vegan babies, wanting only to nurse from our mothers, where that is possible. But before long, well meaning parents and an array of self-serving and/or misguided businesses and institutions habituate the consumption of animals. It interests me that some find breaking the meat habit difficult, while others find it relatively easy. We can all think of reasons why this may be, but some sound, statistically significant research would be beneficial in pointing to behaviors, situations, approaches, etc. that are conducive to attaining the goal. Even a simple survey would be helpful, e.g., asking people who became vegan after childhood to indicate whether it was easy or difficult, and then to check boxes for critical success factors such as " supportive spouse " , " disposable income " , " access to packaged vegan products " , etc. Then we could see which factors correlate most strongly with having an easy transition, and people on the journey could set about addressing those factors. Maybe a group with ample resources and contacts like VRG, PETA, etc. will find time to conduct such a survey. - Alan , sahmomof8 wrote: > > *SIGH* I don't know if I should say thank you or not, Debra! I am SO unhappy > about the treatment of those poor chickens! Yet eggs (and occasionally > chicken--although we don't all eat it) are one of the few things we seem unable to > let go of here! When *I* say " humane " , I mean just that. Why aren't > companies TRULY treating their animals humanely? Of course, male chicks would still > not be treated alright, and that's a whole other part of this. I really wish > we were all born vegan, so we wouldn't have to make this difficult transition > later in life. UGH. Marilyn > > > > **************Get fantasy football with free live scoring. Sign up for > FanHouse Fantasy Football today. > (http://www.fanhouse.com/fantasyaffair?ncid=aolspr00050000000020) > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 24, 2008 Report Share Posted July 24, 2008 , sahmomof8 wrote: <Why aren't companies TRULY treating their animals humanely? Marilyn, that's the problem, there really isn't anyway to treat an animal humanely. Donald Watson, founder of the Vegan Society and the individual who coined the word " VEGAN " , had this to say about the free-roaming animals on his uncle George's farm: " the idyllic scene was nothing more than Death Row, where every creature's days were numbered by the point at which it was no longer of service to human beings. " It's interesting how many organizations are trying to change factory farms into " Old McDonald's Farm " but yet that was the exact type of farm that Donald Watson was appalled by. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 25, 2008 Report Share Posted July 25, 2008 Marilyn, that's the problem, there really isn't anyway to treat an animal humanely You know, I knew that. On some level, I totally understood that there was simply NOTHING " humane " about keeping an animal captive and then killing it. It probably comes down to trying to wean off of animal products, after 50 years of consuming them, and trying hard to do BETTER while not yet all the way " there " . It's a process. Marilyn **************Get fantasy football with free live scoring. Sign up for FanHouse Fantasy Football today. (http://www.fanhouse.com/fantasyaffair?ncid=aolspr00050000000020) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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