Guest guest Posted February 21, 2009 Report Share Posted February 21, 2009 Do beans and rice equal protein? I have heard this and so I did a Google search and found out a lot of answers. This is a site you may be familiar with that seems a good source for information. http://www.bbc.co.uk/food/vegetarian_and_vegan/vegetarianproteins.shtml<http://w\ ww.bbc.co.uk/food/vegetarian_and_vegan/vegetarianproteins.shtml> I am always complaining of being hungry, so maybe I need more protein? Possibly, this bread may be a big help? I am thinking of using 1/2 C. rice flour and 1/2 C. cornmeal. If I use my Vita Mix unit, I should be able to make my own rice flour. I used brackets for my changes Is this a good recipe to boost the protein? I realize this is high in concentrated calories, and it would need to be eaten in moderation. Thanks for any input. Barb K AZ/OR Bean Bread [Tsu-ya-ga from Cherokee Indian] 1 C. cornmeal [1/2 rice flour-1/2 corn meal] 1/2 C. flour [whole wheat] 2 t. baking powder 2 C. milk [skim or non dairy] 1/4 cup oil [olive oil or applesauce] 1 egg [egg substitute] 3 T. honey 2 C. cooked, drained brown beans Mix liquids, add dry, fold in beans 450 degrees about 30 minutes No info was given for the pans. I would use two medium size bread loaf pans or even a flatter pan, so bread could be cut like corn bread. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 21, 2009 Report Share Posted February 21, 2009 Well, Barbara, I can't speak for you but only for myself. If I find I'm hungry even though I have eaten plenty of calories for my weight, then it is usually coincidental with eating food that gives my body a bit of a sugar rush (and no, I'm not diabetic nor anything near it) and then when that wears off I'm tired and 'hungry'. Best thing for me is to look for foods which take a while to get into the bloodstream (easy on the things made from most flours, white rice, white potatoes, blah blah blah) - those foods with lots of fibre. Whole foods are best. As for protein, it has been found that we need far less than previously thought and that too much protein can be counterproductive especially as we get older. Protein can for example leach the calcium out of the bod, which isn't good at my age. It's also hard on the kidneys, ditto. I doubt you're deficient in protein. I don't know about the bread recipe, except to say I don't put either sugar (and honey is sugar) or fat/oil into my homemade bread. There are good recipes without it. Try www.fatfreevegan.com if you don't find anything good in our files. That's Susan Voisin's site, and she is fabulous. Good luck and hope this helps - Pat P.S. As a rough calculation of _minimum_ calories needed by a person in a day before the body starts to rebel and change its metabolism or whatever try this rule of thumb: multiply your weight in pounds by 10 to get the calories needed as that minimum. So at 105 pounds I need 1050 calories each day at least. Therefore, at 150 lbs, one needs 1500 minimum. (You can do the math for the rest.) Of course, if one is very active, then one can eat more --- http://www.vegandonelight.com/spice http://beanvegan.blogspot.com http://river-rambles.blogspot.com " The world is a stage, but the play is badly cast. " (Oscar Wilde) ________________________________ BARBARA KIPPER <Kipper38 VEGSlim Saturday, February 21, 2009 12:56:46 PM Beans and Rice = Protein? Do beans and rice equal protein? I have heard this and so I did a Google search and found out a lot of answers. This is a site you may be familiar with that seems a good source for information. http://www.bbc.co.uk/food/vegetarian_and_vegan/vegetarianproteins.shtml<http://w\ ww.bbc.co.uk/food/vegetarian_and_vegan/vegetarianproteins.shtml> I am always complaining of being hungry, so maybe I need more protein? Possibly, this bread may be a big help? I am thinking of using 1/2 C. rice flour and 1/2 C. cornmeal. If I use my Vita Mix unit, I should be able to make my own rice flour. I used brackets for my changes Is this a good recipe to boost the protein? I realize this is high in concentrated calories, and it would need to be eaten in moderation. Thanks for any input. Barb K AZ/OR Bean Bread [Tsu-ya-ga from Cherokee Indian] 1 C. cornmeal [1/2 rice flour-1/2 corn meal] 1/2 C. flour [whole wheat] 2 t. baking powder 2 C. milk [skim or non dairy] 1/4 cup oil [olive oil or applesauce] 1 egg [egg substitute] 3 T. honey 2 C. cooked, drained brown beans Mix liquids, add dry, fold in beans 450 degrees about 30 minutes No info was given for the pans. I would use two medium size bread loaf pans or even a flatter pan, so bread could be cut like corn bread. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 21, 2009 Report Share Posted February 21, 2009 On Sat, Feb 21, 2009 at 10:56 AM, BARBARA KIPPER <Kipper38 wrote: > Do beans and rice equal protein? > I have heard this and so I did a Google search and found out a lot of > answers. Yes, beans and rice both have good amounts of protein in them. Particularly if you are using a brown rice rather than white. Leafy greens also have lots of protein in them, and plenty of vitamins, minerals, and other good things. It was once through that you needed to combine foods like beans and rice in one meal to get protein that was " as good " as meat, but that theory was based on rat studies and was long since discredited, though many people still believe it in one form or another. Quinoa is another grain (actually a pseudo-cereal) that is high in protein. > I am always complaining of being hungry, so maybe I need more protein? > Possibly, this bread may be a big help? I would increase greens at least as much as beans and grains. They are lower calorie, but still have lots of protein and vitamins in them, and may be able to help with cravings. Lots of fibre to fill you up and keep your blood sugar stable, but that is true of beans and whole grains as well. > > I am thinking of using 1/2 C. rice flour and 1/2 C. cornmeal. > If I use my Vita Mix unit, I should be able to make my own rice flour. > I used brackets for my changes > Personally, I would sooner spend my time creating a bean and rice dish that wasn't as fiddly, there are lots of bean and rice dishes in most cultures. Eating more loaf bread dishes tends, in my opinion, to encourage us to eat more fat and sugar (butter/marg, jam, preserves, mayo, pb, etc.) You might want to look at making some traditional dosas (rice & bean crepe-like flatbreads) or something similar. But yes, you can grind your own corn and rice. Use whole corn and brown rice as much as possible. Pam > Is this a good recipe to boost the protein? > I realize this is high in concentrated calories, and it would need to be > eaten in moderation. > > Thanks for any input. > Barb K > AZ/OR > > Bean Bread > [Tsu-ya-ga from Cherokee Indian] > > 1 C. cornmeal [1/2 rice flour-1/2 corn meal] > 1/2 C. flour [whole wheat] > 2 t. baking powder > 2 C. milk [skim or non dairy] > 1/4 cup oil [olive oil or applesauce] > 1 egg [egg substitute] > 3 T. honey > 2 C. cooked, drained brown beans > > Mix liquids, add dry, fold in beans > 450 degrees about 30 minutes > No info was given for the pans. > I would use two medium size bread loaf pans or even a flatter pan, so bread > could be cut like corn bread. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 22, 2009 Report Share Posted February 22, 2009 My understanding is the magic combination is: Legumes and grains equal a complete protein. The one exception that I know of as far as legumes is peanuts--they do not create a complete protein when combined with grains. I am not sure what they are missing. So, I try to always have a bean and vegetable stew in the fridge to heat up. I am allergic to gluten so I usually have some other grain, like rice, quinoa, etc. The vegetarian classic book, Diet for a Small Planet discusses this ad nauseum. Yes, in our culture most people get way too much protein, but that is more aimed at meat eaters and lacto-ovo vegetarians. Kathleen > Do beans and rice equal protein? > I have heard this and so I did a Google search and found out a lot of answers. > This is a site you may be familiar with that seems a good source for information. > http://www.bbc.co.uk/food/vegetarian_and_vegan/vegetarianproteins.shtml< http://www.bbc.co.uk/food/vegetarian_and_vegan/vegetarianproteins.shtml> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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