public restroom help/pullups

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Our family doctor told us to avoid the pullups for that very reason.

 

 

--- On Fri, 7/18/08, angel.nail <angel.nail wrote:

 

angel.nail <angel.nail

Re: public restroom help

 

Friday, July 18, 2008, 5:55 PM

 

 

 

 

 

 

Wow this all is coming at a time when i am just starting to think

about toilet training my 18 month old. To be honest i don't know where

to start. He has started to let me know when e has done a poo but

thats about all i am seeing from him. We don't drive so im trying to

imagine carrying a blow up potty in my backpack!

 

Good luck with it, everyone. My only suggestion about the pull ups and

the kids liking them, is get them into cloth...they prob won't like

being wet in those for very long!

 

Ange

@gro ups.com, Missie <mszzzi wrote:

>

> Hello.

> My son was pretty much day-time dry, and using the potty around this

> age, until we went on a car trip to help my grandma sort out stuff and

> sell her house so she could move to be with my mom. He was fine, until

> he had a negative experience, right out of the gate on this trip! IT

> was an auto-flush toilet, and was the bane of my existance for the

> next 2.5 years (we struggled with potty training, total regression at

> one point and then daytime dryness and only just before turning 5

> (maybe 3 months before) we were totally daytime dry and full pottying.

>

> So, I guess my point is this - did she have a negative experience with

> one of these auto flush toilets? My son would not even use HIS potty

> chair (we had it in the car for him, but he wanted to use the big

> potty on the trip, not his - and that was his complete undoing). The

> noise just scared the living daylights out of him. We ended up back in

> diapers, for nearly a year, as he was just THAT resistant to trying

> again. At first it was frustrating, but we just put it away, as we

> knew why it happened, but not how to sort it out. We tried again

> around 3yrs old, still varied on progress, at 4 we had 6-8months of

> pottying inconsistantly. The only thing that really worked was that we

> were mildly suspect of him having encopresis, so we made an appt with

> his doctor. She knew of our trials and trubilations and she did not

> think it was encopresiss (even thought he very negative experience for

> him was somethign combined with a possible earlier remembering of when

> his dairy allergy (before we got a real handle on it and just went

> vegan because it was so much easier for us)and his rashes and welts

> -we weren't sure...but we suspected it. Anyway - she didn't think that

> was the problem, just that he was very very strong willed, and she

> told us to have him sit for 30 min's after a meal, unless he pooped on

> th epotty (this is not advice for younger kids though, as they don't

> have the attention span for it, our son was able to sit and do mazes

> and read 'reader' books for kids on his own, or draw - it was drastic,

> but it was the only thing that worked for him).

> It is something you have to assess their readiness, if they are in a

> non-receptive mood/state, it will be hard, and you won't get anywhere.

> She might have decided she doesn't want to do it (maybe she's not

> ready to be a 'big girl', if you state it that way, we just focused on

> the other cool stuff he'd be able to do if he wasn't in pull

> ups/diapers anymore - sometimes it worked, sometimes it did not and he

> would just say he didn't want to do that anyway).

>

> A child psychologist who put on a potty learning seminar gave us that

> advice - wait till he was in a receptive/yes mood/state, you can try

> rewards (we never did food, as it can become bad later in life to

> associate food as a reward for doign someting and lead to unhealthy

> eating habits, but for some this works and they can do it short term)

> We did maybe 3-5 stickers (one for a success on the toilet) on a

> chart, after 3 (or 5 - it was different for pee or poop) he'd get a

> trip to a toy store (which worked for a while till he 'learned the

> system and then used it to get a toy he wanted - at 3yrs old! LOL)

> So, we had to change things up, as when he was very little and first

> initiated it, he got very upste getting stickers from anyone if he

> didn't use the potty before getting one - which sent him into tears -

> so we couldn't use that one for long - we later went back to charting,

> using checks and dots and x's which worked much better for some

> reason.

> Now, I'm getting side-tracked, but we went through so many different

> methods, and so much different advice, we only had success when he was

> told by his doctor to sit for 30 min's, and he could get down if he

> had a success. This was mostly for poops though, but it worked, and

> took the resistance away from us (well, we were setting the timer, so

> it was still 'us' he was resisting).

> I'd say the new house, and the move, that's a lot of changes, and we

> also had this at one point (moved at/around when he was ok again, but

> then had a regression because of it). We put everything away again,

> didn't mention it (as the CP said to do if we hit so much resistance)

> and bring it back at a later time (when they were more inclined to try

> it). If you are moving, that's a huge stressor for your child as

> well, they pick up on your emotions and if you are stressed, too. With

> toileting, that is one thing that only they have ultimate control

> over, so if her world is beign turned upside down, thi s may be the

> only thing that she knows is a certainty (even if it is gross and more

> work for you ) and that she has total control over.

> For a short time, don't sweat it, we did the 'green' disposable

> diapers (as we were moving) and went back to cloth once settled (I

> made covers like pull ups). We did eventually go back to disposables,

> as with moving and settling and so on, we had enough to do without

> adding extra laundry to the mix (clothing and diapers that were

> wet/soiled.. .).

>

> My son did announce he no longer wanted to wear them at night, and

> only wanted undies, so we have a matress protector crib sheetthing (we

> had a plastic cover on his bed before, but it was too hot and crinkley

> so he never wanted to sleep in ihis bed, this preotector thing, he's

> happy to sleep on it, and over the sheet - no extra sheets to wash,

> just a couple of covers. He still has an accident from time to time,

> and if he's wet a couple of days in a row, back into the nightime pull

> ups he goes (we have one pack left, and it's lasted us for a very long

> time doing this this way.

>

> We struggled, we tried so many things. We just had a very head strong

> and smart little boy who knew what we were doing. LOL. I feel I've

> been through the trenches on it, and we never wanted to start so

> early, but we followed his lead and then he kept changing the rules on

> us. LOL. With a move, I'd say try not to sweat it, as you have

> enough other stuff to deal with, without the toileting piled on top.

>

> Sorry this is all over, trying to do 3 things at once. If you have any

> specific questions, let me know, I'll see if maybe we did something

> like it, and if we had any success. I was getting very frustrated at

> one point since one of my son's friends was so quick to take to it,

> but then he never initiated it, and he was 4 when they started and it

> didn't take that long (maybe just a few months to get a handle on it,

> even with night time!). But they are all different and have their won

> time lines - Hang in there, this too shall pass.

>

> Missie

>

> On Sat, Jul 12, 2008 at 1:15 PM, ad00rable_1 <nkiffer > wrote:

> > Hello everyone,

> >

> > I don't know if I've introduced myself yet. I'm a vegan mom with a

vegan 2

> > 1/2 yr old

> > daughter.

> >

> > I do have a few topics to bring up, but I'll start with this one:

> >

> > We started the potty venture at around 22 months. I took my

daughters lead,

> > following her

> > signs. I did a bunch of reading about different methods before we

started.

> > If we ever have

> > another child I'll start much earlier...but that's neither here

nor there.

> >

> > Anyway, she absolutely will not use a public restroom. She would

rather wet

> > herself that use

> > a public toilet. I don't know what to do. Though we had a rough

spell for a

> > bit in the middle,

> > she's essentially been going regularly at home for about 9 months,

though

> > not dry at night or

> > during naps...haven' t pursued that at all. Any advice on helping

her to feel

> > comfortable using

> > a restroom away from home would be greatly appreciated! We are

moving in 2

> > weeks and I

> > am definitely worried about keeping up with the laundry if she is

constantly

> > wetting herself

> > on the trip.

> >

> >

>

>

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We used cloth from day one, and I sewed pull up type diaper covers

(they were like shorts, and awesome), knitted some pull up type

covers/wraps, too. We had some slip ups around 2.5yrs, but then he was

fine (until the dreaded auto-flush toilet incident) and the road trip

from he** - we had no choice then, because we had a lot of moving and

sorting and so much stuff to go through helping my grandma empty her

house (my grandfather hoarded things - wood that filled their basement

because he might need it, pipe fittings, nails sorted out into

different sizes/colors/etc - it was completely a

dreadful/emotional/stressful mess on top of losing a place that we all

had so much history in (my grandfather and his brothers built the

house brick by brick after their day jobs!). Yeah, we used disposables

for the month we were there (and it still took another 3 to clear out

the place) and then selling it. Ugh.

We used cloth and th ewashable padded undies (and the ones that were

lined)- but those never ever phased our son. I think he'd sit an play

and ignore being wet/smelly/uncomfortable if he could. We still have

to remind him sometimes because he doesn't want to stop playing or

reading or whatever it is he's doing, he just doesn't like to stop to

use it, but he's at least listening to his body now, waiting until the

last minute, but he's been fine since about April, the occasional

accident, but that's usually overnights, or the other day, we suspect

that he had some hidden dairy in something they made at school.

 

I think that in certain situations and in some circumstances

disposables/pullups have their place. I don't think they should be

used every day/night, and we usds them as tools, or have used them

when traveling (I think we'd have had a really awful time if we had to

resort to washing diapers on our cruise!) but, for the most part, we

tried to avoid them. They definitely helped us get through the very

rough spots (we tried pants-less at one point and he just went on the

floor, not even caring - he was younger when he did this).

 

I'm not taking offense, I just wanted to clarify. If we had to do it

all over, I would have just ignored the initial requests, and waited

until our son was 4 (maybe that would have been better - it's when we

originally thought we'd start, but he had different ideas...and so it

dragged out way too long for me). I think it might be over now, as

he's been doing great for so long now.

 

We only ever started things back up when he showed an interest in it

again, we never pushed him, or tried before we thought he was ready.

Seriously. When he was 18mo's and asked, I thought he was too young,

and that's when I asked the CP about it and she said to try, and we

did and SUCCESS and then, our uphill battles began with the fear...and

so on. I never ever wanted to start that early. I never thought we'd

have the struggles we had, since we let our son initiate it, we just

followed his lead, and we still had so many issues. Talking with

his doctor, they weren't part of the problem at all. Just his

personality - at least he's willing/able to stick to his beliefs till

the very end, no matter what. :S heh.

 

I hope this clarifies how we did things a bit better,it was very

complicated and very frustrating off and on.

Missie

 

On Sun, Jul 20, 2008 at 8:23 AM, robin koloms <rkoloms wrote:

> Our family doctor told us to avoid the pullups for that very reason.

>

>

> --- On Fri, 7/18/08, angel.nail <angel.nail wrote:

>

> angel.nail <angel.nail

> Re: public restroom help

>

> Friday, July 18, 2008, 5:55 PM

>

> Wow this all is coming at a time when i am just starting to think

> about toilet training my 18 month old. To be honest i don't know where

> to start. He has started to let me know when e has done a poo but

> thats about all i am seeing from him. We don't drive so im trying to

> imagine carrying a blow up potty in my backpack!

>

> Good luck with it, everyone. My only suggestion about the pull ups and

> the kids liking them, is get them into cloth...they prob won't like

> being wet in those for very long!

>

> Ange

> @gro ups.com, Missie <mszzzi wrote:

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