Guest guest Posted September 6, 2008 Report Share Posted September 6, 2008 My 5 year old just started Kindergarten, and was given rice krispie treats as a snack. The teacher had no idea there are animal products in there. Is there a list somewhere I can give them of commercial foods with " hidden " animal products? Thanks, Ann Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 6, 2008 Report Share Posted September 6, 2008 I'm not at ALL surprised about the rice krispie treats--at 10AM or anytime. That's tame compared to some of the garbage kids are given in school on a daily basis! That was one major factor in our decision to homeschool! For a couple of years, I sent in substitute treats, and the teachers gave them to my kids instead of whatever crap they were selling, or using as rewards (ick). The teachers probably thought I was a fanatic, and at the time I was just doing Feingold--not even that out of the mainstream as far as food goes. Add " vegan " to that? Oh my! That was also one reason we gave up on sending our kids to VBS. They made a different, sickening " treat " each and every day, and I got tired trying to run out to Whole Foods to buy all natural soy chocolate pudding and gummy worms at 9AM and get them back there for the project! That being said--I actually did see all natural rice krispie treats in Whole Foods this past week. I didn't read the label to see if they were vegan because I wasn't buying them. But I HAVE seen vegan rice krispie treats in a local health food store, so maybe these are vegan too. It's worth a look. I have found equivalents for just about every sickening item the schools can throw at my kids. And if not, they are fine with an alternative, or with handing it over to me afterwards and " trading " for a healthier treat from the stash I keep on hand for them. It can be done. Marilyn **************Psssst...Have you heard the news? There's a new fashion blog, plus the latest fall trends and hair styles at StyleList.com. (http://www.stylelist.com/trends?ncid=aolsty00050000000014) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 6, 2008 Report Share Posted September 6, 2008 I am stunned that a teacher would give kids rice krispy treats as a 'snack'! I would have a discussion with that teacher re: this immediately.If that doesn't get you anywhere, go to the principal. Teachers are educated enough to know that stuffing kids full of sugar at 10 am will do nothing for their thought processes- and may harm them. I am saying this as a former public school teacher- and someone who is not 'over the top' when it comes to never giving kids sugar, etc. I just hate to think of my kids being fed that stuff so early in the morning-and as a matter of habit. Someone else may be able to direct you towards a list of foods that are not veg or vegan friendly- but it seems to me the teacher may be better off with a list of raw ingredients since a list of commercial foods would be impossible to keep up with. S/he may look askance at you about having to read labels, but they would do the same-quite willingly and without a thought- if a kid had, say, a peanut allergy. Your kid deserves the same respect. I have a child who has started Kindergarten this year, and I plan to do the same. We aren't vegan, but I certainly don't want her eating gelatin, broth, etc- things that the meat eating population probably doesn't consider an 'animal' product. As a back-up, I'd send a box of something non-perishable as a back-up for when s/he can't have what the rest of the class is eating. If the teacher gives you a hard time ( which I don't think they will, aside from thinking to themselves that you're a little nutty), remind them that they WOULD do the same for a no-peanut kid, or a Hindu kid, etc. Also inform them that the animal products can make your child quite ill- teachers and schools will take that seriously because of the magic word- lawsuit. annsfarm4444 <catlady4444 Saturday, September 6, 2008 12:12:53 PM Commercial foods with hidden animal products My 5 year old just started Kindergarten, and was given rice krispie treats as a snack. The teacher had no idea there are animal products in there. Is there a list somewhere I can give them of commercial foods with " hidden " animal products? Thanks, Ann Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 6, 2008 Report Share Posted September 6, 2008 I wouldn't be so stunned, Jenni. Where I'm a teacher, I'm the only one who doesn't give out candy as rewards and smacks. The other teachers on my team all have large jars of candy that they hand out when a child brings in homework or does what he or she is supposed to do. I understand and believe in the effects of positive reinforcement when a student does as he or she is supposed to do or for exceptional behavior, however I don't give out candy or sweets of any kind. I always got upset when teachers did that with my kids and I won't do it to other's kids. Some of the teachers realized the effects of the sugars and the dyes so would give the " treats " to the kids and tell them they could eat them when school was out so that the parents got the effects rather than the teachers. I really disliked that. I tell my students on the first day of school not to expect candy and other sweets from me as treats. They can earn extra recess time, free homework passes, being teacher's helper for the day, lunch with the teacher, so on and so forth. I do keep wasabi peas (yes, some of the students LOVE those), pumpkin seeds, peanuts (when I am sure I have no one allergic to nuts in my class), carrots, and other healthy food treats such as these to use as edible rewards. The students seem to like these types of rewards more than the candy sort. God's Peace, Gayle - jenni claire garverick Saturday, September 06, 2008 3:35 PM Re: Commercial foods with hidden animal products I am stunned that a teacher would give kids rice krispy treats as a 'snack'! I would have a discussion with that teacher re: this immediately.If that doesn't get you anywhere, go to the principal. Teachers are educated enough to know that stuffing kids full of sugar at 10 am will do nothing for their thought processes- and may harm them. I am saying this as a former public school teacher- and someone who is not 'over the top' when it comes to never giving kids sugar, etc. I just hate to think of my kids being fed that stuff so early in the morning-and as a matter of habit. Someone else may be able to direct you towards a list of foods that are not veg or vegan friendly- but it seems to me the teacher may be better off with a list of raw ingredients since a list of commercial foods would be impossible to keep up with. S/he may look askance at you about having to read labels, but they would do the same-quite willingly and without a thought- if a kid had, say, a peanut allergy. Your kid deserves the same respect. I have a child who has started Kindergarten this year, and I plan to do the same. We aren't vegan, but I certainly don't want her eating gelatin, broth, etc- things that the meat eating population probably doesn't consider an 'animal' product. As a back-up, I'd send a box of something non-perishable as a back-up for when s/he can't have what the rest of the class is eating. If the teacher gives you a hard time ( which I don't think they will, aside from thinking to themselves that you're a little nutty), remind them that they WOULD do the same for a no-peanut kid, or a Hindu kid, etc. Also inform them that the animal products can make your child quite ill- teachers and schools will take that seriously because of the magic word- lawsuit. annsfarm4444 <catlady4444 Saturday, September 6, 2008 12:12:53 PM Commercial foods with hidden animal products My 5 year old just started Kindergarten, and was given rice krispie treats as a snack. The teacher had no idea there are animal products in there. Is there a list somewhere I can give them of commercial foods with " hidden " animal products? Thanks, Ann Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 7, 2008 Report Share Posted September 7, 2008 OK, I'm sorry---it's not as bad as it sounded. I oversimplified: the " snack " was given to her by the ladies who run the after-school care program at the school. They watch the kids of working parents from 3:40 to 6. That ony explains away the sugary snack in the morning part! They were surprisingly concerned and open to help with this issue. I am trying to give them the benefit of the doubt---they actually requested the list of foods with animal products for their own use. Also, I was unaware that they put out a list with the snacks for the month. I'm only 1 week into the public school system and I have stacks of papers to go through: didn't see that one. I will talk to them more and check the snack list. I am just looking for this information for everyone's convenience; I'm sure a list exists somewhere. Ann , jenni claire garverick <jennigarverick wrote: > > I am stunned that a teacher would give kids rice krispy treats as a 'snack'! I would have a discussion with that teacher re: this immediately.If that doesn't get you anywhere, go to the principal. Teachers are educated enough to know that stuffing kids full of sugar at 10 am will do nothing for their thought processes- and may harm them. I am saying this as a former public school teacher- and someone who is not 'over the top' when it comes to never giving kids sugar, etc. I just hate to think of my kids being fed that stuff so early in the morning-and as a matter of habit. > Someone else may be able to direct you towards a list of foods that are not veg or vegan friendly- but it seems to me the teacher may be better off with a list of raw ingredients since a list of commercial foods would be impossible to keep up with. S/he may look askance at you about having to read labels, but they would do the same-quite willingly and without a thought- if a kid had, say, a peanut allergy. Your kid deserves the same respect. I have a child who has started Kindergarten this year, and I plan to do the same. We aren't vegan, but I certainly don't want her eating gelatin, broth, etc- things that the meat eating population probably doesn't consider an 'animal' product. As a back-up, I'd send a box of something non-perishable as a back-up for when s/he can't have what the rest of the class is eating. If the teacher gives you a hard time ( which I don't think they will, aside from thinking to themselves that you're a little nutty), remind them > that they WOULD do the same for a no-peanut kid, or a Hindu kid, etc. Also inform them that the animal products can make your child quite ill- teachers and schools will take that seriously because of the magic word- lawsuit. > > > > > annsfarm4444 <catlady4444 > > Saturday, September 6, 2008 12:12:53 PM > Commercial foods with hidden animal products > > > My 5 year old just started Kindergarten, and was given rice krispie > treats as a snack. The teacher had no idea there are animal products > in there. Is there a list somewhere I can give them of commercial > foods with " hidden " animal products? > Thanks, > Ann Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 7, 2008 Report Share Posted September 7, 2008 Marilyn, The rice crispie treats we saw at Sweet Bay (mainstream grocery store) in the health food section are vegan. I let my kids try them and they complained they were too sweet (Yeah!). I tried one also and didn't think they were that good but other folks might think differently. They were *very* expensive for what they are so I'm really glad my kids didn't really like them. But, they are vegan in case anyone wants to try them. My kids are prone to leaving empty boxes in the pantry when they finish something off. I just looked to see if they left this one so I could give the name and ingredients, but I guess they're finally listening to me. Heck of a time to listen to me, right? ) God's Peace, Gayle - sahmomof8 Saturday, September 06, 2008 5:42 PM Re: Commercial foods with hidden animal products I'm not at ALL surprised about the rice krispie treats--at 10AM or anytime. That's tame compared to some of the garbage kids are given in school on a daily basis! That was one major factor in our decision to homeschool! For a couple of years, I sent in substitute treats, and the teachers gave them to my kids instead of whatever crap they were selling, or using as rewards (ick). The teachers probably thought I was a fanatic, and at the time I was just doing Feingold--not even that out of the mainstream as far as food goes. Add " vegan " to that? Oh my! That was also one reason we gave up on sending our kids to VBS. They made a different, sickening " treat " each and every day, and I got tired trying to run out to Whole Foods to buy all natural soy chocolate pudding and gummy worms at 9AM and get them back there for the project! That being said--I actually did see all natural rice krispie treats in Whole Foods this past week. I didn't read the label to see if they were vegan because I wasn't buying them. But I HAVE seen vegan rice krispie treats in a local health food store, so maybe these are vegan too. It's worth a look. I have found equivalents for just about every sickening item the schools can throw at my kids. And if not, they are fine with an alternative, or with handing it over to me afterwards and " trading " for a healthier treat from the stash I keep on hand for them. It can be done. Marilyn **************Psssst...Have you heard the news? There's a new fashion blog, plus the latest fall trends and hair styles at StyleList.com. (http://www.stylelist.com/trends?ncid=aolsty00050000000014) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 7, 2008 Report Share Posted September 7, 2008 Animal products aside, it is amazing what schools will actually " allow " students to bring in to share. Our district has this " healthy " food objective going, but seem to contradict themselves left and right. The lunches alone prove that their " healthy " program is not. Last year they passed out a pamphlet stating what snack foods kids could bring in for birthdays and holidays. I looked at the list and was stunned. In addition to the rice krispy treats, most of the snacks had a ton of sugar, HFCS, and/or artificial colors and flavors in them. Healthy? I think not. Off hand, I cannot even think of one snack that I spotted on the list that I would consider to be healthy. This year, they passed out a note saying that students can only bring in non-food treats to share now. I don't see that lasting. What gets me, though, is that the teachers are still allowed to provide " junkfood " for the students. Where is the sense in that? , jenni claire garverick <jennigarverick wrote: > > I am stunned that a teacher would give kids rice krispy treats as a 'snack'! I would have a discussion with that teacher re: this immediately.If that doesn't get you anywhere, go to the principal. Teachers are educated enough to know that stuffing kids full of sugar at 10 am will do nothing for their thought processes- and may harm them. I am saying this as a former public school teacher- and someone who is not 'over the top' when it comes to never giving kids sugar, etc. I just hate to think of my kids being fed that stuff so early in the morning-and as a matter of habit. > Someone else may be able to direct you towards a list of foods that are not veg or vegan friendly- but it seems to me the teacher may be better off with a list of raw ingredients since a list of commercial foods would be impossible to keep up with. S/he may look askance at you about having to read labels, but they would do the same-quite willingly and without a thought- if a kid had, say, a peanut allergy. Your kid deserves the same respect. I have a child who has started Kindergarten this year, and I plan to do the same. We aren't vegan, but I certainly don't want her eating gelatin, broth, etc- things that the meat eating population probably doesn't consider an 'animal' product. As a back-up, I'd send a box of something non-perishable as a back-up for when s/he can't have what the rest of the class is eating. If the teacher gives you a hard time ( which I don't think they will, aside from thinking to themselves that you're a little nutty), remind them > that they WOULD do the same for a no-peanut kid, or a Hindu kid, etc. Also inform them that the animal products can make your child quite ill- teachers and schools will take that seriously because of the magic word- lawsuit. > > > > > annsfarm4444 <catlady4444 > > Saturday, September 6, 2008 12:12:53 PM > Commercial foods with hidden animal products > > > My 5 year old just started Kindergarten, and was given rice krispie > treats as a snack. The teacher had no idea there are animal products > in there. Is there a list somewhere I can give them of commercial > foods with " hidden " animal products? > Thanks, > Ann Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 8, 2008 Report Share Posted September 8, 2008 I'm a teacher...our school district provides rice krispy treats as a snack for both am and pm extended day. Most public school meals are chock full of sugar to provide the number of calories they're required to shovel into kids. My child will eat NOTHING provided by public school. as for lists...I've written lists for my son's preschools, and have taken him out of two schools for them claiming to be totally unaware of the lists I provided them with multiple times. I'm not a nazi about it (I didn't freak when I found my 1 year old chewing on a chicken nugget he'd found on the floor...ONCE), but have had terrible luck with lists. I've had the best luck with having THEM provide ME with a list of everything my child might possibly eat while in care...then I crossed off the stuff I didn't want them to have.....it saved them scanning labels for ingredients they don't understand, and has worked so far. , jenni claire garverick <jennigarverick wrote: > > I am stunned that a teacher would give kids rice krispy treats as a 'snack'! I would have a discussion with that teacher re: this immediately.If that doesn't get you anywhere, go to the principal. Teachers are educated enough to know that stuffing kids full of sugar at 10 am will do nothing for their thought processes- and may harm them. I am saying this as a former public school teacher- and someone who is not 'over the top' when it comes to never giving kids sugar, etc. I just hate to think of my kids being fed that stuff so early in the morning-and as a matter of habit. > Someone else may be able to direct you towards a list of foods that are not veg or vegan friendly- but it seems to me the teacher may be better off with a list of raw ingredients since a list of commercial foods would be impossible to keep up with. S/he may look askance at you about having to read labels, but they would do the same-quite willingly and without a thought- if a kid had, say, a peanut allergy. Your kid deserves the same respect. I have a child who has started Kindergarten this year, and I plan to do the same. We aren't vegan, but I certainly don't want her eating gelatin, broth, etc- things that the meat eating population probably doesn't consider an 'animal' product. As a back-up, I'd send a box of something non-perishable as a back-up for when s/he can't have what the rest of the class is eating. If the teacher gives you a hard time ( which I don't think they will, aside from thinking to themselves that you're a little nutty), remind them > that they WOULD do the same for a no-peanut kid, or a Hindu kid, etc. Also inform them that the animal products can make your child quite ill- teachers and schools will take that seriously because of the magic word- lawsuit. > > > > > annsfarm4444 <catlady4444 > > Saturday, September 6, 2008 12:12:53 PM > Commercial foods with hidden animal products > > > My 5 year old just started Kindergarten, and was given rice krispie > treats as a snack. The teacher had no idea there are animal products > in there. Is there a list somewhere I can give them of commercial > foods with " hidden " animal products? > Thanks, > Ann Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 8, 2008 Report Share Posted September 8, 2008 I have made my own rice krispy treats, and it's not hard to do. I used vegan marshmallow creme (Ricemellow brand), vegan margarine, and organic brown rice krispies. Just follow the directions on that *other* box. Marilyn **************Psssst...Have you heard the news? There's a new fashion blog, plus the latest fall trends and hair styles at StyleList.com. (http://www.stylelist.com/trends?ncid=aolsty00050000000014) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 8, 2008 Report Share Posted September 8, 2008 She could not understand this. She told him he was allowed to have it and that it was ok. Grant responded it was loaded with sugar and bad for him. Plus he didnt like them. Way to go, Grant!!! The student obviously knows more than the teacher here. He gets an A+ in MY book! BTW--my kids do things like this too. Their favorite thing to do is go into mainstream grocery stores and read the labels out loud and critique them for all to hear! LOL! We get some smiles and nods, and some pretty strange looks. But I'm so proud of them! Marilyn **************Psssst...Have you heard the news? There's a new fashion blog, plus the latest fall trends and hair styles at StyleList.com. (http://www.stylelist.com/trends?ncid=aolsty00050000000014) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 8, 2008 Report Share Posted September 8, 2008 I have had this in many of my sons classes the funny part is that my son will not eat it and does not regard it as a prize. on the first day of class I packed him Almonds for snack but the teacher told the class she was providing snack. Chocolate chip cookies and oreos. My son protested. She could not understand this. She told him he was allowed to have it and that it was ok. Grant responded it was loaded with sugar and bad for him. Plus he didnt like them. We have always taught him about nutritional and what is in the food he eats. He made these decisions for himsel as I do eat cookies and candy and have never told him not to, we just tell him what is in it and how it effects his body. --- On Sat, 9/6/08, Gayle <dilemma5 wrote: Gayle <dilemma5 Re: Commercial foods with hidden animal products Saturday, September 6, 2008, 5:54 PM I wouldn't be so stunned, Jenni. Where I'm a teacher, I'm the only one who doesn't give out candy as rewards and smacks. The other teachers on my team all have large jars of candy that they hand out when a child brings in homework or does what he or she is supposed to do. I understand and believe in the effects of positive reinforcement when a student does as he or she is supposed to do or for exceptional behavior, however I don't give out candy or sweets of any kind. I always got upset when teachers did that with my kids and I won't do it to other's kids. Some of the teachers realized the effects of the sugars and the dyes so would give the " treats " to the kids and tell them they could eat them when school was out so that the parents got the effects rather than the teachers. I really disliked that. I tell my students on the first day of school not to expect candy and other sweets from me as treats. They can earn extra recess time, free homework passes, being teacher's helper for the day, lunch with the teacher, so on and so forth. I do keep wasabi peas (yes, some of the students LOVE those), pumpkin seeds, peanuts (when I am sure I have no one allergic to nuts in my class), carrots, and other healthy food treats such as these to use as edible rewards. The students seem to like these types of rewards more than the candy sort. God's Peace, Gayle - jenni claire garverick @gro ups.com Saturday, September 06, 2008 3:35 PM Re: Commercial foods with hidden animal products I am stunned that a teacher would give kids rice krispy treats as a 'snack'! I would have a discussion with that teacher re: this immediately. If that doesn't get you anywhere, go to the principal. Teachers are educated enough to know that stuffing kids full of sugar at 10 am will do nothing for their thought processes- and may harm them. I am saying this as a former public school teacher- and someone who is not 'over the top' when it comes to never giving kids sugar, etc. I just hate to think of my kids being fed that stuff so early in the morning-and as a matter of habit. Someone else may be able to direct you towards a list of foods that are not veg or vegan friendly- but it seems to me the teacher may be better off with a list of raw ingredients since a list of commercial foods would be impossible to keep up with. S/he may look askance at you about having to read labels, but they would do the same-quite willingly and without a thought- if a kid had, say, a peanut allergy. Your kid deserves the same respect. I have a child who has started Kindergarten this year, and I plan to do the same. We aren't vegan, but I certainly don't want her eating gelatin, broth, etc- things that the meat eating population probably doesn't consider an 'animal' product. As a back-up, I'd send a box of something non-perishable as a back-up for when s/he can't have what the rest of the class is eating. If the teacher gives you a hard time ( which I don't think they will, aside from thinking to themselves that you're a little nutty), remind them that they WOULD do the same for a no-peanut kid, or a Hindu kid, etc. Also inform them that the animal products can make your child quite ill- teachers and schools will take that seriously because of the magic word- lawsuit. annsfarm4444 <catlady4444@ verizon.net> @gro ups.com Saturday, September 6, 2008 12:12:53 PM Commercial foods with hidden animal products My 5 year old just started Kindergarten, and was given rice krispie treats as a snack. The teacher had no idea there are animal products in there. Is there a list somewhere I can give them of commercial foods with " hidden " animal products? Thanks, Ann Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 9, 2008 Report Share Posted September 9, 2008 I am currently the luckiest vegetarian when it comes to child care, as my daughter's teacher is also ovo-vegetarian, so when I told her what the deal was and explained the list to her, she put me at ease immediately. BUT, I also have a list in her book bag, one in her file in the office, and the teachers posted a list on their board, along with the allergy notices. And, while registering her, I had a form to fill out on allergies and I listed Vegetarian in bold letters. Lastly, I have provided all the meals and snacks my child could possibly have while in school. The only things on my list that the school can provide her is fruits and raw veggies. Other than that, they serve her the snack I brought in. I find it saving the confusion as well. I check the box at the end of the week and refill it when the time comes. Usually a cracker or wheat-free organic cookie. Cassie --- On Sun, 9/7/08, Caryn Kluz <carynkluz wrote: Caryn Kluz <carynkluz Re: Commercial foods with hidden animal products Sunday, September 7, 2008, 8:19 PM I'm a teacher...our school district provides rice krispy treats as a snack for both am and pm extended day. Most public school meals are chock full of sugar to provide the number of calories they're required to shovel into kids. My child will eat NOTHING provided by public school. as for lists...I've written lists for my son's preschools, and have taken him out of two schools for them claiming to be totally unaware of the lists I provided them with multiple times. I'm not a nazi about it (I didn't freak when I found my 1 year old chewing on a chicken nugget he'd found on the floor...ONCE) , but have had terrible luck with lists. I've had the best luck with having THEM provide ME with a list of everything my child might possibly eat while in care...then I crossed off the stuff I didn't want them to have.....it saved them scanning labels for ingredients they don't understand, and has worked so far. @gro ups.com, jenni claire garverick <jennigarverick@ ...> wrote: > > I am stunned that a teacher would give kids rice krispy treats as a 'snack'! I would have a discussion with that teacher re: this immediately. If that doesn't get you anywhere, go to the principal. Teachers are educated enough to know that stuffing kids full of sugar at 10 am will do nothing for their thought processes- and may harm them. I am saying this as a former public school teacher- and someone who is not 'over the top' when it comes to never giving kids sugar, etc. I just hate to think of my kids being fed that stuff so early in the morning-and as a matter of habit. > Someone else may be able to direct you towards a list of foods that are not veg or vegan friendly- but it seems to me the teacher may be better off with a list of raw ingredients since a list of commercial foods would be impossible to keep up with. S/he may look askance at you about having to read labels, but they would do the same-quite willingly and without a thought- if a kid had, say, a peanut allergy. Your kid deserves the same respect. I have a child who has started Kindergarten this year, and I plan to do the same. We aren't vegan, but I certainly don't want her eating gelatin, broth, etc- things that the meat eating population probably doesn't consider an 'animal' product. As a back-up, I'd send a box of something non-perishable as a back-up for when s/he can't have what the rest of the class is eating. If the teacher gives you a hard time ( which I don't think they will, aside from thinking to themselves that you're a little nutty), remind them > that they WOULD do the same for a no-peanut kid, or a Hindu kid, etc. Also inform them that the animal products can make your child quite ill- teachers and schools will take that seriously because of the magic word- lawsuit. > > > > > annsfarm4444 <catlady4444@ ...> > @gro ups.com > Saturday, September 6, 2008 12:12:53 PM > Commercial foods with hidden animal products > > > My 5 year old just started Kindergarten, and was given rice krispie > treats as a snack. The teacher had no idea there are animal products > in there. Is there a list somewhere I can give them of commercial > foods with " hidden " animal products? > Thanks, > Ann > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 9, 2008 Report Share Posted September 9, 2008 I am a teacher, and truly can't believe some of the professionals I hear about. I have lunch duty this week, so I am in the cafeteria as the students eat a meat-ladden meal I have been contemplating all weekend whether I should switch duty and be on the recess field in the heat, or watch the students eat the worst things they could. I decided to suck it up, but now I am wondering if there is a way to encourage the kids to eat those carrot sticks or salty, watery green beans that are over cooked. I mean, pizza sounded good to me, as well, until I saw it. Yuck! A few of the girls took a salad, but only 1 of them ate it. I am not encouraging the students to drink their milk. I am not encouraging them to not drink their milk... Is that how it works? Cassie --- On Mon, 9/8/08, Lebasi <lebasi.klotko wrote: Lebasi <lebasi.klotko Re: Commercial foods with hidden animal products Monday, September 8, 2008, 9:09 AM I have had this in many of my sons classes the funny part is that my son will not eat it and does not regard it as a prize. on the first day of class I packed him Almonds for snack but the teacher told the class she was providing snack. Chocolate chip cookies and oreos. My son protested. She could not understand this. She told him he was allowed to have it and that it was ok. Grant responded it was loaded with sugar and bad for him. Plus he didnt like them. We have always taught him about nutritional and what is in the food he eats. He made these decisions for himsel as I do eat cookies and candy and have never told him not to, we just tell him what is in it and how it effects his body. --- On Sat, 9/6/08, Gayle <dilemma5 (AT) earthlink (DOT) net> wrote: Gayle <dilemma5 (AT) earthlink (DOT) net> Re: Commercial foods with hidden animal products @gro ups.com Saturday, September 6, 2008, 5:54 PM I wouldn't be so stunned, Jenni. Where I'm a teacher, I'm the only one who doesn't give out candy as rewards and smacks. The other teachers on my team all have large jars of candy that they hand out when a child brings in homework or does what he or she is supposed to do. I understand and believe in the effects of positive reinforcement when a student does as he or she is supposed to do or for exceptional behavior, however I don't give out candy or sweets of any kind. I always got upset when teachers did that with my kids and I won't do it to other's kids. Some of the teachers realized the effects of the sugars and the dyes so would give the " treats " to the kids and tell them they could eat them when school was out so that the parents got the effects rather than the teachers. I really disliked that. I tell my students on the first day of school not to expect candy and other sweets from me as treats. They can earn extra recess time, free homework passes, being teacher's helper for the day, lunch with the teacher, so on and so forth. I do keep wasabi peas (yes, some of the students LOVE those), pumpkin seeds, peanuts (when I am sure I have no one allergic to nuts in my class), carrots, and other healthy food treats such as these to use as edible rewards. The students seem to like these types of rewards more than the candy sort. God's Peace, Gayle - jenni claire garverick @gro ups.com Saturday, September 06, 2008 3:35 PM Re: Commercial foods with hidden animal products I am stunned that a teacher would give kids rice krispy treats as a 'snack'! I would have a discussion with that teacher re: this immediately. If that doesn't get you anywhere, go to the principal. Teachers are educated enough to know that stuffing kids full of sugar at 10 am will do nothing for their thought processes- and may harm them. I am saying this as a former public school teacher- and someone who is not 'over the top' when it comes to never giving kids sugar, etc. I just hate to think of my kids being fed that stuff so early in the morning-and as a matter of habit. Someone else may be able to direct you towards a list of foods that are not veg or vegan friendly- but it seems to me the teacher may be better off with a list of raw ingredients since a list of commercial foods would be impossible to keep up with. S/he may look askance at you about having to read labels, but they would do the same-quite willingly and without a thought- if a kid had, say, a peanut allergy. Your kid deserves the same respect. I have a child who has started Kindergarten this year, and I plan to do the same. We aren't vegan, but I certainly don't want her eating gelatin, broth, etc- things that the meat eating population probably doesn't consider an 'animal' product. As a back-up, I'd send a box of something non-perishable as a back-up for when s/he can't have what the rest of the class is eating. If the teacher gives you a hard time ( which I don't think they will, aside from thinking to themselves that you're a little nutty), remind them that they WOULD do the same for a no-peanut kid, or a Hindu kid, etc. Also inform them that the animal products can make your child quite ill- teachers and schools will take that seriously because of the magic word- lawsuit. annsfarm4444 <catlady4444@ verizon.net> @gro ups.com Saturday, September 6, 2008 12:12:53 PM Commercial foods with hidden animal products My 5 year old just started Kindergarten, and was given rice krispie treats as a snack. The teacher had no idea there are animal products in there. Is there a list somewhere I can give them of commercial foods with " hidden " animal products? Thanks, Ann Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 9, 2008 Report Share Posted September 9, 2008 My daughter won't eat the school salads. She said they have brown iceburg lettuce and soggy carrots. --- On Mon, 9/8/08, Cassie Dixon <roxy87cabriolet wrote: Cassie Dixon <roxy87cabriolet Re: Commercial foods with hidden animal products Monday, September 8, 2008, 8:20 PM I am a teacher, and truly can't believe some of the professionals I hear about. I have lunch duty this week, so I am in the cafeteria as the students eat a meat-ladden meal I have been contemplating all weekend whether I should switch duty and be on the recess field in the heat, or watch the students eat the worst things they could. I decided to suck it up, but now I am wondering if there is a way to encourage the kids to eat those carrot sticks or salty, watery green beans that are over cooked. I mean, pizza sounded good to me, as well, until I saw it. Yuck! A few of the girls took a salad, but only 1 of them ate it. I am not encouraging the students to drink their milk. I am not encouraging them to not drink their milk... Is that how it works? Cassie --- On Mon, 9/8/08, Lebasi <lebasi.klotko@ > wrote: Lebasi <lebasi.klotko@ > Re: Commercial foods with hidden animal products @gro ups.com Monday, September 8, 2008, 9:09 AM I have had this in many of my sons classes the funny part is that my son will not eat it and does not regard it as a prize. on the first day of class I packed him Almonds for snack but the teacher told the class she was providing snack. Chocolate chip cookies and oreos. My son protested. She could not understand this. She told him he was allowed to have it and that it was ok. Grant responded it was loaded with sugar and bad for him. Plus he didnt like them. We have always taught him about nutritional and what is in the food he eats. He made these decisions for himsel as I do eat cookies and candy and have never told him not to, we just tell him what is in it and how it effects his body. --- On Sat, 9/6/08, Gayle <dilemma5@earthlink . net> wrote: Gayle <dilemma5@earthlink . net> Re: Commercial foods with hidden animal products @gro ups.com Saturday, September 6, 2008, 5:54 PM I wouldn't be so stunned, Jenni. Where I'm a teacher, I'm the only one who doesn't give out candy as rewards and smacks. The other teachers on my team all have large jars of candy that they hand out when a child brings in homework or does what he or she is supposed to do. I understand and believe in the effects of positive reinforcement when a student does as he or she is supposed to do or for exceptional behavior, however I don't give out candy or sweets of any kind. I always got upset when teachers did that with my kids and I won't do it to other's kids. Some of the teachers realized the effects of the sugars and the dyes so would give the " treats " to the kids and tell them they could eat them when school was out so that the parents got the effects rather than the teachers. I really disliked that. I tell my students on the first day of school not to expect candy and other sweets from me as treats. They can earn extra recess time, free homework passes, being teacher's helper for the day, lunch with the teacher, so on and so forth. I do keep wasabi peas (yes, some of the students LOVE those), pumpkin seeds, peanuts (when I am sure I have no one allergic to nuts in my class), carrots, and other healthy food treats such as these to use as edible rewards. The students seem to like these types of rewards more than the candy sort. God's Peace, Gayle - jenni claire garverick @gro ups.com Saturday, September 06, 2008 3:35 PM Re: Commercial foods with hidden animal products I am stunned that a teacher would give kids rice krispy treats as a 'snack'! I would have a discussion with that teacher re: this immediately. If that doesn't get you anywhere, go to the principal. Teachers are educated enough to know that stuffing kids full of sugar at 10 am will do nothing for their thought processes- and may harm them. I am saying this as a former public school teacher- and someone who is not 'over the top' when it comes to never giving kids sugar, etc. I just hate to think of my kids being fed that stuff so early in the morning-and as a matter of habit. Someone else may be able to direct you towards a list of foods that are not veg or vegan friendly- but it seems to me the teacher may be better off with a list of raw ingredients since a list of commercial foods would be impossible to keep up with. S/he may look askance at you about having to read labels, but they would do the same-quite willingly and without a thought- if a kid had, say, a peanut allergy. Your kid deserves the same respect. I have a child who has started Kindergarten this year, and I plan to do the same. We aren't vegan, but I certainly don't want her eating gelatin, broth, etc- things that the meat eating population probably doesn't consider an 'animal' product. As a back-up, I'd send a box of something non-perishable as a back-up for when s/he can't have what the rest of the class is eating. If the teacher gives you a hard time ( which I don't think they will, aside from thinking to themselves that you're a little nutty), remind them that they WOULD do the same for a no-peanut kid, or a Hindu kid, etc. Also inform them that the animal products can make your child quite ill- teachers and schools will take that seriously because of the magic word- lawsuit. annsfarm4444 <catlady4444@ verizon.net> @gro ups.com Saturday, September 6, 2008 12:12:53 PM Commercial foods with hidden animal products My 5 year old just started Kindergarten, and was given rice krispie treats as a snack. The teacher had no idea there are animal products in there. Is there a list somewhere I can give them of commercial foods with " hidden " animal products? Thanks, Ann Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 9, 2008 Report Share Posted September 9, 2008 They offer chef salads at my kids' school, but with the meat on the side. One lunch lady used to tell my older daughter that she need to " get her protein " , but then another one informed her that she is a vegetarian and she did stop. But many definitely don't get it. Their school has started a " healthy " lunch/snack program. It's funny really. Almost makes me feel like we are health nuts. Jill Cassie Dixon <roxy87cabriolet Monday, September 8, 2008 8:20:42 PM Re: Commercial foods with hidden animal products I am a teacher, and truly can't believe some of the professionals I hear about. I have lunch duty this week, so I am in the cafeteria as the students eat a meat-ladden meal I have been contemplating all weekend whether I should switch duty and be on the recess field in the heat, or watch the students eat the worst things they could. I decided to suck it up, but now I am wondering if there is a way to encourage the kids to eat those carrot sticks or salty, watery green beans that are over cooked. I mean, pizza sounded good to me, as well, until I saw it. Yuck! A few of the girls took a salad, but only 1 of them ate it. I am not encouraging the students to drink their milk. I am not encouraging them to not drink their milk... Is that how it works? Cassie --- On Mon, 9/8/08, Lebasi <lebasi.klotko@ > wrote: Lebasi <lebasi.klotko@ > Re: Commercial foods with hidden animal products @gro ups.com Monday, September 8, 2008, 9:09 AM I have had this in many of my sons classes the funny part is that my son will not eat it and does not regard it as a prize. on the first day of class I packed him Almonds for snack but the teacher told the class she was providing snack. Chocolate chip cookies and oreos. My son protested. She could not understand this. She told him he was allowed to have it and that it was ok. Grant responded it was loaded with sugar and bad for him. Plus he didnt like them. We have always taught him about nutritional and what is in the food he eats. He made these decisions for himsel as I do eat cookies and candy and have never told him not to, we just tell him what is in it and how it effects his body. --- On Sat, 9/6/08, Gayle <dilemma5@earthlink . net> wrote: Gayle <dilemma5@earthlink . net> Re: Commercial foods with hidden animal products @gro ups.com Saturday, September 6, 2008, 5:54 PM I wouldn't be so stunned, Jenni. Where I'm a teacher, I'm the only one who doesn't give out candy as rewards and smacks. The other teachers on my team all have large jars of candy that they hand out when a child brings in homework or does what he or she is supposed to do. I understand and believe in the effects of positive reinforcement when a student does as he or she is supposed to do or for exceptional behavior, however I don't give out candy or sweets of any kind. I always got upset when teachers did that with my kids and I won't do it to other's kids. Some of the teachers realized the effects of the sugars and the dyes so would give the " treats " to the kids and tell them they could eat them when school was out so that the parents got the effects rather than the teachers. I really disliked that. I tell my students on the first day of school not to expect candy and other sweets from me as treats. They can earn extra recess time, free homework passes, being teacher's helper for the day, lunch with the teacher, so on and so forth. I do keep wasabi peas (yes, some of the students LOVE those), pumpkin seeds, peanuts (when I am sure I have no one allergic to nuts in my class), carrots, and other healthy food treats such as these to use as edible rewards. The students seem to like these types of rewards more than the candy sort. God's Peace, Gayle - jenni claire garverick @gro ups.com Saturday, September 06, 2008 3:35 PM Re: Commercial foods with hidden animal products I am stunned that a teacher would give kids rice krispy treats as a 'snack'! I would have a discussion with that teacher re: this immediately. If that doesn't get you anywhere, go to the principal. Teachers are educated enough to know that stuffing kids full of sugar at 10 am will do nothing for their thought processes- and may harm them. I am saying this as a former public school teacher- and someone who is not 'over the top' when it comes to never giving kids sugar, etc. I just hate to think of my kids being fed that stuff so early in the morning-and as a matter of habit. Someone else may be able to direct you towards a list of foods that are not veg or vegan friendly- but it seems to me the teacher may be better off with a list of raw ingredients since a list of commercial foods would be impossible to keep up with. S/he may look askance at you about having to read labels, but they would do the same-quite willingly and without a thought- if a kid had, say, a peanut allergy. Your kid deserves the same respect. I have a child who has started Kindergarten this year, and I plan to do the same. We aren't vegan, but I certainly don't want her eating gelatin, broth, etc- things that the meat eating population probably doesn't consider an 'animal' product. As a back-up, I'd send a box of something non-perishable as a back-up for when s/he can't have what the rest of the class is eating. If the teacher gives you a hard time ( which I don't think they will, aside from thinking to themselves that you're a little nutty), remind them that they WOULD do the same for a no-peanut kid, or a Hindu kid, etc. Also inform them that the animal products can make your child quite ill- teachers and schools will take that seriously because of the magic word- lawsuit. annsfarm4444 <catlady4444@ verizon.net> @gro ups.com Saturday, September 6, 2008 12:12:53 PM Commercial foods with hidden animal products My 5 year old just started Kindergarten, and was given rice krispie treats as a snack. The teacher had no idea there are animal products in there. Is there a list somewhere I can give them of commercial foods with " hidden " animal products? Thanks, Ann Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 9, 2008 Report Share Posted September 9, 2008 , Jillene Wenzel <jillben2008 wrote: > > They offer chef salads at my kids' school, but with the meat on the side. One lunch lady used to tell my older daughter that she need to " get her protein " , but then another one informed her that she is a vegetarian and she did stop. But many definitely don't get it. > > Their school has started a " healthy " lunch/snack program. It's funny really. Almost makes me feel like we are health nuts. > > Jill > The only thing that my daughter would ask..and it came to my mind also is..Do the lunch ladies who prepare the food change their gloves after they touch the meat and before they touch the salad? When I get Subway for the family for *Dad has the day off* dinner, I make the workers change their gloves and assemble CHelsea`s veggie delight first. Sometimes I get a look but I do not care. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 9, 2008 Report Share Posted September 9, 2008 TRY SEWWT AND SARAHS VEGAN MRSHMELLOWS AND TREATS YUUUUUUMMMMMM --- On Sun, 9/7/08, Gayle <dilemma5 wrote: Gayle <dilemma5 Re: Commercial foods with hidden animal products Sunday, September 7, 2008, 1:57 PM Marilyn, The rice crispie treats we saw at Sweet Bay (mainstream grocery store) in the health food section are vegan. I let my kids try them and they complained they were too sweet (Yeah!). I tried one also and didn't think they were that good but other folks might think differently. They were *very* expensive for what they are so I'm really glad my kids didn't really like them. But, they are vegan in case anyone wants to try them. My kids are prone to leaving empty boxes in the pantry when they finish something off. I just looked to see if they left this one so I could give the name and ingredients, but I guess they're finally listening to me. Heck of a time to listen to me, right? ) God's Peace, Gayle - sahmomof8 (AT) aol (DOT) com @gro ups.com Saturday, September 06, 2008 5:42 PM Re: Commercial foods with hidden animal products I'm not at ALL surprised about the rice krispie treats--at 10AM or anytime. That's tame compared to some of the garbage kids are given in school on a daily basis! That was one major factor in our decision to homeschool! For a couple of years, I sent in substitute treats, and the teachers gave them to my kids instead of whatever crap they were selling, or using as rewards (ick). The teachers probably thought I was a fanatic, and at the time I was just doing Feingold--not even that out of the mainstream as far as food goes. Add " vegan " to that? Oh my! That was also one reason we gave up on sending our kids to VBS. They made a different, sickening " treat " each and every day, and I got tired trying to run out to Whole Foods to buy all natural soy chocolate pudding and gummy worms at 9AM and get them back there for the project! That being said--I actually did see all natural rice krispie treats in Whole Foods this past week. I didn't read the label to see if they were vegan because I wasn't buying them. But I HAVE seen vegan rice krispie treats in a local health food store, so maybe these are vegan too. It's worth a look. I have found equivalents for just about every sickening item the schools can throw at my kids. And if not, they are fine with an alternative, or with handing it over to me afterwards and " trading " for a healthier treat from the stash I keep on hand for them. It can be done. Marilyn ************ **Psssst. ..Have you heard the news? There's a new fashion blog, plus the latest fall trends and hair styles at StyleList.com. (http://www.stylelis t.com/trends? ncid=aolsty00050 000000014) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 9, 2008 Report Share Posted September 9, 2008 This reminded me of two things. Firstly, if you haven't ever seen 'Jamie's school lunch project " (BBC America, Discovery channel? I can't remember ), check it out. It's about Jamie Oliver's (Britain's celebrity chef) effort to single-handedly change the way Great Britain feeds its children at school- which seems even worse than the crap we feed our kids, if possible. Jamie's no vegetarian, but is big on fresh, fresh, fresh, organic food. And his transformations of the menus-and the way the fish-and-chips crowd saw them -was nothing short of miraculous. I think that those in-the-know would try to convince us that the crappy food is the only kind that can be afforded with limited school lunch budgets, but he proved that it can be done- sometimes more cheaply. Secondly, I feel your pain in the cafeteria. As i've found out over the past two weeks taking my kindergartner to school, all cafeterias have the same sickening smell, which I like to call 'Eau de Flesh'. I used to hate even walking my classes in there during lunch, and hot-footed it out of there asap. Cheers to you for not encouraging them to drink their milk, or eat their 'protein'! Perhaps someday we can change the way kids are fed at school- but it sure seems like a huge task given the bureaucracy involved. Cassie Dixon <roxy87cabriolet Monday, September 8, 2008 8:20:42 PM Re: Commercial foods with hidden animal products I am a teacher, and truly can't believe some of the professionals I hear about. I have lunch duty this week, so I am in the cafeteria as the students eat a meat-ladden meal I have been contemplating all weekend whether I should switch duty and be on the recess field in the heat, or watch the students eat the worst things they could. I decided to suck it up, but now I am wondering if there is a way to encourage the kids to eat those carrot sticks or salty, watery green beans that are over cooked. I mean, pizza sounded good to me, as well, until I saw it. Yuck! A few of the girls took a salad, but only 1 of them ate it. I am not encouraging the students to drink their milk. I am not encouraging them to not drink their milk... Is that how it works? Cassie --- On Mon, 9/8/08, Lebasi <lebasi.klotko@ > wrote: Lebasi <lebasi.klotko@ > Re: Commercial foods with hidden animal products @gro ups.com Monday, September 8, 2008, 9:09 AM I have had this in many of my sons classes the funny part is that my son will not eat it and does not regard it as a prize. on the first day of class I packed him Almonds for snack but the teacher told the class she was providing snack. Chocolate chip cookies and oreos. My son protested. She could not understand this. She told him he was allowed to have it and that it was ok. Grant responded it was loaded with sugar and bad for him. Plus he didnt like them. We have always taught him about nutritional and what is in the food he eats. He made these decisions for himsel as I do eat cookies and candy and have never told him not to, we just tell him what is in it and how it effects his body. --- On Sat, 9/6/08, Gayle <dilemma5@earthlink . net> wrote: Gayle <dilemma5@earthlink . net> Re: Commercial foods with hidden animal products @gro ups.com Saturday, September 6, 2008, 5:54 PM I wouldn't be so stunned, Jenni. Where I'm a teacher, I'm the only one who doesn't give out candy as rewards and smacks. The other teachers on my team all have large jars of candy that they hand out when a child brings in homework or does what he or she is supposed to do. I understand and believe in the effects of positive reinforcement when a student does as he or she is supposed to do or for exceptional behavior, however I don't give out candy or sweets of any kind. I always got upset when teachers did that with my kids and I won't do it to other's kids. Some of the teachers realized the effects of the sugars and the dyes so would give the " treats " to the kids and tell them they could eat them when school was out so that the parents got the effects rather than the teachers. I really disliked that. I tell my students on the first day of school not to expect candy and other sweets from me as treats. They can earn extra recess time, free homework passes, being teacher's helper for the day, lunch with the teacher, so on and so forth. I do keep wasabi peas (yes, some of the students LOVE those), pumpkin seeds, peanuts (when I am sure I have no one allergic to nuts in my class), carrots, and other healthy food treats such as these to use as edible rewards. The students seem to like these types of rewards more than the candy sort. God's Peace, Gayle - jenni claire garverick @gro ups.com Saturday, September 06, 2008 3:35 PM Re: Commercial foods with hidden animal products I am stunned that a teacher would give kids rice krispy treats as a 'snack'! I would have a discussion with that teacher re: this immediately. If that doesn't get you anywhere, go to the principal. Teachers are educated enough to know that stuffing kids full of sugar at 10 am will do nothing for their thought processes- and may harm them. I am saying this as a former public school teacher- and someone who is not 'over the top' when it comes to never giving kids sugar, etc. I just hate to think of my kids being fed that stuff so early in the morning-and as a matter of habit. Someone else may be able to direct you towards a list of foods that are not veg or vegan friendly- but it seems to me the teacher may be better off with a list of raw ingredients since a list of commercial foods would be impossible to keep up with. S/he may look askance at you about having to read labels, but they would do the same-quite willingly and without a thought- if a kid had, say, a peanut allergy. Your kid deserves the same respect. I have a child who has started Kindergarten this year, and I plan to do the same. We aren't vegan, but I certainly don't want her eating gelatin, broth, etc- things that the meat eating population probably doesn't consider an 'animal' product. As a back-up, I'd send a box of something non-perishable as a back-up for when s/he can't have what the rest of the class is eating. If the teacher gives you a hard time ( which I don't think they will, aside from thinking to themselves that you're a little nutty), remind them that they WOULD do the same for a no-peanut kid, or a Hindu kid, etc. Also inform them that the animal products can make your child quite ill- teachers and schools will take that seriously because of the magic word- lawsuit. annsfarm4444 <catlady4444@ verizon.net> @gro ups.com Saturday, September 6, 2008 12:12:53 PM Commercial foods with hidden animal products My 5 year old just started Kindergarten, and was given rice krispie treats as a snack. The teacher had no idea there are animal products in there. Is there a list somewhere I can give them of commercial foods with " hidden " animal products? Thanks, Ann Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 10, 2008 Report Share Posted September 10, 2008 Thanks Cassie---this is great! > Cassie Dixon <roxy87cabriolet > > Sunday, September 7, 2008 1:14:12 PM > Re: Hidden meat products > > > I compiled a list for my daughter's pre-school.. . > Foods Lily can NOT have: > Jello-specifically gelatin > marshmallows > red food coloring > pudding > frosting > white sugar > skittles > starbursts > gummi bears > gummi worms > SweetHearts > jelled fruit slices > slow-melting popscicles > chickenbroth > turkey > fish > shellfish > chicken > pork > beef > steak > sausages > hot dogs > ham > salami > roast beef > cow's milk > lard > frozen pie crusts > fast food french fries > rennet (in some cheese) > Casein (in most cheese) > whey > sour cream > dips > cesar salad dressing > > I hope this helps! > Cassie > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 10, 2008 Report Share Posted September 10, 2008 , paula berman <paulagb123 wrote: > > TRY SEWWT AND SARAHS VEGAN MRSHMELLOWS AND TREATS YUUUUUUMMMMMM > > --- On Sun, 9/7/08, Gayle <dilemma5 wrote: > I am writing all these treats down and appreciate all the ideas. Chelsea gets happy when I find something that she can eat. I love to bake but not really in the mood to do it all the time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 11, 2008 Report Share Posted September 11, 2008 I am going to try and find the show you suggested. I just received my TeachKind packet. Hopefully I can help my own students " think " about what they are putting into their mouths. Thanks for relating. The county is building a middle school directly behind our elementary school, and they must have found something dead and rotting, as it smelled just awful! The kids kept asking what the terrible smell was, and I replied " dead animals " . later 2 boys told me they were " meatatarians " and I reminded them of the smell outside, and how it was rotting dead animals. I then asked them what happened to the meat they ate, was it rotting in their stomachs and making the awful smell inside their bellies? They looked up at me with steam coming from their ears- thinking way too hard! LOL Cassie --- On Tue, 9/9/08, jenni claire garverick <jennigarverick wrote: > jenni claire garverick <jennigarverick > Re: Commercial foods with hidden animal products > > Tuesday, September 9, 2008, 3:33 PM > This reminded me of two things. Firstly, if you haven't > ever seen 'Jamie's school lunch project " (BBC > America, Discovery channel? I can't remember ), check it > out. It's about Jamie Oliver's (Britain's > celebrity chef) effort to single-handedly change the way > Great Britain feeds its children at school- which seems even > worse than the crap we feed our kids, if possible. > Jamie's no vegetarian, but is big on fresh, fresh, > fresh, organic food. And his transformations of the > menus-and the way the fish-and-chips crowd saw them -was > nothing short of miraculous. I think that those in-the-know > would try to convince us that the crappy food is the only > kind that can be afforded with limited school lunch budgets, > but he proved that it can be done- sometimes more cheaply. > Secondly, I feel your pain in the cafeteria. As i've > found out over the past two weeks taking my kindergartner to > school, all cafeterias have the same sickening smell, which > I like to call 'Eau de Flesh'. I used to hate even > walking my classes in there during lunch, and hot-footed it > out of there asap. Cheers to you for not encouraging them to > drink their milk, or eat their 'protein'! Perhaps > someday we can change the way kids are fed at school- but it > sure seems like a huge task given the bureaucracy involved. > > > > > Cassie Dixon <roxy87cabriolet > > Monday, September 8, 2008 8:20:42 PM > Re: Commercial foods with hidden > animal products > > > I am a teacher, and truly can't believe some of the > professionals I hear about. > I have lunch duty this week, so I am in the cafeteria as > the students eat a meat-ladden meal I have been > contemplating all weekend whether I should switch duty and > be on the recess field in the heat, or watch the students > eat the worst things they could. I decided to suck it up, > but now I am wondering if there is a way to encourage the > kids to eat those carrot sticks or salty, watery green beans > that are over cooked. I mean, pizza sounded good to me, as > well, until I saw it. Yuck! A few of the girls took a > salad, but only 1 of them ate it. > I am not encouraging the students to drink their milk. I > am not encouraging them to not drink their milk... Is that > how it works? > > Cassie > > --- On Mon, 9/8/08, Lebasi <lebasi.klotko@ > > wrote: > Lebasi <lebasi.klotko@ > > Re: Commercial foods with hidden > animal products > @gro ups.com > Monday, September 8, 2008, 9:09 AM > > I have had this in many of my sons classes the funny part > is that my son will not eat it and does not regard it as a > prize. > > on the first day of class I packed him Almonds for snack > but the teacher told the class she was providing snack. > Chocolate chip cookies and oreos. My son protested. > > > > She could not understand this. She told him he was allowed > to have it and that it was ok. > > Grant responded it was loaded with sugar and bad for him. > Plus he didnt like them. > > We have always taught him about nutritional and what is in > the food he eats. He made these decisions for himsel as I do > eat cookies and candy and have never told him not to, we > just tell him what is in it and how it effects his body. > > --- On Sat, 9/6/08, Gayle <dilemma5@earthlink . net> > wrote: > > Gayle <dilemma5@earthlink . net> > > Re: Commercial foods with hidden > animal products > > @gro ups.com > > Saturday, September 6, 2008, 5:54 PM > > I wouldn't be so stunned, Jenni. Where I'm a > teacher, I'm the only one who doesn't give out candy > as rewards and smacks. The other teachers on my team all > have large jars of candy that they hand out when a child > brings in homework or does what he or she is supposed to do. > I understand and believe in the effects of positive > reinforcement when a student does as he or she is supposed > to do or for exceptional behavior, however I don't give > out candy or sweets of any kind. I always got upset when > teachers did that with my kids and I won't do it to > other's kids. Some of the teachers realized the effects > of the sugars and the dyes so would give the > " treats " to the kids and tell them they could eat > them when school was out so that the parents got the effects > rather than the teachers. I really disliked that. I tell my > students on the first day of school not to expect candy and > other sweets from me as treats. They can earn extra recess > time, free homework passes, > > being teacher's helper for the day, lunch with the > teacher, so on and so forth. I do keep wasabi peas (yes, > some of the students LOVE those), pumpkin seeds, peanuts > (when I am sure I have no one allergic to nuts in my class), > carrots, and other healthy food treats such as these to use > as edible rewards. The students seem to like these types of > rewards more than the candy sort. > > God's Peace, > > Gayle > > - > > jenni claire garverick > > @gro ups.com > > Saturday, September 06, 2008 3:35 PM > > Re: Commercial foods with hidden > animal products > > I am stunned that a teacher would give kids rice krispy > treats as a 'snack'! I would have a discussion with > that teacher re: this immediately. If that doesn't get > you anywhere, go to the principal. Teachers are educated > enough to know that stuffing kids full of sugar at 10 am > will do nothing for their thought processes- and may harm > them. I am saying this as a former public school teacher- > and someone who is not 'over the top' when it comes > to never giving kids sugar, etc. I just hate to think of my > kids being fed that stuff so early in the morning-and as a > matter of habit. > > Someone else may be able to direct you towards a list of > foods that are not veg or vegan friendly- but it seems to me > the teacher may be better off with a list of raw ingredients > since a list of commercial foods would be impossible to keep > up with. S/he may look askance at you about having to read > labels, but they would do the same-quite willingly and > without a thought- if a kid had, say, a peanut allergy. Your > kid deserves the same respect. I have a child who has > started Kindergarten this year, and I plan to do the same. > We aren't vegan, but I certainly don't want her > eating gelatin, broth, etc- things that the meat eating > population probably doesn't consider an 'animal' > product. As a back-up, I'd send a box of something > non-perishable as a back-up for when s/he can't have > what the rest of the class is eating. If the teacher gives > you a hard time ( which I don't think they will, aside > from thinking to themselves that you're a little nutty), > remind them > > that they WOULD do the same for a no-peanut kid, or a Hindu > kid, etc. Also inform them that the animal products can make > your child quite ill- teachers and schools will take that > seriously because of the magic word- lawsuit. > > > > annsfarm4444 <catlady4444@ verizon.net> > > @gro ups.com > > Saturday, September 6, 2008 12:12:53 PM > > Commercial foods with hidden animal > products > > My 5 year old just started Kindergarten, and was given rice > krispie > > treats as a snack. The teacher had no idea there are animal > products > > in there. Is there a list somewhere I can give them of > commercial > > foods with " hidden " animal products? > > Thanks, > > Ann > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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