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Beijing citizens discuss " civilized dog raising "

Xinhua

2006-11-17

 

BEIJING -- Beijing citizens have been heatedly discussing how to raise dogs in a

civilized manner in order to prevent rabies and enhance pet management.

 

" Abandoning dogs should be outlawed by the government " , " Dog owners should be

trained and have to pass tests " , " The public must know how registration fees are

spent " -- these were just some of the suggestions made by delegates attending a

" civilized dog raising " forum on Thursday.

 

11 people, including pet owners, local lawmakers and local political advisors,

were invited to the forum, held by Beijing News, to discuss how to raise dogs in

a civilized way.

 

More than 1400 people simultaneously took part in the discussion on the paper's

website.

 

The details of the forum were published in Friday's Beijing News. The organizer

of the forum said all the suggestions would be passed on to government to help

with policy-making.

 

" It's good we made our voices heard in the media and we hope the government will

listen to our suggestions, " said Niu Xiaoxia, a dog owner from Dongcheng

District and one of the delegates.

 

Given the problems caused by stray or abandoned pets, almost all the delegates

agreed that the government should introduce harsh punishments for those who

abandon their pets.

 

" Adopting stray pets should be encouraged, " said Niu. " The government could

lower registration fees for people who adopt stray dogs. "

 

Meitao, from Haidian District, said that many hygiene and environmental problems

are caused by dog owners' negligence, such as refusing to clean up excrement and

letting their pets roam unleashed.

 

He said that, in return for the annual management fees it collects from dog

owners, the government should train dog owners in basic dog raising skills and

regulations.

 

" Dog owners should have to get a license to raise a dog, just like we need a

driving license to be able to drive a car, " Mei said.

 

Other delegates held that dog registration fee should be spent on policing

activities.

 

According to official figures, Beijing police collect 80 million yuan (about

9.64 million U.S. dollars) from local dog owners each year. Typically, dog

owners pay 1,000 yuan the first year, and 500 every year afterwards.

 

Early this year, the Beijing Municipal Bureau of Public Security said

registration fees are handed over to the fiscal authority.

 

Beijing is to implement a " one dog, one family " policy in its bid to step up the

fight against rabies, a fatal disease which claimed 318 lives nationwide in

September.

 

The new policy was contained in a circular issued early November by the city's

Public Security Bureau, Agriculture Bureau, Administration for Industry and

Commerce and the city's law enforcement authorities for urban administration.

 

The circular listed nine districts -- including Dongcheng, Xicheng, Chongwen,

Xuanwu, Chaoyang, Haidian, Fengtai and Shijingshan -- as major management zones.

 

On November 8, police made house calls in Beijing's luxury villa areas to check

on illegal dog keeping. They discovered six large, unlicensed dogs.

 

By November 13, the canine inspection section of the municipal bureau of public

security had rounded up 500 stray, unlicensed or abandoned dogs.

 

Beijing now has more than 550,000 registered dogs, up 20 percent on the previous

year.

 

http://www.chinadaily.com.cn/china/2006-11/17/content_736410.htm

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The Beijing News organized this forum, maybe it will be of no interest to the

government but it surely meant something to the people involved. Maybe it will

be the start of more discussions of this nature. It was innovative of the

Beijing News to organize this.

 

Link to the original Beijing News page about the Forum (In Chinese)

 

http://news.thebeijingnews.com/0554/2006/11-17/011 (AT) 222520 (DOT) htm

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[Following is a bad machine translation of the Beijing News page about the

Forum, unfortunately this is the best Google Translation can do. It mostly is

confusing but for those able and willing to plough through it, there are a few

items that can be understood and the gist of some others also.]

 

'Raised by public officials face-to-face talks civilization'

 

Raised by the introduction of this civilization Forum, representatives of the

proposed dog " certificates " , more than 1,000 users concerned about the progress

Forum

 

At Beijing how to manage them? For the balance of dog and non-dog conflicts, the

community can do to form self-governing how much? 10:00 a.m. to 12:00 p.m.

yesterday, in our fifth floor conference room, stray light problems five

representatives of the people and NPC deputies, CPPCC members, government

officials face-to-face discussion. Representative of the people attending the

" dog who qualification certificates, " a number of recommendations.

 

200 readers to participate in the discussion

 

Our " civilized dog Forum " since November 3, 2003, readers reacted. On the 14th,

this newspaper published a collection of four members of the public to

participate in discussions spot news, hundreds of readers made a phone call to

participate. In the evening the day before the forum, a few readers sent " do not

speak, they may also observe the proceedings. " But by the venue ended, only five

representatives of the people into the stadium. By the end of the forum

yesterday, more than 200 readers, through telephones, e-mails, letters and

networks participate in the discussion. www.thebeijingnews.com

In the new Jingbaowang (www.Thebeijingnews.com), " Civilization Forum Raised. "

1400 Forum on the progress of concern to many users through the network.

 

Forum tip of the wheat field

 

Yesterday, a total of 11 representatives of the parties to participate in the

forum, of whom six dog, five non-dog person. Participants include: City People's

Congress, member of the CPPCC city, the Beijing Municipal Office of the Joint

dog management units, Beijing public health departments, to manage Raised King

Community Association and representatives of the people. In order to participate

in the forum, we are fully prepared to do almost everyone, are poring over the

voluminous information.

 

Forum debate focuses on four areas: treason; Dog annual registration fees,

nowhere; After the service quality of government fees and charges; the

feasibility of community self-management. 11 representatives, the number of dog

and non-dog close, it often views " antagonistic " For instance, some people think

that it should be reduced dog registration fees for inspection, the way to solve

the problem of stray dogs and illegal immigrant. be immediately refuted claims

that the existing charges, trying to control the number of dogs in Beijing.

 

Raised suggestions from the public management control car

 

Before the discussions, all citizens have proposed a two proposals. Meitao

representatives of the public, management can learn from the dog, vehicle

management, " car car permits have license, brake vehicles can not, do not drive,

are not highway; Dogs should also have dogs in dog permits would be eligible for

certification. Raised to ensure people have a certain quality. "

 

" Did not say enough, a little short of time. " The end of the meeting that

although it had until noon. We hope the public can extend the time for

discussion. " We cherish this opportunity to exchange, I hope the government will

accept our views. " The people who attended the forum, said: different views and

proposals through the media, and representatives of government departments and

members sit face-to-face communication. Beijing city, and to demonstrate their

commitment to their own homes and make a heart.

 

Focus one dilemma

 

Department million fine should be abandoned dogs

 

Powerful Measures in a Niu Xiaoxia representatives of the public, and sparked

heated discussions

 

Have to punish the other hand, we want to reward. The government should reward

the adoption of stray acts, such as reduction of management fees. Adoption of

stray because it is a charitable act, but also to reduce the burden on the

government. Raised among the dogs in exchange platform can be dogs who do not

want to sell dog.

 

Scene

 

10:10, the Forum has just started, stray triggered heated discussions on the

issue.

 

Cao Bao Moderator: India went straight to the cities briefed the participants on

issues of concern dog, some people abandoned pets, stray markedly increased.

India's experience shows that capture stray unlikely to rabies control, the most

effective way Putin is beginning to give their dogs vaccinated. Cao Bao Indian

representatives asked what views.

 

Dongcheng District resident NIU Xiaoxia then speak on behalf of the public. She

apparently had come prepared to speak out the script is packed with more than 10

recommendations. NIU Xiaoxia said, " Beijing dog " Regulations on the Management

of Article 17 provides that " no abuse has abandoned dog. " but not punitive

measures.

 

She suggested from the practice of animal abandonment legislation for the

imposition of a fine of 10,000 yuan. detained for 15 days and the severe

punishment. Her " relentless " one and that the venue was in a tumult.

 

" One the one hand to punish the other hand, we want to reward. " Niu Xiaoxia went

on to say: " The government should award the adoption of stray, incentives is to

reduce management costs. She suggested the adoption of stray residents 300 yuan

for the first year of management fees, After each 200 yuan. " This is because the

adoption of stray is a charitable act, but also to reduce the burden on the

government. " Hearing that, some deputies began nodding approval, others were

quietly asking, " Who knows recommendations will be adopted. "

 

" I do not keep dogs, but I like dogs. " Dong, a deputy of the Beijing Municipal

People's Congress have also expressed their opinions on the dilemma. She

believes that the dogs should be taken to shelters before the podium to resolve

problems.

 

Several people also criticized the dog is not random acts of abandoned animals.

Haidian district people's representatives Meitao summary won Members.

 

He said that the life of the life of another dog is a lifetime commitment.

Hsiung Cheng, deputy director of the Beijing Center for Disease Control and

Prevention, listened to his speech, nodded silently in their seats also.

 

Proposal

 

Government legislation and severely punish abandoned animals

 

Enacting laws to punish acts willfully abandoned animals. Italy, the United

Kingdom and Hong Kong have abandoned animals on the punishment, China can learn

from these practices. proposed the abandoned animals, a fine of 10,000 yuan and

detained for 15 days.

 

Moreover, the government can encourage appropriate relief in the form of

adoption of stray dog management. Frederick stay where media published

photographs of wild dogs were confiscated and, to facilitate and encourage the

public to adopt. While checking in every stray for at least three months should

be handled according to international practice. dogs to find some time to

master.

 

East-dong, a deputy of the Beijing Municipal People's Congress, among dog in the

dog exchange platform Raised by dogs do not want to sell to people who want to

be cared for, to reduce the disposal of animal behavior. authorities also reduce

the workload.

 

Response

 

Yesterday morning, the person in charge of the Office for Joint Urban Raised by

management, much to the community in Haidian District, meeting with residents.

In view of stray, City Public Security Bureau is responsible for the management

of Dog Management Division said that the police are working with is the

agricultural sector. The local administration departments to control stray cats,

stray problem, it is proposed to establish special departments.

 

Focus two dogs costs

 

There space charges dropped?

 

Raised fees for larger differences, it was said that the key question is open

accounts

 

Reduced registration fees again, this would not have been an excuse for the

registration fee, not to rush or abandoned dogs. :: Facts show no drop, the

lower the cost, the more the number of dogs.

 

Scene

 

First-year pay 1,000 yuan, a year after the 500, which is now, the dog charges.

Yesterday, against this standard, the delegates at the forum also launched a

fierce controversy, one that standards must be dropped. because of the high

cost, and a stray dog license; the other that only maintain the status quo. The

reason is the " Beijing should control the number of dogs. "

 

Or NIU Xiaoxia first speaker. First she threw out a price perspective, the

" Registration fees should be reduced again, the first year of 300 yuan. After

each 200 yuan. This was not an excuse for the high registration fees, to

maintain it. Rush abandoned dogs or not. " She just accounts, the average life

expectancy of 15 years in accordance with dogs, to raise one dog, A single

registration fee alone costing the nearest million and some high.

 

However, her views Wenglan East immediately by deputies, CPPCC members Lai Ping

opposition. " Not dropped, only to maintain the status quo. " Wenglan, said that

from 2003 to this year, the number of dogs is increasing year by year, this year

reached 550,000, This fact shows that the lower the cost, the more the number of

dogs; Lai Ping and her views coincide : Currently, between the dog and non-dog

people, and has formed a number of contradictions. Has its own limits to any

other city, a metropolis of Beijing, Dogs should be properly controlling the

total cities, and let it spread.

 

Application List Yuan Yuan, Yu Hua several other representatives of the people

are vying said that charges be dropped, or maintaining the status quo. One of

the key issues to be resolved, the public accounts to the public, cost

transparency, open whereabouts. Registration fees should be used for other

purposes, the cost for a dog to supervise. Application List Yuan Yuan said that

many people complain Raised annual pay several hundred yuan, but there are not

many who used their own dogs. Only one can think up spending --- vaccine costs.

 

" Media have reported that so far this year, 10 people died of rabies after being

bitten. no vaccination. dogs must be timely vaccination This is everyone knows

the health knowledge. Why should they give up their protection? Only one of the

reasons several hundred yuan vaccine injection, could not bear. " She suggested

that the fees collected from registration, the establishment of public

assistance funds When life groups were bitten by dogs, stray people have been

bitten, by the Fund to play a role.

 

Hsiung Cheng, deputy director of the Beijing Center for Disease Control and

Prevention, said, " As a relatively Objectively speaking, The departments in

charge of their own, funding comes from the different interests involved, the

required balance. "

 

Proposal

 

Raised fees should be open accounts

 

Raised in favor of lowering the fees of the people think that the current high

cost, the fact that some people will take the abandoned dog or not. causing

stray increase.

 

The opposition said that Beijing should control the total number of dog, if the

cost is lower, the number of dogs will be more The dogs were conflicts will

increase. But also the public that the charges are key issues is whether or not

to reduce the accounts to the public.

 

Response

 

Earlier, the Police Dog Management, the responsible persons interviewed said

that although the dog who pay registration fees to the public security organ.

However, the public security organs is collecting departments, all city funds

were transferred to the finance sector, is handed over to the treasury.

 

focus of government services

 

After the course the government can do?

 

Raised by a variety of methods to help the government to allow the public a

civilized people skills Raised

 

(Settlement) does not like dogs and the dog uncivilized conflicts should be

investigated by the dogs to manage people. Use the vehicle management system

certification dogs are dogs, a dog qualification certificates. Functional

departments should strengthen the education of the dog, dogs fault, the main

dogs trained to do training.

 

Scene

 

'Between the dog and non-dog people,' This is not accurate. Rather, be 'dogs do

not like the dog and uncivilized contradictions'. Raised public sector

management functions on behalf of Huang Fei suggested the focus should be

investigated by the dogs, to manage people, she had just finished, on the

unanimous cheers by the people around him.

 

Huang Fei just finished, the public Meitao then elaborated his views. Meitao

said, uncivilized behavior Raised conflict triggered by the actual result is

that some people Raised dog skills tests, therefore, Raised by the two cities

threshold should be set up, one for dogs and one for dog people and dog people

aware of their responsibilities. " Vehicle inspection is necessary, the driver

must have a license to drive the same token, the dog must master certain skills.

restrain their dogs how civilization. " At the forum, said that China should

learn once Meitao vehicle management, dogs are dogs cards be eligible for

certification.

 

Lai public safety that the " Regulations on Management of Beijing dog, " while not

tying dogs dogs banned mega-chain, Anti-specific issues such as a dog 89

penalties, but the dog owners really be almost no punishment, therefore,

existing regulations operability is not strong, functional departments should be

modified to increase mitigation measures.

 

Members of the public, the most active cattle Xiaoxia, almost every question,

could not express their views. She believes that the government Raised

management services still have a lot of work to do: run a civilization worthy of

dog newspaper, Raised by people who do not start with discussions between the

dog; Assistants to introduce traffic patterns hire laid-off workers. Raised as

community caretakers, will help dog owners clean up dog, tying dog chain; Dog

control market, selling dogs, Dog owners should permit previously been

vaccinated.

 

â€Representatives of the people-meter FM repeatedly stated that " the focus

should not be the size of dogs. Raised whether the law should be. In some

countries, if not bringing some Daxingquan 'masks' the streets, if caught,

immediately will be punished with heavy fines. "

 

Proposal

 

Dog people government can employ full-time community management

 

Raised functions of key departments should be investigated by the dogs, to

manage people. The dog must master certain skills, the dogs themselves

civilized.

 

Existing regulations operability is not strong, functional departments should be

modified to increase mitigation measures, such as setting up community dog

training, Raised to strengthen the education. Dog mistakes trained dog owners to

do the training.

 

Raised newspaper advocating the government can do civilized conduct between the

dog and non-dog person; be able to hire laid-off workers, community Raised as a

caretaker, a dog will help dog owners clean up, tying dog chain. Dog control

market, the sale of dogs, dogs should have permits previously been vaccinated.

 

Response

 

Police said earlier, a responsible person, in various forms, is to strengthen

the dog training Under community have hired armed services bases professional

instructors, teaching residents how to stop dogs barking, how to train dogs

sentinel 89. In future, such training will be expanded scale.

 

Raised by self-focus 4

 

Raised community can manage unreasonable?

 

Raised in the public who support community self-management at the same time

expressed concern about the feasibility of the mode

 

Civic self-management, and discuss and solve various contradictions, could

defuse the confrontation between dog and the feeling of confrontation. However,

the public security organs do not have a similar deterrent effect on law

enforcement agencies, who were unreasonable and not conscious dog. how they

manage? Manage only want to be convinced, we will be able to probation

unreasonable dog people.

 

Scene

 

Raised to manage community associations, which is the new management model dog.

As president of this latest model, the new King Community residents said Zhang

Jian, managed only want to be convinced. Raised on probation who can not

conscious. However, there are people on the feasibility of this new model, the

worry.

 

Lai Ping said: " The citizens of self-management, and discuss and solve various

contradictions, not from the coercive power of law enforcement agencies. This is

certainly a very good program, the dog can defuse the confrontation and the

feeling of confrontation. However, Public security organs do not have a similar

deterrent effect on law enforcement agencies, who said that, the dog is

conscious, how they manage?

 

See " self-control " forms are being questioned, Zhang Jianxin immediately,

" Raised by the majority of the people are willing to civilization Raised;

'manage' only want to be convinced, we will be able to probation. Raised by

people who are not motivated to conquer. " She said that her dog everywhere

because the district had 89. lead dog, non-dog people contradictions, therefore,

to manage the association's first task is to clean up dog. " We have several

association members see on the dog seized. If there beside the dog owners, said

the air 'not brought paper? I have to help you rub'. people are concerned about

face-saving, and down several times, we are conscious dog owners not stand. they

started to clean the dogs themselves. " She believed that for the dog groups to

encourage more effective than punishment, " our association, Raised more than six

months before the start of its members have been only 20. Raised by the majority

of people have joined. This is the 'encourages' strength. "

 

NIU Xiaoxia, some more room for self-management district, various contradictions

dog, get community discussions to resolve.

 

Proposal

 

Raised contradictions can get community discussions

 

" Raised by the majority of the people are willing to civilization Raised in the

community, to achieve the goal of civilized dog. encourage more effective than

punishment. Raised by various conflicts, to get the community to discuss what

the dog, then what should dependents, Community owners were adopted without a

vote. " As long as management solution to manage convinced, we will be able to

probation. Raised by people who are not motivated to conquer.

 

Yesterday, more than dog people have indicated that they are eager to set up

their own self-governing district associations.

 

Response

 

A responsible person, the police said, the city's communities, the Association

will establish a self-regulatory body dog, its main duty is to address the moral

issues, such as disturbing the dog barking at the sun, and so on dog feces and

urine everywhere. Raised to improve the quality of the people.

 

[1 spot Others

 

Homemade " urine is not wet " special touting dog

 

M Jiaxuan display inventions, wounding dogs and dog manure pollution solution

 

In his demonstration of self-meters dog masks. Yesterday, our dog forum held

civilization.

 

Representatives of the people-meter FM lived cloudy to attend a forum Raised Xin

Jing Bao civilization, He arrived the night before from Miyun urban living in

the homes. Yesterday morning, it arrived at the venue 30 minutes ahead meters

Jiaxuan spoke regulate dog behavior, He cited the dog homemade masks and dogs

" urine is not wet " , the delegates display. Woven bags packed with dog masks, dog

" urine is not wet " is a lower joints of a plastic cloth pockets. After the dog

was tied with a rope, dog manure directly on the plastic. " The people are

beginning to give their dogs walk the dog forced to wear face masks go out, wear

'urine is not wet'. " Meter FM, This simple technology can be used on dogs

wounding completely solve the problem of environmental pollution and dog manure.

He will speak of a sense of humor, invention and atmosphere to a climax.

 

[2 spot Others

 

Before the first busy distributing " proposal "

 

NIU Xiaoxia prepared 3 days ahead; Mr Chan urged spoke freely

 

The opening of the Forum, delegates watched our civilization Raised on the

reports.

 

Niu Xiaoxia representatives of the public to participate in the Forum, three

days after it began preparing in advance of his speech. Raised by her and some

friends deliberations, your views will be collected and collated. from the

contents of the proposed legislation and incentives to raise the quality Raised

written by visitors fill two paper. NIU Xiaoxia will print a number of

recommendations, distributed to all the delegates to the venue.

 

She had also brought their two stray pictures of the rescue, although not at the

meeting because of the time display. After she told reporters pointing to the

photograph of a white dog and said, " I have found it to the adopters. gave it a

happy home. "

 

Yu Hua representatives of the public came to the venue with a full packet of

information, which he sorted out media reports, He wrote a lot of comments and

recommendations. The reporter saw, in which a piece of paper and carefully

painted Yingguangbi Yu Hua also used a key paragraphs. Forum process, Eddy Chan,

China has repeatedly expressed the hope that everyone overlooked the two-hour

time limit, as far as possible to speak out freely. " We gather together

Burongyia. "

 

After the meeting, the reporter was informed that Mr Chan Wah prepared remarks,

did not finish.

 

Li said lawyers

 

Nonetheless, no specific legislation

 

Criminal lawyers based on the current participants will make a ruling on dog

bites

 

At yesterday's forum, law firm Zhangzhenzu Kyoto, said that no specific

legislation of dog bites. China will make a decision based on the existing

Criminal Code.

 

He said that the existing criminal law into the crime of premeditated murder,

manslaughter death of people, and wounding with intent, serious crime of

manslaughter. According to the 104, driven by dogs barking dog owners who

deliberately have caused more than minor injuries, intentional injury, another

person who, with intent to death, intentional homicide; But if dog owners do not

want dogs and wounding subjective, he violated regulations No tying dog chain or

custody is Daxingquan, potent dogs, causing serious injury or death, constitutes

a serious crime of manslaughter. negligence to cause the death of people.

 

[interactive Network

 

bbs. thebeijingnews.com It is uncivilized dog; abandoned dog is also an

uncivilized act. But regulations should be home before, and not after home.

——— Dog Baoma

 

I think that dog registration fees should not drop, it is necessary to raise

pets, and the need to feed a dog costs. The main dilemma of the high cost of

medical problems or are beginning to give their dogs, the dog was sick pay, can

throw, This is one reason some people threw their children. ——— Andrew big

Huixiong

 

A20 - A21 version Du language version of the state planning:

 

ZUO Lin Wen et written :

 

Photo : Wen Jie Chen

 

Ye Hua Green Drawing : D

 

(Wen Wei Ming statement, Yang Yun, GUO Shao-feng, CHEN also contributed to this

article.)

 

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