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Thanks a ton for those answers !

 

Now I hope some people do understand why i had pressed the panic button. It

only takes a few years of continuous living in a city to understand what we

can expect from the government and 25 years in Bangalore I think is long

enough for me to understand that if we dont act, we are invariably giving up

the dogs for sacrifice.

 

And as mentioned in point 2, if the ABC rule is done away with, any hopes of

stabilizing an eco system will be lost! All the work done by the various

orgs till now will go waste let alone the money invested into it (an approx

of 5 crores in the last 5 years)

 

And the point 3, as far as I have seen from past cases, forget long term,

only 5% of the illegal meat shops will be shut down and that too as Eillen

mentioned, temporarily!

 

If the situation is downplayed now, things wil be back to square one in the

next week or so! So its upto us to keep up the pressure and I urgue all the

others to keep the pressure on the government and the civic authorities

and capitalize on the present situation for a long term benefit for both us

and the dogs!

 

Thanks,

Pablo

 

 

On 3/5/07, Weintraub <weintraub wrote:

>

> Re Pablo's queries are below are these answers that I am sending on

> behalf of informed insider from Bangalore.

> -------------------------

>

> 1. NGOs fear that culling of sterilized dogs have started. Any complaints

> of residents not wanting dogs in their area, will have to be

> addressed.......because of relentless public pressure, there are hundreds of

> complaints.....the meat shop, markets, railway stations etc. all have

> sterilized dogs but these may be killed, due to relentless media

> sensationalising the issue, beyond any rational norms. Some group,

> individuals, political bodies etc. maybe behind this whole thing, many

> citizens are seeing some kind of a plot unravelling to discredit the present

> Govt.

>

> 2. The Minister wants specifically to overturn the Animal Birth Control

> Rules, a part of the PCA Act. He is not bothered about anything else. Just

> wants legal sanction to killing, which presently is not allowed.

>

> 3. It may be effective in the short, cosmetic run......not sure about its

> long-term viability, since Karnataka is well known for corruption. All meat

> shops will be back after due payments to concerned authorities !

> --------------------------

> queries below:

>

> But just a few questions so that I can be clear and spread the messege to

> all the other activists in Bangalore:

> " Bruhat Bangalore Mahanagara Palike (BBMP) on Friday announced a raft of

> measures, including putting mad, ferocious and rabid dogs to sleep. All

> other stray dogs will be sterilised. "

> >> The " ferocity " of a dog would be determined by who and how? I am just

> concerned as they should not use vague terms and find an excuse to cull as

> many dogs as they find.

>

> " The Health Minister, explaining the legal hurdles that prevented the

> Government from killing dogs, said he would write to the Union Government to

> amend the Prevention of Cruelty to Animals Act, 1960. "

> >> Do you people see any negative effects if the Act was to be amended???

>

> " Mr. Jairaj said all unauthorised mutton stalls and those selling mutton

> on pavements would be immediately closed, as there were complaints that the

> stall owners threw leftovers out in the open, which dogs fed on . "

> >> I really think we need to press for a deadline else it will be just

> another " pot-hole free Bangalore promise " that was never met and then

> forgotten conveniently by the government and also the public!

>

>

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Dear All.

 

I am very sad to hear about the issues affecting dogs in Bangalore and hope that

things work out for humans and animals. Between 1996 and 1998 I was travelling

to Bangalore from Hong Kong a lot on business. I remember the SPCA in Cubbon

Park and visiting their head quarters in the suburbs. A friend of mine (a

resident of Bangalore) adopted a street dog and she turned out to be a loving

companion. Many of the street dogs are beautiful dogs and only need kindness.

I have a girl from Hong Kong who we adopted from the SPCA who was a street dog

and has tuned out to be the most sweet and intelligent companion. She now lives

with us in Perth Western Australia. I have heard that the Asian street

dog-(from India to China) is the basis for our dingo (the Australian native

dog). They often look the same with the pointed ears and the colouring. The

dingo is clever and if domesticated is an affectionate companion. However,

knowing how the millions of dogs barely survive on the outskirts of the world's

cities would you as a dog (wolf) come in from the forest or the desert to sit by

that campfire?

Hoping for some sort of positive outcome.

 

Chris Osborn

Perth Western Australia

 

-

Pablo

Weintraub

Cc: aapn

Monday, March 05, 2007 2:30 PM

Re: Dogs/India/ Bangalore answers to queries

 

 

Thanks a ton for those answers !

 

Now I hope some people do understand why i had pressed the panic button. It

only takes a few years of continuous living in a city to understand what we

can expect from the government and 25 years in Bangalore I think is long

enough for me to understand that if we dont act, we are invariably giving up

the dogs for sacrifice.

 

And as mentioned in point 2, if the ABC rule is done away with, any hopes of

stabilizing an eco system will be lost! All the work done by the various

orgs till now will go waste let alone the money invested into it (an approx

of 5 crores in the last 5 years)

 

And the point 3, as far as I have seen from past cases, forget long term,

only 5% of the illegal meat shops will be shut down and that too as Eillen

mentioned, temporarily!

 

If the situation is downplayed now, things wil be back to square one in the

next week or so! So its upto us to keep up the pressure and I urgue all the

others to keep the pressure on the government and the civic authorities

and capitalize on the present situation for a long term benefit for both us

and the dogs!

 

Thanks,

Pablo

 

On 3/5/07, Weintraub <weintraub wrote:

>

> Re Pablo's queries are below are these answers that I am sending on

> behalf of informed insider from Bangalore.

> -------------------------

>

> 1. NGOs fear that culling of sterilized dogs have started. Any complaints

> of residents not wanting dogs in their area, will have to be

> addressed.......because of relentless public pressure, there are hundreds of

> complaints.....the meat shop, markets, railway stations etc. all have

> sterilized dogs but these may be killed, due to relentless media

> sensationalising the issue, beyond any rational norms. Some group,

> individuals, political bodies etc. maybe behind this whole thing, many

> citizens are seeing some kind of a plot unravelling to discredit the present

> Govt.

>

> 2. The Minister wants specifically to overturn the Animal Birth Control

> Rules, a part of the PCA Act. He is not bothered about anything else. Just

> wants legal sanction to killing, which presently is not allowed.

>

> 3. It may be effective in the short, cosmetic run......not sure about its

> long-term viability, since Karnataka is well known for corruption. All meat

> shops will be back after due payments to concerned authorities !

> --------------------------

> queries below:

>

> But just a few questions so that I can be clear and spread the messege to

> all the other activists in Bangalore:

> " Bruhat Bangalore Mahanagara Palike (BBMP) on Friday announced a raft of

> measures, including putting mad, ferocious and rabid dogs to sleep. All

> other stray dogs will be sterilised. "

> >> The " ferocity " of a dog would be determined by who and how? I am just

> concerned as they should not use vague terms and find an excuse to cull as

> many dogs as they find.

>

> " The Health Minister, explaining the legal hurdles that prevented the

> Government from killing dogs, said he would write to the Union Government to

> amend the Prevention of Cruelty to Animals Act, 1960. "

> >> Do you people see any negative effects if the Act was to be amended???

>

> " Mr. Jairaj said all unauthorised mutton stalls and those selling mutton

> on pavements would be immediately closed, as there were complaints that the

> stall owners threw leftovers out in the open, which dogs fed on . "

> >> I really think we need to press for a deadline else it will be just

> another " pot-hole free Bangalore promise " that was never met and then

> forgotten conveniently by the government and also the public!

>

>

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