Guest guest Posted January 29, 2009 Report Share Posted January 29, 2009 This article came to me from another group... Don't X-ray My Veggies Though not exactly an outcry, there were grumbles and groans when the US Food and Drug Administration (FDA) ruled that food processors could irradiate fresh or bagged spinach and iceberg lettuce as a way to kill bacterial contaminants such as E. Coli and Listeria. The reasoning for irradiation is twofold: One, irradiation would kill the microorganisms that lead to spoilage, so the produce stays fresher, longer -- and second, killing the bacteria might potentially reduce headline-making outbreaks of foodborne illness. Given that the FDA has been known for having made some... shall we say, perplexing.. . decisions, the question is whether irradiated food is a positive safety ruling or yet another well-intentioned protection attempt that does more harm than good? MORE ON IRRADIATION Let's start with the basics. Irradiation is the process of exposing food to ionizing energy (gamma rays, electron beams, or X-rays). These pulses of energy destroy bacteria on the food by disrupting its DNA, though they do not make the food radioactive per se. You may be surprised to hear that you've likely been ingesting irradiated food for years. The FDA approved irradiation of various meats back in the 1990s (Omaha Steaks, for instance, uses the technology for its gourmet burgers) and the majority of dried spices, in particular, are irradiated to kill microbes that can shorten shelf life. So it's not new. But some new variables do come into play when vegetables are irradiated, and that's what has consumer advocates up in arms. Their point -- irradiation destroys nutrients, making foods less healthy... and we don't know what other health problems may arise in the future, due to processes that we are only beginning to use without evidence showing safety over long periods of time. OVERLOOKING THE ISSUES To better understand the problem, I contacted Bill Freese, science policy analyst for the Center for Food Safety in Washington, DC. He and other critics say the ruling is fraught with imperfections, which ironically don't make sense from either a health or business standpoint.. . Reduced nutrients. Much like cooking, irradiation can lead to nutrient loss. Freese doesn't believe the FDA takes this concern seriously. " They approved irradiation of spinach and iceberg lettuce at up to 4 kiloGray (4 kGy), yet the studies reviewed by the FDA found that spinach loses nearly all of its ascorbic acid (Vitamin C) when irradiated with just 1 kGy, and 12% of its folate at 2.5 kGy. Separate research on lettuce found a 24% to 53% lower ascorbic acid (Vitamin C) level at just 1 kGy. " Doesn't kill bacteria completely. Irradiation at the low levels used in produce kills most but not all bacteria. For instance, the Clostridium bacterium that causes botulism is insensitive to radiation. And it doesn't kill viruses, like norovirus, which can cause viral gastroenteritis (aka the stomach flu). Freshness. This process adds another step -- possibly a lengthy one -- to the journey from field to table. Produce would have to be transported to facilities equipped to irradiate food before it could be delivered to stores, which will add time to the shipping process. Unique radiolytic products and free radicals. Irradiation of lettuce and spinach generates free radicals from water in the leafy greens. These can degrade the structural integrity of the leaves, making them limp, and may also cause other undesirable changes. Freese acknowledges, however, that research into these particular problems is inconclusive. Is it worth the cost? Then, of course, comes the question of cost-benefit. According to Trevor V. Suslow, PhD, researcher at the University of California, Davis, growers aren't likely to want to pay the additional costs involved with irradiating produce. The truth is, contamination is very rare, though it does grab headlines since it can be fatal. " If you evaluate the frequency or likelihood of pathogen contamination versus the cost of running everything through a treatment facility, along with the limitations to shelf life in the real world, I think you can see where this doesn't make sense, " he said. Mislabeling. Currently, all irradiated foods need to carry the " Radura " label and the words " treated with radiation " or " treated by irradiation. " The food industry is pushing to change this for lettuce and spinach because they fear consumers won't buy products so labeled. Their hope is to use a more familiar term, pasteurized, which would appear on labels as " cold pasteurization " or " electronic pasteurization. " This request has not been granted -- but many are concerned that if it is, it would be a misrepresentation and deceitful to the public. WHAT IT ALL MEANS Net-net, for the moment it appears unlikely the market will be flooded with these products -- and second, it's not clearly dangerous, based on what we know thus far. Irradiation reduces health benefits of produce, but it doesn't appear to render it " harmful. " In my view, though, the best solution is to avoid the issue altogether. I personally find that farmers' markets are a great way to buy produce, because I know it's fresh and I get to talk with the grower face to face -- and that relationship gives me peace of mind every time I set the table. Source(s): Trevor V. Suslow, PhD, extension research specialist, University of California, Davis. Bill Freese, science policy analyst, Center for Food Safety, Washington, DC Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 31, 2009 Report Share Posted January 31, 2009 Does any one know - Are organic veggies irradiated too? Thanks! Tracy ) , robin koloms <rkoloms wrote: > > This article came to me from another group... > > Don't X-ray My Veggies > > > Though not exactly an outcry, there were grumbles and groans when the US Food and Drug Administration (FDA) ruled that food processors could irradiate fresh or bagged spinach and iceberg lettuce as a way to kill bacterial contaminants such as E. Coli and Listeria. The reasoning for irradiation is twofold: One, irradiation would kill the microorganisms that lead to spoilage, so the produce stays fresher, longer -- and second, killing the bacteria might potentially reduce headline-making outbreaks of foodborne illness. Given that the FDA has been known for having made some... shall we say, perplexing.. . decisions, the question is whether irradiated food is a positive safety ruling or yet another well-intentioned protection attempt that does more harm than good? > > MORE ON IRRADIATION > > Let's start with the basics. Irradiation is the process of exposing food to ionizing energy (gamma rays, electron beams, or X-rays). These pulses of energy destroy bacteria on the food by disrupting its DNA, though they do not make the food radioactive per se. > You may be surprised to hear that you've likely been ingesting irradiated food for years. The FDA approved irradiation of various meats back in the 1990s (Omaha Steaks, for instance, uses the technology for its gourmet burgers) and the majority of dried spices, in particular, are irradiated to kill microbes that can shorten shelf life. So it's not new. But some new variables do come into play when vegetables are irradiated, and that's what has consumer advocates up in arms. Their point -- irradiation destroys nutrients, making foods less healthy... and we don't know what other health problems may arise in the future, due to processes that we are only beginning to use without evidence showing safety over long periods of time. > > OVERLOOKING THE ISSUES > > To better understand the problem, I contacted Bill Freese, science policy analyst for the Center for Food Safety in Washington, DC. He and other critics say the ruling is fraught with imperfections, which ironically don't make sense from either a health or business standpoint.. . > > Reduced nutrients. Much like cooking, irradiation can lead to nutrient loss. Freese doesn't believe the FDA takes this concern seriously. " They approved irradiation of spinach and iceberg lettuce at up to 4 kiloGray (4 kGy), yet the studies reviewed by the FDA found that spinach loses nearly all of its ascorbic acid (Vitamin C) when irradiated with just 1 kGy, and 12% of its folate at 2.5 kGy. Separate research on lettuce found a 24% to 53% lower ascorbic acid (Vitamin C) level at just 1 kGy. " > Doesn't kill bacteria completely. Irradiation at the low levels used in produce kills most but not all bacteria. For instance, the Clostridium bacterium that causes botulism is insensitive to radiation. And it doesn't kill viruses, like norovirus, which can cause viral gastroenteritis (aka the stomach flu). > Freshness. This process adds another step -- possibly a lengthy one -- to the journey from field to table. Produce would have to be transported to facilities equipped to irradiate food before it could be delivered to stores, which will add time to the shipping process. > Unique radiolytic products and free radicals. Irradiation of lettuce and spinach generates free radicals from water in the leafy greens. These can degrade the structural integrity of the leaves, making them limp, and may also cause other undesirable changes. Freese acknowledges, however, that research into these particular problems is inconclusive. > Is it worth the cost? Then, of course, comes the question of cost-benefit. According to Trevor V. Suslow, PhD, researcher at the University of California, Davis, growers aren't likely to want to pay the additional costs involved with irradiating produce. The truth is, contamination is very rare, though it does grab headlines since it can be fatal. " If you evaluate the frequency or likelihood of pathogen contamination versus the cost of running everything through a treatment facility, along with the limitations to shelf life in the real world, I think you can see where this doesn't make sense, " he said. > Mislabeling. Currently, all irradiated foods need to carry the " Radura " label and the words " treated with radiation " or " treated by irradiation. " The food industry is pushing to change this for lettuce and spinach because they fear consumers won't buy products so labeled. Their hope is to use a more familiar term, pasteurized, which would appear on labels as " cold pasteurization " or " electronic pasteurization. " This request has not been granted -- but many are concerned that if it is, it would be a misrepresentation and deceitful to the public. > > WHAT IT ALL MEANS > > Net-net, for the moment it appears unlikely the market will be flooded with these products -- and second, it's not clearly dangerous, based on what we know thus far. Irradiation reduces health benefits of produce, but it doesn't appear to render it " harmful. " > > In my view, though, the best solution is to avoid the issue altogether. I personally find that farmers' markets are a great way to buy produce, because I know it's fresh and I get to talk with the grower face to face -- and that relationship gives me peace of mind every time I set the table. > > Source(s): > Trevor V. Suslow, PhD, extension research specialist, University of California, Davis. > Bill Freese, science policy analyst, Center for Food Safety, Washington, DC > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 31, 2009 Report Share Posted January 31, 2009 While radiation is not considered to be an organic standard, it is certainly possible that companies like General Mills (Muir Glen) don't care. --- On Fri, 1/30/09, tbozek77 <tbozek77 wrote: tbozek77 <tbozek77 Re: Don't X-Ray my Veggies Friday, January 30, 2009, 11:35 PM Does any one know - Are organic veggies irradiated too? Thanks! Tracy ) @gro ups.com, robin koloms <rkoloms > wrote: > > This article came to me from another group... > > Don't X-ray My Veggies > > > Though not exactly an outcry, there were grumbles and groans when the US Food and Drug Administration (FDA) ruled that food processors could irradiate fresh or bagged spinach and iceberg lettuce as a way to kill bacterial contaminants such as E. Coli and Listeria. The reasoning for irradiation is twofold: One, irradiation would kill the microorganisms that lead to spoilage, so the produce stays fresher, longer -- and second, killing the bacteria might potentially reduce headline-making outbreaks of foodborne illness. Given that the FDA has been known for having made some... shall we say, perplexing.. . decisions, the question is whether irradiated food is a positive safety ruling or yet another well-intentioned protection attempt that does more harm than good? > > MORE ON IRRADIATION > > Let's start with the basics. Irradiation is the process of exposing food to ionizing energy (gamma rays, electron beams, or X-rays). These pulses of energy destroy bacteria on the food by disrupting its DNA, though they do not make the food radioactive per se. > You may be surprised to hear that you've likely been ingesting irradiated food for years. The FDA approved irradiation of various meats back in the 1990s (Omaha Steaks, for instance, uses the technology for its gourmet burgers) and the majority of dried spices, in particular, are irradiated to kill microbes that can shorten shelf life. So it's not new. But some new variables do come into play when vegetables are irradiated, and that's what has consumer advocates up in arms. Their point -- irradiation destroys nutrients, making foods less healthy... and we don't know what other health problems may arise in the future, due to processes that we are only beginning to use without evidence showing safety over long periods of time. > > OVERLOOKING THE ISSUES > > To better understand the problem, I contacted Bill Freese, science policy analyst for the Center for Food Safety in Washington, DC. He and other critics say the ruling is fraught with imperfections, which ironically don't make sense from either a health or business standpoint.. . > > Reduced nutrients. Much like cooking, irradiation can lead to nutrient loss. Freese doesn't believe the FDA takes this concern seriously. " They approved irradiation of spinach and iceberg lettuce at up to 4 kiloGray (4 kGy), yet the studies reviewed by the FDA found that spinach loses nearly all of its ascorbic acid (Vitamin C) when irradiated with just 1 kGy, and 12% of its folate at 2.5 kGy. Separate research on lettuce found a 24% to 53% lower ascorbic acid (Vitamin C) level at just 1 kGy. " > Doesn't kill bacteria completely. Irradiation at the low levels used in produce kills most but not all bacteria. For instance, the Clostridium bacterium that causes botulism is insensitive to radiation. And it doesn't kill viruses, like norovirus, which can cause viral gastroenteritis (aka the stomach flu). > Freshness. This process adds another step -- possibly a lengthy one -- to the journey from field to table. Produce would have to be transported to facilities equipped to irradiate food before it could be delivered to stores, which will add time to the shipping process. > Unique radiolytic products and free radicals. Irradiation of lettuce and spinach generates free radicals from water in the leafy greens. These can degrade the structural integrity of the leaves, making them limp, and may also cause other undesirable changes. Freese acknowledges, however, that research into these particular problems is inconclusive. > Is it worth the cost? Then, of course, comes the question of cost-benefit. According to Trevor V. Suslow, PhD, researcher at the University of California, Davis, growers aren't likely to want to pay the additional costs involved with irradiating produce. The truth is, contamination is very rare, though it does grab headlines since it can be fatal. " If you evaluate the frequency or likelihood of pathogen contamination versus the cost of running everything through a treatment facility, along with the limitations to shelf life in the real world, I think you can see where this doesn't make sense, " he said. > Mislabeling. Currently, all irradiated foods need to carry the " Radura " label and the words " treated with radiation " or " treated by irradiation. " The food industry is pushing to change this for lettuce and spinach because they fear consumers won't buy products so labeled. Their hope is to use a more familiar term, pasteurized, which would appear on labels as " cold pasteurization " or " electronic pasteurization. " This request has not been granted -- but many are concerned that if it is, it would be a misrepresentation and deceitful to the public. > > WHAT IT ALL MEANS > > Net-net, for the moment it appears unlikely the market will be flooded with these products -- and second, it's not clearly dangerous, based on what we know thus far. Irradiation reduces health benefits of produce, but it doesn't appear to render it " harmful. " > > In my view, though, the best solution is to avoid the issue altogether. I personally find that farmers' markets are a great way to buy produce, because I know it's fresh and I get to talk with the grower face to face -- and that relationship gives me peace of mind every time I set the table. > > Source(s): > Trevor V. Suslow, PhD, extension research specialist, University of California, Davis. > Bill Freese, science policy analyst, Center for Food Safety, Washington, DC > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 31, 2009 Report Share Posted January 31, 2009 My understanding is that organic veggies cannot be irradiated and can't be treated with any synthetic materials. I'm sure someone else will find the exact quote from QAI or some other organization to illustrate this (others in this groups are WAY more organized than I am). --- On Fri, 1/30/09, tbozek77 <tbozek77 wrote: tbozek77 <tbozek77 Re: Don't X-Ray my Veggies Friday, January 30, 2009, 9:35 PM Does any one know - Are organic veggies irradiated too? Thanks! Tracy ) @gro ups.com, robin koloms <rkoloms > wrote: > > This article came to me from another group... > > Don't X-ray My Veggies > > > Though not exactly an outcry, there were grumbles and groans when the US Food and Drug Administration (FDA) ruled that food processors could irradiate fresh or bagged spinach and iceberg lettuce as a way to kill bacterial contaminants such as E. Coli and Listeria. The reasoning for irradiation is twofold: One, irradiation would kill the microorganisms that lead to spoilage, so the produce stays fresher, longer -- and second, killing the bacteria might potentially reduce headline-making outbreaks of foodborne illness. Given that the FDA has been known for having made some... shall we say, perplexing.. . decisions, the question is whether irradiated food is a positive safety ruling or yet another well-intentioned protection attempt that does more harm than good? > > MORE ON IRRADIATION > > Let's start with the basics. Irradiation is the process of exposing food to ionizing energy (gamma rays, electron beams, or X-rays). These pulses of energy destroy bacteria on the food by disrupting its DNA, though they do not make the food radioactive per se. > You may be surprised to hear that you've likely been ingesting irradiated food for years. The FDA approved irradiation of various meats back in the 1990s (Omaha Steaks, for instance, uses the technology for its gourmet burgers) and the majority of dried spices, in particular, are irradiated to kill microbes that can shorten shelf life. So it's not new. But some new variables do come into play when vegetables are irradiated, and that's what has consumer advocates up in arms. Their point -- irradiation destroys nutrients, making foods less healthy... and we don't know what other health problems may arise in the future, due to processes that we are only beginning to use without evidence showing safety over long periods of time. > > OVERLOOKING THE ISSUES > > To better understand the problem, I contacted Bill Freese, science policy analyst for the Center for Food Safety in Washington, DC. He and other critics say the ruling is fraught with imperfections, which ironically don't make sense from either a health or business standpoint.. . > > Reduced nutrients. Much like cooking, irradiation can lead to nutrient loss. Freese doesn't believe the FDA takes this concern seriously. " They approved irradiation of spinach and iceberg lettuce at up to 4 kiloGray (4 kGy), yet the studies reviewed by the FDA found that spinach loses nearly all of its ascorbic acid (Vitamin C) when irradiated with just 1 kGy, and 12% of its folate at 2.5 kGy. Separate research on lettuce found a 24% to 53% lower ascorbic acid (Vitamin C) level at just 1 kGy. " > Doesn't kill bacteria completely. Irradiation at the low levels used in produce kills most but not all bacteria. For instance, the Clostridium bacterium that causes botulism is insensitive to radiation. And it doesn't kill viruses, like norovirus, which can cause viral gastroenteritis (aka the stomach flu). > Freshness. This process adds another step -- possibly a lengthy one -- to the journey from field to table. Produce would have to be transported to facilities equipped to irradiate food before it could be delivered to stores, which will add time to the shipping process. > Unique radiolytic products and free radicals. Irradiation of lettuce and spinach generates free radicals from water in the leafy greens. These can degrade the structural integrity of the leaves, making them limp, and may also cause other undesirable changes. Freese acknowledges, however, that research into these particular problems is inconclusive. > Is it worth the cost? Then, of course, comes the question of cost-benefit. According to Trevor V. Suslow, PhD, researcher at the University of California, Davis, growers aren't likely to want to pay the additional costs involved with irradiating produce. The truth is, contamination is very rare, though it does grab headlines since it can be fatal. " If you evaluate the frequency or likelihood of pathogen contamination versus the cost of running everything through a treatment facility, along with the limitations to shelf life in the real world, I think you can see where this doesn't make sense, " he said. > Mislabeling. Currently, all irradiated foods need to carry the " Radura " label and the words " treated with radiation " or " treated by irradiation. " The food industry is pushing to change this for lettuce and spinach because they fear consumers won't buy products so labeled. Their hope is to use a more familiar term, pasteurized, which would appear on labels as " cold pasteurization " or " electronic pasteurization. " This request has not been granted -- but many are concerned that if it is, it would be a misrepresentation and deceitful to the public. > > WHAT IT ALL MEANS > > Net-net, for the moment it appears unlikely the market will be flooded with these products -- and second, it's not clearly dangerous, based on what we know thus far. Irradiation reduces health benefits of produce, but it doesn't appear to render it " harmful. " > > In my view, though, the best solution is to avoid the issue altogether. I personally find that farmers' markets are a great way to buy produce, because I know it's fresh and I get to talk with the grower face to face -- and that relationship gives me peace of mind every time I set the table. > > Source(s): > Trevor V. Suslow, PhD, extension research specialist, University of California, Davis. > Bill Freese, science policy analyst, Center for Food Safety, Washington, DC > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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