Guest guest Posted May 22, 2005 Report Share Posted May 22, 2005 I appreciate the recipes being posted as is. It seems fairly hypocritical to banish one fruit of the honeybees labor, while making your main diet all the other products thereof. Yes, grains and seaweed don't depend on honeybees, but much of you diet does - almonds, soybeans, squash, pumpins, melons, blueberries (and most other berries), apples, pears, and on and on, including many seeds used for sprouting. Unless you grow these yourself, honeybees are used to get them to your table (and if you do so yourself, you've discovered how low your yield is on some of these when depending only on native bees ... which are practically absent from large farms). There are some crops using other bees - tomatoes use bumblebees, apples in Japan use orchard bees (most here use honeybees), for example. Honey is simply the nectar of the flowers visited, combined with enzymes to convert the sugars to a more digestible form (sucrose ==> glucose+fructose). Not really much different from using bacteria to create soy yogurt or enzymes in making rice syrup. These honeybees would cease to exist without the beekeeper to treat for some parasites, as have the feral honeybees other than africanized bees in this country. And the beekeeper would not truck those bees around without some method of profit, which includes the honey crop from a few of the crops they are set on (many pollination crops require feeding the bees at the same time or they will starve). Few of these beekeepers pursue barbaric practices such as killing off their stock for the winter -- by purchasing honey from a local beekeeper you are almost assured of getting honey from someon who cares for them well. Commercial honey is also heat treated (to kill off the enzymes) and ultra filtered (to remove proteins such as pollen) - it is not carcinogenic, but lacks the vitality of a raw honey (which research has proven is the only known source of antioxidants that when ingested results in an almost immediate increase in blood level antioxidants). A lot of commercial honey is also mixed from countries such as China (where what they are producing isn't really honey and banned chemicals are used). Yes, you can use some alternatives - maple syrup, various grades of molasses or even brown rice syrup (but watch out, many of these are not GF and the barley enzymes used are not declared on the labels). But these won't have quite the same properties or taste (honey is hygroscopic and keeps baked goods fresh longer, as they don't dry out as quickly). Karen > > > Also, for pure vegans, the honey question is always a problem when posting > recipes from others. " Some " vegans use honey. Yes, I know that those who > are pure vegans do not. When posting recipes I try to post them as > originally written the the recipe developer/author/source. They are the > ones who have tested the recipe and so forth. So. . .for recipes that call > for honey, I generally post it as such but make a note somewhere in the > recipe given what appropriate vegan substitutions can be. I just wanted to > mention that, as I don't wish to offend anyone here. --- [This E-mail scanned for viruses by Declude Virus] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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