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Dear Friends,

 

I was given a handbag as a present for the holidays. I have been a

vegetarian for the last 30 plus years and have not purchased leather and since

11

have always been leather free.

 

Whenever I first get to know someone, I always let them know in a firm but

friendly way that I am vegetarian for ethical and not health reasons, and that

I buy cruelty free, environmentally sustainable etc.

 

So I was surprised/shocked to get a Barbour handbag with leather straps. I

know this is an expensive present and very nice thougth. I am not sure how to

address the giver. I want to thank this person, but how can I make sure I

never get anything with leather again? The person is my brother's girlfriend

soon to be fiance, and so I need to handle this delicately. This person is

sensitive to criticism.

 

How have you dealt with a similar situation?

 

best

Chana

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for now, just say thank you. i would find a place to hide it, and wouldn't use

it. but in a delicate situation, wouldn't want to upset the cart or anything.

maybe i should be more confrontational. but some people stress so much about

presents, that she might not take any criticism well. good luck! it's tough

getting new people into your circle.

cheers!

Janeen :)

 

--- On Fri, 12/26/08, crkotzin <crkotzin wrote:

 

crkotzin <crkotzin

Re: How to deal with a leather present

 

Friday, December 26, 2008, 10:23 PM

 

 

 

 

 

 

Dear Friends,

 

I was given a handbag as a present for the holidays. I have been a

vegetarian for the last 30 plus years and have not purchased leather and since

11

have always been leather free.

 

Whenever I first get to know someone, I always let them know in a firm but

friendly way that I am vegetarian for ethical and not health reasons, and that

I buy cruelty free, environmentally sustainable etc.

 

So I was surprised/shocked to get a Barbour handbag with leather straps. I

know this is an expensive present and very nice thougth. I am not sure how to

address the giver. I want to thank this person, but how can I make sure I

never get anything with leather again? The person is my brother's girlfriend

soon to be fiance, and so I need to handle this delicately. This person is

sensitive to criticism.

 

How have you dealt with a similar situation?

 

best

Chana

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Hi Chana,

 

If it were me, I would politely thank her and tell her that you

absolutely love the handbag, with the exception of the leather straps. I

would nicely explain tha tusing leater is against our ethics and would

she mind if you returned it for a similar bag that didn't have any

leather on it? This way she will know your ethical preference, it

shouldn't ever happen again, and you don't end up with a useless gift

that contributed to death and it ends up sitting in your closet. Then

I'd return it and find another handbag (since that's what she wanted you

to have), but one that is vegan. And show it to her when you buy it.

Most likely it was completely innocent. Most people are not into these

isssues don't even realize the leather straps. But all the same, I would

gently handle the situation and then just move on.

 

Jacqueline

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This is a sticky issue, but one I have handled in the past by

thanking the person for their thoughtful gift, and then either

returning/exchanging it, regifting it to someone who would enjoy the

item and isn't vegetarian, or giving it to a thrift shop. Having been

vegetarian for almost 40 years, I have experienced many instances

where caring and thoughtful friends and family seem to think " just a

little " is okay (i.e. leather straps,not the whole bag, beef or

chicken stock in a veggie soup, just a little cheese. etc). No matter

how many gentle or firm reminders I have given, these incidents still

occur. I think people don't get it because it is so outside of their

reality.

 

If you thank your brother's girlfriend, and later she asks about the

bag you can thank her for her thought, and explain that due to you

convictions you don't use leather, so you exchanged or shared the

gift. Often a thank you note suffices and you'll never have the

follow up conversation to deal with. If you are close to your brother

you might remind him at next gift giving time of your choices and ask

that he remind his girlfriend. Or you can ask family to give to a

cause you care about rather than buying you a gift you might not be

able to use.

 

I have also tried to remember that giving is something to be

appreciated even when it is something I would never use (sometimes

for other reasons than my vegetarianism).

 

Good luck and hope this works out without any hard feelings.

 

Bea

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My hubby, who's been veggie for 14+ yrs had this to say:

 

Personally, if that happened to me, I would sell the gift on EBay and then

donate that money to an animal rights organization. The purse was already

made, you can't bring the poor animal back. This way the pre-fiance won't

be offended with this year's present. Next christmas, maybe she/you

could ask the brother to mention that non-leather/dead animal presents are

preferred. The brother doesn't have to mention anything about last year's

gift.

 

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-Hi Chana!

 

I agree with Jacqueline, there is always a tactful way to let someone

know that leather was once a defenseless cow. I have many friends who

have always known we are vegan, but don't always make the connection

with many things animal, such as leather purses, belts, wallets, shoes,

etc. I myself also know of a few vegetarians who do still buy leather

products, since there seem to be many different degrees of animal

awareness. I definitely wouldn't " let it go " & say nothing, as it could

very well lead to many other leather gifts down the road, especially if

you tell her how much you loved the purse. I myself use any opportunity

to spread awareness & compassion whenever I'm able. You never know, you

may very well be the one who sends her on her own vegan/vegetarian

journey.......Best of luck! :)

 

 

, " Jacqueline Bodnar " <jb wrote:

>

>

>

> Hi Chana,

>

> If it were me, I would politely thank her and tell her that you

> absolutely love the handbag, with the exception of the leather straps.

I

> would nicely explain tha tusing leater is against our ethics and would

> she mind if you returned it for a similar bag that didn't have any

> leather on it? This way she will know your ethical preference, it

> shouldn't ever happen again, and you don't end up with a useless gift

> that contributed to death and it ends up sitting in your closet. Then

> I'd return it and find another handbag (since that's what she wanted

you

> to have), but one that is vegan. And show it to her when you buy it.

> Most likely it was completely innocent. Most people are not into these

> isssues don't even realize the leather straps. But all the same, I

would

> gently handle the situation and then just move on.

>

> Jacqueline

>

 

 

 

 

 

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yes, i guess you guys are right. i might retract my idea. sorry. i just am in

the middle of crazy stuff with my new in-law so had that in mind too.

 

--- On Sun, 12/28/08, kimberlyire <kimberlyire wrote:

 

kimberlyire <kimberlyire

Re: How to deal with a leather present

 

Sunday, December 28, 2008, 3:59 PM

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

-Hi Chana!

 

I agree with Jacqueline, there is always a tactful way to let someone

know that leather was once a defenseless cow. I have many friends who

have always known we are vegan, but don't always make the connection

with many things animal, such as leather purses, belts, wallets, shoes,

etc. I myself also know of a few vegetarians who do still buy leather

products, since there seem to be many different degrees of animal

awareness. I definitely wouldn't " let it go " & say nothing, as it could

very well lead to many other leather gifts down the road, especially if

you tell her how much you loved the purse. I myself use any opportunity

to spread awareness & compassion whenever I'm able. You never know, you

may very well be the one who sends her on her own vegan/vegetarian

journey..... ..Best of luck! :)

 

@gro ups.com, " Jacqueline Bodnar " <jb wrote:

>

>

>

> Hi Chana,

>

> If it were me, I would politely thank her and tell her that you

> absolutely love the handbag, with the exception of the leather straps.

I

> would nicely explain tha tusing leater is against our ethics and would

> she mind if you returned it for a similar bag that didn't have any

> leather on it? This way she will know your ethical preference, it

> shouldn't ever happen again, and you don't end up with a useless gift

> that contributed to death and it ends up sitting in your closet. Then

> I'd return it and find another handbag (since that's what she wanted

you

> to have), but one that is vegan. And show it to her when you buy it.

> Most likely it was completely innocent. Most people are not into these

> isssues don't even realize the leather straps. But all the same, I

would

> gently handle the situation and then just move on.

>

> Jacqueline

>

 

 

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