Guest guest Posted November 21, 2005 Report Share Posted November 21, 2005 In a message dated 11/21/2005 5:32:26 PM Pacific Standard Time, lindai81 writes: > They had an " expert nutritionist " that said this was the best diet since > one could not get all of the necessary nutrients from a vegetarian diet I guess they have no idea that the Wolfberry contains all essential amino acids. My aunt and uncle raised all 12 of thier kids vegetarian. They were all healthy and strong without meat and I am sure they had a balanced enough diet so they were not anemic or protien deprived. Meat eaters have so many myths about diet deficencies of being vegetarians. Meat eaters never think about how many more acres it takes to feed them as opposed to vegetarians. They need to do more research into how much land and water are being wasted or misused to take care of them. Oops now I went and got started. Lisa sliding off her soapbox Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 21, 2005 Report Share Posted November 21, 2005 How many of you have gotten the, " But look at all of the plants that must be killed to feed you! " ? I've always thought that anybody with half a brain would think about this one before even opening his or her mouth. This is surely the argument of a halfwitted nitwit. Just cracks me up! Sherry (heard it all before) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 21, 2005 Report Share Posted November 21, 2005 Hi Sherry. i don't even consider that an argument - more so a defensive statement that probably not originated in their own head but adopted from a common and very simply minded meatheaded comment (of which they heard someone else say) that is always thrown about when the issue of vegetarianism (or similar diet) comes up. I remember reading on this group that a boyfriend confronted his vegetarian girlfriend that she kills several bugs and organisms when she turns on the light because the light bulb fries them. So how could she POSSIBLY be a vegetarian?? What does this childish type of statement mean? (This isn't a very good example but), if I don't like " action " movies but I politely went along with some friends to check out the latest action flick that " they " wanted to see....does this mean I like action movies now - have always liked them and will always like that genre of film? That's some mussed up math if ya ask me. S. On 11/21/05, Sherry Rose wrote: > How many of you have gotten the, " But look at all of the plants that must > be killed to feed you! " ? I've always thought that anybody with half a brain > would think about this one before even opening his or her mouth. This is > surely the argument of a halfwitted nitwit. Just cracks me up! > > Sherry (heard it all before) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 21, 2005 Report Share Posted November 21, 2005 Oh yeah, forgot about that one. It's sort of an extreme example of the consistency argument (i.e., wearing leather, but eating vegetarian). Of course, it only " works " on those who have said they are vegetarian for ethical or animal rights reasons. Maybe plants do have some sort of feelings or sensory perception. I think they probably do. But we have to eat *something*. I usually argue that plants don't have central nervous systems. <shrug> On the other hand, there are always fruitarians who only eat the fruits and seeds of plants and therefore do no harm to them. And if the m#@t-eater then proclaims " well, you have deprived the plant of its opportunity for those seeds to grow " (and yes, some have debated this far with me, lol), I think it's more a function of our modern sewage system than the fault of the fruitarian that the seed does not get a chance at creating life. -Erin , Sherry Rose <sherry@c...> wrote: > > How many of you have gotten the, " But look at all of the plants that must > be killed to feed you! " ? I've always thought that anybody with half a brain > would think about this one before even opening his or her mouth. This is > surely the argument of a halfwitted nitwit. Just cracks me up! > > Sherry (heard it all before) > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 21, 2005 Report Share Posted November 21, 2005 Hahaha! Yep! :::raises hand to be counted::: Best response to that one? i'm still looking for a good one. Last time i just gave them my best " doh, you are so silly " look and walked away. ~ pt ~ The wild gander leads his flock through the cool night, Ya-honk! he says, and sounds it down to me like an invitation: The pert may suppose it meaningless, but I listen closer, I find its purpose and place up there toward the November sky. - Walt Whitman, Leaves of Grass, 1855, I Celebrate Myself, Line 238 ~~~*~~~*~~~> , Sherry Rose <sherry@c...> wrote: > > How many of you have gotten the, " But look at all of the plants that must > be killed to feed you! " ? I've always thought that anybody with half a brain > would think about this one before even opening his or her mouth. This is > surely the argument of a halfwitted nitwit. Just cracks me up! > > Sherry (heard it all before) > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 21, 2005 Report Share Posted November 21, 2005 There was a news item here on a local TV station about a new category of people...flexitarians. Those that eat plants mostly I guess but also include bits of meat like in salad. They had an " expert nutritionist " that said this was the best diet since one could not get all of the necessary nutrients from a vegetarian diet. This " expert " was someone from a college back in Ohio or somewhere like that. Our local station aired it. I sent them the American Dietetic Ass. analysis of the vegetarian diet...they never responded, but I do know that the piece wasn't put together here. Why did these people need a new label? linda " Whatever you do will be insignificant and it is very important that you do it. " Mohandas Gandhi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 21, 2005 Report Share Posted November 21, 2005 Well, the main argument could be that the animals eat oh-so-many more of the plants for the amount of food that carnivores get for their body parts. So if somebody was truly concerned about the plants (and whom have you met who really is?), eating them directly would cause far fewer to " be killed. " Sherry (who has no qualms about weeding her garden) At 04:08 PM 11/21/2005, you wrote: >Oh yeah, forgot about that one. It's sort of an extreme example >of the consistency argument (i.e., wearing leather, but eating >vegetarian). Of course, it only " works " on those who have said >they are vegetarian for ethical or animal rights reasons. > >Maybe plants do have some sort of feelings or sensory perception. >I think they probably do. But we have to eat *something*. I >usually argue that plants don't have central nervous systems. ><shrug> > >On the other hand, there are always fruitarians who only eat >the fruits and seeds of plants and therefore do no harm to them. >And if the m#@t-eater then proclaims " well, you have deprived >the plant of its opportunity for those seeds to grow " (and yes, >some have debated this far with me, lol), I think it's more a >function of our modern sewage system than the fault of the >fruitarian that the seed does not get a chance at creating life. > > >-Erin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 21, 2005 Report Share Posted November 21, 2005 I just read this response the other night and must remember it. It is the truth! linda " Whatever you do will be insignificant and it is very important that you do it. " Mohandas Gandhi linda's Growing Stitchery Projects: womyn47 - Sherry Rose Well, the main argument could be that the animals eat oh-so-many more of the plants for the amount of food that carnivores get for their body parts. So if somebody was truly concerned about the plants (and whom have you met who really is?), eating them directly would cause far fewer to " be killed. " Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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