Guest guest Posted June 27, 2007 Report Share Posted June 27, 2007 Different folks, different strokes. Well I sincerely believe that Western countries can push for a change by for example implementing (high) import taxes on all goods from China until they will respect human and animal rights; this is the right of any consumer (country). China is never opposed by any country, including the neighbors that suffer so badly as their natural resources are being plundered with Chinese money (e.g. wood and wildlife from Indonesia and Burma and tigers from India and Thailand) I know that not all Chinese people are the same, but it is quite obvious that the majority does not care, and certainly not the current oppressive government. There is a lot of new money and they like to spend it on the exploitation and consumption of wildlife for one thing. While they boasting about their success of conserving the panda, they are plundering their neighbors forests. I too lived in China for a while and feel they will only listen or make a change if it is going to cost them (money). If an international cry out follows an event like the one on the video the Chinese will have to listen, as less people will want to go on a holiday to a country of cruel people or want to buy their products. I am a Dutch citizen, and know of a few Dutch people being (big) involved in the illegal wildlife trade. I am working on getting them locked up as we speak. It is a matter of honor to me. Edwin Wiek WFFT Thailand Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 27, 2007 Report Share Posted June 27, 2007 Here again!!! I do not understand why has the focus shifted onto something so trivial. Why is there so much of a hue and cry for all the wrong reasons? Country A is at war with country Z for reasons they justify with..... a person in country " I " may think country A is wrong and say " 'A'cans are crazy " . Now does that mean the " I " ian thinks every individual in " A " is wrong? Definitly NOT because there are many " A " cans who are also against the war. We are talking of the masses here, the government who represent the masses...the government and authorities who represent the country. So when someone like Edwin, whom I look upto as a senior member in this field, makes a statement about China, someone as junior as me understands what he indicates in his email and that I need to focus on the issue.... Not bothering about how politically correct the sentence was. So I expect more than just debating on which country is good/ bad, from my senior folks out here. If we go around doing this, we as well send our emails first to some Englist Prof and upon confirmation of its correctness (politically) post the email. Folks, consider this is a humble suggestion from probably your junior-most colleague.... We all know that we are here together for one single objective, and our objective is to make a difference in the lives of our friends in the wild, in the towns and at homes.....no matter in which country or place they are in. Regards, Pablo. On 6/27/07, Edwin Wiek <edwin.wiek wrote: > > Different folks, different strokes. > > Well I sincerely believe that Western countries can push for a change by > for > example implementing (high) import taxes on all goods from China until > they > will respect human and animal rights; this is the right of any consumer > (country). China is never opposed by any country, including the neighbors > that suffer so badly as their natural resources are being plundered with > Chinese money (e.g. wood and wildlife from Indonesia and Burma and tigers > from India and Thailand) I know that not all Chinese people are the same, > but it is quite obvious that the majority does not care, and certainly not > the current oppressive government. There is a lot of new money and they > like > to spend it on the exploitation and consumption of wildlife for one thing. > While they boasting about their success of conserving the panda, they are > plundering their neighbors forests. > > I too lived in China for a while and feel they will only listen or make a > change if it is going to cost them (money). If an international cry out > follows an event like the one on the video the Chinese will have to > listen, > as less people will want to go on a holiday to a country of cruel people > or > want to buy their products. > > I am a Dutch citizen, and know of a few Dutch people being (big) involved > in > the illegal wildlife trade. I am working on getting them locked up as we > speak. It is a matter of honor to me. > > Edwin Wiek > > WFFT Thailand > > -- WOCON: http://groups.google.co.inwocon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 27, 2007 Report Share Posted June 27, 2007 Dear Edwin, Really appreciate it!! You're absolutely right. There are good and bad people everywhere. Opposition and isolation will only breed more horror. As a global AR network, we need strategy. And different cultures need different strategies. I agree with you very much, Edwin, that only economic pressure can make Chinese change. (FYI, I live all my life, until 1997, under British rule, in Hong Kong. Afterall, it's ulimately money that is causing most of the cruelty. Moral stuff doesn't work particularly at this moment in China's history. People who know about modern history of China, especially about the " cultural revolution " in Mao Sze Tung's times, will understand why. Mao seeded tremendous damage, not only to China, but to the world. Food safety is a brilliant case in point. David Wong Hong Kong Edwin Wiek wrote: > Different folks, different strokes. > > Well I sincerely believe that Western countries can push for a change > by for > example implementing (high) import taxes on all goods from China until > they > will respect human and animal rights; this is the right of any consumer > (country). China is never opposed by any country, including the neighbors > that suffer so badly as their natural resources are being plundered with > Chinese money (e.g. wood and wildlife from Indonesia and Burma and tigers > from India and Thailand) I know that not all Chinese people are the same, > but it is quite obvious that the majority does not care, and certainly not > the current oppressive government. There is a lot of new money and > they like > to spend it on the exploitation and consumption of wildlife for one thing. > While they boasting about their success of conserving the panda, they are > plundering their neighbors forests. > > I too lived in China for a while and feel they will only listen or make a > change if it is going to cost them (money). If an international cry out > follows an event like the one on the video the Chinese will have to > listen, > as less people will want to go on a holiday to a country of cruel > people or > want to buy their products. > > I am a Dutch citizen, and know of a few Dutch people being (big) > involved in > the illegal wildlife trade. I am working on getting them locked up as we > speak. It is a matter of honor to me. > > Edwin Wiek > > WFFT Thailand > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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