cost of GF foods/intro

[Guest guest]

Having bypass surgery complications things tremendously. But the first thing

you have to do is take responsibility for confirming your food is gluten

free. No clerk in a store will know (although they will tell with

authority). Protein bars are sometimes gf, but you have to call each company

to find out which ones (as wheat gluten is a good quality protein). All are

expensive food replacements (that may be necessitated by your surgery, not

the gf diet).

 

Pound cake will always be what unless it screams Gluten Freee on the label -

as will be all baked goods, cookies, breads and so on at the store. None are

high protein and gluten free versions very expensive.

 

Eating out involves letting others who don't know the gf diet and who have

non-gf ingredients all over the kitchen (that they normally use) have

control of your health. Mistakes will happen and sometimes you'll catch

them; sometimes you won't. But it is always expensive.

 

Eat more basic foods - beans are your cheapeast vegan protein source (but

need other things like rice to balance amino acids) and come in a vairietty

of colors and flavors (don't forget many types of lentils, soybeans, etc).

Brown rice and various corns can balance those out. Quinoa, teff and

montinoa (a wild rice) are all higher protein gf grains. But, you may not

be able to get sufficient protein from real food without adding your protein

powder (you can get soy and rice proteins at nearly 100% levels) to what you

make, due to limited intake.

 

Discuss it with your doctor, but you may have to add meat back to the

equation to get enough nutrition. And your supplements for vitamins are a

lifetime requirement (just make sure ALL are gf) and expense. Unfortunately,

these aspects of surgery seldom make an impression on people before they

have it done (maybe they need a pill that simulates the effect you take for

3 months first - at which point most would find they lose weight by not

eating so much, the surgery is just the enforcer .. but for life, not for

the weight loss period).

 

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[Guest guest]

> But how can I do it when dodos tell me over the phone

> that their products are GF and then OOPS, they are wrong. They

> misread the computer screen.

 

As much as possible, request information via email or to be sent a letter

confirming the information if over the phone -- you'll get fewer mistakes.

 

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>Wouldn't you know it, but I have also had weight loss surgery. So I need a

>high-protein diet. <snip> But I also have to stick to a high protein diet....

 

Hi Shoshannah;

 

I felt alarmed for your sake, when I read your claim about " needing " a high

protein diet.... so I felt obliged to speak up.

 

The American Diabetes Association (ADA) and the American Heart Association (AHA)

have issued warnings about the dangers of high-protein diets. The AHA says that

they have the potential to put you at risk for cardiovascular disease,

particularly heart attacks. These dangers are due mostly to eating animal

products.

 

Was your weight loss surgery the type that reduced the size of your stomach?

.... which means you are only able to eat small portions.

 

That's Ok. Getting plenty of protein is very easy even on a natural,

whole-foods, low-fat *VEGAN* (plant based, no animal products) diet.

 

How about reading the report on this webpage? It talks about the dangers of

high protein diets, which by default are also low-carbohydrate diets.

http://www.atkinsdietalert.org/advisory.html

 

And this webpage http://www.atkinsdietalert.org/healthier.html starts with the

line " If you're looking to lose weight but want to avoid the hazards of the

high-protein fad diets, consider replacing animal products with low-fat plant

foods. "

 

The following websites are stories from people who did just that... undertook a

vegan, *LOW-FAT* diet, lost their excess weight... and importantly, also

improved their health rather than endangering it.

 

http://www.vegsource.com/articles/kelly_mcdougall.htm

 

http://www.vegsource.com/articles/evelyn_weightloss.htm

 

http://www.drmcdougall.com/stars/star05_jessica.html

 

http://www.drmcdougall.com/stars/star17_uncle_buck.html

 

Wishing you all the best...

 

Deborah

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

Welcome, Shoshanna! First of all, most anything I've bought that's GF had

" gluten free " right on the label, plainly. I wouldn't trust ANYONE (except maybe

a very reputable company like Miss Roben's or Ener-G Foods) to be totaly GF or

to know exactly what's in each and every product they sell. Forget

restaurants for a while, until you feel a bit better, and are more secure in

what you

know and how to communicate with the various places effectively. Celiac

societies sell these little " dining cards " that can help get your point across

that

you are SERIOUS and need them to be intelligent OR ELSE.

 

I'm not sure why you need a high protein diet after weight loss surgery, so I

don't really have much advice there, except to agree with the person

(sorry--I forget who said this!) who told you that there is PLENTY of protein on

a

vegan diet, and most Americans get TOO MUCH protein for their own good anyway!

It's absolutely true. I'd be much more afraid of getting too much than too

little, but then I haven't had weight loss surgery and don't know exactly what

you

were told, who told it to you, or what their reasoning was (or their

nutritional IQ, for that matter, which is VITAL).

 

Anyway, glad you're here, and hope you feel better soon! Marilyn