The Dog Menu for everyone who asked ~~a couple more questions for Craig~~

[Guest guest]

Craig,

 

Thank you very much for providing the detailed menu you feed your dogs. It does

sound rather time-consuming at first, but I guess I am already cooking for my

dogs a bit anyway. I have to give one of my Saint's extra fiber in his food due

to a sensitive digestive system; right now I supplement his kibble with oatmeal.

I used canned pumpkin as a supplement for him for a long while, but changed over

to oatmeal in the last year. I am curious - how large are your dogs? I have

over 350 pounds of dogs; I spend a lot in dog food right now, but I am wondering

how switching to vegetarian would affect my dog food " budget " . I have a couple

of other questions: 1) how many times per day do you feed your dogs, and 2)

approximately how many cups (or other measure) per feeding (if more than 1x/day)

do you feed your dog(s)?

 

Again, thank you for providing the menu details. I really appreciate it.

 

Warm regards,

Jane

-

Craig Dearth

Veg-Recipes

Monday, May 10, 2004 4:57 PM

The Dog Menu for everyone who asked

 

 

Hiya Jane,

I got my inspiration from 2 main sources

one was our local vet who gave us a list and basic diet to follow

the other came from a book Vegetarian Dogs www.vegetariandogs.com

but in the end I adapted and made my own way

 

this may sound a little hard to do at first but I assure your dog will love

you for it

 

ok this is broken down into a few different components

 

first the Vitamins

I make my own mix now but you could use a store bought one that is veggie

based

 

this would last my 2 dogs probably more than a year it just happens to be

the way I find the basic ingredients

 

this is the basic recipe for the vita mix

6 cups powdered Kelp

1 Cup Calcium Carbonate

1 Cup Brewers Yeast

1 cup Powdered spirulina

1 cup Celery powder

1 cup dried Garlic

2-3 cups of crushed or powdered Linseed (flaxseed)

 

 

 

next the veggie mix

I make about 3-6 day supply everytime I do this so it makes it a bit easier

 

the veggies are roughly divided into 2 halves the green leafy & the hard

root like

 

so green leafy could go like this

turnip tops

broccoli stems (and flower if ya like)

Kale

celery

beet tops

kohl rabi tops

etc etc..

 

the roots can go like

carrots

potatoes

sweet potatoes

butternut Squash (or pumpkin)depends where ya live

beets

kohl rabi

 

well you get the idea

 

now by weight make the mix 50/50 (doesn't have to be exact)

 

I use the food processor to chop all this up

 

I also add a bit of corn flower, oats, psyllium husks

sort of helps soak up the excess moisture

 

sprinkle 1/2 cup of the vitamins and mix the whole thing all together

 

then I pack it into air tight containers for the fridge the veggie mix makes

up 50%

of what my dogs eat

 

now the other half of their meal varies a bit (cause they need a bit of

variety too)

 

I use Pasta,

Tvp,

lentils both brown & red,

soy beans,

mung beans,

split peas,

Brown Rice

millets seed

poppy seed

dried garlic

organic Pasta

 

ok receipt 1

 

4 cups brown lentils

4 cups Brown Rice

2 cups mung beans

2 cups red lentils

2 cups whole millets seed

1 cup Crushed Linseed (flaxseed)

1 cup poppy Seed

3 Tbsp of dried Garlic

3 cups of the above veggie mix

 

(this can be frozen for a short term so I often make a big batch freeze

about 2/3rds of it and bring out as needed over the next few weeks)

 

just soak the beans and rice in a pot over night (at least 24 hours)

add all the other ingredients

cook for about 1 hour

then

 

mix this lot 50/50 with the veggie mix and serve

 

receipt 2

olive oil in a pan with about 3 tbsp of garlic cook the garlic for a minute

or two

add the 3 cups of TVP (already pre-soaked for 30 minutes)

add 3 cups of Veggie mix

cook for about 20 minutes

 

mix this 50/50 with the veggie mix and serve

 

receipt 3

boil 1/2 kilo of pasta mix 3 cups of veggie mix 1 cup of crushed linseed

just barely cook the pasta maybe 2-3 minutes after it boils

don't use too much water

 

the mix this 50/50 with the veggie mix

 

now all of that is their basic dinner

I know it sounds a bit hard at first but it really is easy

 

I also make the dogs their own biscuits and let me tell you they love them

I tried them out on the neighbours dogs and they love them as well

 

 

this is a little harder but equally worth it

here is my basic receipt

 

6 cups whole wheat flour

1 cup Craig's super Vita mix (lol)

1 cup crushed linseed

1/2 cup pysllium Husks

1 cup oat bran

1 cup wheat bran

1 cup raw pepitas (pumpkin seeds)

1 cup sesame seeds

4 cups rolled oats (I usually buy rolled oats, Rolled barley, Rolled wheat

mix it all together and use that)

1/2 cup almond meal

3 cups Craig now famous Veggie Mix (lol)

 

add about 6-8 cups of water mix together and make the mix workable

if it is too stick add more flour

if it is too dry add more water

 

roll this mixture out about 1/4 to 1/2 inch thick cut into shapes or squares

place on pans

(you may need to put a little bit of flour on the pan to keep them from

sticking)

put in the oven at 350F (200 C) for 10-15 minutes or unless kinda crispy

around the edges

leave in the oven over night so the get harder

 

and serve away

 

any questions feel free to ask me I did write all that in a hurry so I could

have made mistakes

 

at cd39

 

all the best

Craig

 

 

good dawgs [gooddawgs]

Monday, May 10, 2004 7:56 AM

Veg-Recipes

Re: another new member - dog menu

 

 

Hi Craig,

I saw your email addressed to Jen, and I would be very interested in what

you are feeding your dogs. I have three large dogs, all of which are

currently eating standard " premium " dog food, and would love to learn the

specifics of your dogs' vegetarian diet. I have been a vegetarian since

Earth Day in 1990. Thanks much.

Warm regards,

Jane

-

Craig Dearth

Veg-Recipes

Sunday, May 09, 2004 4:26 PM

RE: another new member

 

 

Jen,

I have two dogs

both Vegan

one has been vegan for 3 years and she can out run just about any dog I

have

ever seen

the other was a orphan we got from the kennel he has been vegan for about

6 months and just about everything about him has improved

dogs have evolved with humans over the last 10000 or so years so it stands

to reason

that they are better off as vegetarians or even vegans

if you would like more info

I would be very happy to list their menu

all the best

Craig

sunmoonandstars14 [sunmoonandstars14]

Saturday, May 08, 2004 12:54 PM

Veg-Recipes

another new member

 

 

been wanting to convert for a long time, and ive never been much of

a meat eater anyway (i buy it only for the dogs and cats). id be

interested in any recipes that i can take to work or make for a

quick meal at home, or give to my mom, who is probably thinking b y

now ive gone over the deep end (although shes really supportive).

 

im going to wander through the site a lot, looking for recipes. i

dont have the program listed though, so hopefully thats ok....

 

jen

 

 

 

 

 

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Jane,

I guess I left that part out

well the main meal I feed once a day

2 cups veg 2 cups of other and about 5-7 of the biscuits

I cut the biscuits in about 1 inch squares

 

later in the day I feed them about 10 of the biscuits

one dog is 22 kilo (48lbs) the other is about 30 kilo (66lbs)

the veggies you use don't have to be AAA quality you can use stuff you

normally throw out

like the stem of the broccoli or the leaves of cauliflower

the only restriction is stay away from onions

 

you will save money over store bought food (if you don't mind the time)

I really find now that I am in the routine it takes me maybe 1-2 hours a

week at most

I buy most of the ingredients from a local feed store

I always buy in bulk to save money

I store the beans and stuff in large jars I was able to acquire from the

local Deli

I planted turnips, bok Choy and Kale in the garden just for a steady source

of greens for the dogs

we go to a garden market every week to buy much of what we need

 

at first when the I switched the dogs over I added a couple spoons of honey

so they would eat

(as we are vegan the honey is no longer in the house but it was the lessor

of evils at the time)

some times we stir fry or pan fried our food

if there is anything left over a little oil or sauce in the pan they get

that as well

the love a little flavour in their food so when I make the Bean mix I add a

pinch of Cajun season

 

play around a bit you can probably see the idea is variety and nutrition

 

also as far as portion I would give them as much as they want at first

 

the vitamin mix is pretty important cause it covers all the essentials

but they should get most of that in the food anyway but just in case =o]]

 

hope that helps

all the best

Craig

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

good dawgs [gooddawgs]

Thursday, May 13, 2004 8:53 AM

Veg-Recipes

Re: The Dog Menu for everyone who asked ~~a couple

more questions for Craig~~

 

 

Craig,

 

Thank you very much for providing the detailed menu you feed your dogs. It

does sound rather time-consuming at first, but I guess I am already cooking

for my dogs a bit anyway. I have to give one of my Saint's extra fiber in

his food due to a sensitive digestive system; right now I supplement his

kibble with oatmeal. I used canned pumpkin as a supplement for him for a

long while, but changed over to oatmeal in the last year. I am curious -

how large are your dogs? I have over 350 pounds of dogs; I spend a lot in

dog food right now, but I am wondering how switching to vegetarian would

affect my dog food " budget " . I have a couple of other questions: 1) how

many times per day do you feed your dogs, and 2) approximately how many cups

(or other measure) per feeding (if more than 1x/day) do you feed your

dog(s)?

 

Again, thank you for providing the menu details. I really appreciate it.

 

Warm regards,

Jane

-

Craig Dearth

Veg-Recipes

Monday, May 10, 2004 4:57 PM

The Dog Menu for everyone who asked

 

 

Hiya Jane,

I got my inspiration from 2 main sources

one was our local vet who gave us a list and basic diet to follow

the other came from a book Vegetarian Dogs www.vegetariandogs.com

but in the end I adapted and made my own way

 

this may sound a little hard to do at first but I assure your dog will

love

you for it

 

ok this is broken down into a few different components

 

first the Vitamins

I make my own mix now but you could use a store bought one that is veggie

based

 

this would last my 2 dogs probably more than a year it just happens to be

the way I find the basic ingredients

 

this is the basic recipe for the vita mix

6 cups powdered Kelp

1 Cup Calcium Carbonate

1 Cup Brewers Yeast

1 cup Powdered spirulina

1 cup Celery powder

1 cup dried Garlic

2-3 cups of crushed or powdered Linseed (flaxseed)

 

 

 

next the veggie mix

I make about 3-6 day supply everytime I do this so it makes it a bit

easier

 

the veggies are roughly divided into 2 halves the green leafy & the hard

root like

 

so green leafy could go like this

turnip tops

broccoli stems (and flower if ya like)

Kale

celery

beet tops

kohl rabi tops

etc etc..

 

the roots can go like

carrots

potatoes

sweet potatoes

butternut Squash (or pumpkin)depends where ya live

beets

kohl rabi

 

well you get the idea

 

now by weight make the mix 50/50 (doesn't have to be exact)

 

I use the food processor to chop all this up

 

I also add a bit of corn flower, oats, psyllium husks

sort of helps soak up the excess moisture

 

sprinkle 1/2 cup of the vitamins and mix the whole thing all together

 

then I pack it into air tight containers for the fridge the veggie mix

makes

up 50%

of what my dogs eat

 

now the other half of their meal varies a bit (cause they need a bit of

variety too)

 

I use Pasta,

Tvp,

lentils both brown & red,

soy beans,

mung beans,

split peas,

Brown Rice

millets seed

poppy seed

dried garlic

organic Pasta

 

ok receipt 1

 

4 cups brown lentils

4 cups Brown Rice

2 cups mung beans

2 cups red lentils

2 cups whole millets seed

1 cup Crushed Linseed (flaxseed)

1 cup poppy Seed

3 Tbsp of dried Garlic

3 cups of the above veggie mix

 

(this can be frozen for a short term so I often make a big batch freeze

about 2/3rds of it and bring out as needed over the next few weeks)

 

just soak the beans and rice in a pot over night (at least 24 hours)

add all the other ingredients

cook for about 1 hour

then

 

mix this lot 50/50 with the veggie mix and serve

 

receipt 2

olive oil in a pan with about 3 tbsp of garlic cook the garlic for a

minute

or two

add the 3 cups of TVP (already pre-soaked for 30 minutes)

add 3 cups of Veggie mix

cook for about 20 minutes

 

mix this 50/50 with the veggie mix and serve

 

receipt 3

boil 1/2 kilo of pasta mix 3 cups of veggie mix 1 cup of crushed linseed

just barely cook the pasta maybe 2-3 minutes after it boils

don't use too much water

 

the mix this 50/50 with the veggie mix

 

now all of that is their basic dinner

I know it sounds a bit hard at first but it really is easy

 

I also make the dogs their own biscuits and let me tell you they love them

I tried them out on the neighbours dogs and they love them as well

 

 

this is a little harder but equally worth it

here is my basic receipt

 

6 cups whole wheat flour

1 cup Craig's super Vita mix (lol)

1 cup crushed linseed

1/2 cup pysllium Husks

1 cup oat bran

1 cup wheat bran

1 cup raw pepitas (pumpkin seeds)

1 cup sesame seeds

4 cups rolled oats (I usually buy rolled oats, Rolled barley, Rolled

wheat

mix it all together and use that)

1/2 cup almond meal

3 cups Craig now famous Veggie Mix (lol)

 

add about 6-8 cups of water mix together and make the mix workable

if it is too stick add more flour

if it is too dry add more water

 

roll this mixture out about 1/4 to 1/2 inch thick cut into shapes or

squares

place on pans

(you may need to put a little bit of flour on the pan to keep them from

sticking)

put in the oven at 350F (200 C) for 10-15 minutes or unless kinda crispy

around the edges

leave in the oven over night so the get harder

 

and serve away

 

any questions feel free to ask me I did write all that in a hurry so I

could

have made mistakes

 

at cd39

 

all the best

Craig

 

 

good dawgs [gooddawgs]

Monday, May 10, 2004 7:56 AM

Veg-Recipes

Re: another new member - dog menu

 

 

Hi Craig,

I saw your email addressed to Jen, and I would be very interested in what

you are feeding your dogs. I have three large dogs, all of which are

currently eating standard " premium " dog food, and would love to learn the

 

specifics of your dogs' vegetarian diet. I have been a vegetarian since

Earth Day in 1990. Thanks much.

Warm regards,

Jane

-

Craig Dearth

Veg-Recipes

Sunday, May 09, 2004 4:26 PM

RE: another new member

 

 

Jen,

I have two dogs

both Vegan

one has been vegan for 3 years and she can out run just about any dog I

have

ever seen

the other was a orphan we got from the kennel he has been vegan for

about

6 months and just about everything about him has improved

dogs have evolved with humans over the last 10000 or so years so it

stands

to reason

that they are better off as vegetarians or even vegans

if you would like more info

I would be very happy to list their menu

all the best

Craig

sunmoonandstars14 [sunmoonandstars14]

Saturday, May 08, 2004 12:54 PM

Veg-Recipes

another new member

 

 

been wanting to convert for a long time, and ive never been much of

a meat eater anyway (i buy it only for the dogs and cats). id be

interested in any recipes that i can take to work or make for a

quick meal at home, or give to my mom, who is probably thinking b y

now ive gone over the deep end (although shes really supportive).

 

im going to wander through the site a lot, looking for recipes. i

dont have the program listed though, so hopefully thats ok....

 

jen

 

 

 

 

 

 

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