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Does not AAPN group has its focus on animalsuffering in particular? So do I.

Animalsuffering occurs in all cultures and it upsets me.

 

I don't see how posting this article down below, or any other I posted, is not

approved by some, or leads to accusing me of attacking Culture or even

neglecting Human Rights.

Even if it is not about Animal Welfare, one may post such, ány time at all, so I

will.

 

LPC

 

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OAARS

; Le Petit Chien

Cc: aapn

Tuesday, November 28, 2006 11:55 AM

Re: (Iraq) Pigs Shot, Set on Fire in Military Training

 

 

Wondering if you are also aware of how many strays have been brought to the

States by Military Personnel in Iraq. This was done at an enormous cost, and

lots of red tape. Don't attack all for the wrong doings of a few.

 

Liz

 

wrote:

*DOES THIS COME AS ANY SURPRISE CONSIDERING THAT THE ANGLO AMERICAN

COALITION HAS KILLED 650,000 CIVILIANS IN COLD BLOOD TO 'LIBERATE' IRAQ?

KILLING PIGS AND SETTING THEM ON FIRE IS UNQUESTIONABLY WRONG BUT IT IS ALSO

WRONG TO USE DEPLETED URANIUM TO KILL TWO MONTH OLD BABIES. IT IS ALSO WRONG

TO URINATE AND DEFECATE ON PRISONERS. IT ALSO WRONG TO SHOOT JOURNALISTS ON

DUTY. IT IS ALSO WRONG TO USE ELECTRIC SHOCKS ON PEOPLE DURING

INTERROGATION. IT IS ALSO WRONG TO MASTURBATE ON PEOPLE TO HAVE PHOTOS TAKEN

FOR FUN. HUMANS ARE ALSO ANIMALS, RIGHT? CONCERN FOR PIGS IS FINE BUT THERE

MUST BE CONCERN FOR PEOPLE AS WELL. ANY ANIMAL RIGHTS SCHEME THAT DISREGARDS

HUMAN RIGHTS CAN ONLY FLOUNDER. THIS IS UNCOMFORTABLE BUT IT HAS TO

BE REMINDED TO KEEP ISSUES IN PERSPECTIVE.*

 

On 11/27/06, Le Petit Chien <perro10 wrote:

>

> (Crossposted from another newsgroup)

>

> Originally Posted by rayshick <rayshick%40msn.com>

> Sun Nov 26, 2006 4:31 am (PST)

>

> Pigs Shot, Set on Fire in Military Training

>

>

>

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>

>

> Tell DOD (Department of Defense) To Stop Cruel Training Exercises,

> Develop More Appropriate Human Trauma Models

>

> A recent article in The New York Times profiled a Navy medic in Iraq

> who is treating wounded combat soldiers. In interviewing the medic,

> the Times asked the 22-year-old how he trained for the job. The

> medic said he took several courses before he was deployed, including

> one advanced trauma treatment program where instructors gave each

> corpsman an anesthetized pig. His pig was shot eight times and set

> on fire during a 15-hour time period during which the medic worked

> to keep the pig alive.

>

> Excerpt from the article: (NYTimes, Nov. 2, 2006)

>

> Petty Officer Kirby began to list the schools he had attended to be

> ready for this moment. Some he had paid for himself, he said, to be

> extra-prepared.

>

> In one course, an advanced trauma treatment program he had taken

> before deploying, he said, the instructors gave each corpsman an

> anesthetized pig.

>

> " The idea is to work with live tissue, " he said. " You get a pig and

> you keep it alive. And every time I did something to help him, they

> would wound him again. So you see what shock does, and what happens

> when more wounds are received by a wounded creature. "

>

> " My pig? " he said. " They shot him twice in the face with a 9-

> millimeter pistol, and then six times with an AK-47 and then twice

> with a 12-gauge shotgun. And then he was set on fire. "

>

> " I kept him alive for 15 hours, " he said. " That was my pig, " he said.

> For complete article, go to:

>

> Please contact the Secretary of Defense and chairs of the

> Congressional Armed Services Committees about this matter.

>

> * Urge them to cut funding for and endorsement of this type of

> training.

>

> * Tell them that there is enough violence in the world and that

> causing animals to suffer over human-made conflicts is inappropriate

>

> * Tell them that there are humane ways to learn about trauma

> medicine, including by participating with human physicians in

> hospitals all over the United States on patients who have been shot

> or are severely injured and in need of trauma care.

>

> Contact information follows:

>

> Robert Gates

> Secretary of Defense

> 1000 Defense Pentagon

> Washington, DC 20301-1000

>

> Rep. Duncan Hunter, Chair

> House Armed Services Committee

> 2120 Rayburn House Office Building

> Washington, DC 20515

>

> Senator John Warner, Chair

> Senate Armed Services Committee

> 228 Russell Senate Office Building

> Washington, DC 20510

>

>