PAT - re seitan (Was - Economic Crisis Bitten Your Food Budget?)

[Guest guest]

The quickest answer to the search for a seitan link is here

http://www.vegsource.com/articles/bryanna_xmas_print.htm

Also try http://blog.fatfreevegan.com/2007/05/barbecued-seitan-ribz.html

 

Scroll down past the salad recipes and you'll find all kinds of flavours in

there for seitan as well as ideas for shaping, cooking, serving, etc. along with

go-withs.

 

I had some more such links on my old computer, but . . . . I shall see if I can

relocate them for you all.

 

You can also turn seitan into pepperoni, chorizo and goodness knows what else -

again I'll look. You can google as easily as I, however I tend to stick

mainly to a spicy 'chikken' or 'turkei' seitan, although I'm game to try beeef

sometime just for the adventure of it. It's easy to make - you just need the

gluten powder - unless you're willing to use your muscles to squeeze the gluten

out of regular flour, which I cannot. I use Bryanna's recipe.

 

Love, Pat

 

 

 

 

 

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Marie Rieuwers <marierieuwers

 

Thursday, March 5, 2009 2:43:24 AM

PAT - re seitan links (Was - Economic Crisis

Bitten Your Food Budget?)

 

Hi Pat,

 

Ooooh yes please. I'd love to have the seitan links. Many thanks. I have

often thought about making my own seitan but I have been a bit put off by the

requirement for using high gluten flour or, as you often see in UK recipes,

flour of x%. Those descriptions are not used in Holland and I really don't know

what they mean or what type of flour to buy. I must admit that when I see UK

recipes using flour of a particular % (for instance 81%) I'm not even sure what

the % refers to.

 

Do the sites also give instructions for the different styles of seitan you

mentioned.

 

Home baking isn't really very popular in Holland and supermarkets carry only a

tiny range of flour and baking products. The standard range is plain and self

raising flour (both white) with the occasional supermarket carrying plain

wholemeal flour. I have never seen self-raising wholemeal flour in a Dutch

supermarket. There is never any additional information such as strength/% on the

packets.

 

You can also buy packets of bread machine mix - white, multigrain and wholemeal.

I assume these mixes wouldn't be suitable for seitan as they have yeast in them.

Anything more 'exotic' than these flours would involve a trip to a health food

shop or a flour mill but I still don't know what sort of flour to look for or

ask for. I suspect that explaining my needs would fall on deaf ears as I have

never heard of anyone here making their own seitan. I'd love to be able to make

it though. Any hints, tips or advice would be gratefully received.

 

Even cake mixes (panic not, I never buy them!) in supermarkets are restricted to

two or three varieties. Everyone here seems to have the favourite family apple

tart recipe but that tends to be the extent of baking for many people so the

range of products available is minimal.

 

As for the recipes, I'll see what I can do about making the 'recipes'

comprehensible but it varies a lot depending on the mood I'm in. Sometimes I

use oatmeal as the base ingredient, sometimes cooked rice, lentils or it could

be or grated raw or mashed potatoes. I have also used mashed sweet potatoes and

carrots on occasions. I also make batter based fritters sometimes - e.g. corn

fritters. I will try to put some ideas in writing and post them - maybe over

the weekend.

 

Hugs from Marie

--- On Thu, 5/3/09, drpatsant <drpatsant wrote:

 

 

drpatsant <drpatsant

Re: RE - Economic Crisis Bitten Your Food Budget?

 

Thursday, 5 March, 2009, 12:04 AM

 

 

 

 

 

 

Marie, as a change from your homemade veggie burgers (wanna share that

recipe?????) , have you tried making your own seitan?

..

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

For those who are gluten-free, I have a non-gluten seitan recipe.

Haven't tried it out yet:

 

Gluten Free Seitan AKA The Non-Wheat Meat

½ bean flour

½ rice flour

¼ tapioca starch

1/4 cup nutritional yeast

1 tsp salt

Paprika

Cumin

Pepper

Dehydrated onions

 

1/3 cup water or stock

¼ cup. Ketchup or tomato paste

2 tbsp dairy free margarine

2 tbsp Braggs

 

If you freeze your flours, make sure they all come to room temperature

before you begin. Stir together the flours, starch, and yeast with

spices. Make the usual well and add the margarine, ketchup or tomato

paste, water or stock and Braggs. Stir to combine. You should begin to

obtain a pie dough like state. If it feels too dry then add a bit more

water.

 

Preheat your oven to 350.

 

Knead for 2 to 3 minutes then let it rest for 5. Shape as desired -

roll, flat, etc. and cover with oiled or nonstick tin foil. Bake for

15 to 30 minutes. If a crisp exterior is desired, remove the dough

from the oven early and finish baking uncovered.

Let cool and savor the pleasure of seitan - sort of - once again!

 

 

 

Pam

 

On Thu, Mar 5, 2009 at 9:26 AM, drpatsant <drpatsant wrote:

> The quickest answer to the search for a seitan link is here

> http://www.vegsource.com/articles/bryanna_xmas_print.htm

> Also try http://blog.fatfreevegan.com/2007/05/barbecued-seitan-ribz.html

>

> Scroll down past the salad recipes and you'll find all kinds of flavours in

> there for seitan as well as ideas for shaping, cooking, serving, etc. along

> with go-withs.

>

> I had some more such links on my old computer, but . . . . I shall see if I

> can relocate them for you all.

>

> You can also turn seitan into pepperoni, chorizo and goodness knows what

> else - again I'll look. You can google as easily as I, however I tend to

> stick mainly to a spicy 'chikken' or 'turkei' seitan, although I'm game to

> try beeef sometime just for the adventure of it. It's easy to make - you

> just need the gluten powder - unless you're willing to use your muscles to

> squeeze the gluten out of regular flour, which I cannot. I use Bryanna's

> recipe.

>

> Love, Pat

>

> ---

> http://www.vegandonelight.com/spice

> http://beanvegan.blogspot.com

> http://river-rambles.blogspot.com

> " As long as you derive inner help and comfort from anything, keep it. "

> Mahatma Gandhi.

>

> ________________________________

> Marie Rieuwers <marierieuwers

>

> Thursday, March 5, 2009 2:43:24 AM

> PAT - re seitan links (Was - Economic Crisis

> Bitten Your Food Budget?)

>

> Hi Pat,

>

> Ooooh yes please. I'd love to have the seitan links. Many thanks. I have

> often thought about making my own seitan but I have been a bit put off by

> the requirement for using high gluten flour or, as you often see in UK

> recipes, flour of x%. Those descriptions are not used in Holland and I

> really don't know what they mean or what type of flour to buy. I must admit

> that when I see UK recipes using flour of a particular % (for instance 81%)

> I'm not even sure what the % refers to.

>

> Do the sites also give instructions for the different styles of seitan you

> mentioned.

>

> Home baking isn't really very popular in Holland and supermarkets carry only

> a tiny range of flour and baking products. The standard range is plain and

> self raising flour (both white) with the occasional supermarket carrying

> plain wholemeal flour. I have never seen self-raising wholemeal flour in a

> Dutch supermarket. There is never any additional information such as

> strength/% on the packets.

>

> You can also buy packets of bread machine mix - white, multigrain and

> wholemeal. I assume these mixes wouldn't be suitable for seitan as they have

> yeast in them. Anything more 'exotic' than these flours would involve a trip

> to a health food shop or a flour mill but I still don't know what sort of

> flour to look for or ask for. I suspect that explaining my needs would fall

> on deaf ears as I have never heard of anyone here making their own seitan.

> I'd love to be able to make it though. Any hints, tips or advice would be

> gratefully received.

>

> Even cake mixes (panic not, I never buy them!) in supermarkets are

> restricted to two or three varieties. Everyone here seems to have the

> favourite family apple tart recipe but that tends to be the extent of baking

> for many people so the range of products available is minimal.

>

> As for the recipes, I'll see what I can do about making the 'recipes'

> comprehensible but it varies a lot depending on the mood I'm in. Sometimes I

> use oatmeal as the base ingredient, sometimes cooked rice, lentils or it

> could be or grated raw or mashed potatoes. I have also used mashed sweet

> potatoes and carrots on occasions. I also make batter based fritters

> sometimes - e.g. corn fritters. I will try to put some ideas in writing and

> post them - maybe over the weekend.

>

> Hugs from Marie

> --- On Thu, 5/3/09, drpatsant <drpatsant wrote:

>

> drpatsant <drpatsant

> Re: RE - Economic Crisis Bitten Your Food

> Budget?

>

> Thursday, 5 March, 2009, 12:04 AM

>

> Marie, as a change from your homemade veggie burgers (wanna share that

> recipe?????) , have you tried making your own seitan?

> .

>

>

[Guest guest]

Well, Pam, whatever it is Gluten-free Seitan isn't seitan but it is extremely

clever! I would have thought that soy would have been the only option - tofu,

beancurd, tempeh - but here is this clever recipe. Wonder if it is as good as it

looks? Let us know if or when you try it, okay? Meanwhile, I think I shall place

it in the Files (with a warning that it's not Tried and True yet), because it

would be a shame to lose what is potentially a great idea for the gluten-free

crowd. Very important.

 

Thanks a bunch!

 

Love, Pat

 

---

http://www.vegandonelight.com/spice

http://beanvegan.blogspot.com

http://river-rambles.blogspot.com

" As long as you derive inner help and comfort from anything, keep it. " Mahatma

Gandhi.

 

 

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

Hi Pat,

 

I have checked the links you sent.  Once again, many thanks for them.  As far as

I know I can't get vital wheat gluten here in Holland so what I need (if it

exists) is a seitan recipe which doesn't use this product.  Do you happen to

have such a recipe/link?  Even the strong flour may be a problem but there is a

flour mill (a genuine Dutch windmill with sails!)not too far from here where I

may be able to get some.

 

Hugs from Marie

 

--- On Thu, 5/3/09, drpatsant <drpatsant wrote:

 

 

drpatsant <drpatsant

Re: PAT - re seitan links (Was - Economic Crisis

Bitten Your Food Budget?)

 

Thursday, 5 March, 2009, 5:26 PM

 

 

 

 

 

 

The quickest answer to the search for a seitan link is here http://www.vegsourc

e.com/articles/ bryanna_xmas_ print.htm

Also try http://blog. fatfreevegan. com/2007/ 05/barbecued- seitan-ribz. html

 

Scroll down past the salad recipes and you'll find all kinds of flavours in

there for seitan as well as ideas for shaping, cooking, serving, etc. along with

go-withs.

 

 

 

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[Guest guest]

Marie, in Australia it¹s called by a different name ‹ instead of Vital Wheat

Gluten, ours is just called Gluten Flour. So I thought maybe it¹s called

something else in Holland. So I searched and found these links that might

help:

 

http://www.alibaba.com/countrysearch/NL-suppliers/Vital_Wheat_Gluten.html

 

http://nl100070186.trustpass.alibaba.com/

 

Looks like Royal Lion Brand may be available in Holland?

 

Anna

 

 

 

On 7/3/09 7:39 PM, " Marie Rieuwers " <marierieuwers wrote:

>

> Hi Pat,

>  

> I have checked the links you sent.  Once again, many thanks for them.  As far

> as I know I can't get vital wheat gluten here in Holland so what I need (if it

> exists) is a seitan recipe which doesn't use this product.  Do you happen to

> have such a recipe/link?  Even the strong flour may be a problem but there is

> a flour mill (a genuine Dutch windmill with sails!)not too far from here where

> I may be able to get some.

>  

> Hugs from Marie

>

> --- On Thu, 5/3/09, drpatsant <drpatsant%40>

> <drpatsant <drpatsant%40> > wrote:

>

> drpatsant <drpatsant%40> <drpatsant

> <drpatsant%40> >

> Re: PAT - re seitan links (Was - Economic Crisis

> Bitten Your Food Budget?)

>

> <%40>

> Thursday, 5 March, 2009, 5:26 PM

>

> The quickest answer to the search for a seitan link is here

> http://www.vegsourc e.com/articles/ bryanna_xmas_ print.htm

> Also try http://blog. fatfreevegan. com/2007/ 05/barbecued- seitan-ribz. html

>

> Scroll down past the salad recipes and you'll find all kinds of flavours in

> there for seitan as well as ideas for shaping, cooking, serving, etc. along

> with go-withs.