Guest guest Posted April 27, 2009 Report Share Posted April 27, 2009 Hey everyone! I have been a vegetarian for almost 10 years now. I have two boys (age 3 and 17 months). I have been raising them lacto-ovo-vegetarian but don't include soy products. I've read too many conflicting reports on how soy may actually be terrible for your health and just don't want to risk it. But now I'm worried that I may not be giving them a well balanced veg diet if I'm excluding soy. Is anyone else out there raising vegetarian kids and excluding soy?? Seems like most veg eat alot of soy. Any advice or thoughts would be GREATLY appreciated!!! THANK YOU!!!! Denise Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 27, 2009 Report Share Posted April 27, 2009 i just spent a year soy free until I could make the same deicison. I now use whole soy only. Edame, non-gmo organic tofu and vegan margerine w/soy in it. the latter two in moderation. I decided to go with dr.weil teaching on this. My girls and i are wheat, gluten and milk free. we do not eat fast food or processed food. most of the people who consume to much soy and bad soy consume large amount of processed soy foods. i do not feel that tofu will harm me and my girls nearly as much as junk and processed foods. moderation and making sure its a whole food with no gmo's etc, in best. thats just my two cents. hhmmmm tofu vs. pizza hut.....i think tofu wins.... unita ________________________________ Denise <deniseamay Monday, April 27, 2009 3:38:02 PM Anyone raising veg kids without Soy? Hey everyone! I have been a vegetarian for almost 10 years now. I have two boys (age 3 and 17 months). I have been raising them lacto-ovo-vegetaria n but don't include soy products. I've read too many conflicting reports on how soy may actually be terrible for your health and just don't want to risk it. But now I'm worried that I may not be giving them a well balanced veg diet if I'm excluding soy. Is anyone else out there raising vegetarian kids and excluding soy?? Seems like most veg eat alot of soy. Any advice or thoughts would be GREATLY appreciated! !! THANK YOU!!!! Denise Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 27, 2009 Report Share Posted April 27, 2009 There is good soy and there is bad soy. We eat tofu and edamame (only organic/non-GMO). That said, soy is not at all necessary. What do you think that you diet is missing by not including soy? If it's protein (which most Americans get too much of), you can get more than enough from whole grains, beans, lentils, etc. --- On Mon, 4/27/09, Denise <deniseamay wrote: Denise <deniseamay Anyone raising veg kids without Soy? Monday, April 27, 2009, 2:38 PM Hey everyone! I have been a vegetarian for almost 10 years now. I have two boys (age 3 and 17 months). I have been raising them lacto-ovo-vegetaria n but don't include soy products. I've read too many conflicting reports on how soy may actually be terrible for your health and just don't want to risk it. But now I'm worried that I may not be giving them a well balanced veg diet if I'm excluding soy. Is anyone else out there raising vegetarian kids and excluding soy?? Seems like most veg eat alot of soy. Any advice or thoughts would be GREATLY appreciated! !! THANK YOU!!!! Denise Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 27, 2009 Report Share Posted April 27, 2009 We aren't soy free, but you can certainly have a complete diet vegan or not without eating soy. Is there a reason you think your family is missing something? What do you think they are missing? Have you talked with a veg-friendly dietitian and/or kept a food diary? I wouldn't say that most veg eat more soy than the general public. A lot of the omnis I know eat quite a bit of soy (they may not realize it). When I was vegetarian I ate very little tofu, tempeh, miso, edamame, but I'm sure I was eating soy in processed foods. :-) Linda A Marketplace for a Better World (Cruelty-free, Environmentally-Conscious, and Fair Labor Products) http://triballife.net/ http://triballifeinc.blogspot.com/ My personal blogs: http://veganlinda.blogspot.com/ http://cucarfree.blogspot.com/ ____________ _________ _________ __ Denise <deniseamay > @gro ups.com Monday, April 27, 2009 3:38:02 PM Anyone raising veg kids without Soy? Hey everyone! I have been a vegetarian for almost 10 years now. I have two boys (age 3 and 17 months). I have been raising them lacto-ovo-vegetaria n but don't include soy products. I've read too many conflicting reports on how soy may actually be terrible for your health and just don't want to risk it. But now I'm worried that I may not be giving them a well balanced veg diet if I'm excluding soy. Is anyone else out there raising vegetarian kids and excluding soy?? Seems like most veg eat alot of soy. Any advice or thoughts would be GREATLY appreciated! !! THANK YOU!!!! Denise Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 27, 2009 Report Share Posted April 27, 2009 We're not soy-free but we don't eat very much soy. When we do eat soy, we only consume whole soy products, never isolated soy protein. So we don't eat fake foods, margarine or anything processed. We also stick with fermented soy, specifically tempeh, miso and yogurt. Fermentation makes soy more digestible and destroys compounds that can make nutrients difficult to absorb. Most of the so-called information you'd find on the internet about soy is hogwash, hyperbolic scaremongering. But there is reason to be concerned about diets that are too high in protein and diets that contain a lot of processed foods. The studies that do indicate problems with soy were conducted on animals consuming huge quantities of isolated soy protein. So there is reason to avoid this processed product, as well as hydrolyzed vegetable protein, textured vegetable protein, and other " foods " that have had all of their goodness destroyed by processing. Stick with whole foods in all forms, and especially those forms of soy that are fermented, and provide your children with a wide variety of foods, and several different sources of protein, and everything will be just fine. Chandelle On Mon, Apr 27, 2009 at 2:06 PM, unita walburn <uwalburn wrote: > > > i just spent a year soy free until I could make the same deicison. I now > use whole soy only. Edame, non-gmo organic tofu and vegan margerine w/soy in > it. the latter two in moderation. I decided to go with dr.weil teaching on > this. My girls and i are wheat, gluten and milk free. we do not eat fast > food or processed food. most of the people who consume to much soy and bad > soy consume large amount of processed soy foods. i do not feel that tofu > will harm me and my girls nearly as much as junk and processed foods. > moderation and making sure its a whole food with no gmo's etc, in best. > thats just my two cents. hhmmmm tofu vs. pizza hut.....i think tofu wins.... > unita > > ________________________________ > Denise <deniseamay <deniseamay%40>> > <%40> > Monday, April 27, 2009 3:38:02 PM > Anyone raising veg kids without Soy? > > Hey everyone! > > I have been a vegetarian for almost 10 years now. I have two boys (age 3 > and 17 months). I have been raising them lacto-ovo-vegetaria n but don't > include soy products. I've read too many conflicting reports on how soy may > actually be terrible for your health and just don't want to risk it. > > But now I'm worried that I may not be giving them a well balanced veg diet > if I'm excluding soy. Is anyone else out there raising vegetarian kids and > excluding soy?? Seems like most veg eat alot of soy. > > Any advice or thoughts would be GREATLY appreciated! !! > > THANK YOU!!!! > Denise > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 27, 2009 Report Share Posted April 27, 2009 HI- We DO eat soy around here, in assorted forms (I would say 2-4 days a week if I had to guess), but I don't think you're risking anything by not including it as a source of protein, anymore than you're risking anything by not feeding them, say, egg whites, as a source of protein. It's one of those choices we all make. I wouldn't think much of it if I were you. jenni ________________________________ Denise <deniseamay Monday, April 27, 2009 2:38:02 PM Anyone raising veg kids without Soy? Hey everyone! I have been a vegetarian for almost 10 years now. I have two boys (age 3 and 17 months). I have been raising them lacto-ovo-vegetaria n but don't include soy products. I've read too many conflicting reports on how soy may actually be terrible for your health and just don't want to risk it. But now I'm worried that I may not be giving them a well balanced veg diet if I'm excluding soy. Is anyone else out there raising vegetarian kids and excluding soy?? Seems like most veg eat alot of soy. Any advice or thoughts would be GREATLY appreciated! !! THANK YOU!!!! Denise Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 28, 2009 Report Share Posted April 28, 2009 Hmm.. we drink soy milk, eat tofu 1-2 times per week and eat edamame at least twice per week. I used to cook with TVP all the time, but I've reduced that. Because we don't consume dairy I feel it's important for them to drink soy milk that is fortified. On Mon, Apr 27, 2009 at 3:38 PM, Denise <deniseamay wrote: > > > Hey everyone! > > I have been a vegetarian for almost 10 years now. I have two boys (age 3 > and 17 months). I have been raising them lacto-ovo-vegetarian but don't > include soy products. I've read too many conflicting reports on how soy may > actually be terrible for your health and just don't want to risk it. > > But now I'm worried that I may not be giving them a well balanced veg diet > if I'm excluding soy. Is anyone else out there raising vegetarian kids and > excluding soy?? Seems like most veg eat alot of soy. > > Any advice or thoughts would be GREATLY appreciated!!! > > THANK YOU!!!! > Denise > > > -- Regards, Vibeke Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 28, 2009 Report Share Posted April 28, 2009 I am vegan, but I don't have a lot of soy at all. If I eat too much it makes me sick, so I tend to avoid it. Except for edamame and soy sauce, which I have never had a problem with. We cook at home a lot and substitute organic rice milk for any recipe that calls for soy milk. I get a brand from WF that is vitamin fortified. I also use Almond Milk in my coffee as a creamer. My child and husband do consume a bit of soy including tofu (maybe 2x a month) and chocolate soy milk. However when we run out of the soy milk, she drinks rice milk with non-dairy chocolate syrup. I don't think you are missing anything by not including soy, but I do think that if you use non-GMO soy that it is healthy. - Dawn M. Vibeke Vale wrote: > > > Hmm.. we drink soy milk, eat tofu 1-2 times per week and eat edamame at > least twice per week. I used to cook with TVP all the time, but I've > reduced that. Because we don't consume dairy I feel it's important for > them > to drink soy milk that is fortified. > > On Mon, Apr 27, 2009 at 3:38 PM, Denise <deniseamay > <deniseamay%40>> wrote: > > > > > > > Hey everyone! > > > > I have been a vegetarian for almost 10 years now. I have two boys (age 3 > > and 17 months). I have been raising them lacto-ovo-vegetarian but don't > > include soy products. I've read too many conflicting reports on how > soy may > > actually be terrible for your health and just don't want to risk it. > > > > But now I'm worried that I may not be giving them a well balanced > veg diet > > if I'm excluding soy. Is anyone else out there raising vegetarian > kids and > > excluding soy?? Seems like most veg eat alot of soy. > > > > Any advice or thoughts would be GREATLY appreciated!!! > > > > THANK YOU!!!! > > Denise > > > > > > > > -- > Regards, > > Vibeke > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 28, 2009 Report Share Posted April 28, 2009 We're not soy-free but it's not a substantial part of our diet at all. I can't remember the last time I bought tofu. As Chandelle said, though, there is good soy and bad soy, with fermented, whole foods being the best. Also as she said, there is a lot of fear-mongering going on online in terms of soy, and you just have to use your best judgment. Of course as a parent, the radical anti-soy sentiment espoused by some can cause fear, but it's really not based in science. Further, the anti-soy folks are likely consuming quite a bit low-grade soy products through their consumption of animals. That said, if you decide to go soy-free, that shouldn't be hard at all as a vegetarian. Simply replace the soy with other plant-based protein options. Eating soy is certainly is not a requirement of the vegetarian diet! Marla > Hey everyone! > > I have been a vegetarian for almost 10 years now. I have two boys (age 3 and > 17 months). I have been raising them lacto-ovo-vegetarian but don't include > soy products. I've read too many conflicting reports on how soy may actually > be terrible for your health and just don't want to risk it. > > But now I'm worried that I may not be giving them a well balanced veg diet if > I'm excluding soy. Is anyone else out there raising vegetarian kids and > excluding soy?? Seems like most veg eat alot of soy. > > Any advice or thoughts would be GREATLY appreciated!!! > > THANK YOU!!!! > Denise > > > > --- > > For more information about vegetarianism, please visit the VRG website at > http://www.vrg.org and for materials especially useful for families go to > http://www.vrg.org/family.This is a discussion list and is not intended to > provide personal medical advice. Medical advice should be obtained from a > qualified health professional. > > edical advice. Medical advice should be obtained from a qualified health > professional. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 28, 2009 Report Share Posted April 28, 2009 PCRM has a great article on food based calcium: http://www.pcrm.org/health/prevmed/strong_bones.html --- On Mon, 4/27/09, Vibeke Vale <vibekevale wrote: Vibeke Vale <vibekevale Re: Anyone raising veg kids without Soy? Monday, April 27, 2009, 6:25 PM Hmm.. we drink soy milk, eat tofu 1-2 times per week and eat edamame at least twice per week. I used to cook with TVP all the time, but I've reduced that. Because we don't consume dairy I feel it's important for them to drink soy milk that is fortified. On Mon, Apr 27, 2009 at 3:38 PM, Denise <deniseamay > wrote: > > > Hey everyone! > > I have been a vegetarian for almost 10 years now. I have two boys (age 3 > and 17 months). I have been raising them lacto-ovo-vegetaria n but don't > include soy products. I've read too many conflicting reports on how soy may > actually be terrible for your health and just don't want to risk it. > > But now I'm worried that I may not be giving them a well balanced veg diet > if I'm excluding soy. Is anyone else out there raising vegetarian kids and > excluding soy?? Seems like most veg eat alot of soy. > > Any advice or thoughts would be GREATLY appreciated! !! > > THANK YOU!!!! > Denise > > > -- Regards, Vibeke Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 28, 2009 Report Share Posted April 28, 2009 Thanks for this! On Mon, Apr 27, 2009 at 9:05 PM, robin koloms <rkoloms wrote: > > > PCRM has a great article on food based calcium: > http://www.pcrm.org/health/prevmed/strong_bones.html > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 28, 2009 Report Share Posted April 28, 2009 Thanks everyone! Yes, I guess I am worried about the protein factor. I think they get a good amount from nuts, seeds, eggs, cheese and grains but I was worried that wasn't enough so I thought about soy. They won't eat beans which totally sucks since they are so packed with protein! I haven't found any pediatricians that are knowledgeable in vegetarianism so it's been tricky figuring this all out on my own. I've read some books but for some reason still feel puzzled. I agree that whole soy would be best (tofu, edame) - I appreciate all your replies! I feel better about my choices. God bless! --- On Mon, 4/27/09, Linda Evans <veganlinda wrote: Linda Evans <veganlinda Re: Anyone raising veg kids without Soy? Monday, April 27, 2009, 4:47 PM We aren't soy free, but you can certainly have a complete diet vegan or not without eating soy. Is there a reason you think your family is missing something? What do you think they are missing? Have you talked with a veg-friendly dietitian and/or kept a food diary? I wouldn't say that most veg eat more soy than the general public. A lot of the omnis I know eat quite a bit of soy (they may not realize it). When I was vegetarian I ate very little tofu, tempeh, miso, edamame, but I'm sure I was eating soy in processed foods. :-) Linda A Marketplace for a Better World (Cruelty-free, Environmentally- Conscious, and Fair Labor Products) http://triballife. net/ http://triballifein c.blogspot. com/ My personal blogs: http://veganlinda. blogspot. com/ http://cucarfree. blogspot. com/ ____________ _________ _________ __ Denise <deniseamay> @gro ups.com Monday, April 27, 2009 3:38:02 PM Anyone raising veg kids without Soy? Hey everyone! I have been a vegetarian for almost 10 years now. I have two boys (age 3 and 17 months). I have been raising them lacto-ovo-vegetaria n but don't include soy products. I've read too many conflicting reports on how soy may actually be terrible for your health and just don't want to risk it. But now I'm worried that I may not be giving them a well balanced veg diet if I'm excluding soy. Is anyone else out there raising vegetarian kids and excluding soy?? Seems like most veg eat alot of soy. Any advice or thoughts would be GREATLY appreciated! !! THANK YOU!!!! Denise Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 28, 2009 Report Share Posted April 28, 2009 Hi Denise, Please don't think that I am being rude, but I have never heard of child who will not eat beans. What do you do with them? We have burritos at least once a week (black beans and sweet potato); love black bean soup and chili (eat weekly in the winter); taco salads in the summer; stews with veggies and beans (I need to think about what to throw in the crockpot for dinner). Robin --- On Tue, 4/28/09, Denise Turner <deniseamay wrote: Denise Turner <deniseamay Re: Anyone raising veg kids without Soy? Tuesday, April 28, 2009, 10:07 AM Thanks everyone! Yes, I guess I am worried about the protein factor. I think they get a good amount from nuts, seeds, eggs, cheese and grains but I was worried that wasn't enough so I thought about soy. They won't eat beans which totally sucks since they are so packed with protein! I haven't found any pediatricians that are knowledgeable in vegetarianism so it's been tricky figuring this all out on my own. I've read some books but for some reason still feel puzzled. I agree that whole soy would be best (tofu, edame) - I appreciate all your replies! I feel better about my choices. God bless! --- On Mon, 4/27/09, Linda Evans <veganlinda > wrote: Linda Evans <veganlinda > Re: Anyone raising veg kids without Soy? @gro ups.com Monday, April 27, 2009, 4:47 PM We aren't soy free, but you can certainly have a complete diet vegan or not without eating soy. Is there a reason you think your family is missing something? What do you think they are missing? Have you talked with a veg-friendly dietitian and/or kept a food diary? I wouldn't say that most veg eat more soy than the general public. A lot of the omnis I know eat quite a bit of soy (they may not realize it). When I was vegetarian I ate very little tofu, tempeh, miso, edamame, but I'm sure I was eating soy in processed foods. :-) Linda A Marketplace for a Better World (Cruelty-free, Environmentally- Conscious, and Fair Labor Products) http://triballife. net/ http://triballifein c.blogspot. com/ My personal blogs: http://veganlinda. blogspot. com/ http://cucarfree. blogspot. com/ ____________ _________ _________ __ Denise <deniseamay> @gro ups.com Monday, April 27, 2009 3:38:02 PM Anyone raising veg kids without Soy? Hey everyone! I have been a vegetarian for almost 10 years now. I have two boys (age 3 and 17 months). I have been raising them lacto-ovo-vegetaria n but don't include soy products. I've read too many conflicting reports on how soy may actually be terrible for your health and just don't want to risk it. But now I'm worried that I may not be giving them a well balanced veg diet if I'm excluding soy. Is anyone else out there raising vegetarian kids and excluding soy?? Seems like most veg eat alot of soy. Any advice or thoughts would be GREATLY appreciated! !! THANK YOU!!!! Denise Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 28, 2009 Report Share Posted April 28, 2009 Hey Robin! I am so serious...my kids will NOT eat beans. If they can see the beans they will pick them out or totally refuse to eat. I've tried smashing the beans and mixing it into other foods...they will taste it and spit it out.. Sometimes my 17 month old with eat lentils if I mix it in with a grain but my 3 year old will not eat it at all. If anyone has tips please share! I keep offering the beans and I'm hoping it's something they will outgrow. Thanks! - Denise --- On Tue, 4/28/09, robin koloms <rkoloms wrote: robin koloms <rkoloms Re: Anyone raising veg kids without Soy? Tuesday, April 28, 2009, 12:57 PM Hi Denise, Please don't think that I am being rude, but I have never heard of child who will not eat beans. What do you do with them? We have burritos at least once a week (black beans and sweet potato); love black bean soup and chili (eat weekly in the winter); taco salads in the summer; stews with veggies and beans (I need to think about what to throw in the crockpot for dinner).. Robin --- On Tue, 4/28/09, Denise Turner <deniseamay > wrote: Denise Turner <deniseamay > Re: Anyone raising veg kids without Soy? @gro ups.com Tuesday, April 28, 2009, 10:07 AM Thanks everyone! Yes, I guess I am worried about the protein factor. I think they get a good amount from nuts, seeds, eggs, cheese and grains but I was worried that wasn't enough so I thought about soy. They won't eat beans which totally sucks since they are so packed with protein! I haven't found any pediatricians that are knowledgeable in vegetarianism so it's been tricky figuring this all out on my own. I've read some books but for some reason still feel puzzled. I agree that whole soy would be best (tofu, edame) - I appreciate all your replies! I feel better about my choices. God bless! --- On Mon, 4/27/09, Linda Evans <veganlinda> wrote: Linda Evans <veganlinda> Re: Anyone raising veg kids without Soy? @gro ups.com Monday, April 27, 2009, 4:47 PM We aren't soy free, but you can certainly have a complete diet vegan or not without eating soy. Is there a reason you think your family is missing something? What do you think they are missing? Have you talked with a veg-friendly dietitian and/or kept a food diary? I wouldn't say that most veg eat more soy than the general public. A lot of the omnis I know eat quite a bit of soy (they may not realize it). When I was vegetarian I ate very little tofu, tempeh, miso, edamame, but I'm sure I was eating soy in processed foods. :-) Linda A Marketplace for a Better World (Cruelty-free, Environmentally- Conscious, and Fair Labor Products) http://triballife. net/ http://triballifein c.blogspot. com/ My personal blogs: http://veganlinda. blogspot. com/ http://cucarfree. blogspot. com/ ____________ _________ _________ __ Denise <deniseamay> @gro ups.com Monday, April 27, 2009 3:38:02 PM Anyone raising veg kids without Soy? Hey everyone! I have been a vegetarian for almost 10 years now. I have two boys (age 3 and 17 months). I have been raising them lacto-ovo-vegetaria n but don't include soy products. I've read too many conflicting reports on how soy may actually be terrible for your health and just don't want to risk it. But now I'm worried that I may not be giving them a well balanced veg diet if I'm excluding soy. Is anyone else out there raising vegetarian kids and excluding soy?? Seems like most veg eat alot of soy. Any advice or thoughts would be GREATLY appreciated! !! THANK YOU!!!! Denise Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 28, 2009 Report Share Posted April 28, 2009 Sorry, I can't think of anything other than keep offering them. I suppose you could liquify them in a blender and throw them in sauces and soups. --- On Tue, 4/28/09, Denise Turner <deniseamay wrote: Denise Turner <deniseamay Re: Anyone raising veg kids without Soy? Tuesday, April 28, 2009, 2:00 PM Hey Robin! I am so serious...my kids will NOT eat beans. If they can see the beans they will pick them out or totally refuse to eat. I've tried smashing the beans and mixing it into other foods...they will taste it and spit it out.. Sometimes my 17 month old with eat lentils if I mix it in with a grain but my 3 year old will not eat it at all. If anyone has tips please share! I keep offering the beans and I'm hoping it's something they will outgrow. Thanks! - Denise --- On Tue, 4/28/09, robin koloms <rkoloms > wrote: robin koloms <rkoloms > Re: Anyone raising veg kids without Soy? @gro ups.com Tuesday, April 28, 2009, 12:57 PM Hi Denise, Please don't think that I am being rude, but I have never heard of child who will not eat beans. What do you do with them? We have burritos at least once a week (black beans and sweet potato); love black bean soup and chili (eat weekly in the winter); taco salads in the summer; stews with veggies and beans (I need to think about what to throw in the crockpot for dinner).. Robin --- On Tue, 4/28/09, Denise Turner <deniseamay> wrote: Denise Turner <deniseamay> Re: Anyone raising veg kids without Soy? @gro ups.com Tuesday, April 28, 2009, 10:07 AM Thanks everyone! Yes, I guess I am worried about the protein factor. I think they get a good amount from nuts, seeds, eggs, cheese and grains but I was worried that wasn't enough so I thought about soy. They won't eat beans which totally sucks since they are so packed with protein! I haven't found any pediatricians that are knowledgeable in vegetarianism so it's been tricky figuring this all out on my own. I've read some books but for some reason still feel puzzled. I agree that whole soy would be best (tofu, edame) - I appreciate all your replies! I feel better about my choices. God bless! --- On Mon, 4/27/09, Linda Evans <veganlinda> wrote: Linda Evans <veganlinda> Re: Anyone raising veg kids without Soy? @gro ups.com Monday, April 27, 2009, 4:47 PM We aren't soy free, but you can certainly have a complete diet vegan or not without eating soy. Is there a reason you think your family is missing something? What do you think they are missing? Have you talked with a veg-friendly dietitian and/or kept a food diary? I wouldn't say that most veg eat more soy than the general public. A lot of the omnis I know eat quite a bit of soy (they may not realize it). When I was vegetarian I ate very little tofu, tempeh, miso, edamame, but I'm sure I was eating soy in processed foods. :-) Linda A Marketplace for a Better World (Cruelty-free, Environmentally- Conscious, and Fair Labor Products) http://triballife. net/ http://triballifein c.blogspot. com/ My personal blogs: http://veganlinda. blogspot. com/ http://cucarfree. blogspot. com/ ____________ _________ _________ __ Denise <deniseamay> @gro ups.com Monday, April 27, 2009 3:38:02 PM Anyone raising veg kids without Soy? Hey everyone! I have been a vegetarian for almost 10 years now. I have two boys (age 3 and 17 months). I have been raising them lacto-ovo-vegetaria n but don't include soy products. I've read too many conflicting reports on how soy may actually be terrible for your health and just don't want to risk it. But now I'm worried that I may not be giving them a well balanced veg diet if I'm excluding soy. Is anyone else out there raising vegetarian kids and excluding soy?? Seems like most veg eat alot of soy. Any advice or thoughts would be GREATLY appreciated! !! THANK YOU!!!! Denise Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 28, 2009 Report Share Posted April 28, 2009 Hi Denise, I feel so bad for you, we are vegan and my kids eat beans almost every day in one form or another! I don't know what I would do if they didn't like them!! How about trying to make some sort of hummus or bean dip so they can dip chips in it and it might be fun for them that way! My kids love that as a snack and sometimes it even becomes lunch!! The organic corn chips are their favorite, you could even put the dip on a sandwich as a spread, maybe mix it up with a little veganaise so it's not so beany tasting....good luck!! Anna Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry Denise Turner <deniseamay Tue, 28 Apr 2009 12:00:00 Re: Anyone raising veg kids without Soy? Hey Robin! I am so serious...my kids will NOT eat beans. If they can see the beans they will pick them out or totally refuse to eat. I've tried smashing the beans and mixing it into other foods...they will taste it and spit it out.. Sometimes my 17 month old with eat lentils if I mix it in with a grain but my 3 year old will not eat it at all. If anyone has tips please share! I keep offering the beans and I'm hoping it's something they will outgrow. Thanks! - Denise --- On Tue, 4/28/09, robin koloms <rkoloms wrote: robin koloms <rkoloms Re: Anyone raising veg kids without Soy? Tuesday, April 28, 2009, 12:57 PM Hi Denise, Please don't think that I am being rude, but I have never heard of child who will not eat beans. What do you do with them? We have burritos at least once a week (black beans and sweet potato); love black bean soup and chili (eat weekly in the winter); taco salads in the summer; stews with veggies and beans (I need to think about what to throw in the crockpot for dinner).. Robin --- On Tue, 4/28/09, Denise Turner <deniseamay > wrote: Denise Turner <deniseamay > Re: Anyone raising veg kids without Soy? @gro ups.com Tuesday, April 28, 2009, 10:07 AM Thanks everyone! Yes, I guess I am worried about the protein factor. I think they get a good amount from nuts, seeds, eggs, cheese and grains but I was worried that wasn't enough so I thought about soy. They won't eat beans which totally sucks since they are so packed with protein! I haven't found any pediatricians that are knowledgeable in vegetarianism so it's been tricky figuring this all out on my own. I've read some books but for some reason still feel puzzled. I agree that whole soy would be best (tofu, edame) - I appreciate all your replies! I feel better about my choices. God bless! --- On Mon, 4/27/09, Linda Evans <veganlinda> wrote: Linda Evans <veganlinda> Re: Anyone raising veg kids without Soy? @gro ups.com Monday, April 27, 2009, 4:47 PM We aren't soy free, but you can certainly have a complete diet vegan or not without eating soy. Is there a reason you think your family is missing something? What do you think they are missing? Have you talked with a veg-friendly dietitian and/or kept a food diary? I wouldn't say that most veg eat more soy than the general public. A lot of the omnis I know eat quite a bit of soy (they may not realize it). When I was vegetarian I ate very little tofu, tempeh, miso, edamame, but I'm sure I was eating soy in processed foods. :-) Linda A Marketplace for a Better World (Cruelty-free, Environmentally- Conscious, and Fair Labor Products) http://triballife. net/ http://triballifein c.blogspot. com/ My personal blogs: http://veganlinda. blogspot. com/ http://cucarfree. blogspot. com/ ________________________________ Denise <deniseamay> @gro ups.com Monday, April 27, 2009 3:38:02 PM Anyone raising veg kids without Soy? Hey everyone! I have been a vegetarian for almost 10 years now. I have two boys (age 3 and 17 months). I have been raising them lacto-ovo-vegetaria n but don't include soy products. I've read too many conflicting reports on how soy may actually be terrible for your health and just don't want to risk it. But now I'm worried that I may not be giving them a well balanced veg diet if I'm excluding soy. Is anyone else out there raising vegetarian kids and excluding soy?? Seems like most veg eat alot of soy. Any advice or thoughts would be GREATLY appreciated! !! THANK YOU!!!! Denise Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 28, 2009 Report Share Posted April 28, 2009 A friend of mine has the same thing with her two boys. I think the younger one learned it from the other. Hummus doesn't work, huh? I would be lost without beans. M > Hey Robin! > I am so serious...my kids will NOT eat beans. If they can see the beans they > will pick them out or totally refuse to eat. I've tried smashing the beans > and mixing it into other foods...they will taste it and spit it out.. > Sometimes my 17 month old with eat lentils if I mix it in with a grain but my > 3 year old will not eat it at all. > > If anyone has tips please share! I keep offering the beans and I'm hoping > it's something they will outgrow. > > Thanks! > - Denise > > --- On Tue, 4/28/09, robin koloms <rkoloms wrote: > > robin koloms <rkoloms > Re: Anyone raising veg kids without Soy? > > Tuesday, April 28, 2009, 12:57 PM > > > > > > > > > > > Hi Denise, > > > > Please don't think that I am being rude, but I have never heard of child who > will not eat beans. What do you do with them? We have burritos at least once a > week (black beans and sweet potato); love black bean soup and chili (eat > weekly in the winter); taco salads in the summer; stews with veggies and beans > (I need to think about what to throw in the crockpot for dinner).. > > > > Robin > > > > --- On Tue, 4/28/09, Denise Turner <deniseamay > wrote: > > > > Denise Turner <deniseamay > > > Re: Anyone raising veg kids without Soy? > > @gro ups.com > > Tuesday, April 28, 2009, 10:07 AM > > > > Thanks everyone! Yes, I guess I am worried about the protein factor. I > think they get a good amount from nuts, seeds, eggs, cheese and grains but I > was worried that wasn't enough so I thought about soy. They won't eat beans > which totally sucks since they are so packed with protein! > > > > I haven't found any pediatricians that are knowledgeable in vegetarianism so > it's been tricky figuring this all out on my own. I've read some books but > for some reason still feel puzzled. > > > > I agree that whole soy would be best (tofu, edame) - I appreciate all your > replies! I feel better about my choices. > > > > God bless! > > > > --- On Mon, 4/27/09, Linda Evans <veganlinda> wrote: > > > > Linda Evans <veganlinda> > > Re: Anyone raising veg kids without Soy? > > @gro ups.com > > Monday, April 27, 2009, 4:47 PM > > > > We aren't soy free, but you can certainly have a complete diet vegan or not > without eating soy. Is there a reason you think your family is missing > something? What do you think they are missing? Have you talked with a > veg-friendly dietitian and/or kept a food diary? > > > > I wouldn't say that most veg eat more soy than the general public. A lot of > the omnis I know eat quite a bit of soy (they may not realize it). When I was > vegetarian I ate very little tofu, tempeh, miso, edamame, but I'm sure I was > eating soy in processed foods. :-) > > > > Linda > > > > A Marketplace for a Better World (Cruelty-free, Environmentally- Conscious, > and Fair Labor Products) > > > > http://triballife. net/ > > > > http://triballifein c.blogspot. com/ > > > > My personal blogs: > > > > http://veganlinda. blogspot. com/ > > > > http://cucarfree. blogspot. com/ > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > > Denise <deniseamay> > > > > @gro ups.com > > > > Monday, April 27, 2009 3:38:02 PM > > > > Anyone raising veg kids without Soy? > > > > Hey everyone! > > > > I have been a vegetarian for almost 10 years now. I have two boys (age 3 and > 17 months). I have been raising them lacto-ovo-vegetaria n but don't include > soy products. I've read too many conflicting reports on how soy may actually > be terrible for your health and just don't want to risk it. > > > > But now I'm worried that I may not be giving them a well balanced veg diet if > I'm excluding soy. Is anyone else out there raising vegetarian kids and > excluding soy?? Seems like most veg eat alot of soy. > > > > Any advice or thoughts would be GREATLY appreciated! !! > > > > THANK YOU!!!! > > > > Denise > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 28, 2009 Report Share Posted April 28, 2009 Bean Flour Bean flour is one great way to put your beans or other legumes to use. Bean flour can be added to any recipe calling for wheat flour. Replace up to 1/4 of the total amount of wheat flour with bean flour. Super nutrition can be added to any commercial dry mix (cakes, cookies, muffins, breads) by adding a few tablespoons of bean flour to the dry ingredients, then adding extra liquid as necessary. Combining bean and wheat flours also helps form a complete protein for those cutting out or down on meat. The best part is that no one will ever know they’re eating beans! By adding bean flour to thicken gravies and sauces, you increase the nutrition and make your dishes virtually fat-free. Bean flour of any kind also makes an excellent " instant " creamy soup base. No more soaking, boiling, mashing, and blending those beans to make thick, creamy, rich-tasting soups. Simply grind some dry beans, add water, and cook for 3 minutes. Add your own pasta, vegetables, or other beans for a quick, healthy, homemade soup. These 3-minute soups can be made in the microwave or on the stove top. See the recipe section of this web site for more recipes that use beans. Grinding Tips To grind beans, first sort them and check for dirty beans or rock pieces. Place the mill in a kitchen sink and fill hopper with beans. Cover with kitchen towels to reduce bean dust, and leave a hole to stir beans as they go into the milling chamber. Small seeds like peas and lentils will not need to be stirred. Large beans like lima will need to be cracked in a blender or food grinder before grinding to a flour. Clean the sponge filter after each hopper of beans. Store flours in resealable plastic bags or other food storage containers and refrigerate or freeze if possible. Flours last about six months at room temperature. After that time, a bitter aftertaste may start to develop. Old beans which have been stored too long (usually over 10 years) will taste bitter whether they have been cooked whole or ground to a flour and made into soup.  Laura Ballinger Morales ________________________________ " annab9 " <annab9 Tuesday, April 28, 2009 3:25:05 PM Re: Anyone raising veg kids without Soy? Hi Denise, I feel so bad for you, we are vegan and my kids eat beans almost every day in one form or another! I don't know what I would do if they didn't like them!! How about trying to make some sort of hummus or bean dip so they can dip chips in it and it might be fun for them that way! My kids love that as a snack and sometimes it even becomes lunch!! The organic corn chips are their favorite, you could even put the dip on a sandwich as a spread, maybe mix it up with a little veganaise so it's not so beany tasting....good luck!! Anna Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry Denise Turner <deniseamay Tue, 28 Apr 2009 12:00:00 Re: Anyone raising veg kids without Soy? Hey Robin! I am so serious...my kids will NOT eat beans. If they can see the beans they will pick them out or totally refuse to eat. I've tried smashing the beans and mixing it into other foods...they will taste it and spit it out.. Sometimes my 17 month old with eat lentils if I mix it in with a grain but my 3 year old will not eat it at all. If anyone has tips please share! I keep offering the beans and I'm hoping it's something they will outgrow. Thanks! - Denise --- On Tue, 4/28/09, robin koloms <rkoloms wrote: robin koloms <rkoloms Re: Anyone raising veg kids without Soy? Tuesday, April 28, 2009, 12:57 PM                     Hi Denise,  Please don't think that I am being rude, but I have never heard of child who will not eat beans. What do you do with them? We have burritos at least once a week (black beans and sweet potato); love black bean soup and chili (eat weekly in the winter); taco salads in the summer; stews with veggies and beans (I need to think about what to throw in the crockpot for dinner)..  Robin --- On Tue, 4/28/09, Denise Turner <deniseamay > wrote: Denise Turner <deniseamay > Re: Anyone raising veg kids without Soy? @gro ups.com Tuesday, April 28, 2009, 10:07 AM Thanks everyone!  Yes, I guess I am worried about the protein factor. I think they get a good amount from nuts, seeds, eggs, cheese and grains but I was worried that wasn't enough so I thought about soy. They won't eat beans which totally sucks since they are so packed with protein! I haven't found any pediatricians that are knowledgeable in vegetarianism so it's been tricky figuring this all out on my own. I've read some books but for some reason still feel puzzled. I agree that whole soy would be best (tofu, edame) - I appreciate all your replies! I feel better about my choices. God bless! --- On Mon, 4/27/09, Linda Evans <veganlinda> wrote: Linda Evans <veganlinda> Re: Anyone raising veg kids without Soy? @gro ups.com Monday, April 27, 2009, 4:47 PM We aren't soy free, but you can certainly have a complete diet vegan or not without eating soy. Is there a reason you think your family is missing something? What do you think they are missing? Have you talked with a veg-friendly dietitian and/or kept a food diary? I wouldn't say that most veg eat more soy than the general public. A lot of the omnis I know eat quite a bit of soy (they may not realize it). When I was vegetarian I ate very little tofu, tempeh, miso, edamame, but I'm sure I was eating soy in processed foods. :-) Linda A Marketplace for a Better World (Cruelty-free, Environmentally- Conscious, and Fair Labor Products) http://triballife. net/ http://triballifein c.blogspot. com/ My personal blogs: http://veganlinda. blogspot. com/ http://cucarfree. blogspot. com/ ________________________________ Denise <deniseamay> @gro ups.com Monday, April 27, 2009 3:38:02 PM Anyone raising veg kids without Soy? Hey everyone! I have been a vegetarian for almost 10 years now. I have two boys (age 3 and 17 months). I have been raising them lacto-ovo-vegetaria n but don't include soy products. I've read too many conflicting reports on how soy may actually be terrible for your health and just don't want to risk it. But now I'm worried that I may not be giving them a well balanced veg diet if I'm excluding soy. Is anyone else out there raising vegetarian kids and excluding soy?? Seems like most veg eat alot of soy. Any advice or thoughts would be GREATLY appreciated! !! THANK YOU!!!! Denise Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 28, 2009 Report Share Posted April 28, 2009 White Bean Gravy with Soy Sausage (http://www.theppk.com/recipes/dbrecipes/index.php?RecipeID=119) Submitted by lisa prep time: 15 minutes (?) | cooking time: 4 hours | makes 6 cups...or whatev A couple of years ago, I worked in a vegan/organic restaurant in Asheville, NC. I used to work the brunch shift which featured a vegan Southern breakfast plate: biscuits, white gravy (w/ flour), seitan sausage, and collard greens. The plate was delicious, but there was too much wheat flour (3 out of 4 items), so I was determined to find a healthier alternative to the flour-based white gravy. That's when I came up with this recipe...it's excellent for drowning biscuits or for eating in a bowl with biscuits on the side. Equipment: 1- large pot for soaking/cooking beans 2- hand blender (the ones to puree soups) 3- large (10-12 " ) cast-iron pan Ingredients 2-3 Cups white navy beans or white kidney (cannellini) beans (can use canned!) 2 Tablespoon non-hydrogenated margarine [EarthBalance] 1 package of sausage-flavored GIMME LEAN 10-12 leaves of fresh sage, finely chopped black pepper sea salt vegetable broth (optional) Directions - Soak the beans in cold filtered water for 12 hours. change the water and cook the beans over low heat until beans are soft. - Use the hand blender to puree the beans. Add water or broth if necessary...if it is too watery, you can eventually cook off the water. - In the cast-iron pan, melt the EarthBalance. Crumble the GIMME LEAN and add it to the pan. continuously mix the crumbled sausage until most of it is golden brown. - Add the " sausage " to the bean gravy (with the fat too) and season with sea salt, black pepper, and sage. - Cook everything together for 10 minutes or until the desired consistency is achieved. Laura Ballinger Morales ________________________________ robin koloms <rkoloms Tuesday, April 28, 2009 3:18:13 PM Re: Anyone raising veg kids without Soy? Sorry, I can't think of anything other than keep offering them. I suppose you could liquify them in a blender and throw them in sauces and soups. --- On Tue, 4/28/09, Denise Turner <deniseamay > wrote: Denise Turner <deniseamay > Re: Anyone raising veg kids without Soy? @gro ups.com Tuesday, April 28, 2009, 2:00 PM Hey Robin! I am so serious...my kids will NOT eat beans. If they can see the beans they will pick them out or totally refuse to eat. I've tried smashing the beans and mixing it into other foods...they will taste it and spit it out.. Sometimes my 17 month old with eat lentils if I mix it in with a grain but my 3 year old will not eat it at all. If anyone has tips please share! I keep offering the beans and I'm hoping it's something they will outgrow. Thanks! - Denise --- On Tue, 4/28/09, robin koloms <rkoloms > wrote: robin koloms <rkoloms > Re: Anyone raising veg kids without Soy? @gro ups.com Tuesday, April 28, 2009, 12:57 PM Hi Denise, Please don't think that I am being rude, but I have never heard of child who will not eat beans. What do you do with them? We have burritos at least once a week (black beans and sweet potato); love black bean soup and chili (eat weekly in the winter); taco salads in the summer; stews with veggies and beans (I need to think about what to throw in the crockpot for dinner).. Robin --- On Tue, 4/28/09, Denise Turner <deniseamay> wrote: Denise Turner <deniseamay> Re: Anyone raising veg kids without Soy? @gro ups.com Tuesday, April 28, 2009, 10:07 AM Thanks everyone! Yes, I guess I am worried about the protein factor. I think they get a good amount from nuts, seeds, eggs, cheese and grains but I was worried that wasn't enough so I thought about soy. They won't eat beans which totally sucks since they are so packed with protein! I haven't found any pediatricians that are knowledgeable in vegetarianism so it's been tricky figuring this all out on my own. I've read some books but for some reason still feel puzzled. I agree that whole soy would be best (tofu, edame) - I appreciate all your replies! I feel better about my choices. God bless! --- On Mon, 4/27/09, Linda Evans <veganlinda> wrote: Linda Evans <veganlinda> Re: Anyone raising veg kids without Soy? @gro ups.com Monday, April 27, 2009, 4:47 PM We aren't soy free, but you can certainly have a complete diet vegan or not without eating soy. Is there a reason you think your family is missing something? What do you think they are missing? Have you talked with a veg-friendly dietitian and/or kept a food diary? I wouldn't say that most veg eat more soy than the general public. A lot of the omnis I know eat quite a bit of soy (they may not realize it). When I was vegetarian I ate very little tofu, tempeh, miso, edamame, but I'm sure I was eating soy in processed foods. :-) Linda A Marketplace for a Better World (Cruelty-free, Environmentally- Conscious, and Fair Labor Products) http://triballife. net/ http://triballifein c.blogspot. com/ My personal blogs: http://veganlinda. blogspot. com/ http://cucarfree. blogspot. com/ ____________ _________ _________ __ Denise <deniseamay> @gro ups.com Monday, April 27, 2009 3:38:02 PM Anyone raising veg kids without Soy? Hey everyone! I have been a vegetarian for almost 10 years now. I have two boys (age 3 and 17 months). I have been raising them lacto-ovo-vegetaria n but don't include soy products. I've read too many conflicting reports on how soy may actually be terrible for your health and just don't want to risk it. But now I'm worried that I may not be giving them a well balanced veg diet if I'm excluding soy. Is anyone else out there raising vegetarian kids and excluding soy?? Seems like most veg eat alot of soy. Any advice or thoughts would be GREATLY appreciated! !! THANK YOU!!!! Denise Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 28, 2009 Report Share Posted April 28, 2009 Instead of using tofu, try substituting an equal amount of drained canned white beans for the nuts. http://shmooedfood.blogspot.com/2006/10/nacho-cheese-dip.html Nacho Cheese Dip My good friend Linda shared this fantastic recipe with me. We were all delighted by this creamy, cheesy nacho dip; pour it on tortilla chips, tacos, and burritos, or serve it as a warm dip with carrots, celery, and bell pepper strips. We believe the recipe is adapted from Something To Shout About (follow link and scroll down) by Donna Green-Goodman. The book chronicles her recovery from aggressive breast cancer by following a healthy, plant-based diet. makes about 2 cups 2 cups water ¼ cup raw cashews One 4 oz. jar pimentos, drained 1 cup nutritional yeast flakes 2 tablespoons cornstarch 1 tablespoon fresh lemon juice 1 ½ teaspoons salt, or to taste ½ teaspoon onion powder ¼ teaspoon garlic powder ½ teaspoon cumin, heaping Combine all ingredients in a Vita-Mix or other blender and blend until completely smooth. Transfer mixture to a medium saucepan and whisk constantly over medium heat until thickened, about 5 to 6 minutes. Serve as a dip with tortilla chips and vegetables. Variations: Add some vegetarian burger crumbles, black olives, or salsa. Laura Ballinger Morales ________________________________ robin koloms <rkoloms Tuesday, April 28, 2009 3:18:13 PM Re: Anyone raising veg kids without Soy? Sorry, I can't think of anything other than keep offering them. I suppose you could liquify them in a blender and throw them in sauces and soups. --- On Tue, 4/28/09, Denise Turner <deniseamay > wrote: Denise Turner <deniseamay > Re: Anyone raising veg kids without Soy? @gro ups.com Tuesday, April 28, 2009, 2:00 PM Hey Robin! I am so serious...my kids will NOT eat beans. If they can see the beans they will pick them out or totally refuse to eat. I've tried smashing the beans and mixing it into other foods...they will taste it and spit it out.. Sometimes my 17 month old with eat lentils if I mix it in with a grain but my 3 year old will not eat it at all. If anyone has tips please share! I keep offering the beans and I'm hoping it's something they will outgrow. Thanks! - Denise --- On Tue, 4/28/09, robin koloms <rkoloms > wrote: robin koloms <rkoloms > Re: Anyone raising veg kids without Soy? @gro ups.com Tuesday, April 28, 2009, 12:57 PM Hi Denise, Please don't think that I am being rude, but I have never heard of child who will not eat beans. What do you do with them? We have burritos at least once a week (black beans and sweet potato); love black bean soup and chili (eat weekly in the winter); taco salads in the summer; stews with veggies and beans (I need to think about what to throw in the crockpot for dinner).. Robin --- On Tue, 4/28/09, Denise Turner <deniseamay> wrote: Denise Turner <deniseamay> Re: Anyone raising veg kids without Soy? @gro ups.com Tuesday, April 28, 2009, 10:07 AM Thanks everyone! Yes, I guess I am worried about the protein factor. I think they get a good amount from nuts, seeds, eggs, cheese and grains but I was worried that wasn't enough so I thought about soy. They won't eat beans which totally sucks since they are so packed with protein! I haven't found any pediatricians that are knowledgeable in vegetarianism so it's been tricky figuring this all out on my own. I've read some books but for some reason still feel puzzled. I agree that whole soy would be best (tofu, edame) - I appreciate all your replies! I feel better about my choices. God bless! --- On Mon, 4/27/09, Linda Evans <veganlinda> wrote: Linda Evans <veganlinda> Re: Anyone raising veg kids without Soy? @gro ups.com Monday, April 27, 2009, 4:47 PM We aren't soy free, but you can certainly have a complete diet vegan or not without eating soy. Is there a reason you think your family is missing something? What do you think they are missing? Have you talked with a veg-friendly dietitian and/or kept a food diary? I wouldn't say that most veg eat more soy than the general public. A lot of the omnis I know eat quite a bit of soy (they may not realize it). When I was vegetarian I ate very little tofu, tempeh, miso, edamame, but I'm sure I was eating soy in processed foods. :-) Linda A Marketplace for a Better World (Cruelty-free, Environmentally- Conscious, and Fair Labor Products) http://triballife. net/ http://triballifein c.blogspot. com/ My personal blogs: http://veganlinda. blogspot. com/ http://cucarfree. blogspot. com/ ____________ _________ _________ __ Denise <deniseamay> @gro ups.com Monday, April 27, 2009 3:38:02 PM Anyone raising veg kids without Soy? Hey everyone! I have been a vegetarian for almost 10 years now. I have two boys (age 3 and 17 months). I have been raising them lacto-ovo-vegetaria n but don't include soy products. I've read too many conflicting reports on how soy may actually be terrible for your health and just don't want to risk it. But now I'm worried that I may not be giving them a well balanced veg diet if I'm excluding soy. Is anyone else out there raising vegetarian kids and excluding soy?? Seems like most veg eat alot of soy. Any advice or thoughts would be GREATLY appreciated! !! THANK YOU!!!! Denise Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 29, 2009 Report Share Posted April 29, 2009 Hi- I totally believe that your kids will not eat beans. I know about 5 kids off of the top of my head that won't touch 'em. For some I think it's a texture thing, regardless how they're prepared.. Who knows. All the ideas were great, though- especially the cake! j. ________________________________ Denise Turner <deniseamay Tuesday, April 28, 2009 2:00:00 PM Re: Anyone raising veg kids without Soy? Hey Robin! I am so serious...my kids will NOT eat beans. If they can see the beans they will pick them out or totally refuse to eat. I've tried smashing the beans and mixing it into other foods...they will taste it and spit it out.. Sometimes my 17 month old with eat lentils if I mix it in with a grain but my 3 year old will not eat it at all. If anyone has tips please share! I keep offering the beans and I'm hoping it's something they will outgrow. Thanks! - Denise --- On Tue, 4/28/09, robin koloms <rkoloms > wrote: robin koloms <rkoloms > Re: Anyone raising veg kids without Soy? @gro ups.com Tuesday, April 28, 2009, 12:57 PM Hi Denise, Please don't think that I am being rude, but I have never heard of child who will not eat beans. What do you do with them? We have burritos at least once a week (black beans and sweet potato); love black bean soup and chili (eat weekly in the winter); taco salads in the summer; stews with veggies and beans (I need to think about what to throw in the crockpot for dinner).. Robin --- On Tue, 4/28/09, Denise Turner <deniseamay> wrote: Denise Turner <deniseamay> Re: Anyone raising veg kids without Soy? @gro ups.com Tuesday, April 28, 2009, 10:07 AM Thanks everyone! Yes, I guess I am worried about the protein factor. I think they get a good amount from nuts, seeds, eggs, cheese and grains but I was worried that wasn't enough so I thought about soy. They won't eat beans which totally sucks since they are so packed with protein! I haven't found any pediatricians that are knowledgeable in vegetarianism so it's been tricky figuring this all out on my own. I've read some books but for some reason still feel puzzled. I agree that whole soy would be best (tofu, edame) - I appreciate all your replies! I feel better about my choices. God bless! --- On Mon, 4/27/09, Linda Evans <veganlinda> wrote: Linda Evans <veganlinda> Re: Anyone raising veg kids without Soy? @gro ups.com Monday, April 27, 2009, 4:47 PM We aren't soy free, but you can certainly have a complete diet vegan or not without eating soy. Is there a reason you think your family is missing something? What do you think they are missing? Have you talked with a veg-friendly dietitian and/or kept a food diary? I wouldn't say that most veg eat more soy than the general public. A lot of the omnis I know eat quite a bit of soy (they may not realize it). When I was vegetarian I ate very little tofu, tempeh, miso, edamame, but I'm sure I was eating soy in processed foods. :-) Linda A Marketplace for a Better World (Cruelty-free, Environmentally- Conscious, and Fair Labor Products) http://triballife. net/ http://triballifein c.blogspot. com/ My personal blogs: http://veganlinda. blogspot. com/ http://cucarfree. blogspot. com/ ____________ _________ _________ __ Denise <deniseamay> @gro ups.com Monday, April 27, 2009 3:38:02 PM Anyone raising veg kids without Soy? Hey everyone! I have been a vegetarian for almost 10 years now. I have two boys (age 3 and 17 months). I have been raising them lacto-ovo-vegetaria n but don't include soy products. I've read too many conflicting reports on how soy may actually be terrible for your health and just don't want to risk it. But now I'm worried that I may not be giving them a well balanced veg diet if I'm excluding soy. Is anyone else out there raising vegetarian kids and excluding soy?? Seems like most veg eat alot of soy. Any advice or thoughts would be GREATLY appreciated! !! THANK YOU!!!! Denise Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 29, 2009 Report Share Posted April 29, 2009 emaril lagassi has a cool recipe for fries make of chick pea flour. if you go to the emeril green website its in the archive. they are awesome. i also have a cool cookie recipe using chick peas. jerry sienfelds wife has a cook book called deciptively delicous where she teaches parents how to hide super foods such as beans, beats, squash, broccoli etc in things like pancakes, pizza, cookies, nuffins. never tell your child until after theyv'e eatin someting several times and video them eating it happily to refer back to it once you tell them. if you gave me a day or two i will go through the book and post a couple recipes. check your library for it in the meantime. unita ________________________________ Angela <angel.nail " " Wednesday, April 29, 2009 5:33:14 PM Re: Anyone raising veg kids without Soy? Wow what a bother! The dip thing sounds good, I also make a spag bol with red beans mashed up beyond recognition! The flavors of the sauce would hide the beans well. As for soy, I must admit that I eat a fair bit of it and my 2 yr old has a bit too but we are working on using more beans. I wonder if the bean thing is now just stubborness? Could you try making a dish with beans mashed up and make treat like and see if they eat it. Or maybe make a cake from chick pea flour and when they eat it say that it was made from beans. Might change their perception of beans a bit! Best of luck Ange On 29/04/2009, at 5:27 AM, Marla Rose <marla (AT) veganstreet (DOT) com> wrote: > > > A friend of mine has the same thing with her two boys. I think the > younger > one learned it from the other. Hummus doesn't work, huh? I would be > lost > without beans. > > M > > > Hey Robin! > > I am so serious...my kids will NOT eat beans. If they can see the > beans they > > will pick them out or totally refuse to eat. I've tried smashing > the beans > > and mixing it into other foods...they will taste it and spit it > out.. > > Sometimes my 17 month old with eat lentils if I mix it in with a > grain but my > > 3 year old will not eat it at all. > > > > If anyone has tips please share! I keep offering the beans and > I'm hoping > > it's something they will outgrow. > > > > Thanks! > > - Denise > > > > --- On Tue, 4/28/09, robin koloms <rkoloms > wrote: > > > > robin koloms <rkoloms > > > Re: Anyone raising veg kids without Soy? > > @gro ups.com > > Tuesday, April 28, 2009, 12:57 PM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi Denise, > > > > > > > > Please don't think that I am being rude, but I have never heard of > child who > > will not eat beans. What do you do with them? We have burritos at > least once a > > week (black beans and sweet potato); love black bean soup and > chili (eat > > weekly in the winter); taco salads in the summer; stews with > veggies and beans > > (I need to think about what to throw in the crockpot for dinner).. > > > > > > > > Robin > > > > > > > > --- On Tue, 4/28/09, Denise Turner <deniseamay> wrote: > > > > > > > > Denise Turner <deniseamay> > > > > Re: Anyone raising veg kids without Soy? > > > > @gro ups.com > > > > Tuesday, April 28, 2009, 10:07 AM > > > > > > > > Thanks everyone! Yes, I guess I am worried about the protein > factor. I > > think they get a good amount from nuts, seeds, eggs, cheese and > grains but I > > was worried that wasn't enough so I thought about soy. They won't > eat beans > > which totally sucks since they are so packed with protein! > > > > > > > > I haven't found any pediatricians that are knowledgeable in > vegetarianism so > > it's been tricky figuring this all out on my own. I've read some > books but > > for some reason still feel puzzled. > > > > > > > > I agree that whole soy would be best (tofu, edame) - I appreciate > all your > > replies! I feel better about my choices. > > > > > > > > God bless! > > > > > > > > --- On Mon, 4/27/09, Linda Evans <veganlinda> wrote: > > > > > > > > Linda Evans <veganlinda> > > > > Re: Anyone raising veg kids without Soy? > > > > @gro ups.com > > > > Monday, April 27, 2009, 4:47 PM > > > > > > > > We aren't soy free, but you can certainly have a complete diet > vegan or not > > without eating soy. Is there a reason you think your family is > missing > > something? What do you think they are missing? Have you talked > with a > > veg-friendly dietitian and/or kept a food diary? > > > > > > > > I wouldn't say that most veg eat more soy than the general public. > A lot of > > the omnis I know eat quite a bit of soy (they may not realize it). > When I was > > vegetarian I ate very little tofu, tempeh, miso, edamame, but I'm > sure I was > > eating soy in processed foods. :-) > > > > > > > > Linda > > > > > > > > A Marketplace for a Better World (Cruelty-free, Environmentally- > Conscious, > > and Fair Labor Products) > > > > > > > > http://triballife. net/ > > > > > > > > http://triballifein c.blogspot. com/ > > > > > > > > My personal blogs: > > > > > > > > http://veganlinda. blogspot. com/ > > > > > > > > http://cucarfree. blogspot. com/ > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > > > > > > Denise <deniseamay> > > > > > > > > @gro ups.com > > > > > > > > Monday, April 27, 2009 3:38:02 PM > > > > > > > > Anyone raising veg kids without Soy? > > > > > > > > Hey everyone! > > > > > > > > I have been a vegetarian for almost 10 years now. I have two boys > (age 3 and > > 17 months). I have been raising them lacto-ovo-vegetaria n but > don't include > > soy products. I've read too many conflicting reports on how soy > may actually > > be terrible for your health and just don't want to risk it. > > > > > > > > But now I'm worried that I may not be giving them a well balanced > veg diet if > > I'm excluding soy. Is anyone else out there raising vegetarian > kids and > > excluding soy?? Seems like most veg eat alot of soy. > > > > > > > > Any advice or thoughts would be GREATLY appreciated! !! > > > > > > > > THANK YOU!!!! > > > > > > > > Denise > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 29, 2009 Report Share Posted April 29, 2009 There was also a great article in Mothering magazine about soy. It talked a lot about babies getting totally bombarded by soy formula. Worth reading. I am vegan and have been mostly soy free for 3 years. Discovered my sensitivity when trying to get to the bottom of my youngest's eczema (and mine). I don't eat any soy at home. I've found it is virtually impossible to avoid when eating out though. So, when we are on vacation I go on a " soy holiday " and then pay the price in sleepless nights afterwards. I have 4 vegan boys but they were all nursed exclusively for at least 6 months and for at least 2 if not 3 years. They do eat soy (enriched soy milk) and I'll admit to using some " convenience " food. But I think they aren't healthy so I try to limit those and mostly load up on whole grains, etc. But if one showed sensitivity to it I wouldn't hesitate to take him off soy. __________ Click here to become a professional counselor in less time than you think. http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2141/fc/BLSrjpTOk50iYcKsXw6b3z4xoJWYC90XsEy6\ ZPffEULqiDjfh1e7OnKULHC/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 29, 2009 Report Share Posted April 29, 2009 I hated beans as a kid and now we buy them in 25 lb bags. :-) Don't be too worried and try different things as people have suggested. They will come around. I'm guessing you are fine on protein, but if you are concerned just keep track of your food for a week and enter it on one of those online nutrition sites and you'll see how you are really doing. Also, you might add things like nutritional yeast to foods...the kids might not mind that. Good luck! Linda A Marketplace for a Better World (Cruelty-free, Environmentally-Conscious, and Fair Labor Products) http://triballife.net/ http://triballifeinc.blogspot.com/ My personal blogs: http://veganlinda.blogspot.com/ http://cucarfree.blogspot.com/ ________________________________ jenni claire garverick <jennigarverick Tuesday, April 28, 2009 6:28:15 PM Re: Anyone raising veg kids without Soy? Hi- I totally believe that your kids will not eat beans. I know about 5 kids off of the top of my head that won't touch 'em. For some I think it's a texture thing, regardless how they're prepared.. Who knows. All the ideas were great, though- especially the cake! j. ____________ _________ _________ __ Denise Turner <deniseamay > @gro ups.com Tuesday, April 28, 2009 2:00:00 PM Re: Anyone raising veg kids without Soy? Hey Robin! I am so serious...my kids will NOT eat beans. If they can see the beans they will pick them out or totally refuse to eat. I've tried smashing the beans and mixing it into other foods...they will taste it and spit it out.. Sometimes my 17 month old with eat lentils if I mix it in with a grain but my 3 year old will not eat it at all. If anyone has tips please share! I keep offering the beans and I'm hoping it's something they will outgrow. Thanks! - Denise --- On Tue, 4/28/09, robin koloms <rkoloms > wrote: robin koloms <rkoloms > Re: Anyone raising veg kids without Soy? @gro ups.com Tuesday, April 28, 2009, 12:57 PM Hi Denise, Please don't think that I am being rude, but I have never heard of child who will not eat beans. What do you do with them? We have burritos at least once a week (black beans and sweet potato); love black bean soup and chili (eat weekly in the winter); taco salads in the summer; stews with veggies and beans (I need to think about what to throw in the crockpot for dinner).. Robin --- On Tue, 4/28/09, Denise Turner <deniseamay> wrote: Denise Turner <deniseamay> Re: Anyone raising veg kids without Soy? @gro ups.com Tuesday, April 28, 2009, 10:07 AM Thanks everyone! Yes, I guess I am worried about the protein factor. I think they get a good amount from nuts, seeds, eggs, cheese and grains but I was worried that wasn't enough so I thought about soy. They won't eat beans which totally sucks since they are so packed with protein! I haven't found any pediatricians that are knowledgeable in vegetarianism so it's been tricky figuring this all out on my own. I've read some books but for some reason still feel puzzled. I agree that whole soy would be best (tofu, edame) - I appreciate all your replies! I feel better about my choices. God bless! --- On Mon, 4/27/09, Linda Evans <veganlinda> wrote: Linda Evans <veganlinda> Re: Anyone raising veg kids without Soy? @gro ups.com Monday, April 27, 2009, 4:47 PM We aren't soy free, but you can certainly have a complete diet vegan or not without eating soy. Is there a reason you think your family is missing something? What do you think they are missing? Have you talked with a veg-friendly dietitian and/or kept a food diary? I wouldn't say that most veg eat more soy than the general public. A lot of the omnis I know eat quite a bit of soy (they may not realize it). When I was vegetarian I ate very little tofu, tempeh, miso, edamame, but I'm sure I was eating soy in processed foods. :-) Linda A Marketplace for a Better World (Cruelty-free, Environmentally- Conscious, and Fair Labor Products) http://triballife. net/ http://triballifein c.blogspot. com/ My personal blogs: http://veganlinda. blogspot. com/ http://cucarfree. blogspot. com/ ____________ _________ _________ __ Denise <deniseamay> @gro ups.com Monday, April 27, 2009 3:38:02 PM Anyone raising veg kids without Soy? Hey everyone! I have been a vegetarian for almost 10 years now. I have two boys (age 3 and 17 months). I have been raising them lacto-ovo-vegetaria n but don't include soy products. I've read too many conflicting reports on how soy may actually be terrible for your health and just don't want to risk it. But now I'm worried that I may not be giving them a well balanced veg diet if I'm excluding soy. Is anyone else out there raising vegetarian kids and excluding soy?? Seems like most veg eat alot of soy. Any advice or thoughts would be GREATLY appreciated! !! THANK YOU!!!! Denise Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 29, 2009 Report Share Posted April 29, 2009 Hi Denise, I had the same problem with my son. I just kept offering them and eventually he started to eat them. In the mean time I used a great recipe from How it All Vegan, called Nutty Hummus dip. It tastes like peanut butter and jam sandwiches. Just blend the following: 3/4 c cooked or canned chickpeas 1/4 c nut butter 1/4 c apple juice 1/2 t cinnamon 1/4 c any jam Then spread on sandwich. I think the cinnamon is a great way to hide the bean flavor. I also used cinnamon raisin bread to cover the taste even more, and he ate it up! I also blended beans in rice milk then added it to pancake batter along with cinnamon and he didn't notice a bean taste in my pancakes either. I hope this helps. Carla --- On Tue, 4/28/09, Denise Turner <deniseamay wrote: Denise Turner <deniseamay Re: Anyone raising veg kids without Soy? Tuesday, April 28, 2009, 12:00 PM Hey Robin! I am so serious...my kids will NOT eat beans. If they can see the beans they will pick them out or totally refuse to eat. I've tried smashing the beans and mixing it into other foods...they will taste it and spit it out.. Sometimes my 17 month old with eat lentils if I mix it in with a grain but my 3 year old will not eat it at all. If anyone has tips please share! I keep offering the beans and I'm hoping it's something they will outgrow. Thanks! - Denise --- On Tue, 4/28/09, robin koloms <rkoloms > wrote: robin koloms <rkoloms > Re: Anyone raising veg kids without Soy? @gro ups.com Tuesday, April 28, 2009, 12:57 PM Hi Denise, Please don't think that I am being rude, but I have never heard of child who will not eat beans. What do you do with them? We have burritos at least once a week (black beans and sweet potato); love black bean soup and chili (eat weekly in the winter); taco salads in the summer; stews with veggies and beans (I need to think about what to throw in the crockpot for dinner).. Robin --- On Tue, 4/28/09, Denise Turner <deniseamay> wrote: Denise Turner <deniseamay> Re: Anyone raising veg kids without Soy? @gro ups.com Tuesday, April 28, 2009, 10:07 AM Thanks everyone! Yes, I guess I am worried about the protein factor. I think they get a good amount from nuts, seeds, eggs, cheese and grains but I was worried that wasn't enough so I thought about soy. They won't eat beans which totally sucks since they are so packed with protein! I haven't found any pediatricians that are knowledgeable in vegetarianism so it's been tricky figuring this all out on my own. I've read some books but for some reason still feel puzzled. I agree that whole soy would be best (tofu, edame) - I appreciate all your replies! I feel better about my choices. God bless! --- On Mon, 4/27/09, Linda Evans <veganlinda> wrote: Linda Evans <veganlinda> Re: Anyone raising veg kids without Soy? @gro ups.com Monday, April 27, 2009, 4:47 PM We aren't soy free, but you can certainly have a complete diet vegan or not without eating soy. Is there a reason you think your family is missing something? What do you think they are missing? Have you talked with a veg-friendly dietitian and/or kept a food diary? I wouldn't say that most veg eat more soy than the general public. A lot of the omnis I know eat quite a bit of soy (they may not realize it). When I was vegetarian I ate very little tofu, tempeh, miso, edamame, but I'm sure I was eating soy in processed foods. :-) Linda A Marketplace for a Better World (Cruelty-free, Environmentally- Conscious, and Fair Labor Products) http://triballife. net/ http://triballifein c.blogspot. com/ My personal blogs: http://veganlinda. blogspot. com/ http://cucarfree. blogspot. com/ ____________ _________ _________ __ Denise <deniseamay> @gro ups.com Monday, April 27, 2009 3:38:02 PM Anyone raising veg kids without Soy? Hey everyone! I have been a vegetarian for almost 10 years now. I have two boys (age 3 and 17 months). I have been raising them lacto-ovo-vegetaria n but don't include soy products. I've read too many conflicting reports on how soy may actually be terrible for your health and just don't want to risk it. But now I'm worried that I may not be giving them a well balanced veg diet if I'm excluding soy. Is anyone else out there raising vegetarian kids and excluding soy?? Seems like most veg eat alot of soy. Any advice or thoughts would be GREATLY appreciated! !! THANK YOU!!!! Denise Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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