I can't say I didn't know....(graphic--don't let your kids read please)

[Guest guest]

OMG. Several people on Dr. Fuhrman's Eat to Live had recently

sent in some suggestions of YouTube videos to watch. I had never seen videos on

animal cruelty, factory farming, etc., although I had heard about these

things many times. Finally today I decided to sit and watch some of them. I saw

part 1 of a talk by John Robbins. Very nice, great speaker, but nothing I

didn't already know. Then I watched Earthlings. Startling, excellent,

compelling--and graphic! I happened to be watching the segment on animal abuse

when my

10yo wandered into my bedroom. I am SICK right now because he happened to

catch a part when a dog was shot, and dumped into a garbage truck still alive!

I

couldn't even imagine such a thing happening, and I had no answers for his

questions. I HATE that he saw that.

 

After Earthlings, I had a few more vidoes I had been meaning to see, and I

had a bit more time, so I started watching Meet Your Meat. I got as far as the

scene of people THROWING chickens into a truck, and my mouth dropped open,

and I couldn't watch any more! They THREW them! I will go back to it, and watch

the other videos, but I have had enough for now.

 

I have heard over and over that these videos have convinced people to stop

eating meat, and I understood how that could possibly happen. At least I

thought I understood. Now I KNOW. I am not sure how the people in these videos

could survive with the things they do. They're not upset. They go home to their

wives and kids, and take them out to dinner and to the park, and even pet

their dogs. I am a 50 year old woman who has raised nine kids and been through

a

LOT in my life, and come through it, and I'm sitting here crying and I want

to throw up. Marilyn

 

 

 

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[Guest guest]

((Marilyn))

 

I hear you, Marilyn. I tend not to watch those movies because a)I'm already

vegan and that's not going to change and b)they tend to make me so upset I

don't even want to deal with humanity on any level after seeing them. That's

not productive or useful. I would recommend pacing yourself with these films

for your own sake. They can be really soul-crushing but in small doses, they

can also motivate. Set some protective limits for yourself. I know for

myself, seeing a film about the abuse of performing elephants (I think that

it was from PETA), it was so deeply disturbing that I was personally

traumatized and had PTSD-like symptoms for two seeks.

 

As for how people can do it, they have to be switching off a part of their

brains and objectifying the animals. Unless one is clearly sociopathic and

sadistic, in other words, has a mental illness, that's the only way that the

" average person " can commit acts of cruelty.

 

Peace to you, Marilyn.

 

Marla

 

 

> OMG. Several people on Dr. Fuhrman's Eat to Live had recently

> sent in some suggestions of YouTube videos to watch. I had never seen videos

> on

> animal cruelty, factory farming, etc., although I had heard about these

> things many times. Finally today I decided to sit and watch some of them. I

> saw

> part 1 of a talk by John Robbins. Very nice, great speaker, but nothing I

> didn't already know. Then I watched Earthlings. Startling, excellent,

> compelling--and graphic! I happened to be watching the segment on animal abuse

> when my

> 10yo wandered into my bedroom. I am SICK right now because he happened to

> catch a part when a dog was shot, and dumped into a garbage truck still

> alive! I

> couldn't even imagine such a thing happening, and I had no answers for his

> questions. I HATE that he saw that.

>

> After Earthlings, I had a few more vidoes I had been meaning to see, and I

> had a bit more time, so I started watching Meet Your Meat. I got as far as the

> scene of people THROWING chickens into a truck, and my mouth dropped open,

> and I couldn't watch any more! They THREW them! I will go back to it, and

> watch

> the other videos, but I have had enough for now.

>

> I have heard over and over that these videos have convinced people to stop

> eating meat, and I understood how that could possibly happen. At least I

> thought I understood. Now I KNOW. I am not sure how the people in these

> videos

> could survive with the things they do. They're not upset. They go home to

> their

> wives and kids, and take them out to dinner and to the park, and even pet

> their dogs. I am a 50 year old woman who has raised nine kids and been

> through a

> LOT in my life, and come through it, and I'm sitting here crying and I want

> to throw up. Marilyn

>

>

>

> **************It's only a deal if it's where you want to go. Find your travel

> deal here.

> (http://information.travel.aol.com/deals?ncid=aoltrv00050000000047)

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Marilyn,

 

for what it's worth, i completely understand your feelings. it's taken me

countless years and i still can't watch more than ten minutes of Meet Your

Meat in a sitting before i get violently ill. the one and only time i tried

to watch more than that, i literally couldn't eat solid foods again for

about a week and i was utterly inconsolable.

 

On Fri, Sep 5, 2008 at 10:04 AM, <sahmomof8 wrote:

 

> OMG. Several people on Dr. Fuhrman's Eat to Live had

> recently

> sent in some suggestions of YouTube videos to watch. I had never seen

> videos on

> animal cruelty, factory farming, etc., although I had heard about these

> things many times. Finally today I decided to sit and watch some of them. I

> saw

> part 1 of a talk by John Robbins. Very nice, great speaker, but nothing I

> didn't already know. Then I watched Earthlings. Startling, excellent,

> compelling--and graphic! I happened to be watching the segment on animal

> abuse when my

> 10yo wandered into my bedroom. I am SICK right now because he happened to

> catch a part when a dog was shot, and dumped into a garbage truck still

> alive! I

> couldn't even imagine such a thing happening, and I had no answers for his

> questions. I HATE that he saw that.

>

> After Earthlings, I had a few more vidoes I had been meaning to see, and I

> had a bit more time, so I started watching Meet Your Meat. I got as far as

> the

> scene of people THROWING chickens into a truck, and my mouth dropped open,

> and I couldn't watch any more! They THREW them! I will go back to it, and

> watch

> the other videos, but I have had enough for now.

>

> I have heard over and over that these videos have convinced people to stop

> eating meat, and I understood how that could possibly happen. At least I

> thought I understood. Now I KNOW. I am not sure how the people in these

> videos

> could survive with the things they do. They're not upset. They go home to

> their

> wives and kids, and take them out to dinner and to the park, and even pet

> their dogs. I am a 50 year old woman who has raised nine kids and been

> through a

> LOT in my life, and come through it, and I'm sitting here crying and I want

>

> to throw up. Marilyn

>

>

 

 

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^8^ Reni ^8^

 

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[Guest guest]

My mum worked for an animal advocacy group and was doing fundraising. She

had a stall with graffic pictures of animal cruelty, and to this day she has

still never seen those pictures. She would just put up the board without

looking and stand in front of it, referring to it but never looking at it! I

tried to watch a video on live animal skinning. I shook so badly and started

to dry wretch that i had to turn it off and was in a daze for ages. I think

the films are really good at shocking people, but i also think that

sometimes they need to be toned down a bit so people will actually watch

them, i think if people turn them off straight away than it can defeat the

purpose.

Ange

 

On Sat, Sep 6, 2008 at 5:36 AM, Reni <renireligion wrote:

 

> Marilyn,

>

> for what it's worth, i completely understand your feelings. it's taken me

> countless years and i still can't watch more than ten minutes of Meet Your

> Meat in a sitting before i get violently ill. the one and only time i tried

> to watch more than that, i literally couldn't eat solid foods again for

> about a week and i was utterly inconsolable.

>

>

> On Fri, Sep 5, 2008 at 10:04 AM, <sahmomof8 <sahmomof8%40aol.com>>

> wrote:

>

> > OMG. Several people on Dr. Fuhrman's Eat to Live had

> > recently

> > sent in some suggestions of YouTube videos to watch. I had never seen

> > videos on

> > animal cruelty, factory farming, etc., although I had heard about these

> > things many times. Finally today I decided to sit and watch some of them.

> I

> > saw

> > part 1 of a talk by John Robbins. Very nice, great speaker, but nothing I

> > didn't already know. Then I watched Earthlings. Startling, excellent,

> > compelling--and graphic! I happened to be watching the segment on animal

> > abuse when my

> > 10yo wandered into my bedroom. I am SICK right now because he happened to

> > catch a part when a dog was shot, and dumped into a garbage truck still

> > alive! I

> > couldn't even imagine such a thing happening, and I had no answers for

> his

> > questions. I HATE that he saw that.

> >

> > After Earthlings, I had a few more vidoes I had been meaning to see, and

> I

> > had a bit more time, so I started watching Meet Your Meat. I got as far

> as

> > the

> > scene of people THROWING chickens into a truck, and my mouth dropped

> open,

> > and I couldn't watch any more! They THREW them! I will go back to it, and

> > watch

> > the other videos, but I have had enough for now.

> >

> > I have heard over and over that these videos have convinced people to

> stop

> > eating meat, and I understood how that could possibly happen. At least I

> > thought I understood. Now I KNOW. I am not sure how the people in these

> > videos

> > could survive with the things they do. They're not upset. They go home to

> > their

> > wives and kids, and take them out to dinner and to the park, and even pet

> > their dogs. I am a 50 year old woman who has raised nine kids and been

> > through a

> > LOT in my life, and come through it, and I'm sitting here crying and I

> want

> >

> > to throw up. Marilyn

> >

> >

>

> --

> xoxo,

>

> ^8^ Reni ^8^

>

> HAIKU

> -------------------------

> Drag queens are the rea-

> Son I pluck my eyebrows. It's

> The least I can do.

>

> i'm so metal, i rust in the shower.

>

> putting the " wheeeeeeeee " back in weirdo

>

>