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Omega 3's can make a huge difference to depression. Fish oil or flax

oil capsules, or fish a few times a week, or ground flax and walnuts

daily. Lots of dark green leafy vegetables. You can also get omega 3

from algae.

 

Pam

 

On 3/18/09, davoodiandiana <davoodiandiana wrote:

> thank you Pam,i drink enough water, three times a week exercise, but i dont

> know about omega 3. is it tablet or eat fish. Diana

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If we don't eat meat, why would we take fish oil capsules?  That has been

suggested to me by a carnivore but I didn't expect that suggestion here.  Peggy

 

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pdw <pdworkman

Re: Re: lose weight

 

Wednesday, March 18, 2009, 11:42 PM

 

 

 

 

 

 

Omega 3's can make a huge difference to depression. Fish oil or flax

oil capsules, or fish a few times a week, or ground flax and walnuts

daily. Lots of dark green leafy vegetables. You can also get omega 3

from algae.

 

Pam

 

On 3/18/09, davoodiandiana <davoodiandiana@ .co. uk> wrote:

> thank you Pam,i drink enough water, three times a week exercise, but i dont

> know about omega 3. is it tablet or eat fish. Diana

>

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Whoops, my bad, I was thinking this was on a different list. My

apologies! We use flax, walnuts, and dark greens here.

 

Pam

 

On 3/18/09, Peggy Lewis <lwspeggy344 wrote:

> If we don't eat meat, why would we take fish oil capsules? That has been

> suggested to me by a carnivore but I didn't expect that suggestion here.

> Peggy

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> --- On Wed, 3/18/09, pdw <pdworkman wrote:

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> Re: Re: lose weight

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> Wednesday, March 18, 2009, 11:42 PM

Omega 3's can make a huge difference to depression. Fish oil or flax

> oil capsules, or fish a few times a week, or ground flax and walnuts

> daily. Lots of dark green leafy vegetables. You can also get omega 3

> from algae.

>

> Pam

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> On 3/18/09, davoodiandiana <davoodiandiana@ .co. uk> wrote:

>> thank you Pam,i drink enough water, three times a week exercise, but i

>> dont

>> know about omega 3. is it tablet or eat fish. Diana

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I'm very sorry , Pam, but although your message might be sound by many criteria,

I have to remind you that this is a vegetarian group. Fish is NOT vegetarian at

all - please understand that ;) But thanks for caring.

 

Best, Pat (Co-owner with Cindi)

 

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http://beanvegan.blogspot.com

http://river-rambles.blogspot.com

" As long as you derive inner help and comfort from anything, keep it. " Mahatma

Gandhi.

 

 

 

 

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pdw <pdworkman

 

Wednesday, March 18, 2009 11:42:46 PM

Re: Re: lose weight

 

Omega 3's can make a huge difference to depression. Fish oil or flax

oil capsules, or fish a few times a week, or ground flax and walnuts

daily. Lots of dark green leafy vegetables. You can also get omega 3

from algae.

 

Pam

 

On 3/18/09, davoodiandiana <davoodiandiana wrote:

> thank you Pam,i drink enough water, three times a week exercise, but i dont

> know about omega 3. is it tablet or eat fish. Diana

>

>

 

 

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Thanks, Pam. But please remember this is a vegetarian group - okay???? Gotta

keep the faith, gal!. Veggie good; non-veggie not so good. Appreciate your error

(and embarrassment - oops it's happened to so many, but . . . )

 

Loveya! Pat

 

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http://www.vegandonelight.com/spice

http://beanvegan.blogspot.com

http://river-rambles.blogspot.com

" As long as you derive inner help and comfort from anything, keep it. " Mahatma

Gandhi.

 

 

 

 

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pdw <pdworkman

 

Thursday, March 19, 2009 1:05:16 AM

Re: Re: lose weight

 

Whoops, my bad, I was thinking this was on a different list. My

apologies! We use flax, walnuts, and dark greens here.

 

Pam

 

On 3/18/09, Peggy Lewis <lwspeggy344 wrote:

> If we don't eat meat, why would we take fish oil capsules? That has been

> suggested to me by a carnivore but I didn't expect that suggestion here.

> Peggy

>

> --- On Wed, 3/18/09, pdw <pdworkman wrote:

>

>

> pdw <pdworkman

> Re: Re: lose weight

>

> Wednesday, March 18, 2009, 11:42 PM

Omega 3's can make a huge difference to depression. Fish oil or flax

> oil capsules, or fish a few times a week, or ground flax and walnuts

> daily. Lots of dark green leafy vegetables. You can also get omega 3

> from algae.

>

> Pam

>

> On 3/18/09, davoodiandiana <davoodiandiana@ .co. uk> wrote:

>> thank you Pam,i drink enough water, three times a week exercise, but i

>> dont

>> know about omega 3. is it tablet or eat fish. Diana

>>

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Quite agree!!!! Fish in any form is not acceptable to a vegetarian. Full Stop.

You would not, therefore, take fish oils. Please understand that not all members

here are really vegetarian (sigggghhhhh) but are trying to be vegetarian

sometime in their lifetimes (siggggghhhhh).

Please know that we do care for vegetarian sensibilities (as well as we

understand the wannabees who cannot yet come to it).

 

Hugs and love from someone who would not eat f*sh under any condition.

 

Pat (Co-owner with Cindi)

 

---

http://www.vegandonelight.com/spice

http://beanvegan.blogspot.com

http://river-rambles.blogspot.com

" As long as you derive inner help and comfort from anything, keep it. " Mahatma

Gandhi.

 

 

 

 

________________________________

Peggy Lewis <lwspeggy344

 

Thursday, March 19, 2009 12:40:34 AM

Re: Re: lose weight

 

If we don't eat meat, why would we take fish oil capsules? That has been

suggested to me by a carnivore but I didn't expect that suggestion here. Peggy

 

--- On Wed, 3/18/09, pdw <pdworkman wrote:

 

 

pdw <pdworkman

Re: Re: lose weight

 

Wednesday, March 18, 2009, 11:42 PM

 

 

 

 

 

 

Omega 3's can make a huge difference to depression. Fish oil or flax

oil capsules, or fish a few times a week, or ground flax and walnuts

daily. Lots of dark green leafy vegetables. You can also get omega 3

from algae.

 

Pam

 

On 3/18/09, davoodiandiana <davoodiandiana@ .co. uk> wrote:

> thank you Pam,i drink enough water, three times a week exercise, but i dont

> know about omega 3. is it tablet or eat fish. Diana

>

>

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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I am on many omni lists as well, including for bipolar and other

mental illness. Please note that Diana specifically asked about fish,

and as well as acknowledging that as a source, I suggested a number of

vegetarian sources as alternatives. Also note that she specifically

said that she is not a vegetarian. I made the mistake of not glancing

at the address line to check for dietary constraints (vegetarian,

vegan, gluten-free, etc.) which I would normally do, as she had

suggested fish herself.

 

Again, I apologize to all. I was trying to help and it was a simple oversight.

 

Pam

 

 

On Wed, Mar 18, 2009 at 10:27 PM, drpatsant

<drpatsant wrote:

> Thanks, Pam. But please remember this is a vegetarian group - okay???? Gotta

> keep the faith, gal!. Veggie good; non-veggie not so good. Appreciate your

> error (and embarrassment - oops it's happened to so many, but . . . )

>

> Loveya! Pat

 

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> pdw <pdworkman

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> Thursday, March 19, 2009 1:05:16 AM

> Re: Re: lose weight

>

> Whoops, my bad, I was thinking this was on a different list. My

> apologies! We use flax, walnuts, and dark greens here.

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> Pam

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We should just feel sorry for & try to educate the poor creatures.  LOL  It just

reminded of a time when a NURSE suggested that I eat more fish because my good

cholesterol is too low.  When I told her that I didn't eat meat, she suggested

that I take fish oil capsules.  I was speechless.  I didn't know whether to

laugh or scream. 

I really do appreciate that many people find it difficult to change lifelong

habits.  Like me with sugar!!!    Peggy

 

--- On Thu, 3/19/09, drpatsant <drpatsant wrote:

 

 

drpatsant <drpatsant

Re: Re: lose weight

 

Thursday, March 19, 2009, 1:30 AM

 

 

 

 

 

 

Quite agree!!!! Fish in any form is not acceptable to a vegetarian. Full Stop.

You would not, therefore, take fish oils. Please understand that not all members

here are really vegetarian (sigggghhhhh) but are trying to be vegetarian

sometime in their lifetimes (siggggghhhhh) .

Please know that we do care for vegetarian sensibilities (as well as we

understand the wannabees who cannot yet come to it).

 

Hugs and love from someone who would not eat f*sh under any condition.

 

Pat (Co-owner with Cindi)

 

---

http://www.vegandon elight.com/ spice

http://beanvegan. blogspot. com

http://river- rambles.blogspot .com

" As long as you derive inner help and comfort from anything, keep it. " Mahatma

Gandhi.

 

____________ _________ _________ __

Peggy Lewis <lwspeggy344@ >

 

Thursday, March 19, 2009 12:40:34 AM

Re: Re: lose weight

 

If we don't eat meat, why would we take fish oil capsules? That has been

suggested to me by a carnivore but I didn't expect that suggestion here. Peggy

 

--- On Wed, 3/18/09, pdw <pdworkman (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote:

 

pdw <pdworkman (AT) gmail (DOT) com>

Re: Re: lose weight

 

Wednesday, March 18, 2009, 11:42 PM

 

Omega 3's can make a huge difference to depression. Fish oil or flax

oil capsules, or fish a few times a week, or ground flax and walnuts

daily. Lots of dark green leafy vegetables. You can also get omega 3

from algae.

 

Pam

 

On 3/18/09, davoodiandiana <davoodiandiana@ .co. uk> wrote:

> thank you Pam,i drink enough water, three times a week exercise, but i dont

> know about omega 3. is it tablet or eat fish. Diana

>

>

 

 

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Yes I know what you mean. I was on the telephone to another city yesterday,

planning to visit an elderly relative in a Seniors' home. The nurse said that

rather than take our relative out for lunch that it'd be better to lunch there -

'complimentary of course' (too kind!). I replied that my dh and I ate only vegan

(and I explained what that meant), so it would be better for us to grab lunch

ahead of time elsewhere. Oh no, she insisted, we could dine there as long as she

warned the dietician to provide us with a nice egg salad. Does she think eggs

grow on trees, I wonder. I explained again but have no hopes. We'll be packing

sandwiches, I'm afraid LOL

 

So yes the confusion about what is and what isn't 'animal' is huge. Some think

'meat' means beef and/or other red meat. Others think it includes only mammals

(pity those poor 'roos!). Others think a vegetarian IS a vegetarian as long as

only wild 'game', including so-called game birds, are consumed along with water

creatures rather than domestic beasts. As for 'animal products' - gelatin and

meat stock, marshamallows, may kinds of sweets/candy and, for vegans, milk and

cheese, casein, eggs, etc. - oh don't even try to go there. As for fish - oh

hey, they don't seem to count. I've been at this for many years now and

sometimes I get really frustrated.

 

Needless to say, my reminders along these lines are seldom appreciated. I can

live with that.

 

As for lifelong habits, people would change them fast enough if they were

properly motivated, I would think. The fact is, they aren't so they don't. We

try to educate, as you suggest. That should give motivation ;) (or maybe

'should' but doesn't?)

 

Hugs, Pat

 

---

http://www.vegandonelight.com/spice

http://beanvegan.blogspot.com

http://river-rambles.blogspot.com

" As long as you derive inner help and comfort from anything, keep it. " Mahatma

Gandhi.

 

 

We should just feel sorry for & try to educate the poor creatures. LOL It just

reminded of a time when a NURSE suggested that I eat more fish because my good

cholesterol is too low. When I told her that I didn't eat meat, she suggested

that I take fish oil capsules. I was speechless. I didn't know whether to

laugh or scream.

I really do appreciate that many people find it difficult to change lifelong

habits. Like me with sugar!!! Peggy

 

 

 

 

 

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Can happen to anyone, Pam :)

 

Hugs, Pat

 

---

http://www.vegandonelight.com/spice

http://beanvegan.blogspot.com

http://river-rambles.blogspot.com

" As long as you derive inner help and comfort from anything, keep it. " Mahatma

Gandhi.

 

 

I am on many omni lists as well, including for bipolar and other

mental illness. Please note that Diana specifically asked about fish,

and as well as acknowledging that as a source, I suggested a number of

vegetarian sources as alternatives. Also note that she specifically

said that she is not a vegetarian. I made the mistake of not glancing

at the address line to check for dietary constraints (vegetarian,

vegan, gluten-free, etc.) which I would normally do, as she had

suggested fish herself.

 

Again, I apologize to all. I was trying to help and it was a simple oversight.

 

Pam

 

 

 

 

 

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I'm afraid I'll have to admit that for a long time I didn't realize that I

shouldn't eat gelatin and marshmallows.  I should have realized but I never even

thought about it. And then there are people like my sister that think I can only

eat salads and things made specifically for vegetarians.  Part of that is the

fact that here in the south cooks often season many veggies with meat.   Peggy

 

--- On Thu, 3/19/09, drpatsant <drpatsant wrote:

 

 

drpatsant <drpatsant

Re: Re: lose weight

 

Thursday, March 19, 2009, 3:33 PM

 

 

 

 

 

 

Yes I know what you mean. I was on the telephone to another city yesterday,

planning to visit an elderly relative in a Seniors' home. The nurse said that

rather than take our relative out for lunch that it'd be better to lunch there -

'complimentary of course' (too kind!). I replied that my dh and I ate only vegan

(and I explained what that meant), so it would be better for us to grab lunch

ahead of time elsewhere. Oh no, she insisted, we could dine there as long as she

warned the dietician to provide us with a nice egg salad. Does she think eggs

grow on trees, I wonder. I explained again but have no hopes. We'll be packing

sandwiches, I'm afraid LOL

 

So yes the confusion about what is and what isn't 'animal' is huge. Some think

'meat' means beef and/or other red meat. Others think it includes only mammals

(pity those poor 'roos!). Others think a vegetarian IS a vegetarian as long as

only wild 'game', including so-called game birds, are consumed along with water

creatures rather than domestic beasts. As for 'animal products' - gelatin and

meat stock, marshamallows, may kinds of sweets/candy and, for vegans, milk and

cheese, casein, eggs, etc. - oh don't even try to go there. As for fish - oh

hey, they don't seem to count. I've been at this for many years now and

sometimes I get really frustrated.

 

Needless to say, my reminders along these lines are seldom appreciated. I can

live with that.

 

As for lifelong habits, people would change them fast enough if they were

properly motivated, I would think. The fact is, they aren't so they don't. We

try to educate, as you suggest. That should give motivation ;) (or maybe

'should' but doesn't?)

 

Hugs, Pat

 

---

http://www.vegandon elight.com/ spice

http://beanvegan. blogspot. com

http://river- rambles.blogspot .com

" As long as you derive inner help and comfort from anything, keep it. " Mahatma

Gandhi.

 

We should just feel sorry for & try to educate the poor creatures. LOL It just

reminded of a time when a NURSE suggested that I eat more fish because my good

cholesterol is too low. When I told her that I didn't eat meat, she suggested

that I take fish oil capsules. I was speechless. I didn't know whether to laugh

or scream.

I really do appreciate that many people find it difficult to change lifelong

habits. Like me with sugar!!! Peggy

 

 

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