Guest guest Posted October 24, 2005 Report Share Posted October 24, 2005 I give my baby a lots of tapioca flour,potato starch or corn starch, will be highly appreciated if you can let me know more about " which are foods stripped of their nutrients. " Thanks! Regards, Lena Shelly Eades <sgeades wrote:Hey Lisa Thanks so much for the recipe! Do you know if this would work or could be adapted for a bread? I don't like the thought of giving my daughter tapioca flour and potato starch or corn starch which are foods stripped of their nutrients. So for the last week I'd been looking for a GF bread that is based on whole foods and then I read this post. Anybody know any bread recipes that are mostly whole food (bean flour based for example). How would I make a bread out of this one? Thanks! On Behalf Of Lisa Watson Thursday, October 20, 2005 12:39 PM RE: Brand new here -- need protein ideas for baking (long) Rene, I use bean flour for most of my baking to add protein. I have my standard muffin recipe to " hide " things :-) 2 cups flour (bean or brown rice) 2 tsp xanthan gum 2 tsp baking powder 1 tsp salt 2 eggs or EnerG egg replacer 1/3 cup olive oil 2 cups water, juice or milk sub. This is the basic recipe. I make chocolate peanut butter by adding ½ cup cocoa powder and a large spoonful of peanut butter. Berry, by adding 1 cup of berries (pureed if need be for sensory issues). For pumpkin, I add a scant cup of pureed pumpkin and 1 tsp cinnamon and ½ tsp cloves. As you can see, it's a great recipe to give them nutrition w/o them knowing :-) Oh, stir it all together (adjust liquid if you need to) and put it into a presprayed (with whatever cooking spray you can use) muffin pan. Should make 12 muffins. Bake at 400 until they're done (25 min. for the berry muffins, closer to 45 for pumpkin muffins, especially if you use flax goo instead of EnerG for your eggs) You can add a cup of raisins, nuts, whatever if you want. HTH, Lisa _____ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 24, 2005 Report Share Posted October 24, 2005 Lena, You'll find all the nutritional information for different types of GF flour here : http://www.anzwers.org/free/gfcf/flour.html Kim , Lena W <lenapeace2008> wrote: > > I give my baby a lots of tapioca flour,potato starch or corn starch, will be highly appreciated if you can let me know more about " which are foods stripped of their nutrients. " Thanks! Regards, Lena > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 24, 2005 Report Share Posted October 24, 2005 At 10:41 PM 10/23/2005, you wrote: >Lena, > >You'll find all the nutritional information for different types of >GF flour here : > > ><http://www.anzwers.org/free/gfcf/flour.html>http://www.anzwers.org/free/gfcf/f\ lour.html > > >Kim This is an awesome site! Thanks so much for posting. I also found a bunch of great recipes in there. YAY! I *must* try the seed bread. I'll even make a special trip into the health food store for some ingredients. Shannon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 26, 2005 Report Share Posted October 26, 2005 >I give my baby a lots of tapioca flour,potato starch or corn starch, will be highly appreciated if you can let me know more about " which are foods stripped of their nutrients. " Thanks! Regards, Lena Let me see if I can explain. I'm a whole foods fan. And our health is dependant on the nutrients (vits and minerals but also good old fatty acids as well as *phytochemicals*) we take in from food. Starch is the carbohydrate part of the food with hardly any nutrients left from the whole food. It's calories with no nutrients (or very little). Think of it as white rice vs whole brown rice or white flour vs whole wheat flour. When we feed our kids these refined foods they must draw from their nutrient reserves to process the calories taken in. For example, we need X amount of chromium when to process (or metabolize) X amount of calories. If they aren't packaged with the food (as nature did originally) then we must draw them from our reserves. If the reverse gets low enough health problems start occuring. A good example of this is the developement of eye problems like near sightedness. Ever wonder why we have sooo many kids who need glasses at such an early age? For more info I suggest " Disease Proof Your Child " by Joel Furhman M.D. This book is very gluten free friendly. I love most the recipes (over 50 if I recall right) and so does my daughter. I wouldn't mind giving her some bread where say only 1/4 was refined foods because the rest of my daughter's diet is nutrient rich. But most the breads I'm seeing on this list and other places are too high in refined foods for me to feel safe giving them to my daughter. Shelly E Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 26, 2005 Report Share Posted October 26, 2005 In the recipe below is the bean flour a mix of bean and other ingrediants or can I just use say garbanzo flour for those 2 cups? My daughter seems to do just fine with oat flour so could I use that? I'd prefer to substitute the oil for almond butter or something. Will that work? Also, this probably a dumb question but what do mean by " scant " cup. Thanks! I use bean flour for most of my baking to add protein. I have my standard muffin recipe to " hide " things :-) 2 cups flour (bean or brown rice) 2 tsp xanthan gum 2 tsp baking powder 1 tsp salt 2 eggs or EnerG egg replacer 1/3 cup olive oil 2 cups water, juice or milk sub. This is the basic recipe. I make chocolate peanut butter by adding ½ cup cocoa powder and a large spoonful of peanut butter. Berry, by adding 1 cup of berries (pureed if need be for sensory issues). For pumpkin, I add a scant cup of pureed pumpkin and 1 tsp cinnamon and ½ tsp cloves. As you can see, it's a great recipe to give them nutrition w/o them knowing :-) Oh, stir it all together (adjust liquid if you need to) and put it into a presprayed (with whatever cooking spray you can use) muffin pan. Should make 12 muffins. Bake at 400 until they're done (25 min. for the berry muffins, closer to 45 for pumpkin muffins, especially if you use flax goo instead of EnerG for your eggs) You can add a cup of raisins, nuts, whatever if you want. HTH, Lisa _____ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 26, 2005 Report Share Posted October 26, 2005 >>>But most the breads I'm seeing on this list and other places are too high in refined foods for me to feel safe giving them to my daughter. Shelly is right. . .most all gluten free breads are high in refined starches and don't have alot of high density nutrients. It's been frustrating to me. We've dealt with it by mostly avoiding bread and using whole grains in other forms instead. Whole grain crackers, buckwheat pancakes, crockpot cereals, grains added to bean dishes, patties and loaves made with whole grains, etc. are much healthier and better for everyone. It's true, though, that occasionally a sandwich is 'handy' and it really would be nice to find a successful recipe for a whole grain, gluten free bread! Some of the 'bean flours' aren't too bad for bread, but most recipes still use a high proportion of starchy, refined grains. ~ LaDonna ~ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 26, 2005 Report Share Posted October 26, 2005 My son will often eat 1/2 a loaf of bread after school. I too like to make sure there is as many nutrients in it as possible. I normally do this by replacing much (or all) of the white rice flour with other more nutritious flours. I'll often increase the besan (chickpea/garbanzo) flour, increase the brown rice flour and replace most, if not all, of the remaining white rice flour with either one or more other flours (such as sorghum, buckwheat etc.) usually depending on what's in the cupboard. And I double the seeds and usually throw in a few more bits and pieces. I do find some starch in the recipe does help the texture of the bread. The only downside of this is there is no guarantee of the outcome, although I have very rarely produced a loaf my son won't eat. Kim > I wouldn't mind giving her some bread where say only 1/4 was refined foods > because the rest of my daughter's diet is nutrient rich. But most the > breads I'm seeing on this list and other places are too high in refined > foods for me to feel safe giving them to my daughter. > > Shelly E Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 26, 2005 Report Share Posted October 26, 2005 A “scant” cup is the opposite of a heaping cup…more than ¾, but not quite a cup. Though I’m sure there’s a more “proper” definition :-) I was referring to the Bob’s Red Mill or Bette Hagman bean mix (the one that has garbanzo, fava, tapioca, etc), but I normally use all brown rice flour. That gives me the best results, a good texture and the nutrition I want. I have made them with all garbanzo flour and made the cocoa variation of them and the kids didn’t believe they didn’t have peanut butter in them! I’ve never tried them w/o the olive oil, so I couldn’t say if the almond butter would work, but it’s worth a try. It’s a pretty forgiving recipe and I’ve messed around with it a lot. HTH, Lisa _____ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 26, 2005 Report Share Posted October 26, 2005 On Oct 26, 2005, at 9:30 AM, Lisa Watson wrote: > A “scant” cup is the opposite of a heaping cup…more than ¾, but not > quite a > cup. Though I’m sure there’s a more “proper” definition :-) > A scant cup is one cup minus one tablespoon. ygg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 26, 2005 Report Share Posted October 26, 2005 >>>A scant cup is one cup minus one tablespoon. ygg I love it! Yes, you are correct. . .even inexact measurements are exact! LOL! LaDonna Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 26, 2005 Report Share Posted October 26, 2005 Alright, Kim. . .you are an inspiration. I resolve to do better. . .and try some new HEALTHY breads! Thank you!!!!!!! LaDonna PS: For those who haven't yet looked in our 'photos' section on our website, please take a look. Kim has posted many pictures of the lovely, vegan and gluten free foods that she bakes. They are absolutely beautiful and I'm sure just as tasty as well! I wish I could drop by for tea, Kim! Or invite you here for some with our family! >>>>My son will often eat 1/2 a loaf of bread after school. I too like to make sure there is as many nutrients in it as possible. I normally do this by replacing much (or all) of the white rice flour with other more nutritious flours. I'll often increase the besan (chickpea/garbanzo) flour, increase the brown rice flour and replace most, if not all, of the remaining white rice flour with either one or more other flours (such as sorghum, buckwheat etc.) usually depending on what's in the cupboard. And I double the seeds and usually throw in a few more bits and pieces. I do find some starch in the recipe does help the texture of the bread. The only downside of this is there is no guarantee of the outcome, although I have very rarely produced a loaf my son won't eat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 26, 2005 Report Share Posted October 26, 2005 , " LaDonna " <teacups@c...> wrote: > >>>But most the > breads I'm seeing on this list and other places are too high in refined > foods for me to feel safe giving them to my daughter. > > Shelly is right. . . > We've dealt with it by mostly avoiding bread and using whole grains in other > forms instead. Whole grain crackers, buckwheat pancakes, crockpot cereals... I agree with LaDonna, I'm one to make extra Buckwheat pancakes to freeze and have on hand for sandwiches instead of bread. I'm the only one in my family on a GF diet just now and I'd rather do without than eat some of the overly refined " bread products " we have available. I was a big eater of whole grains before being diagnosed -- any wonder I was so sick! I eat a lot more nuts, seeds, fruits and veggies. My extra challenge is that I'm also allergic to soy so I cannot use soy products. I have a pretty broad diet, however and feel much better regardless of what I cannot eat. Cate Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 27, 2005 Report Share Posted October 27, 2005 Thanks a lots shelly, i m so new & love to learn, i love my baby & want to give his good food, thks for the explanation, help a lots! Learn a lots from the group. Once a angin, thks a lots! Loves from lena Shelly Eades <sgeades wrote:>I give my baby a lots of tapioca flour,potato starch or corn starch, will be highly appreciated if you can let me know more about " which are foods stripped of their nutrients. " Thanks! Regards, Lena Let me see if I can explain. I'm a whole foods fan. And our health is dependant on the nutrients (vits and minerals but also good old fatty acids as well as *phytochemicals*) we take in from food. Starch is the carbohydrate part of the food with hardly any nutrients left from the whole food. It's calories with no nutrients (or very little). Think of it as white rice vs whole brown rice or white flour vs whole wheat flour. When we feed our kids these refined foods they must draw from their nutrient reserves to process the calories taken in. For example, we need X amount of chromium when to process (or metabolize) X amount of calories. If they aren't packaged with the food (as nature did originally) then we must draw them from our reserves. If the reverse gets low enough health problems start occuring. A good example of this is the developement of eye problems like near sightedness. Ever wonder why we have sooo many kids who need glasses at such an early age? For more info I suggest " Disease Proof Your Child " by Joel Furhman M.D. This book is very gluten free friendly. I love most the recipes (over 50 if I recall right) and so does my daughter. I wouldn't mind giving her some bread where say only 1/4 was refined foods because the rest of my daughter's diet is nutrient rich. But most the breads I'm seeing on this list and other places are too high in refined foods for me to feel safe giving them to my daughter. Shelly E Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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