Eggs

[Guest guest]

I would wonder what he thinks there is in eggs which would be of benefit

that you could not find from a plant based source.

 

BL

 

On 2/17/06, Petluvr10 <Petluvr10 wrote:

>

> I went to a naturopath (a very reputable one) for my digestive problems

> and

> he strongly suggested that I begin to incorporate eggs into my diet. I've

> been a vegan since I was 12, so of course I am very oppossed to

> this. What

> should I do? Are range-free eggs cruelty-free? I agree that eggs would

> benefit

> me (I've been told this by MANY credible sources), but i don't want to

> jepordize thousands of chickens soley for my benefit. (He also wants me

> to cut

> back and eventually cut-out the soy. He commends me on my vegan diet

> though).

> Please help!!!

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

How strange that he would commend your vegan diet and then recommend that you

eat eggs!

 

This has to be a matter of personal choice, however, after not eating eggs for

such a long time, you may find that you have reactions/ intolerances to them

now. This has happened with me.

 

I personally cannot see any reason why eggs would benefit your diet. You can

get all the things you need from a vegan diet anyway.

 

Petluvr10 wrote:

I went to a naturopath (a very reputable one) for my digestive problems and

he strongly suggested that I begin to incorporate eggs into my diet. I've

been a vegan since I was 12, so of course I am very oppossed to this. What

should I do? Are range-free eggs cruelty-free? I agree that eggs would

benefit

me (I've been told this by MANY credible sources), but i don't want to

jepordize thousands of chickens soley for my benefit. (He also wants me to cut

back and eventually cut-out the soy. He commends me on my vegan diet though).

Please help!!!

-Shelby

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

If you trust your neuropath's judgement, then you ought to consider trying

organic/free-

range eggs. However, I would try eggs on an experimental basis only - see how

you feel after

you eat them and see if it helps resolve you digestion issues and go from there.

good luck

 

, Petluvr10 wrote:

>

> I went to a naturopath (a very reputable one) for my digestive problems and

> he strongly suggested that I begin to incorporate eggs into my diet. I've

> been a vegan since I was 12, so of course I am very oppossed to this. What

> should I do? Are range-free eggs cruelty-free? I agree that eggs would

benefit

> me (I've been told this by MANY credible sources), but i don't want to

> jepordize thousands of chickens soley for my benefit. (He also wants me to

cut

> back and eventually cut-out the soy. He commends me on my vegan diet

though).

> Please help!!!

> -Shelby

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

" Trying " eggs on a trial basis is like trying red meat just to see how it

would effect me. I don't think I could do it. I do miss eating eggs... I'm

ashamed to say that that was one of the animal-based foods that I really did

enjoy. Ugh, if only chickens were treated right!!!!

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

Although I am also put off by eggs, if you trust your naturopath, then you

should consider

eating eggs - at least on a trial basis. I would recommend seeing how you feel

after eating

them and if your digestive issues calm down. Then you can see if you want to

continue.

also I would suggest that you eat organic free range eggs.

Good luck

 

, Petluvr10 wrote:

>

> I went to a naturopath (a very reputable one) for my digestive problems and

> he strongly suggested that I begin to incorporate eggs into my diet. I've

> been a vegan since I was 12, so of course I am very oppossed to this. What

> should I do? Are range-free eggs cruelty-free? I agree that eggs would

benefit

> me (I've been told this by MANY credible sources), but i don't want to

> jepordize thousands of chickens soley for my benefit. (He also wants me to

cut

> back and eventually cut-out the soy. He commends me on my vegan diet

though).

> Please help!!!

> -Shelby

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

I live near Chicago... there are no farms nearby for me to find a local

farmer to buy eggs from!

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

i am an athlete and i broke my back a year ago. healing had been rough and my

naturopath has also suggested eggs. i have yet to attempt it, but i have found

that there are some egg white protein smoothie powders you can get from health

food stores. they have no cholesterol...but it is still an egg. i figured it

would be easier to eat it when it doesn't look like an egg. i can't bring myself

to sit down and eat an omlette. i hope this helps. there are many varieties to

choose from and claim to be free-range...

 

Petluvr10 wrote: I went to a naturopath (a very reputable one) for my

digestive problems and

he strongly suggested that I begin to incorporate eggs into my diet. I've

been a vegan since I was 12, so of course I am very oppossed to this. What

should I do? Are range-free eggs cruelty-free? I agree that eggs would

benefit

me (I've been told this by MANY credible sources), but i don't want to

jepordize thousands of chickens soley for my benefit. (He also wants me to cut

back and eventually cut-out the soy. He commends me on my vegan diet though).

Please help!!!

-Shelby

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

If your objection to eggs is the treatment of the animals, why not look for

a local farmer who meets your standards?

 

BL

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

Maybe the problem is the celiac and not the vegan. We (celiacs) may have

unresolved gut issues that make the absorption of proteins (or certain

vitamins) more difficult. Just wondering out loud as my 7 yo celiac has some

of these issues lingering after 3 years of gluten free eating.

 

 

 

Lisa

 

 

 

 

 

He said some of us are just semi-dependant on the amino acids from animal

products

 

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[Guest guest]

Can I say one thing here. I've been a vegan for about 4 years straight and

off and on before that. Recently I had been feeling very tired recently,

sleep disturbances, weak muscles despite a lot of weight lifting training,

as well as other symptoms. My smart doctor who is supportive of a vegan

diet and is actually well known maybe even among some of you (Dr Joel

Furhman) suggested I get an amino acid profile blood test done because of my

symptoms. The test showed (a very accurate one) me pretty low in 5

important amino acids. Now I am taking amino acid supplements and have added

eggs back into my diet (2 eggs 3 times per week) and am starting to feel

much better. My case is rare and an analysis of my extremely healthy vegan

diet showed very high (3-4 times the RDA) on even the amino acids I tested

low in. In other words, my diet was not the problem but had everything to

do with my absorption, perhaps reduced genetic related conversion of

essential amino acids to non essential, etc.. etc... We don't know the

exact reasons other than this doctor said he has seen this before, but that

it is very rare even among long term vegans. He said some of us are just

semi-dependant on the amino acids from animal products. I for one am

definetely one of those. It's a bitter pill to swallow, and now my vegan 3

year old daughter tells me, " MOM! I can't think straight when you are eating

those eggs! "

 

Ask your naturopath if he can get an amino acid profile, quantitative blood

test. This will tell you for sure if you really need *a little* egg or not.

You may even just ask a typical medical doctor to run the test for you.

It's kind of an expensive test so hopefully you have insurance that could

cover the cost. I'm leary about the accuracy and validity of what

naturopaths say and do, however.

 

Good luck!

 

>

>

> On Behalf Of

> Petluvr10

> Friday, February 17, 2006 9:30 PM

>

> Eggs

>

>

> I went to a naturopath (a very reputable one) for my

> digestive problems and

> he strongly suggested that I begin to incorporate eggs into

> my diet. I've

> been a vegan since I was 12, so of course I am very oppossed

> to this. What

> should I do? Are range-free eggs cruelty-free? I agree that

> eggs would benefit

> me (I've been told this by MANY credible sources), but i

> don't want to

> jepordize thousands of chickens soley for my benefit. (He

> also wants me to cut

> back and eventually cut-out the soy. He commends me on my

> vegan diet though).

> Please help!!!

> -Shelby

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

I might get my head bit off, but if you feel this way, why don't you keep your

own chickens? Or do you live in an apartment. Silly me, it's fairly easy to

keep ones own chickens in Australia, but I don't know about where you live. We

used to have chooks (chickens) but not any more, too much work and I have to

work outside the home now!

-

Petluvr10

Sunday, February 19, 2006 11:01 AM

Re: Re: Eggs

 

 

" Trying " eggs on a trial basis is like trying red meat just to see how it

would effect me. I don't think I could do it. I do miss eating eggs... I'm

ashamed to say that that was one of the animal-based foods that I really did

enjoy. Ugh, if only chickens were treated right!!!!

 

 

[Guest guest]

In England we can buy free range and organic eggs from

the supermarkets.

 

--- Petluvr10 wrote:

 

 

 

I live near Chicago... there are no farms nearby for

me to find a local

farmer to buy eggs from!

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

Lisa-

I've been gluten-free for several years and the GI problems have yet to

be resolved. Will they ever go away or do I have permanent damage and will

always suffer from this despite cutting out the gluten???

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

Can u explain a bit about Chia?

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

I was introduced to Chia some time ago. At that time I

had been taking Prilisec for digetive problems. I

don't know what problems you have, but go online and

look at the benefits of Chia. It may help you. I no

longer have to take the precription and haven't for

three years after being told that I would have to take

it for the rest of my life.

 

Betty Lou.

 

 

 

--- Petluvr10 wrote:

 

 

 

" Trying " eggs on a trial basis is like trying red meat

just to see how it

would effect me. I don't think I could do it. I do

miss eating eggs... I'm

ashamed to say that that was one of the animal-based

foods that I really did

enjoy. Ugh, if only chickens were treated right!!!!

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

Chia is a seed that when soaked in water becomes

gelatinous. It is not unpleasant to eat and can be

added to most anything. It can be added to bread in

the seed state--although a little more water has to be

added because it soaks up about 9 times its weight in

water. It is high in nutrient--I don't have the

material available right now to look at. It is an

endurance food. Central American runners used it. They

would take a small pouch of it and on the strength of

Chia alone they could outrun game. They would

literally run until the animal was too tired to go any

further. It is low in calories, and it aids digestion

as well. There is a wealth of information about it on

the web--which is where I got my material from. It is

comparable to flax seed in the nutrients that it

has--if you know anything about flax seed.I will try

to find what I have on it tomorrow.

 

Betty Lou

 

--- Petluvr10 wrote:

 

 

 

Can u explain a bit about Chia?

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

I went ahead and looked up some places on the web for

Chia. Here they are:

http://www.living-foods.com/articles/chia.html

http://www.nutritiondata.com/facts-B00001-01c20nN.html

That will get you started. I also purchased mine from

the web and though a little costley, it lasts a

loooonnnnnggg time!

 

Betty Lou

 

--- Petluvr10 wrote:

 

 

 

Can u explain a bit about Chia?

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

Hi there

 

My opinion on the gluten intolerance is that once you

are gluten intolerant, you always will be.

 

Usually when you have a gluten intolerance, damage has

been done to the villi in the digestive system. As far

as I am aware, this damage cannot be repaired, you can

only limit the damage by staying away from gluten in

the future. Your body does not like gluten and finds

it difficult to digest. If you continue eating gluten,

you are damaging your digestive system further and

also reducing your body's ability to absorb and use

nutrients.

 

I have heard reports of people who have cut out gluten

for a certain amount of time and have then gone back

to eating it with mo ill effects. However, I have

found from personal experience and experience of

others I know that this is very rare.

 

Hope this helps.

 

--- Petluvr10 wrote:

 

 

 

Lisa-

I've been gluten-free for several years and the GI

problems have yet to

be resolved. Will they ever go away or do I have

permanent damage and will

always suffer from this despite cutting out the

gluten???

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

Most researchers now feel that any continued damage after a year or so is

due to incidental (or purposeful) inclusion of wheat/gluten in the diet. Do

you get your antibody levels checked to make sure no gluten is sneaking in?

 

>

> I've been gluten-free for several years and the GI problems

> have yet to

> be resolved. Will they ever go away or do I have permanent

> damage and will

> always suffer from this despite cutting out the gluten???

 

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[Guest guest]

Although this isn't totally cruelty free. If you have

a yard, it is very easy to keep 2 or 3 chickens and

they will provide you with plenty of eggs! It's

probably the least cruel of methods and chickens are

really nice pets.

 

Heather

[Guest guest]

I don't have the type of house/yard to have chickens. (I live in a town

house). Are any of the organic/free-range eggs cruelty-free?????

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

Are vegan children more prone to allergies? If so what's reason

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No, vegan children aren't more prone to allergies. I know A LOT of people with

kids with food allergies. Some of them come to a veg diet because of the

allergies...one friend would NEVER pick a veg diet, but with her four children

and the various allergies she is down to beef as the only " meat " they can eat

and eggs and dairy are also on their list (very common allergens) so they eat a

lot of vegan meals.

 

My three vegan children have no known allergies (they've never eaten any

non-vegan foods so I guess they could be allergic to something we don't eat),

but almost all of the families we are friends with have at least one food

allergy. I don't know if they are more diagnosed these days or if more

allergies are occurring due to the havoc we are reeking on the environment.

 

Linda

A Marketplace for a Better World (Cruelty-free, Environmentally-Conscious, and

Fair Labor Products)

http://triballife.net/

http://triballifeinc.blogspot.com/

My personal blogs:

http://veganlinda.blogspot.com/

http://cucarfree.blogspot.com/

 

 

 

 

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Thursday, February 19, 2009 2:12:52 PM

Eggs

 

 

Are vegan children more prone to allergies? If so what's reason

Jeffery M. Hill

 

V-Dimension, Inc

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[Guest guest]

We went vegan because our son has a food allergy. It was much easier

for us overall. My sister-in-law has a similar problem, but she's not

got an allergy, she's lactose intolerant, and my son has a full on,

medically confirmed milk protein allergy.

 

I know several others who have gone to vegetarian/vegan diets because

of other food allergies, not the other way around (they weren't vegan

and then discovered them - it was more of a 'hey this is much easier

and much healthier than this other way). Of course I know a bunch of

vegans but I don't know if there are food allergies for them or not.

I'm leaning towards what Robin said on it, but then there is more

awareness, and testing available now, than say 10 years ago, but then

we've also been hitting the environment harder and having more impact

on foods we eat than our parents, grandparents and great grandparents

ever did. Hard to say, but it seems like both - awareness and the

impact on the environment. That's what I think anyway...and now I'm

thinking more on this...

 

Missie

 

 

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> Are vegan children more prone to allergies? If so what's reason

> Jeffery M. Hill

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Many food allergies occur because the allergy triggers are introduced too

early.  While this is not a complete list, citrus, strawberries, dairy, egg

yolks, soy and wheat are common allergy foods that should not be introduced

before baby turns one.

 

Robin

 

--- On Thu, 2/19/09, Linda Evans <veganlinda wrote:

 

Linda Evans <veganlinda

Re: Eggs

 

Thursday, February 19, 2009, 2:42 PM

 

 

 

 

 

 

No, vegan children aren't more prone to allergies. I know A LOT of people with

kids with food allergies. Some of them come to a veg diet because of the

allergies... one friend would NEVER pick a veg diet, but with her four children

and the various allergies she is down to beef as the only " meat " they can eat

and eggs and dairy are also on their list (very common allergens) so they eat a

lot of vegan meals.

 

My three vegan children have no known allergies (they've never eaten any

non-vegan foods so I guess they could be allergic to something we don't eat),

but almost all of the families we are friends with have at least one food

allergy. I don't know if they are more diagnosed these days or if more allergies

are occurring due to the havoc we are reeking on the environment.

 

Linda

A Marketplace for a Better World (Cruelty-free, Environmentally- Conscious, and

Fair Labor Products)

http://triballife. net/

http://triballifein c.blogspot. com/

My personal blogs:

http://veganlinda. blogspot. com/

http://cucarfree. blogspot. com/

 

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Eggs

 

Are vegan children more prone to allergies? If so what's reason

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