Guest guest Posted October 30, 2006 Report Share Posted October 30, 2006 Dear John, thanks for this clarification. Here in Lanka we have much experience with government officials trying to cover up facts and creating an image of Sri Lanka heading towards scietific and humane dog-management. I was therefore sceptical when I read about the Beijing mayor's statement when it appeared on aapn a while ago and more inclined to believe your friend's description of the real situation. Padma - Dr John Wedderburn aapn Tuesday, October 31, 2006 2:46 PM Re: FWD: (CN) Real Situation for Dogs Dear Merritt, Thank you for your incisive comments which, as usual, are very helpful in stimulating debate and establishing the truth of situations. > There are several aspects of this anonymous message that I > find problematic, not the least of which is that it appears to be > from someone who speaks and writes English as a first language, > not as a second language learned in adulthood. The writer is Chinese and has mostly resided in Beijing but has spent some time in the West. > Anonymity can be a way to hide from censors, but it can also > be a way to disseminate misinformation without accountability. I have known the writer for many years and I can assure you she has no intention of disseminating misinformation. Her opinion, like anyone else's, could of course be wrong but I am certain that she is describing accurately her assessment of the situation. Also, I have received a number of private e-mails agreeing with her assessment. > In the Internet era, tracing e-mails back to source is > relatively easy for a technologically sophisticated police state > that happens to have a monopoly on electronic communications. Since I copied and pasted her letter there would be no electronic trail - I don't think sophisticated technology would work, but thumbscrews could do the trick. > Therefore, anonymity does not protect this poster so much > from repression as from questions. I am sure she will be happy to answer your questions either through me or by private e-mail to yourself. > Such as, how does this person realy know any more than > anyone else what the truth is? She is certainly close to the situation and well-informed - but, as I said above, she may of course be wrong. > Are we to believe that the government propaganda machine > includes not only all the journalists with state media, but also > all of those with foreign media who are reporting similar things? As you must know, there are strong pressures on any journalist who wishes to continue to work in China. > Are we to believe that there is a conspiracy afoot in China > to cover up brutality by dogcatchers, when many of the major > Chinese news media have published detailed exposes of same, > with photographs, and have even published photos and > accounts of citizens fighting back against the authorities on > behalf of their dogs, without a hint of condemnation? As you pointed out in an earlier e-mail, the publicity given to the recent dog culls was very encouraging. But it could be that the authorities have decided that they had allowed too much freedom and the country's reputation was being damaaged. > The reports, photos, etc. that have come my way from inside > the Beijing shelters show facilities and activity that would > compare well with most animal control centers in the U.S. I find that difficult to believe unless the U.S. dog pounds are much worse than I thought (maybe they are, I have never visited one!) John. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 31, 2006 Report Share Posted October 31, 2006 Dear Merritt, Thank you for your incisive comments which, as usual, are very helpful in stimulating debate and establishing the truth of situations. > There are several aspects of this anonymous message that I > find problematic, not the least of which is that it appears to be > from someone who speaks and writes English as a first language, > not as a second language learned in adulthood. The writer is Chinese and has mostly resided in Beijing but has spent some time in the West. > Anonymity can be a way to hide from censors, but it can also > be a way to disseminate misinformation without accountability. I have known the writer for many years and I can assure you she has no intention of disseminating misinformation. Her opinion, like anyone else's, could of course be wrong but I am certain that she is describing accurately her assessment of the situation. Also, I have received a number of private e-mails agreeing with her assessment. > In the Internet era, tracing e-mails back to source is > relatively easy for a technologically sophisticated police state > that happens to have a monopoly on electronic communications. Since I copied and pasted her letter there would be no electronic trail - I don't think sophisticated technology would work, but thumbscrews could do the trick. > Therefore, anonymity does not protect this poster so much > from repression as from questions. I am sure she will be happy to answer your questions either through me or by private e-mail to yourself. > Such as, how does this person realy know any more than > anyone else what the truth is? She is certainly close to the situation and well-informed - but, as I said above, she may of course be wrong. > Are we to believe that the government propaganda machine > includes not only all the journalists with state media, but also > all of those with foreign media who are reporting similar things? As you must know, there are strong pressures on any journalist who wishes to continue to work in China. > Are we to believe that there is a conspiracy afoot in China > to cover up brutality by dogcatchers, when many of the major > Chinese news media have published detailed exposes of same, > with photographs, and have even published photos and > accounts of citizens fighting back against the authorities on > behalf of their dogs, without a hint of condemnation? As you pointed out in an earlier e-mail, the publicity given to the recent dog culls was very encouraging. But it could be that the authorities have decided that they had allowed too much freedom and the country's reputation was being damaaged. > The reports, photos, etc. that have come my way from inside > the Beijing shelters show facilities and activity that would > compare well with most animal control centers in the U.S. I find that difficult to believe unless the U.S. dog pounds are much worse than I thought (maybe they are, I have never visited one!) John. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 2, 2006 Report Share Posted November 2, 2006 The media in China is ordered not to publish anything on the positive aspect of pet dog. Some reporters exaggerated the rabies situation in Beijing, mixing the idea of the number of people who went to the hospital for the rabies vaccination with the number of rabies patients. Actually according to the announcement of the Ministry of Health, there were only 301 deaths all over China from rabies from Jan. to Aug. this year. There was only one death in Beijing, in which the patient was biten by a dog when she was in Henan province. During the past years, the government never took any strict control on the raise of big dogs although they were forbidden in the pet dog regulation. The big dogs were bred, sold and advertised everywhere, which actually encouraged the common people to buy a big dog as a pet. Every year there was a period when the police check the dog license but never strictly implemented. That's why more and more unlicensed dogs appear. Now with the rabies problem and more complaints about dog emerging, the government choosed the simplest way, that is, to get rid of the dogs who have lived for several years with the tacit consent of the authority. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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