Guest guest Posted April 7, 2007 Report Share Posted April 7, 2007 Hi , sorry for my late reply but I have been traveling and I have only just arrived in England. I hope this quote is suitable for you. All the best Benjamin Elephants love playing games, they love playing elephant games. If for some reason you can't imagine any elephants games, then just imagine how difficult it is for them to comprehend the strange games that humans play. The truth is you cannot be an animal lover and use animals for sports, animals are not here for our entertainment, or our games. Elephants are graceful intelligent animals, who have not survived thousands of years to run around a field chasing a ball, and if people who run around fields chasing balls had a fraction of the intelligence of an elephant they would know that. Elephant polo is a cruel sport, and it has to stop. If it's all about the winning let them take away the elephants and use their cars. Dr Benjamin Zephaniah Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 10, 2007 Report Share Posted April 10, 2007 Dear Sir, You having mentioned the name of Mark Shand with a rather...well..... an adjective, I decided to learn a lil more about this 'infamously' famous person. This is what I came across.... http://www.kiplingcamp.com/markshand.html Well I presume that you know this individual on a personal note as opposed to me and with that I am once again surprised that you are using his ideologies on elephants in polo (captivity in general) as a precedent to justify his (and a few other's) support/ no-opposition to polo and down play the on going protests against elephant polo? You are telling me here that someone who rode 1000 of miles in hostile Indian city enviornment instead of providing Tara a better living condition in some sanctury, is the voice of captive elephants? I am sorry Sir... but I beg to differ. Having studied, *tried* to understand and spent time quite evenly with Wild and captive elephants, I would vouch on an exact opposite opinion that you, Mark Shand and others hold. Or may be the paradox lies in your very email... These people who back elephant polo have never learnt what life is for an elephant in the wild. My advice to you people would be to see, understand and live with the elephants in the wild before talking crap about my unfortunate captive friends and coming out with statements claiming that elephants are happy playing polo and similarly rate captivity activities on a scale of elephant happiness and comfort. * " Most also have never seen an elephant polo match--as indeed very few people anywhere ever have, because so few matches are played, in front of so few spectators, with little or no television exposure. I haven't seen an elephant polo match. Neither have the overwhelming majority of elephant polo critics. But I have seen the working elephants of Jaipur, on the job, which most of the elephant polo critics have not, & I guarantee you that if I was an elephant, given the choice of hauling tourists up the mountain, or standing on hot cement waiting for tourists, or milling around on grass with my pals playing elephant polo. I'd pick playing elephant polo in a heartbeat. " * Funny that you speak like a novice in this field....For the less informed...the bulk of the trauma is pre and post match which would be unseen by spectators today (now that ankush is avoided). So it makes no difference if you were out there on the day of the match or not. Its hard to believe that you have rated captivity activities that an elephant painfully endures and made a relative conclusion. you should be glad that no elephants are registered on aapn. Else his/her reply would definitly be less polite than this! Pablo. ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Merritt Clifton <anmlpepl 10 Apr 2007 06:43:12 -0700 Re: Elephant polo: Benjamin Zephaniah registers disapproval aapn >opinions of elephant experts worldwide on 'Elephant Polo'. Mark Shand may be a @#$%, but he certainly qualifies as an elephant expert--and promotes elephant polo. Christine Townend has credentials as an animal advocate second to none, has worked to improve the lives of the working elephants of Jaipur for many years, and also favors elephant polo, especially played without the ankus. In general, the elephant experts trotted out by the opponents of elephant polo have been people who work with wild elephants, and have relatively little background with working elephants. Most also have never seen an elephant polo match--as indeed very few people anywhere ever have, because so few matches are played, in front of so few spectators, with little or no television exposure. I haven't seen an elephant polo match. Neither have the overwhelming majority of elephant polo critics. But I have seen the working elephants of Jaipur, on the job, which most of the elephant polo critics have not, & I guarantee you that if I was an elephant, given the choice of hauling tourists up the mountain, or standing on hot cement waiting for tourists, or milling around on grass with my pals playing elephant polo. I'd pick playing elephant polo in a heartbeat. -- Merritt Clifton Editor, ANIMAL PEOPLE P.O. Box 960 Clinton, WA 98236 Telephone: 360-579-2505 Fax: 360-579-2575 E-mail: anmlpepl <anmlpepl%40whidbey.com> Web: www.animalpeoplenews.org [ANIMAL PEOPLE is the leading independent newspaper providing original investigative coverage of animal protection worldwide, founded in 1992. Our readership of 30,000-plus includes the decision-makers at more than 10,000 animal protection organizations. We have no alignment or affiliation with any other entity. $24/year; for free sample, send address.] -- WOCON: http://groups.google.co.inwocon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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