Guest guest Posted October 16, 2008 Report Share Posted October 16, 2008 Hi - I'm new to the group and have been enjoying reading the posts. I've been vegetarian for over ten years. My son is now 10 months old (I also have a 10 yo stepdaughter), and I am wondering how you all approached moving on to milk. We do not have cow's milk in the house (although we have compromised and have cheese in the fridge instead of a perpetual battle with the older child - this is the only animal- based product we have). I had been nursing him and would like to have continued past the first year, but unfortunately due to factors out of my control, he has just recently weaned. We are giving him a soy-based formula (Earth's Best). I am wondering if/how/when you transitioned to milk - not formula - from a cup as well. My doctor mentioned this to me at our 9 month checkup and I said we were avoiding cow's milk, but she didn't have any other suggestions. Are soy and rice milks good choices for this age? Nutritionally, would it be better to go with a nut (almond) milk? I'm trying very hard to provide all the fats and nutrients that he needs, but I haven't found much about what kind of milk to give him, or in what quantity. Incidentally, he is a good eater. He loves chickpeas, plain soy yogurt with wheat germ, avocados (when we can find them), will eat steamed and pureed kale and chard, and we give him portions of our family meals when appropriate and not too spicy. I'm trying to give him variety as best I can. Any suggestions for milk and also other baby/toddler foods would be greatly appreciated. Sara Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 16, 2008 Report Share Posted October 16, 2008 Soy, hemp, rice or oat milks should be fine. You might want to avoid nut milks for allergy reasons (no peanut/tree nuts till at least 2-3 or so depending on your Dr's reccomendation, we were OK'd at a year for peanutbutter, but we had no similar allergies in the family, they've since changed their rec's). Hemp milk is one of the best, we never had it till fairly recently. We otherwise did soy and rice milk. I made my own oak milk and rice milk but I did not like how they came out. When we started using a cup, we used a shot glass, like they do in the Montessori schools for that age group (we also attended a class for fun, too). Just start with a little water (maybe half full) just for fun, like something different to do with your son during the day. You can eventually switch to " milk " in it, as they do get the idea pretty fast. Nothing fancy, just a shot glass. We even picked them up sometimes on vacation - for him to use when we were out if we forgot. Until he eventually figured out straws (took him a while, as I think he was 22mo's old when he got that figured out, I think, it's been a while so I forget now exactly) hope that helps. missie On Thu, Oct 16, 2008 at 10:42 AM, sazra73 <sazra73 wrote: > Hi - > > I'm new to the group and have been enjoying reading the posts. I've > been vegetarian for over ten years. My son is now 10 months old (I > also have a 10 yo stepdaughter), and I am wondering how you all > approached moving on to milk. We do not have cow's milk in the house > (although we have compromised and have cheese in the fridge instead > of a perpetual battle with the older child - this is the only animal- > based product we have). > > I had been nursing him and would like to have continued past the > first year, but unfortunately due to factors out of my control, he > has just recently weaned. We are giving him a soy-based formula > (Earth's Best). I am wondering if/how/when you transitioned to milk - > not formula - from a cup as well. My doctor mentioned this to me at > our 9 month checkup and I said we were avoiding cow's milk, but she > didn't have any other suggestions. > > Are soy and rice milks good choices for this age? Nutritionally, > would it be better to go with a nut (almond) milk? I'm trying very > hard to provide all the fats and nutrients that he needs, but I > haven't found much about what kind of milk to give him, or in what > quantity. > > Incidentally, he is a good eater. He loves chickpeas, plain soy > yogurt with wheat germ, avocados (when we can find them), will eat > steamed and pureed kale and chard, and we give him portions of our > family meals when appropriate and not too spicy. I'm trying to give > him variety as best I can. > > Any suggestions for milk and also other baby/toddler foods would be > greatly appreciated. > > Sara > > -- http://mszzzi.zoomshare.com http://www.flickr.com/photos/mszzzi/ ~~~~~(m-.-)m Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 17, 2008 Report Share Posted October 17, 2008 My 2 y.o. daughter has no qualms with rice or almond milk. She is the only one who really drinks it, so I buy one 1/2 gallon of each and then alternate days or mix the two in her cereal. She only drinks water throughout the day with 1 glass a day with a splash of oj or cran juice. It sounds to me that you are providing plenty of good options for your son. Best of luck! Cassie " life's a garden, dig it! " Sent from my iPhone On Oct 16, 2008, at 11:42 AM, " sazra73 " <sazra73 wrote: Hi - I'm new to the group and have been enjoying reading the posts. I've been vegetarian for over ten years. My son is now 10 months old (I also have a 10 yo stepdaughter), and I am wondering how you all approached moving on to milk. We do not have cow's milk in the house (although we have compromised and have cheese in the fridge instead of a perpetual battle with the older child - this is the only animal- based product we have). I had been nursing him and would like to have continued past the first year, but unfortunately due to factors out of my control, he has just recently weaned. We are giving him a soy-based formula (Earth's Best). I am wondering if/how/when you transitioned to milk - not formula - from a cup as well. My doctor mentioned this to me at our 9 month checkup and I said we were avoiding cow's milk, but she didn't have any other suggestions. Are soy and rice milks good choices for this age? Nutritionally, would it be better to go with a nut (almond) milk? I'm trying very hard to provide all the fats and nutrients that he needs, but I haven't found much about what kind of milk to give him, or in what quantity. Incidentally, he is a good eater. He loves chickpeas, plain soy yogurt with wheat germ, avocados (when we can find them), will eat steamed and pureed kale and chard, and we give him portions of our family meals when appropriate and not too spicy. I'm trying to give him variety as best I can. Any suggestions for milk and also other baby/toddler foods would be greatly appreciated. Sara Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 17, 2008 Report Share Posted October 17, 2008 I was recommended by family doctor to use soymilk until age two or three due to higher levels of fat and infants requiring more fats for development. But do not have any research to recommend this to you. Good luck! Laura sazra73 <sazra73 Thursday, October 16, 2008 11:42:45 AM Milk for baby Hi - I'm new to the group and have been enjoying reading the posts. I've been vegetarian for over ten years. My son is now 10 months old (I also have a 10 yo stepdaughter) , and I am wondering how you all approached moving on to milk. We do not have cow's milk in the house (although we have compromised and have cheese in the fridge instead of a perpetual battle with the older child - this is the only animal- based product we have). I had been nursing him and would like to have continued past the first year, but unfortunately due to factors out of my control, he has just recently weaned. We are giving him a soy-based formula (Earth's Best). I am wondering if/how/when you transitioned to milk - not formula - from a cup as well. My doctor mentioned this to me at our 9 month checkup and I said we were avoiding cow's milk, but she didn't have any other suggestions. Are soy and rice milks good choices for this age? Nutritionally, would it be better to go with a nut (almond) milk? I'm trying very hard to provide all the fats and nutrients that he needs, but I haven't found much about what kind of milk to give him, or in what quantity. Incidentally, he is a good eater. He loves chickpeas, plain soy yogurt with wheat germ, avocados (when we can find them), will eat steamed and pureed kale and chard, and we give him portions of our family meals when appropriate and not too spicy. I'm trying to give him variety as best I can. Any suggestions for milk and also other baby/toddler foods would be greatly appreciated. Sara Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 17, 2008 Report Share Posted October 17, 2008 Have you read " Disease-Proof Your Child: Feeding Kids Right " by Joel Furhman? I HIGHLY recommend it. He is a pediatrician that specializes in diet nutrition and he promotes a vegetarian diet for children. There is an entire chapter about weaning from breastmilk. Basically, he recommends " if not continuing to breastfeed until 18 months of age, use formula, not soy milk or cow's milk. Then after 18 months of age, it can be slowly decreased, as a mixture of soy and nut milk " . He doesn't recommend Soy Milk during the 12-18 months of age because it is too low in fat (which babies really need). And the Nut and Rice Milks are too sweet and low in protein and fat. Also these milks do not contain DHA which is a vital nutrient found in breastmilk and formulas After age 2, he believes Soy, Nut and Rice Milks are adequate for their nutritional needs. Of course, the book goes into much more detail. I myself, followed these recommendations and used the Earth's Best Formula (Toddler Version) from 12-18 months - then did half Formula, half Organic Cow's Milk from 18 mo - 2 years. Then Organic Cow's Milk after that. Hope this helps!!!! --- On Thu, 10/16/08, Laura Ballinger Morales <lballinger wrote: Laura Ballinger Morales <lballinger Re: Milk for baby Thursday, October 16, 2008, 8:04 PM I was recommended by family doctor to use soymilk until age two or three due to higher levels of fat and infants requiring more fats for development. But do not have any research to recommend this to you. Good luck! Laura sazra73 <sazra73 > @gro ups.com Thursday, October 16, 2008 11:42:45 AM Milk for baby Hi - I'm new to the group and have been enjoying reading the posts. I've been vegetarian for over ten years. My son is now 10 months old (I also have a 10 yo stepdaughter) , and I am wondering how you all approached moving on to milk. We do not have cow's milk in the house (although we have compromised and have cheese in the fridge instead of a perpetual battle with the older child - this is the only animal- based product we have). I had been nursing him and would like to have continued past the first year, but unfortunately due to factors out of my control, he has just recently weaned. We are giving him a soy-based formula (Earth's Best). I am wondering if/how/when you transitioned to milk - not formula - from a cup as well. My doctor mentioned this to me at our 9 month checkup and I said we were avoiding cow's milk, but she didn't have any other suggestions. Are soy and rice milks good choices for this age? Nutritionally, would it be better to go with a nut (almond) milk? I'm trying very hard to provide all the fats and nutrients that he needs, but I haven't found much about what kind of milk to give him, or in what quantity. Incidentally, he is a good eater. He loves chickpeas, plain soy yogurt with wheat germ, avocados (when we can find them), will eat steamed and pureed kale and chard, and we give him portions of our family meals when appropriate and not too spicy. I'm trying to give him variety as best I can. Any suggestions for milk and also other baby/toddler foods would be greatly appreciated. Sara Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 17, 2008 Report Share Posted October 17, 2008 My daughter moved onto almond milk around ago 1yo and then soymilk a few months later to get more fat into her diet. She was doing very well with soft baby foods by then so the milk a smaller part of her diet. She is 2 now. I would say to look at her diet as a whole, rather than concentrating on just the type of milk. But there is no need to have to rely on cow's milk. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 17, 2008 Report Share Posted October 17, 2008 I don't think plain rice, soy, or almond are good at 10 months as they do not contain enough fat etc. In fact some doctors are recommending homo milk until 3 or 4. That seems too much to me. What I did when my boys weaned themselves at a year (I wanted to go longer but they stopped) was to make a bottle using soya milk instead of water and half the amount of soy formula. I did the calculation and it with that combination it gave the same " nutrients " as formula plus water. Anyway, I was able to slowly decrease the formula amount as the boys grew older until they were with all soya milk. Of course they were a year when they weaned so it's a different situation. You need to do what you think is best your son. I also gave them the bottle cold (way easier!!). Good luck, Paula + DS 5 and DS 3 , " sazra73 " <sazra73 wrote: > > Hi - > > I'm new to the group and have been enjoying reading the posts. I've > been vegetarian for over ten years. My son is now 10 months old (I > also have a 10 yo stepdaughter), and I am wondering how you all > approached moving on to milk. We do not have cow's milk in the house > (although we have compromised and have cheese in the fridge instead > of a perpetual battle with the older child - this is the only animal- > based product we have). > > I had been nursing him and would like to have continued past the > first year, but unfortunately due to factors out of my control, he > has just recently weaned. We are giving him a soy-based formula > (Earth's Best). I am wondering if/how/when you transitioned to milk - > not formula - from a cup as well. My doctor mentioned this to me at > our 9 month checkup and I said we were avoiding cow's milk, but she > didn't have any other suggestions. > > Are soy and rice milks good choices for this age? Nutritionally, > would it be better to go with a nut (almond) milk? I'm trying very > hard to provide all the fats and nutrients that he needs, but I > haven't found much about what kind of milk to give him, or in what > quantity. > > Incidentally, he is a good eater. He loves chickpeas, plain soy > yogurt with wheat germ, avocados (when we can find them), will eat > steamed and pureed kale and chard, and we give him portions of our > family meals when appropriate and not too spicy. I'm trying to give > him variety as best I can. > > Any suggestions for milk and also other baby/toddler foods would be > greatly appreciated. > > Sara > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 17, 2008 Report Share Posted October 17, 2008 To clarify - we never did cow milk, as our son has a milk protein allergy, and he still has it (if he has anything that was remotely made by/with milk, he will have a reaction). We added extra oils (canola and olive oil, ground flax seeds) to his veggies, bread/pasta and soy yogurt. He got plenty of fats. We just made up for it elsewhere. We did not have a choice in any kind of cow milk, or goat milk, sheep's milk (we were asked by others, we tried and they all had the same reaction in our son - from whelts, to rashes to severe and extreme mood/behavior issues). It is possible to not rely on cow milk or other dairy products for nutrition. You just have to make up for whatever might be lacking, but you do have to know what makes up a healthy diet. As a baby, we used the guidelines in the Super Baby Food book by Ruth Yaron. We now follow more of the Canadian Food guide (it focuses more on veggies/fruits as the main thing to eat rather than grains like the SAD diet recommendations) and they say " eat more lentils and tofu as a general guide under " meat and alternatives " They also recommend soymilk if you can't drink animal milks. Anyway - this made more sense to me, and my husband when i showed it to him (he commented on how it focused more on veggies rather than grains like the US one does). here's a link in case anyone else wants to see (they also have a cool 'make my own guide' that you can do, or just print the full one (which is what we did). http://www.hc-sc.gc.ca/fn-an/food-guide-aliment/index-eng.php Hope that also helps. Missie On Thu, Oct 16, 2008 at 5:35 PM, Missie <mszzzi wrote: > Soy, hemp, rice or oat milks should be fine. You might want to avoid > nut milks for allergy reasons (no peanut/tree nuts till at least 2-3 > or so depending on your Dr's reccomendation, we were OK'd at a year > for peanutbutter, but we had no similar allergies in the family, > they've since changed their rec's). > > Hemp milk is one of the best, we never had it till fairly recently. We > otherwise did soy and rice milk. I made my own oak milk and rice milk > but I did not like how they came out. > > When we started using a cup, we used a shot glass, like they do in the > Montessori schools for that age group (we also attended a class for > fun, too). Just start with a little water (maybe half full) just for > fun, like something different to do with your son during the day. You > can eventually switch to " milk " in it, as they do get the idea pretty > fast. Nothing fancy, just a shot glass. We even picked them up > sometimes on vacation - for him to use when we were out if we forgot. > Until he eventually figured out straws (took him a while, as I think > he was 22mo's old when he got that figured out, I think, it's been a > while so I forget now exactly) > > hope that helps. > missie > > On Thu, Oct 16, 2008 at 10:42 AM, sazra73 <sazra73 wrote: >> Hi - >> >> I'm new to the group and have been enjoying reading the posts. I've >> been vegetarian for over ten years. My son is now 10 months old (I >> also have a 10 yo stepdaughter), and I am wondering how you all >> approached moving on to milk. We do not have cow's milk in the house >> (although we have compromised and have cheese in the fridge instead >> of a perpetual battle with the older child - this is the only animal- >> based product we have). >> >> I had been nursing him and would like to have continued past the >> first year, but unfortunately due to factors out of my control, he >> has just recently weaned. We are giving him a soy-based formula >> (Earth's Best). I am wondering if/how/when you transitioned to milk - >> not formula - from a cup as well. My doctor mentioned this to me at >> our 9 month checkup and I said we were avoiding cow's milk, but she >> didn't have any other suggestions. >> >> Are soy and rice milks good choices for this age? Nutritionally, >> would it be better to go with a nut (almond) milk? I'm trying very >> hard to provide all the fats and nutrients that he needs, but I >> haven't found much about what kind of milk to give him, or in what >> quantity. >> >> Incidentally, he is a good eater. He loves chickpeas, plain soy >> yogurt with wheat germ, avocados (when we can find them), will eat >> steamed and pureed kale and chard, and we give him portions of our >> family meals when appropriate and not too spicy. I'm trying to give >> him variety as best I can. >> >> Any suggestions for milk and also other baby/toddler foods would be >> greatly appreciated. >> >> Sara >> >> > > > > -- > > http://mszzzi.zoomshare.com > http://www.flickr.com/photos/mszzzi/ > > ~~~~~(m-.-)m > -- http://mszzzi.zoomshare.com http://www.flickr.com/photos/mszzzi/ ~~~~~(m-.-)m Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 18, 2008 Report Share Posted October 18, 2008 Hi! Thank you all for the input on formula and milk. Most likely we will continue with the formula until he is 18 months, but start adding fortified soy milk in a cup once a day. He drinks water from a cup now. He's not too keen on juice in his water, and I want him to develop a taste for water, so I add juice to his cereal instead. I'm so excited to be starting him off in a healthy diet that is compassionate and conscientious as well. There's so much more variety and taste! I listened quietly (but mildly horrified) as an acquaintance told me about giving her son buttered toast and Cheetos while she fed him chicken nuggets from McDonalds. My son had porridge made with millet, brown rice and barley with a little yogurt for breakfast, lima beans as a snack, and butternut squash and baby hummus for lunch. What a difference. Sara Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 19, 2008 Report Share Posted October 19, 2008 Hi Sara, I think you are doing great regarding to your son diet. I just would like to say that I read the book " Disease-Proof your Child " from Dr. Joel Fuhrman. I highly recommend it to you. Well according to him ifyou can not breastfeed until your son is 18 month (at least) try to give him formula (because of the DHA and other nutrients) Good luck Oh one question: How do you do your pureed kale and chard? Thanks --- On Thu, 10/16/08, sazra73 <sazra73 wrote: sazra73 <sazra73 Milk for baby Thursday, October 16, 2008, 10:42 AM Hi - I'm new to the group and have been enjoying reading the posts. I've been vegetarian for over ten years. My son is now 10 months old (I also have a 10 yo stepdaughter) , and I am wondering how you all approached moving on to milk. We do not have cow's milk in the house (although we have compromised and have cheese in the fridge instead of a perpetual battle with the older child - this is the only animal- based product we have). I had been nursing him and would like to have continued past the first year, but unfortunately due to factors out of my control, he has just recently weaned. We are giving him a soy-based formula (Earth's Best). I am wondering if/how/when you transitioned to milk - not formula - from a cup as well. My doctor mentioned this to me at our 9 month checkup and I said we were avoiding cow's milk, but she didn't have any other suggestions. Are soy and rice milks good choices for this age? Nutritionally, would it be better to go with a nut (almond) milk? I'm trying very hard to provide all the fats and nutrients that he needs, but I haven't found much about what kind of milk to give him, or in what quantity. Incidentally, he is a good eater. He loves chickpeas, plain soy yogurt with wheat germ, avocados (when we can find them), will eat steamed and pureed kale and chard, and we give him portions of our family meals when appropriate and not too spicy. I'm trying to give him variety as best I can. Any suggestions for milk and also other baby/toddler foods would be greatly appreciated. Sara Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 20, 2008 Report Share Posted October 20, 2008 Just out of curiosity, have you tried pumping and giving him breastmilk in a bottle? My daughter weaned herself from nursing during the day but would still drink breastmilk from a bottle. It was a pain at first to pump and put it in a bottle at every feeding, but as she's gotten older it's been easier. If this doesn't work, formula is definitely the way to go. > --- On Thu, 10/16/08, sazra73 <sazra73 wrote: > sazra73 <sazra73 > Milk for baby > > Thursday, October 16, 2008, 10:42 AM > > > > > Hi - > > > > I'm new to the group and have been enjoying reading the posts. I've > > been vegetarian for over ten years. My son is now 10 months old (I > > also have a 10 yo stepdaughter) , and I am wondering how you all > > approached moving on to milk. We do not have cow's milk in the house > > (although we have compromised and have cheese in the fridge instead > > of a perpetual battle with the older child - this is the only animal- > > based product we have). > > > > I had been nursing him and would like to have continued past the > > first year, but unfortunately due to factors out of my control, he > > has just recently weaned. We are giving him a soy-based formula > > (Earth's Best). I am wondering if/how/when you transitioned to milk - > > not formula - from a cup as well. My doctor mentioned this to me at > > our 9 month checkup and I said we were avoiding cow's milk, but she > > didn't have any other suggestions. > > > > Are soy and rice milks good choices for this age? Nutritionally, > > would it be better to go with a nut (almond) milk? I'm trying very > > hard to provide all the fats and nutrients that he needs, but I > > haven't found much about what kind of milk to give him, or in what > > quantity. > > > > Incidentally, he is a good eater. He loves chickpeas, plain soy > > yogurt with wheat germ, avocados (when we can find them), will eat > > steamed and pureed kale and chard, and we give him portions of our > > family meals when appropriate and not too spicy. I'm trying to give > > him variety as best I can. > > > > Any suggestions for milk and also other baby/toddler foods would be > > greatly appreciated. > > > > Sara > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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