FW: Ever Wonder How Elephants Are Trained For The Circus?

[Guest guest]

There are multiple styles and philosophies of captive

elephant handling and management, and much that is shown in the PETA

videos is both obsolete and far from universal.

 

Elephant trainers and handlers have been at odds over what

are the best methods for at least 20 years or more, much like dog

trainers, with big divides over whether it is necessary or desirable

to establish " dominance " over the animal.

 

For the past decade-plus the leading teacher of the

" dominance " approach to elephant handling in the U.S. & Europe was

Scott Riddle, who more-or-less succeeded Smokey Jones.

 

Founded in 1994, Riddles' International School for Elephant

Management suspended operations in 2005, " because of lack of

interest from professional keepers, " as Cathy Frye of the Arkansas

Democrat-Gazette put it.

 

Further particulars on current approved handling and training

methods are available from:

 

 

The Elephant Managers Association:

 

http://www.elephant-managers.com/

 

The European Elephant Keepers and Managers Association:

 

http://www.eekma.org/

 

 

 

--

Merritt Clifton

Editor, ANIMAL PEOPLE

P.O. Box 960

Clinton, WA 98236

 

Telephone: 360-579-2505

Fax: 360-579-2575

E-mail: anmlpepl

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[Guest guest]

<approved handling and training

methods >

 

All methods of training and handling of captive elephants worldwide for

human entertainment purpose should be condemned by the Animal People,

rather glorify research on and circulate the so called " approved handling

and training methods " , unless we love to see the gentle giants perform

stupid human tricks.

 

Circuses are no fun for animals ! They do not take part in the 'training'

willingly.

You force them, you instill fear in as many ways possible. You starve them,

you make them realise that there is no GOD that exists, its only you the

DEVIL. And the poor soul finally bows down.

 

Azam

 

On 5/7/07, Merritt Clifton <anmlpepl wrote:

>

> There are multiple styles and philosophies of captive

> elephant handling and management, and much that is shown in the PETA

> videos is both obsolete and far from universal.

>

> Elephant trainers and handlers have been at odds over what

> are the best methods for at least 20 years or more, much like dog

> trainers, with big divides over whether it is necessary or desirable

> to establish " dominance " over the animal.

>

> For the past decade-plus the leading teacher of the

> " dominance " approach to elephant handling in the U.S. & Europe was

> Scott Riddle, who more-or-less succeeded Smokey Jones.

>

> Founded in 1994, Riddles' International School for Elephant

> Management suspended operations in 2005, " because of lack of

> interest from professional keepers, " as Cathy Frye of the Arkansas

> Democrat-Gazette put it.

>

> Further particulars on current approved handling and training

> methods are available from:

>

> The Elephant Managers Association:

>

> http://www.elephant-managers.com/

>

> The European Elephant Keepers and Managers Association:

>

> http://www.eekma.org/

>

> --

> Merritt Clifton

> Editor, ANIMAL PEOPLE

> P.O. Box 960

> Clinton, WA 98236

>

> Telephone: 360-579-2505

> Fax: 360-579-2575

> E-mail: anmlpepl <anmlpepl%40whidbey.com>

> Web: www.animalpeoplenews.org

>

> [ANIMAL PEOPLE is the leading independent newspaper providing

> original investigative coverage of animal protection worldwide,

> founded in 1992. Our readership of 30,000-plus includes the

> decision-makers at more than 10,000 animal protection organizations.

> We have no alignment or affiliation with any other entity. $24/year;

> for free sample, send address.]

>

>

[Guest guest]

I fully endorse this view. There are no good and bad tortures, only

tortures. My warmest regards to you, dear friend.

 

AZAM SIDDIQUI wrote:

 

> <approved handling and training

> methods >

>

> All methods of training and handling of captive elephants worldwide for

> human entertainment purpose should be condemned by the Animal People,

> rather glorify research on and circulate the so called " approved handling

> and training methods " , unless we love to see the gentle giants perform

> stupid human tricks.

>

> Circuses are no fun for animals ! They do not take part in the 'training'

> willingly.

> You force them, you instill fear in as many ways possible. You starve

> them,

> you make them realise that there is no GOD that exists, its only you the

> DEVIL. And the poor soul finally bows down.

>

> Azam

>

> On 5/7/07, Merritt Clifton <anmlpepl

> <anmlpepl%40whidbey.com>> wrote:

> >

> > There are multiple styles and philosophies of captive

> > elephant handling and management, and much that is shown in the PETA

> > videos is both obsolete and far from universal.

> >

> > Elephant trainers and handlers have been at odds over what

> > are the best methods for at least 20 years or more, much like dog

> > trainers, with big divides over whether it is necessary or desirable

> > to establish " dominance " over the animal.

> >

> > For the past decade-plus the leading teacher of the

> > " dominance " approach to elephant handling in the U.S. & Europe was

> > Scott Riddle, who more-or-less succeeded Smokey Jones.

> >

> > Founded in 1994, Riddles' International School for Elephant

> > Management suspended operations in 2005, " because of lack of

> > interest from professional keepers, " as Cathy Frye of the Arkansas

> > Democrat-Gazette put it.

> >

> > Further particulars on current approved handling and training

> > methods are available from:

> >

> > The Elephant Managers Association:

> >

> > http://www.elephant-managers.com/ <http://www.elephant-managers.com/>

> >

> > The European Elephant Keepers and Managers Association:

> >

> > http://www.eekma.org/ <http://www.eekma.org/>

> >

> > --

> > Merritt Clifton

> > Editor, ANIMAL PEOPLE

> > P.O. Box 960

> > Clinton, WA 98236

> >

> > Telephone: 360-579-2505

> > Fax: 360-579-2575

> > E-mail: anmlpepl <anmlpepl%40whidbey.com>

> <anmlpepl%40whidbey.com>

> > Web: www.animalpeoplenews.org

> >

> > [ANIMAL PEOPLE is the leading independent newspaper providing

> > original investigative coverage of animal protection worldwide,

> > founded in 1992. Our readership of 30,000-plus includes the

> > decision-makers at more than 10,000 animal protection organizations.

> > We have no alignment or affiliation with any other entity. $24/year;

> > for free sample, send address.]

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

Re the recent points of view on Merritt posting elephant training

videos I am happy to have these alternative views expressed on AAPN.

PETA, bless them, does great work but are not a reliable source for

unbiased journalism without propaganda. And I am not sure who is a

reliable journalist but just pointing this out.

This brings up a deeper issue which affects all people trying to make

a social change -- are we abolitionists only or do we support reform.

It is obvious that there are both types of these people on this list

and in

the animal advocacy movement. This is an old debate. Personally I

favor each do their heart's calling according to their best judgment.

Otherwise the result will be that each one of us is emailing and

listserving only to people who completely agree with us.

kind regards,

[Guest guest]

Concerning ¹s comments on Merritt¹s comments,

 

> ³Re the recent points of view on Merritt posting elephant training

> videos I am happy to have these alternative views expressed on AAPN.

> PETA, bless them, does great work but are not a reliable source for

> unbiased journalism without propaganda. And I am not sure who is a

> reliable journalist but just pointing this out.

>

> This brings up a deeper issue which affects all people trying to make

> a social change -- are we abolitionists only or do we support reform.

> It is obvious that there are both types of these people on this list

> and in the animal advocacy movement. This is an old debate. Personally I

> favor each do their heart's calling according to their best judgment.

>

> Otherwise the result will be that each one of us is emailing and

> listserving only to people who completely agree with us.

> kind regards, ²

 

, you are making some very profound points, which will be helpful to

remember!

 

Thank you!

Sharon

 

Sharon St. Joan

International Writer and Consultant

Bird and Wildlife Specialist

Best Friends Network

Best Friends Animal Society

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