Guest guest Posted April 29, 2009 Report Share Posted April 29, 2009 Hello, I am new to this group and I was hoping someone might be able to help me. I am having great difficulty deciding what to give my 16-month old to drink. I nursed exclusively until she was 10-months when we found out she had milk protein allergy (and egg allergy). At that time, the allergist recommended that I switch to a " next-step " soy formula until 24 months. However, I have learned through this forum and other sources that there is concern about use of soy formula: phytoestogens issue, genetically modified soybean issue, and recent news of formula contamination and BPA chemicals in the containers, etc. I know that rice milk and soy milk do not have enough fat, and I cannot use nut milks yet because we were told to avoid nuts until age 3 due to potential allergy issues. The pediatrician said soy milk was OK, but I am worried it doesn't have enough fat. I have been giving her Earth's Best soy formula because it is non-GMO, but I am still not sure if I am doing the right thing. Does anyone have any advice? I would greatly appreciate any help. Thank you! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 29, 2009 Report Share Posted April 29, 2009 Personally, I think " next step " formulas are a scam to keep people contributing to the formula industry by scaring them into thinking that regular food isn't sufficient for a child over 1. It is. After donor breastmilk ran out after a year, my children switched entirely to regular food. They never consumed animal products of any kind and they also never drank any milk of any kind; they've always had water or tea, not juice, and so their nutrition comes from their food. It's indicative of our culture that parents are encouraged to ensure that a huge bulk of their children's nutrition - fat, protein and calcium - comes from a fluid. It's really not necessary. Plant milks are not a particularly good source of fat, except coconut milk. So your daughter should be eating avocados and seeds, which are pretty hypoallergenic. Be liberal with your use of olive oil or coconut oil in cooking her food. Add some flaxseed or hempseed oil to her yogurt or smoothies. Make sure she has a wide variety of foods in her diet, and she won't need any of the " white stuff " at all. Chandelle On Tue, Apr 28, 2009 at 8:06 PM, jamiefrana <jamiefrana wrote: > > > Hello, > > I am new to this group and I was hoping someone might be able to help me. I > am having great difficulty deciding what to give my 16-month old to drink. I > nursed exclusively until she was 10-months when we found out she had milk > protein allergy (and egg allergy). At that time, the allergist recommended > that I switch to a " next-step " soy formula until 24 months. However, I have > learned through this forum and other sources that there is concern about use > of soy formula: phytoestogens issue, genetically modified soybean issue, and > recent news of formula contamination and BPA chemicals in the containers, > etc. I know that rice milk and soy milk do not have enough fat, and I cannot > use nut milks yet because we were told to avoid nuts until age 3 due to > potential allergy issues. The pediatrician said soy milk was OK, but I am > worried it doesn't have enough fat. I have been giving her Earth's Best soy > formula because it is non-GMO, but I am still not sure if I am doing the > right thing. Does anyone have any advice? I would greatly appreciate any > help. Thank you! > > > -- " The demand for equal rights in every vocation of life is just and fair; but, after all, the most vital right is the right to love and be loved. " ~Emma Goldman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 29, 2009 Report Share Posted April 29, 2009 My son has a milk protein allergy. I nursed him till he was 23mo's, we did supplement with soy formula in his cereal when he was under a year old, but then just switched to regular foods at 1. He was about 10 mo's old as well when we found out about his milk protein allergy, too. Just add healthy fats to other foods - avacados, olive oil, canola oil. Drizzle a little on steamed veggies, add a teaspoon extra to soups (my son ate alone from around 11mo's on, and was very vehement about anyone trying to help him so we found a lot of things he would and could eat) - bite sized sandwiches w/soy nut butter/jam and Tofutti cream cheese. He also liked hummus (to dip pita and veggies in, sometimes a wrap we cut into little strips for him). Oil on pasta or rice, I know I also used to add flax seed oil to his soy yogurt (they also now have a coconut milk yogurt, I don't know if that's off limits with the nut avoidance for you) for a while (and toasted wheat germ) but he decided it tasted funny and wouldn't let me do the oil for him anymore, but he was maybe 3 then. We also used Earth Balance (melted) on some stuff, where it would taste better, or for a change (it's good oils as well). He didn't like it on his veggies (still prefers them plain, so I just make sure to put oils on his other foods) Oh, we also used tahini in things sometimes -the toasted one with a little salt is good with jam (has a lot of calcium, too). We now also have a hemp shake (from Nutivia, sweetened with stevia) that we add frozen fruit to, and make frosty shakes with - my son adores those, but it's more of a 'treat' There is a book called Super Baby Foods which also has recipes you can add extra healthy fats to make sure your daughter gets them.. You can also try hemp milk, has good fats and Omega 3's and 6's and protein. I like Living harvest (I even enjoy their plain one, but I think the chocolate one is the best LOL) I'm trying to remember what else we used to do - my son turns 6 in 2 months so I will probably forget something. I'll see what else I can remember. Oh, sunflower seeds, pumpkin seeds, wheat germ, flax seeds (grind before using, we kept them in the fridge/freezer already ground since we used them so much - add to pasta, yogurt, soup, sauces like a 'sprinkle topping' (you can also make a vegan parm. sprinkle - sunflower seeds, salt, nutritional yeast, sesame seeds). I think now, I am just used to adding stuff to his I don't think about it. It will get easier, trust me. Good luck, it's tricky at first - we were overwhelmed at first (and tried the 'wait and re-introduce again in 2 months' and after he was 1.5 I think (maybe not even that old) we just stopped with the milk all together as a whole family (I hate having to be a short order cook, and we didnt' think it was fair to have stuff we could have, and he couldn't. With the sensitivity level our son has, it's been for the best, because we can't buy Silk soymilk, or the Aldi Organic soymilk because they process on the same equipment as milk, and he has always reacted to it. Not so for other brands, like the 365 brand soymilks, and not with So Delicious products. I also didn't read carefully and there was a soy yogurt (I think the stonyfield farms O'soy) but the cultures are grown on milk - said so on the package, and I missed it, so we had some severe issues there, too. For us if it says it's processed on the same equipment or shared equipment as milk, it's hit or miss for wether or not he will react to it. Some things are ok, but some we pay the price in short amount of time. Missie On Tue, Apr 28, 2009 at 9:06 PM, jamiefrana <jamiefrana wrote: > > > Hello, > > I am new to this group and I was hoping someone might be able to help me. I > am having great difficulty deciding what to give my 16-month old to drink. I > nursed exclusively until she was 10-months when we found out she had milk > protein allergy (and egg allergy). At that time, the allergist recommended > that I switch to a " next-step " soy formula until 24 months. However, I have > learned through this forum and other sources that there is concern about use > of soy formula: phytoestogens issue, genetically modified soybean issue, and > recent news of formula contamination and BPA chemicals in the containers, > etc. I know that rice milk and soy milk do not have enough fat, and I cannot > use nut milks yet because we were told to avoid nuts until age 3 due to > potential allergy issues. The pediatrician said soy milk was OK, but I am > worried it doesn't have enough fat. I have been giving her Earth's Best soy > formula because it is non-GMO, but I am still not sure if I am doing the > right thing. Does anyone have any advice? I would greatly appreciate any > help. Thank you! > > -- http://mszzzi.zoomshare.com http://www.flickr.com/photos/mszzzi/ ~~~~~(m-.-)m Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 29, 2009 Report Share Posted April 29, 2009 Welcome to the group! At 16 months she doesn't need to drink anything besides water. Make sure that she is eating a good variety of foods. Do you have Super Baby Food by Ruth Yaron? You should be able to find it at your library, it is a great resouce for feeding babies and toddlers; there is some information at the website. www.superbabyfood.com Robin --- On Tue, 4/28/09, jamiefrana <jamiefrana wrote: jamiefrana <jamiefrana Milk protein allergy & choice of formula Tuesday, April 28, 2009, 9:06 PM Hello, I am new to this group and I was hoping someone might be able to help me. I am having great difficulty deciding what to give my 16-month old to drink. I nursed exclusively until she was 10-months when we found out she had milk protein allergy (and egg allergy). At that time, the allergist recommended that I switch to a " next-step " soy formula until 24 months. However, I have learned through this forum and other sources that there is concern about use of soy formula: phytoestogens issue, genetically modified soybean issue, and recent news of formula contamination and BPA chemicals in the containers, etc. I know that rice milk and soy milk do not have enough fat, and I cannot use nut milks yet because we were told to avoid nuts until age 3 due to potential allergy issues. The pediatrician said soy milk was OK, but I am worried it doesn't have enough fat. I have been giving her Earth's Best soy formula because it is non-GMO, but I am still not sure if I am doing the right thing. Does anyone have any advice? I would greatly appreciate any help. Thank you! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 30, 2009 Report Share Posted April 30, 2009 I'm a little confused as to why you'd have to stop nursing and switch to soy formula at 10 months? Did they tell you your baby had a milk protein allergy to YOUR milk? That's very rare, if even possible. My son is severely allergic to cow milk, nuts and legumes, and I nursed him until he was three. I now have a 21 month old daughter, too. She's still nursing, so we don't really worry about additional fluids, but she loves homemade hemp milk, and likes to have her own smoothie when we make them. Smoothies are a great way to cram in all sorts of nutrition. I use a VitaMix blender, and I hide all sorts of greens and veggies in smoothies for my kids. A popular one is 3 tbsp hemp seed, 1 tbsp flax oil, 1 frozen banana, handful of spinach, 1 carrot (3 or 4 baby carrots), 1 cup frozen blueberries, 1 apple or pear, 1 tbsp of lime juice. water to blend. But, like others have said, at 16 months, as long as she's having a variety of fruits, veggies, beans and whole grains, you shouldn't have to worry about any " milk " at all. At that age, I personally would avoid any formulas, even the more " natural " and organic ones, and just focus on good, whole foods nutrition Good luck! *^*^*^*^*^*^*^* Tara J Petite tara www.petite.net On Behalf Of jamiefrana Tuesday, April 28, 2009 10:06 PM Milk protein allergy & choice of formula Hello, I am new to this group and I was hoping someone might be able to help me. I am having great difficulty deciding what to give my 16-month old to drink. I nursed exclusively until she was 10-months when we found out she had milk protein allergy (and egg allergy). At that time, the allergist recommended that I switch to a " next-step " soy formula until 24 months. However, I have learned through this forum and other sources that there is concern about use of soy formula: phytoestogens issue, genetically modified soybean issue, and recent news of formula contamination and BPA chemicals in the containers, etc. I know that rice milk and soy milk do not have enough fat, and I cannot use nut milks yet because we were told to avoid nuts until age 3 due to potential allergy issues. The pediatrician said soy milk was OK, but I am worried it doesn't have enough fat. I have been giving her Earth's Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 1, 2009 Report Share Posted May 1, 2009 Thank you all so much for your responses! It really helps so much. The " next step " formula does appear unnecessary...however, the one aspect possibly in its favor is the claim of DHA and ARA in the formula (needed for proper development), which I assume is not available in other sources (other than breast milk). What do you think of this? I just have one more question regarding using extra oil as fat source for baby...what is a good brand/type to use? In the Super Baby Food book (page 274) the author states that " typical supermarket brands of cooking oils are processed at high temperatures and have added chemicals " . What is a good brand to use that is safer? (thanks for this reading recommendation and all the help!) , robin koloms <rkoloms wrote: > > Welcome to the group! > > At 16 months she doesn't need to drink anything besides water. Make sure that she is eating a good variety of foods. Do you have Super Baby Food by Ruth Yaron? You should be able to find it at your library, it is a great resouce for feeding babies and toddlers; there is some information at the website. www.superbabyfood.com > > Robin > > --- On Tue, 4/28/09, jamiefrana <jamiefrana wrote: > > jamiefrana <jamiefrana > Milk protein allergy & choice of formula > > Tuesday, April 28, 2009, 9:06 PM > > Hello, > > I am new to this group and I was hoping someone might be able to help me. I am having great difficulty deciding what to give my 16-month old to drink. I nursed exclusively until she was 10-months when we found out she had milk protein allergy (and egg allergy). At that time, the allergist recommended that I switch to a " next-step " soy formula until 24 months. However, I have learned through this forum and other sources that there is concern about use of soy formula: phytoestogens issue, genetically modified soybean issue, and recent news of formula contamination and BPA chemicals in the containers, etc. I know that rice milk and soy milk do not have enough fat, and I cannot use nut milks yet because we were told to avoid nuts until age 3 due to potential allergy issues. The pediatrician said soy milk was OK, but I am worried it doesn't have enough fat. I have been giving her Earth's Best soy formula because it is non-GMO, but I am still not sure if I am > doing the right thing. Does anyone have any advice? I would greatly appreciate any help. Thank you! > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 1, 2009 Report Share Posted May 1, 2009 virgin non-expeller if possible. ________________________________ jamiefrana <jamiefrana Thursday, April 30, 2009 11:27:44 PM Re: Milk protein allergy & choice of formula Thank you all so much for your responses! It really helps so much. The " next step " formula does appear unnecessary. ..however, the one aspect possibly in its favor is the claim of DHA and ARA in the formula (needed for proper development) , which I assume is not available in other sources (other than breast milk). What do you think of this? I just have one more question regarding using extra oil as fat source for baby...what is a good brand/type to use? In the Super Baby Food book (page 274) the author states that " typical supermarket brands of cooking oils are processed at high temperatures and have added chemicals " . What is a good brand to use that is safer? (thanks for this reading recommendation and all the help!) @gro ups.com, robin koloms <rkoloms > wrote: > > Welcome to the group! > > At 16 months she doesn't need to drink anything besides water.. Make sure that she is eating a good variety of foods. Do you have Super Baby Food by Ruth Yaron? You should be able to find it at your library, it is a great resouce for feeding babies and toddlers; there is some information at the website. www.superbabyfood. com > > Robin > > --- On Tue, 4/28/09, jamiefrana <jamiefrana@ ...> wrote: > > jamiefrana <jamiefrana@ ...> > Milk protein allergy & choice of formula > @gro ups.com > Tuesday, April 28, 2009, 9:06 PM > > Hello, > > I am new to this group and I was hoping someone might be able to help me. I am having great difficulty deciding what to give my 16-month old to drink. I nursed exclusively until she was 10-months when we found out she had milk protein allergy (and egg allergy). At that time, the allergist recommended that I switch to a " next-step " soy formula until 24 months. However, I have learned through this forum and other sources that there is concern about use of soy formula: phytoestogens issue, genetically modified soybean issue, and recent news of formula contamination and BPA chemicals in the containers, etc. I know that rice milk and soy milk do not have enough fat, and I cannot use nut milks yet because we were told to avoid nuts until age 3 due to potential allergy issues. The pediatrician said soy milk was OK, but I am worried it doesn't have enough fat. I have been giving her Earth's Best soy formula because it is non-GMO, but I am still not sure if I am > doing the right thing. Does anyone have any advice? I would greatly appreciate any help. Thank you! > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 1, 2009 Report Share Posted May 1, 2009 " first cold pressed " is also a good thing to look for. Heather 2009/5/1 unita walburn <uwalburn > > > virgin non-expeller if possible. > > ________________________________ > jamiefrana <jamiefrana <jamiefrana%40>> > <%40> > Thursday, April 30, 2009 11:27:44 PM > Re: Milk protein allergy & choice of formula > > Thank you all so much for your responses! It really helps so much. The > " next step " formula does appear unnecessary. ..however, the one aspect > possibly in its favor is the claim of DHA and ARA in the formula (needed for > proper development) , which I assume is not available in other sources > (other than breast milk). What do you think of this? > > I just have one more question regarding using extra oil as fat source for > baby...what is a good brand/type to use? In the Super Baby Food book (page > 274) the author states that " typical supermarket brands of cooking oils are > processed at high temperatures and have added chemicals " . What is a good > brand to use that is safer? (thanks for this reading recommendation and all > the help!) > > @gro ups.com, robin koloms <rkoloms > wrote: > > > > Welcome to the group! > > > > At 16 months she doesn't need to drink anything besides water.. Make > sure that she is eating a good variety of foods. Do you have Super Baby Food > by Ruth Yaron? You should be able to find it at your library, it is a great > resouce for feeding babies and toddlers; there is some information at the > website. www.superbabyfood. com > > > > Robin > > > > --- On Tue, 4/28/09, jamiefrana <jamiefrana@ ...> wrote: > > > > jamiefrana <jamiefrana@ ...> > > Milk protein allergy & choice of formula > > @gro ups.com > > Tuesday, April 28, 2009, 9:06 PM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hello, > > > > I am new to this group and I was hoping someone might be able to help me. > I am having great difficulty deciding what to give my 16-month old to drink. > I nursed exclusively until she was 10-months when we found out she had milk > protein allergy (and egg allergy). At that time, the allergist recommended > that I switch to a " next-step " soy formula until 24 months. However, I have > learned through this forum and other sources that there is concern about use > of soy formula: phytoestogens issue, genetically modified soybean issue, and > recent news of formula contamination and BPA chemicals in the containers, > etc. I know that rice milk and soy milk do not have enough fat, and I cannot > use nut milks yet because we were told to avoid nuts until age 3 due to > potential allergy issues. The pediatrician said soy milk was OK, but I am > worried it doesn't have enough fat. I have been giving her Earth's Best soy > formula because it is non-GMO, but I am still not sure if I am > > doing the right thing. Does anyone have any advice? I would greatly > appreciate any help. Thank you! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 1, 2009 Report Share Posted May 1, 2009 Jamie: I give my kids (17 mo and 3 yrs old) Nordic Naturals Omega-3 Gummies. They contain DHA/EPA/Omega-3 (however, they are made with fish oils so I'm not sure if that is against your diet). For oils I use (Organic only): Olive Oil and Flax Oil. You can also use Coconut Oil (my kids didn't like it), sesame oil, walnut oil, almond oil.. I give them avocados almost daily too. Check out your local health store - or most retail grocery stores now carry organic oils (not sure about flax though). Good luck!! --- On Thu, 4/30/09, jamiefrana <jamiefrana wrote: jamiefrana <jamiefrana Re: Milk protein allergy & choice of formula Thursday, April 30, 2009, 11:27 PM Thank you all so much for your responses! It really helps so much. The " next step " formula does appear unnecessary. ..however, the one aspect possibly in its favor is the claim of DHA and ARA in the formula (needed for proper development) , which I assume is not available in other sources (other than breast milk). What do you think of this? I just have one more question regarding using extra oil as fat source for baby...what is a good brand/type to use? In the Super Baby Food book (page 274) the author states that " typical supermarket brands of cooking oils are processed at high temperatures and have added chemicals " . What is a good brand to use that is safer? (thanks for this reading recommendation and all the help!) @gro ups.com, robin koloms <rkoloms > wrote: > > Welcome to the group! > > At 16 months she doesn't need to drink anything besides water. Make sure that she is eating a good variety of foods. Do you have Super Baby Food by Ruth Yaron? You should be able to find it at your library, it is a great resouce for feeding babies and toddlers; there is some information at the website. www.superbabyfood. com > > Robin > > --- On Tue, 4/28/09, jamiefrana <jamiefrana@ ...> wrote: > > jamiefrana <jamiefrana@ ...> > Milk protein allergy & choice of formula > @gro ups.com > Tuesday, April 28, 2009, 9:06 PM > > > > > > > > > Hello, > > I am new to this group and I was hoping someone might be able to help me. I am having great difficulty deciding what to give my 16-month old to drink. I nursed exclusively until she was 10-months when we found out she had milk protein allergy (and egg allergy). At that time, the allergist recommended that I switch to a " next-step " soy formula until 24 months. However, I have learned through this forum and other sources that there is concern about use of soy formula: phytoestogens issue, genetically modified soybean issue, and recent news of formula contamination and BPA chemicals in the containers, etc. I know that rice milk and soy milk do not have enough fat, and I cannot use nut milks yet because we were told to avoid nuts until age 3 due to potential allergy issues. The pediatrician said soy milk was OK, but I am worried it doesn't have enough fat. I have been giving her Earth's Best soy formula because it is non-GMO, but I am still not sure if I am > doing the right thing. Does anyone have any advice? I would greatly appreciate any help. Thank you! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 1, 2009 Report Share Posted May 1, 2009 Hemp seeds, flax seeds, and their associated oils are excellent sources of omega-3 fats (specifically ALA, which is readily converted into DHA and EPA in the body). They should never be heated. They are generally very hypoallergenic. The oils can be added to salad dressings or smoothies or drizzled over other foods. I find hempseed oil much more pleasant in flavor than flaxseed oil, but I also buy flaxseed oil with DHA (from algae) for smoothies. I also sprinkle the ground seeds over oatmeal, yogurt and rice. My kids ask for the seeds now. They must be ground as they will not digest whole. Some supplements, such as those by Spectrum, may contain a preformed version of vegetarian DHA from algae. These can be good insurance if you are concerned about omega-3 conversion. For cooking, I use organic, extra-virgin, cold-pressed oils. I use olive oil for short, lower-heat cooking, and coconut oil for longer, higher-heat cooking. Coconut oil is an excellent replacement for butter in baking, especially for pie crust. Occasionally I will cook with sesame oil for a different flavor, but I generally try to restrict my family's consumption of omega-6 fats. All healthy oils can be quite expensive, but I use them sparingly. Chandelle Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 1, 2009 Report Share Posted May 1, 2009 I forget the brand, but most health food stores should carry flax oil with DHA (and it should be refridgerated, because it's one that will go bad fast if it is not). We use different kinds of oils, and I have a spray bottle (just a little one I found, empty, at the grocery store near hair care products) that I make a mixed oil cooking spray (my husband and I don't need the extra fats, I use it like Pam, and sometimes on salads if that's what I'm having for dinner - one or 2 sprays I think in mine is less than half a tsp. My son likes to spray it on his foods, sometimes, too. We have gotten some Omega 3/6 gummies as well, but I don't think the ones we get are vegan anymore. I more worry that he gets B12 since we are vegan (though my son and husband rarely eat eggs, I would say *maybe* once every 6mo's or so, if even that, maybe once a year? I really don't know, because I don't buy them or cook/eat them). So about every other day we take a vegetarian B12 (the other days we take a multi which has a smaller amount of B12, and some other stuff I sometimes worry about - for peace of mind. Not that I do any of it regularly, but I don't give the B12 on the same day as the multi vite (it says Vegan kids vitamins on the label that's all I recall right now). Hope that helps. missie On Fri, May 1, 2009 at 9:01 AM, Denise Turner <deniseamay wrote: > > > Jamie: I give my kids (17 mo and 3 yrs old) Nordic Naturals Omega-3 > Gummies. They contain DHA/EPA/Omega-3 (however, they are made with fish > oils so I'm not sure if that is against your diet). > > For oils I use (Organic only): Olive Oil and Flax Oil. You can also use > Coconut Oil (my kids didn't like it), sesame oil, walnut oil, almond oil.. > I give them avocados almost daily too. Check out your local health store > - or most retail grocery stores now carry organic oils (not sure about flax > though). > > Good luck!! > > --- On Thu, 4/30/09, jamiefrana <jamiefrana wrote: > > jamiefrana <jamiefrana > Re: Milk protein allergy & choice of formula > > Thursday, April 30, 2009, 11:27 PM > > Thank you all so much for your responses! It really helps so much. The " next > step " formula does appear unnecessary. ..however, the one aspect possibly in > its favor is the claim of DHA and ARA in the formula (needed for proper > development) , which I assume is not available in other sources (other than > breast milk). What do you think of this? > > I just have one more question regarding using extra oil as fat source for > baby...what is a good brand/type to use? In the Super Baby Food book (page > 274) the author states that " typical supermarket brands of cooking oils are > processed at high temperatures and have added chemicals " . What is a good > brand to use that is safer? (thanks for this reading recommendation and all > the help!) > > @gro ups.com, robin koloms <rkoloms > wrote: > >> > >> Welcome to the group! > >> > >> At 16 months she doesn't need to drink anything besides water. Make sure >> that she is eating a good variety of foods. Do you have Super Baby Food by >> Ruth Yaron? You should be able to find it at your library, it is a great >> resouce for feeding babies and toddlers; there is some information at the >> website. www.superbabyfood. com > >> > >> Robin > >> > >> --- On Tue, 4/28/09, jamiefrana <jamiefrana@ ...> wrote: > >> > >> jamiefrana <jamiefrana@ ...> > >> Milk protein allergy & choice of formula > >> @gro ups.com > >> Tuesday, April 28, 2009, 9:06 PM > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> Hello, > >> > >> I am new to this group and I was hoping someone might be able to help me. >> I am having great difficulty deciding what to give my 16-month old to drink. >> I nursed exclusively until she was 10-months when we found out she had milk >> protein allergy (and egg allergy). At that time, the allergist recommended >> that I switch to a " next-step " soy formula until 24 months. However, I have >> learned through this forum and other sources that there is concern about use >> of soy formula: phytoestogens issue, genetically modified soybean issue, and >> recent news of formula contamination and BPA chemicals in the containers, >> etc. I know that rice milk and soy milk do not have enough fat, and I cannot >> use nut milks yet because we were told to avoid nuts until age 3 due to >> potential allergy issues. The pediatrician said soy milk was OK, but I am >> worried it doesn't have enough fat. I have been giving her Earth's Best soy >> formula because it is non-GMO, but I am still not sure if I > am > >> doing the right thing. Does anyone have any advice? I would greatly >> appreciate any help. Thank you! > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 1, 2009 Report Share Posted May 1, 2009 Hey Missie! Are you not supposed to give the B12 supplements along with a Multi? I give my kids a B12 and Multi each day (one in the morning and one in the evening). Just wondering if I shouldn't be doing that? Thanks! --- On Fri, 5/1/09, Missie <mszzzi wrote: Missie <mszzzi Re: Re: Milk protein allergy & choice of formula Friday, May 1, 2009, 10:26 AM I forget the brand, but most health food stores should carry flax oil with DHA (and it should be refridgerated, because it's one that will go bad fast if it is not). We use different kinds of oils, and I have a spray bottle (just a little one I found, empty, at the grocery store near hair care products) that I make a mixed oil cooking spray (my husband and I don't need the extra fats, I use it like Pam, and sometimes on salads if that's what I'm having for dinner - one or 2 sprays I think in mine is less than half a tsp. My son likes to spray it on his foods, sometimes, too. We have gotten some Omega 3/6 gummies as well, but I don't think the ones we get are vegan anymore. I more worry that he gets B12 since we are vegan (though my son and husband rarely eat eggs, I would say *maybe* once every 6mo's or so, if even that, maybe once a year? I really don't know, because I don't buy them or cook/eat them). So about every other day we take a vegetarian B12 (the other days we take a multi which has a smaller amount of B12, and some other stuff I sometimes worry about - for peace of mind. Not that I do any of it regularly, but I don't give the B12 on the same day as the multi vite (it says Vegan kids vitamins on the label that's all I recall right now). Hope that helps. missie On Fri, May 1, 2009 at 9:01 AM, Denise Turner <deniseamay > wrote: > > > Jamie: I give my kids (17 mo and 3 yrs old) Nordic Naturals Omega-3 > Gummies. They contain DHA/EPA/Omega- 3 (however, they are made with fish > oils so I'm not sure if that is against your diet). > > For oils I use (Organic only): Olive Oil and Flax Oil. You can also use > Coconut Oil (my kids didn't like it), sesame oil, walnut oil, almond oil.. > I give them avocados almost daily too. Check out your local health store > - or most retail grocery stores now carry organic oils (not sure about flax > though). > > Good luck!! > > --- On Thu, 4/30/09, jamiefrana <jamiefrana > wrote: > > jamiefrana <jamiefrana > > Re: Milk protein allergy & choice of formula > @gro ups.com > Thursday, April 30, 2009, 11:27 PM > > Thank you all so much for your responses! It really helps so much. The " next > step " formula does appear unnecessary. ..however, the one aspect possibly in > its favor is the claim of DHA and ARA in the formula (needed for proper > development) , which I assume is not available in other sources (other than > breast milk). What do you think of this? > > I just have one more question regarding using extra oil as fat source for > baby...what is a good brand/type to use? In the Super Baby Food book (page > 274) the author states that " typical supermarket brands of cooking oils are > processed at high temperatures and have added chemicals " . What is a good > brand to use that is safer? (thanks for this reading recommendation and all > the help!) > > @gro ups.com, robin koloms <rkoloms > wrote: > >> > >> Welcome to the group! > >> > >> At 16 months she doesn't need to drink anything besides water. Make sure >> that she is eating a good variety of foods. Do you have Super Baby Food by >> Ruth Yaron? You should be able to find it at your library, it is a great >> resouce for feeding babies and toddlers; there is some information at the >> website. www.superbabyfood. com > >> > >> Robin > >> > >> --- On Tue, 4/28/09, jamiefrana <jamiefrana@ ...> wrote: > >> > >> jamiefrana <jamiefrana@ ...> > >> Milk protein allergy & choice of formula > >> @gro ups.com > >> Tuesday, April 28, 2009, 9:06 PM > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> Hello, > >> > >> I am new to this group and I was hoping someone might be able to help me. >> I am having great difficulty deciding what to give my 16-month old to drink. >> I nursed exclusively until she was 10-months when we found out she had milk >> protein allergy (and egg allergy). At that time, the allergist recommended >> that I switch to a " next-step " soy formula until 24 months. However, I have >> learned through this forum and other sources that there is concern about use >> of soy formula: phytoestogens issue, genetically modified soybean issue, and >> recent news of formula contamination and BPA chemicals in the containers, >> etc. I know that rice milk and soy milk do not have enough fat, and I cannot >> use nut milks yet because we were told to avoid nuts until age 3 due to >> potential allergy issues. The pediatrician said soy milk was OK, but I am >> worried it doesn't have enough fat. I have been giving her Earth's Best soy >> formula because it is non-GMO, but I am still not sure if I > am > >> doing the right thing. Does anyone have any advice? I would greatly >> appreciate any help. Thank you! > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 1, 2009 Report Share Posted May 1, 2009 Hi, I don't give the B12 every day because the multi we have has B12 in it already (but in smaller amounts). It should be ok to give the supplement with it, especially since you're waiting till the end of the day for one of them. Missie On Fri, May 1, 2009 at 1:36 PM, Denise Turner <deniseamay wrote: > > > Hey Missie! > > Are you not supposed to give the B12 supplements along with a Multi? I give > my kids a B12 and Multi each day (one in the morning and one in the > evening). Just wondering if I shouldn't be doing that? Thanks! > > --- On Fri, 5/1/09, Missie <mszzzi wrote: > > Missie <mszzzi > Re: Re: Milk protein allergy & choice of formula > > Friday, May 1, 2009, 10:26 AM > > I forget the brand, but most health food stores should carry flax oil > > with DHA (and it should be refridgerated, because it's one that will > > go bad fast if it is not). > > We use different kinds of oils, and I have a spray bottle (just a > > little one I found, empty, at the grocery store near hair care > > products) that I make a mixed oil cooking spray (my husband and I > > don't need the extra fats, I use it like Pam, and sometimes on salads > > if that's what I'm having for dinner - one or 2 sprays I think in mine > > is less than half a tsp. My son likes to spray it on his foods, > > sometimes, too. > > We have gotten some Omega 3/6 gummies as well, but I don't think the > > ones we get are vegan anymore. I more worry that he gets B12 since we > > are vegan (though my son and husband rarely eat eggs, I would say > > *maybe* once every 6mo's or so, if even that, maybe once a year? I > > really don't know, because I don't buy them or cook/eat them). > > So about every other day we take a vegetarian B12 (the other days we > > take a multi which has a smaller amount of B12, and some other stuff I > > sometimes worry about - for peace of mind. Not that I do any of it > > regularly, but I don't give the B12 on the same day as the multi vite > > (it says Vegan kids vitamins on the label that's all I recall right > > now). > > Hope that helps. > > missie > > On Fri, May 1, 2009 at 9:01 AM, Denise Turner <deniseamay > wrote: > >> > >> > >> Jamie: I give my kids (17 mo and 3 yrs old) Nordic Naturals Omega-3 > >> Gummies. They contain DHA/EPA/Omega- 3 (however, they are made with fish > >> oils so I'm not sure if that is against your diet). > >> > >> For oils I use (Organic only): Olive Oil and Flax Oil. You can also use > >> Coconut Oil (my kids didn't like it), sesame oil, walnut oil, almond oil.. > >> I give them avocados almost daily too. Check out your local health >> store > >> - or most retail grocery stores now carry organic oils (not sure about >> flax > >> though). > >> > >> Good luck!! > >> > >> --- On Thu, 4/30/09, jamiefrana <jamiefrana > wrote: > >> > >> jamiefrana <jamiefrana > > >> Re: Milk protein allergy & choice of formula > >> @gro ups.com > >> Thursday, April 30, 2009, 11:27 PM > >> > >> Thank you all so much for your responses! It really helps so much. The >> " next > >> step " formula does appear unnecessary. ..however, the one aspect possibly >> in > >> its favor is the claim of DHA and ARA in the formula (needed for proper > >> development) , which I assume is not available in other sources (other >> than > >> breast milk). What do you think of this? > >> > >> I just have one more question regarding using extra oil as fat source for > >> baby...what is a good brand/type to use? In the Super Baby Food book (page > >> 274) the author states that " typical supermarket brands of cooking oils >> are > >> processed at high temperatures and have added chemicals " . What is a good > >> brand to use that is safer? (thanks for this reading recommendation and >> all > >> the help!) > >> > >> @gro ups.com, robin koloms <rkoloms > wrote: > >> > >>> > >> > >>> Welcome to the group! > >> > >>> > >> > >>> At 16 months she doesn't need to drink anything besides water. Make sure > >>> that she is eating a good variety of foods. Do you have Super Baby Food >>> by > >>> Ruth Yaron? You should be able to find it at your library, it is a great > >>> resouce for feeding babies and toddlers; there is some information at the > >>> website. www.superbabyfood. com > >> > >>> > >> > >>> Robin > >> > >>> > >> > >>> --- On Tue, 4/28/09, jamiefrana <jamiefrana@ ...> wrote: > >> > >>> > >> > >>> jamiefrana <jamiefrana@ ...> > >> > >>> Milk protein allergy & choice of formula > >> > >>> @gro ups.com > >> > >>> Tuesday, April 28, 2009, 9:06 PM > >> > >>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>> Hello, > >> > >>> > >> > >>> I am new to this group and I was hoping someone might be able to help me. > >>> I am having great difficulty deciding what to give my 16-month old to >>> drink. > >>> I nursed exclusively until she was 10-months when we found out she had >>> milk > >>> protein allergy (and egg allergy). At that time, the allergist >>> recommended > >>> that I switch to a " next-step " soy formula until 24 months. However, I >>> have > >>> learned through this forum and other sources that there is concern about >>> use > >>> of soy formula: phytoestogens issue, genetically modified soybean issue, >>> and > >>> recent news of formula contamination and BPA chemicals in the containers, > >>> etc. I know that rice milk and soy milk do not have enough fat, and I >>> cannot > >>> use nut milks yet because we were told to avoid nuts until age 3 due to > >>> potential allergy issues. The pediatrician said soy milk was OK, but I am > >>> worried it doesn't have enough fat. I have been giving her Earth's Best >>> soy > >>> formula because it is non-GMO, but I am still not sure if I > >> am > >> > >>> doing the right thing. Does anyone have any advice? I would greatly > >>> appreciate any help. Thank you! > >> > >>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 2, 2009 Report Share Posted May 2, 2009 Thanks to all for your help! Now that I've dug through group archives a bit, I see so much great info. Tara--to answer your question, we found out about the milk allergy at 10 months when my daughter drank out of another baby's bottle that had cow's milk-based formula & she had immediate terrible skin reaction (up to that point she'd had only breastmilk). The allergist told me to stop nursing because she said that any milk in my diet passed through nursing could extend the allergy. In hindsight, I am angry with myself as I should have just switched to rice milk in my diet and continued nursing. But, at the time I was panicked and was not educated on milk alternatives. Anyway, thanks so much for the smoothie recipe and other info! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 3, 2009 Report Share Posted May 3, 2009 Spectrum make a flax oil with vegetarian DHA. It comes in a black plastic bottle with a red label. Udo's makes a flax blend with veg. DHA that comes packaged in glass. The Udo's is much more expensive but I think it's worth it. It tastes nice and smooth and the glass bottle is much better than plastic. Your local Whole Foods Market should carry both and there is a $2 off coupon for the Spectrum and a $1 off coupon for the Udo's in the Whole Foods coupon book. Something interesting I just learned about DHA. Many farm raised fish don't contain much DHA, even salmon. DHA, which is an essential fatty acid, can't be made by an animal's body (including humans). You must get EFAs from the food you eat. Since farm raised fish aren't eating smaller fish, they don't get DHA in their diets or they get it in very small amounts. The original source for DHA for any fish is algae, which produces DHA on its own. So why not just go straight to the source? Forget the fish, fish oil, etc. Use the Spectrum or Udo's whose DHA comes right from the sea algae. (Udo's actually grows their own algae in clean tanks.) Check out more info about EFAs on Udo's site. (if you can't tell, I really like this guy and his products.) http://www.udoerasmus.com/articles/udo/good-fish-oils-not-enough.htm , " jamiefrana " <jamiefrana wrote: > > Thank you all so much for your responses! It really helps so much. The " next step " formula does appear unnecessary...however, the one aspect possibly in its favor is the claim of DHA and ARA in the formula (needed for proper development), which I assume is not available in other sources (other than breast milk). What do you think of this? > > I just have one more question regarding using extra oil as fat source for baby...what is a good brand/type to use? In the Super Baby Food book (page 274) the author states that " typical supermarket brands of cooking oils are processed at high temperatures and have added chemicals " . What is a good brand to use that is safer? (thanks for this reading recommendation and all the help!) > > > > , robin koloms <rkoloms@> wrote: > > > > Welcome to the group! > > > > At 16 months she doesn't need to drink anything besides water. Make sure that she is eating a good variety of foods. Do you have Super Baby Food by Ruth Yaron? You should be able to find it at your library, it is a great resouce for feeding babies and toddlers; there is some information at the website. www.superbabyfood.com > > > > Robin > > > > --- On Tue, 4/28/09, jamiefrana <jamiefrana@> wrote: > > > > jamiefrana <jamiefrana@> > > Milk protein allergy & choice of formula > > > > Tuesday, April 28, 2009, 9:06 PM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hello, > > > > I am new to this group and I was hoping someone might be able to help me. I am having great difficulty deciding what to give my 16-month old to drink. I nursed exclusively until she was 10-months when we found out she had milk protein allergy (and egg allergy). At that time, the allergist recommended that I switch to a " next-step " soy formula until 24 months. However, I have learned through this forum and other sources that there is concern about use of soy formula: phytoestogens issue, genetically modified soybean issue, and recent news of formula contamination and BPA chemicals in the containers, etc. I know that rice milk and soy milk do not have enough fat, and I cannot use nut milks yet because we were told to avoid nuts until age 3 due to potential allergy issues. The pediatrician said soy milk was OK, but I am worried it doesn't have enough fat. I have been giving her Earth's Best soy formula because it is non-GMO, but I am still not sure if I am > > doing the right thing. Does anyone have any advice? I would greatly appreciate any help. Thank you! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 4, 2009 Report Share Posted May 4, 2009 Oh, I see. Yes, that's a possibility. Though, I was still eating some dairy when nursing my son, so when he developed server eczema and obvious allergies, I eliminated it (and all other potential allergens) from my diet and there was no marked improvement from that alone. We just learn as we go! J *^*^*^*^*^*^*^* Tara J Petite tara www.petite.net On Behalf Of jamiefrana Saturday, May 02, 2009 6:09 PM Re: Milk protein allergy & choice of formula Thanks to all for your help! Now that I've dug through group archives a bit, I see so much great info. Tara--to answer your question, we found out about the milk allergy at 10 months when my daughter drank out of another baby's bottle that had cow's milk-based formula & she had immediate terrible skin reaction (up to that point she'd had only breastmilk). The allergist told me to stop nursing because she said that any milk in my diet passed through nursing could extend the allergy. In hindsight, I am angry with myself as I should have just switched to rice milk in my diet and continued nursing. But, at the time I was panicked and was not educated on milk alternatives. Anyway, thanks so much for the smoothie recipe and other info! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 4, 2009 Report Share Posted May 4, 2009 Just to add my two cents- a friend of mine's son has very severe allergies to soy, pit fruits, all nuts/legumes, strawberries, bananas, gluten, and other stuff; she was told to stop eating those foods, too, by her allergist, in case of cross-over to the breast milk. (He hasn't had marked improvement either, by the way, from just that). She finally gave up on the breast feeding thing, too; it was just too restrictive for her. You guys have my sympathy- the allergy thing can be a tough road. j. ________________________________ Tara J Petite <tara Monday, May 4, 2009 10:52:27 AM RE: Re: Milk protein allergy & choice of formula Oh, I see. Yes, that's a possibility. Though, I was still eating some dairy when nursing my son, so when he developed server eczema and obvious allergies, I eliminated it (and all other potential allergens) from my diet and there was no marked improvement from that alone. We just learn as we go! J *^*^*^*^*^*^ *^* Tara J Petite tara (AT) petite (DOT) net www.petite.net @gro ups.com [@gro ups.com] On Behalf Of jamiefrana Saturday, May 02, 2009 6:09 PM @gro ups.com Re: Milk protein allergy & choice of formula Thanks to all for your help! Now that I've dug through group archives a bit, I see so much great info. Tara--to answer your question, we found out about the milk allergy at 10 months when my daughter drank out of another baby's bottle that had cow's milk-based formula & she had immediate terrible skin reaction (up to that point she'd had only breastmilk). The allergist told me to stop nursing because she said that any milk in my diet passed through nursing could extend the allergy. In hindsight, I am angry with myself as I should have just switched to rice milk in my diet and continued nursing. But, at the time I was panicked and was not educated on milk alternatives. Anyway, thanks so much for the smoothie recipe and other info! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 5, 2009 Report Share Posted May 5, 2009 Hi there My first son had gastric reflux from day one. Even with my BM he used to throw up big time. while I was breastfeeding him I tried changing my diet to avoid it but nothing really worked well. Then when he was nearing 1yr i was very hesitant transitioning him to cow's milk. Doc suggested Soy milk but i was not v.comfortable due to the things i had read about Soy as well. So my doc suggested this and it worked for us. Instead of giving him cold milk or even warm milk, we boil milk and cool it to drinkable temperature. This according to the doc will break the protein and so may not be too bad for the baby to digest. Not sure how severe ur baby's allergy is and not sure if this will work for you or not but just an FYI. hope it helps Shree --- On Tue, 5/5/09, wrote: Digest Number 2685 Tuesday, May 5, 2009, 12:50 AM There are 5 messages in this issue. Topics in this digest: 1a. Re: Hello! unita walburn 2a. Re: Milk protein allergy & choice of formula jamiefrana 2b. Re: Milk protein allergy & choice of formula food4u1575 2c. Re: Milk protein allergy & choice of formula Tara J Petite 3a. Re: Mixing Milks Alan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 5, 2009 Report Share Posted May 5, 2009 You can get childrens DHA supplement by Spectrum, made with organic flax, No fish oil. They are flavored and my son loves them! , " food4u1575 " <dana.sommers wrote: > > Spectrum make a flax oil with vegetarian DHA. It comes in a black plastic bottle with a red label. Udo's makes a flax blend with veg. DHA that comes packaged in glass. The Udo's is much more expensive but I think it's worth it. It tastes nice and smooth and the glass bottle is much better than plastic. Your local Whole Foods Market should carry both and there is a $2 off coupon for the Spectrum and a $1 off coupon for the Udo's in the Whole Foods coupon book. > > Something interesting I just learned about DHA. Many farm raised fish don't contain much DHA, even salmon. DHA, which is an essential fatty acid, can't be made by an animal's body (including humans). You must get EFAs from the food you eat. Since farm raised fish aren't eating smaller fish, they don't get DHA in their diets or they get it in very small amounts. The original source for DHA for any fish is algae, which produces DHA on its own. So why not just go straight to the source? Forget the fish, fish oil, etc. Use the Spectrum or Udo's whose DHA comes right from the sea algae. (Udo's actually grows their own algae in clean tanks.) Check out more info about EFAs on Udo's site. (if you can't tell, I really like this guy and his products.) http://www.udoerasmus.com/articles/udo/good-fish-oils-not-enough.htm > > > , " jamiefrana " <jamiefrana@> wrote: > > > > Thank you all so much for your responses! It really helps so much. The " next step " formula does appear unnecessary...however, the one aspect possibly in its favor is the claim of DHA and ARA in the formula (needed for proper development), which I assume is not available in other sources (other than breast milk). What do you think of this? > > > > I just have one more question regarding using extra oil as fat source for baby...what is a good brand/type to use? In the Super Baby Food book (page 274) the author states that " typical supermarket brands of cooking oils are processed at high temperatures and have added chemicals " . What is a good brand to use that is safer? (thanks for this reading recommendation and all the help!) > > > > > > > > , robin koloms <rkoloms@> wrote: > > > > > > Welcome to the group! > > > > > > At 16 months she doesn't need to drink anything besides water. Make sure that she is eating a good variety of foods. Do you have Super Baby Food by Ruth Yaron? You should be able to find it at your library, it is a great resouce for feeding babies and toddlers; there is some information at the website. www.superbabyfood.com > > > > > > Robin > > > > > > --- On Tue, 4/28/09, jamiefrana <jamiefrana@> wrote: > > > > > > jamiefrana <jamiefrana@> > > > Milk protein allergy & choice of formula > > > > > > Tuesday, April 28, 2009, 9:06 PM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hello, > > > > > > I am new to this group and I was hoping someone might be able to help me. I am having great difficulty deciding what to give my 16-month old to drink. I nursed exclusively until she was 10-months when we found out she had milk protein allergy (and egg allergy). At that time, the allergist recommended that I switch to a " next-step " soy formula until 24 months. However, I have learned through this forum and other sources that there is concern about use of soy formula: phytoestogens issue, genetically modified soybean issue, and recent news of formula contamination and BPA chemicals in the containers, etc. I know that rice milk and soy milk do not have enough fat, and I cannot use nut milks yet because we were told to avoid nuts until age 3 due to potential allergy issues. The pediatrician said soy milk was OK, but I am worried it doesn't have enough fat. I have been giving her Earth's Best soy formula because it is non-GMO, but I am still not sure if I am > > > doing the right thing. Does anyone have any advice? I would greatly appreciate any help. Thank you! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 5, 2009 Report Share Posted May 5, 2009 I just checked them out online and the ingredient list includes gelatin. I am trying to get my son to take DHA supplements due to attention issues at school. I ordered the drops from Dr. Fuhrman, but they have quite a strong flavor (almost like a perfume), plus the oil slick that forms on top of his drinks turns him off to it. I tried to get him to take a vegan DHA softgel that I take, but he objected that he would choke and worked himself into quite a panic, so that route is closed for now. Karen - mylameoww Tuesday, May 05, 2009 12:03 PM Re: Milk protein allergy & choice of formula You can get childrens DHA supplement by Spectrum, made with organic flax, No fish oil. They are flavored and my son loves them! , " food4u1575 " <dana.sommers wrote: > > Spectrum make a flax oil with vegetarian DHA. It comes in a black plastic bottle with a red label. Udo's makes a flax blend with veg. DHA that comes packaged in glass. The Udo's is much more expensive but I think it's worth it. It tastes nice and smooth and the glass bottle is much better than plastic. Your local Whole Foods Market should carry both and there is a $2 off coupon for the Spectrum and a $1 off coupon for the Udo's in the Whole Foods coupon book. > > Something interesting I just learned about DHA. Many farm raised fish don't contain much DHA, even salmon. DHA, which is an essential fatty acid, can't be made by an animal's body (including humans). You must get EFAs from the food you eat. Since farm raised fish aren't eating smaller fish, they don't get DHA in their diets or they get it in very small amounts. The original source for DHA for any fish is algae, which produces DHA on its own. So why not just go straight to the source? Forget the fish, fish oil, etc. Use the Spectrum or Udo's whose DHA comes right from the sea algae. (Udo's actually grows their own algae in clean tanks.) Check out more info about EFAs on Udo's site. (if you can't tell, I really like this guy and his products.) http://www.udoerasmus.com/articles/udo/good-fish-oils-not-enough.htm > > > , " jamiefrana " <jamiefrana@> wrote: > > > > Thank you all so much for your responses! It really helps so much. The " next step " formula does appear unnecessary...however, the one aspect possibly in its favor is the claim of DHA and ARA in the formula (needed for proper development), which I assume is not available in other sources (other than breast milk). What do you think of this? > > > > I just have one more question regarding using extra oil as fat source for baby...what is a good brand/type to use? In the Super Baby Food book (page 274) the author states that " typical supermarket brands of cooking oils are processed at high temperatures and have added chemicals " . What is a good brand to use that is safer? (thanks for this reading recommendation and all the help!) > > > > > > > > , robin koloms <rkoloms@> wrote: > > > > > > Welcome to the group! > > > > > > At 16 months she doesn't need to drink anything besides water. Make sure that she is eating a good variety of foods. Do you have Super Baby Food by Ruth Yaron? You should be able to find it at your library, it is a great resouce for feeding babies and toddlers; there is some information at the website. www.superbabyfood.com > > > > > > Robin > > > > > > --- On Tue, 4/28/09, jamiefrana <jamiefrana@> wrote: > > > > > > jamiefrana <jamiefrana@> > > > Milk protein allergy & choice of formula > > > > > > Tuesday, April 28, 2009, 9:06 PM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hello, > > > > > > I am new to this group and I was hoping someone might be able to help me. I am having great difficulty deciding what to give my 16-month old to drink. I nursed exclusively until she was 10-months when we found out she had milk protein allergy (and egg allergy). At that time, the allergist recommended that I switch to a " next-step " soy formula until 24 months. However, I have learned through this forum and other sources that there is concern about use of soy formula: phytoestogens issue, genetically modified soybean issue, and recent news of formula contamination and BPA chemicals in the containers, etc. I know that rice milk and soy milk do not have enough fat, and I cannot use nut milks yet because we were told to avoid nuts until age 3 due to potential allergy issues. The pediatrician said soy milk was OK, but I am worried it doesn't have enough fat. I have been giving her Earth's Best soy formula because it is non-GMO, but I am still not sure if I am > > > doing the right thing. Does anyone have any advice? I would greatly appreciate any help. Thank you! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 5, 2009 Report Share Posted May 5, 2009 Yes. It was very restrictive. I lost 50 pounds in 4 months out of sheer boredom. basically only eating rice, pears, pinto beans and greens. This didn't improve things for my son, but I continued to breastfeed upon returning to my " normal " diet, and there was no change in him one way or the other. Eventually, around 12 to 15 months of age, you could just see his own immune system kicking in, and he started clearing up (eczema) pretty remarkably. So, in hindsight, I would just say do things to boost your child's immune system (breastfeeding, if you can, limit or eliminate processed foods, lots of fruits and veggies, fresh air, a little sunshine, etc). My son's improvement actually started around 10 months old on a trip to a remote town in Newfoundland, Canada. The air was just so clean, I swear that was a catalyst for improvement in his health. Anyway. rambling. having post-traumatic flashbacks to that first year. Phew! Glad that's behind us! LOL *^*^*^*^*^*^*^* Tara J Petite tara www.petite.net On Behalf Of jenni claire garverick Monday, May 04, 2009 6:30 PM Re: Re: Milk protein allergy & choice of formula Just to add my two cents- a friend of mine's son has very severe allergies to soy, pit fruits, all nuts/legumes, strawberries, bananas, gluten, and other stuff; she was told to stop eating those foods, too, by her allergist, in case of cross-over to the breast milk. (He hasn't had marked improvement either, by the way, from just that). She finally gave up on the breast feeding thing, too; it was just too restrictive for her. You guys have my sympathy- the allergy thing can be a tough road. j. ________________________________ Tara J Petite <tara <tara%40petite.net> > <%40> Monday, May 4, 2009 10:52:27 AM RE: Re: Milk protein allergy & choice of formula Oh, I see. Yes, that's a possibility. Though, I was still eating some dairy when nursing my son, so when he developed server eczema and obvious allergies, I eliminated it (and all other potential allergens) from my diet and there was no marked improvement from that alone. We just learn as we go! J *^*^*^*^*^*^ *^* Tara J Petite tara (AT) petite (DOT) net www.petite.net @gro ups.com [@gro ups.com] On Behalf Of jamiefrana Saturday, May 02, 2009 6:09 PM @gro ups.com Re: Milk protein allergy & choice of formula Thanks to all for your help! Now that I've dug through group archives a bit, I see so much great info. Tara--to answer your question, we found out about the milk allergy at 10 months when my daughter drank out of another baby's bottle that had cow's milk-based formula & she had immediate terrible skin reaction (up to that point she'd had only breastmilk). The allergist told me to stop nursing because she said that any milk in my diet passed through nursing could extend the allergy. In hindsight, I am angry with myself as I should have just switched to rice milk in my diet and continued nursing. But, at the time I was panicked and was not educated on milk alternatives. Anyway, thanks so much for the smoothie recipe and other info! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 6, 2009 Report Share Posted May 6, 2009 I got the Strawberry Banana Omega Swirl smoothie (vegetarian formula) last week. I think it tastes pretty good. I was looking online though and found a Total Omega Vegan Swirl smoothie (different flavor like rasberry or something) that has DHA in it (the vegetarian formula does not). So I'm thinking that might be better to try in the future. Renee ________________________________ Karen Detling <kdetling Tuesday, May 5, 2009 3:35:00 PM Re: Re: Milk protein allergy & choice of formula I just checked them out online and the ingredient list includes gelatin. I am trying to get my son to take DHA supplements due to attention issues at school. I ordered the drops from Dr. Fuhrman, but they have quite a strong flavor (almost like a perfume), plus the oil slick that forms on top of his drinks turns him off to it. I tried to get him to take a vegan DHA softgel that I take, but he objected that he would choke and worked himself into quite a panic, so that route is closed for now. Karen - mylameoww @gro ups.com Tuesday, May 05, 2009 12:03 PM Re: Milk protein allergy & choice of formula You can get childrens DHA supplement by Spectrum, made with organic flax, No fish oil. They are flavored and my son loves them! @gro ups.com, " food4u1575 " <dana.sommers@ ...> wrote: > > Spectrum make a flax oil with vegetarian DHA. It comes in a black plastic bottle with a red label. Udo's makes a flax blend with veg. DHA that comes packaged in glass. The Udo's is much more expensive but I think it's worth it. It tastes nice and smooth and the glass bottle is much better than plastic. Your local Whole Foods Market should carry both and there is a $2 off coupon for the Spectrum and a $1 off coupon for the Udo's in the Whole Foods coupon book. > > Something interesting I just learned about DHA. Many farm raised fish don't contain much DHA, even salmon. DHA, which is an essential fatty acid, can't be made by an animal's body (including humans). You must get EFAs from the food you eat. Since farm raised fish aren't eating smaller fish, they don't get DHA in their diets or they get it in very small amounts. The original source for DHA for any fish is algae, which produces DHA on its own. So why not just go straight to the source? Forget the fish, fish oil, etc. Use the Spectrum or Udo's whose DHA comes right from the sea algae. (Udo's actually grows their own algae in clean tanks.) Check out more info about EFAs on Udo's site. (if you can't tell, I really like this guy and his products.) http://www.udoerasm us.com/articles/ udo/good- fish-oils- not-enough. htm > > > @gro ups.com, " jamiefrana " <jamiefrana@ > wrote: > > > > Thank you all so much for your responses! It really helps so much. The " next step " formula does appear unnecessary. ..however, the one aspect possibly in its favor is the claim of DHA and ARA in the formula (needed for proper development) , which I assume is not available in other sources (other than breast milk). What do you think of this? > > > > I just have one more question regarding using extra oil as fat source for baby...what is a good brand/type to use? In the Super Baby Food book (page 274) the author states that " typical supermarket brands of cooking oils are processed at high temperatures and have added chemicals " . What is a good brand to use that is safer? (thanks for this reading recommendation and all the help!) > > > > > > > > @gro ups.com, robin koloms <rkoloms@> wrote: > > > > > > Welcome to the group! > > > > > > At 16 months she doesn't need to drink anything besides water. Make sure that she is eating a good variety of foods. Do you have Super Baby Food by Ruth Yaron? You should be able to find it at your library, it is a great resouce for feeding babies and toddlers; there is some information at the website. www.superbabyfood. com > > > > > > Robin > > > > > > --- On Tue, 4/28/09, jamiefrana <jamiefrana@ > wrote: > > > > > > jamiefrana <jamiefrana@ > > > > Milk protein allergy & choice of formula > > > @gro ups.com > > > Tuesday, April 28, 2009, 9:06 PM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hello, > > > > > > I am new to this group and I was hoping someone might be able to help me. I am having great difficulty deciding what to give my 16-month old to drink. I nursed exclusively until she was 10-months when we found out she had milk protein allergy (and egg allergy). At that time, the allergist recommended that I switch to a " next-step " soy formula until 24 months. However, I have learned through this forum and other sources that there is concern about use of soy formula: phytoestogens issue, genetically modified soybean issue, and recent news of formula contamination and BPA chemicals in the containers, etc. I know that rice milk and soy milk do not have enough fat, and I cannot use nut milks yet because we were told to avoid nuts until age 3 due to potential allergy issues. The pediatrician said soy milk was OK, but I am worried it doesn't have enough fat. I have been giving her Earth's Best soy formula because it is non-GMO, but I am still not sure if I am > > > doing the right thing. Does anyone have any advice? I would greatly appreciate any help. Thank you! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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