Guest guest Posted November 27, 2005 Report Share Posted November 27, 2005 Here is this week's group question: Why did you choose a vegetarian diet and if applicable what was the isolated incident that prompted the change? The QOTW [question of the week] is just for fun and to encourage sharing of ideas. Add your response when you find the time. ~ pt ~ The doorstep to the temple of wisdom is a knowledge of our own ignorance. ~ Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 27, 2005 Report Share Posted November 27, 2005 Omgoddess! Didn't you get enough of me and my reasons already to last a life time? But good question and I will be interested in hearing the answers. Maybe I will chime in at some point...under an alias. I will say that I am a vegan due to the fact that laying hens and dairy cows are the most abused factory farmed animal...a chicken is considered the most abused animal in the world actually. This includes the so called free range or organic layer hen. When you use dairy products you support the veal industry whether or not you want to. When you eat eggs you support the fact that the male baby chicks are immediately culled out and killed and mostly by inhumane methods such as stuffing them into plastic bags and left to suffocate. Have you ever seen a baby chick? Cute as can be. They kill them because the chickens have been genetically designed to lay eggs and won't be suitable as a broiler. Broiler chickens have been genetically designed to grow rapidly so as not to use much in the way of resources and they don't make good layer hens. Then give up eating chicken. Then the pig, and then the cow. So, when talking to some one that wants to transition to a vegetarian diet I suggest that they give up eggs and dairy first, then chicken, then pig, and then cows and all of the other animals that we eat. Why not the beef cow first? Because if you want to have an impact on how many animals are brutalized think in terms of how many you eat. You end up eating far more chickens in comparison to how many beef cows you eat. You use way far more eggs and dairy products than you eat chickens...Kind of like you eat only one lobster, but if someone put one shrimp on your plate you would holler about being hungry...you would have to eat a lot of shrimp to equal one lobster. What was the one incident that turned me into a vegan? PETA sent me the video " Meet Your Meat. " Seared into my brain and the eyes of this one particular dairy cow is etched there permanently. It is devastating that all of these years I have been a participant in the harming of all animals. linda " Whatever you do will be insignificant and it is very important that you do it. " Mohandas Gandhi linda's Growing Stitchery Projects: womyn47 - ~ PT ~ Here is this week's group question: Why did you choose a vegetarian diet and if applicable what was the isolated incident that prompted the change? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 27, 2005 Report Share Posted November 27, 2005 Why did you choose a vegetarian diet and if applicable what was the isolated incident that prompted the change? Well I was slow at this one but first of all I had to lose some weight (100 pounds and it is still gone) so I started with Richard Simmons I could have 5 oz of meat/fish a day or 3 cups of beans. Well the beans won out so that is how I got started the real incident I think came after I read Diet for a New America by John Robbins. Boy that was an eye opener. We always raised our own beef so I was really not aware of the abuse. I was aware of some things from going to teh Culinary adn of course we had to see all those horrible slaughter house movies. I have evolved since then and it bothers me to kill anything(well a spider maybe we have black widows) I am going to start going a bit more vegan this year-I did not buy any dairy today I got Silk Nog, and have 4 eggs left. I also bought a couple new books to get me on the tofu scramble thing and I think it is possible. I have no desire to support such industries. Well I am getting off the soapbox-----------------next! Linda Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 27, 2005 Report Share Posted November 27, 2005 Your story is pretty typical...Robbins first book got me off to vegetarism when it came out and then over the years I didn't think about being a vegan until I saw Meet Your Meat. I instantaneously became a vegan and never a look back...since the darn cow stares at me all of the time reminding me of all animals' plight. If you need help just holler...some recipes are easily converted to vegan and some aren't. You can do scrambled eggs too with the tofu...a package of Fantastic's Tofu Scramble is a start...I add sesame oil to it (not toasted) and a little mirin (sweet cooking rice wine) and scramble it in Earth Balance. I put them in corn taco shells too along with salsa, and tofutti sour cream for a wonderful vegan breakfast. I buy organic, but the package stuff isn't...I eventually want to stop that, but one step at a time as long as it is vegan. Robbins book called The Food Revolution, 2001, is great too and very up to date. I am reading Jane Goodall's new book (2005) called Harvest for Hope and it is a treasure as is she. linda - Linda C Why did you choose a vegetarian diet and if applicable what was the isolated incident that prompted the change? I am going to start going a bit more vegan this year-I did not buy any dairy today I got Silk Nog, and have 4 eggs left. I also bought a couple new books to get me on the tofu scramble thing and I think it is possible. I have no desire to support such industries. Well I am getting off the soapbox-----------------next! Linda Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 27, 2005 Report Share Posted November 27, 2005 , " ~ PT ~ " <patchouli_troll> wrote: > > Here is this week's group question: > > Why did you choose a vegetarian diet and if > applicable what was the isolated incident that > prompted the change? lobster used to be my favourite food. one day, when i was about 8, my parents took me to a restaurant where you pick out the live lobster that they will cook for you. i never ate lobster again. then, when i was in the eighth grade, my school took us on a field trip to one of those eighteenth-century villages, complete with an eighteenth-century slaughterhouse. stopped eating red meat then. i quit chicken in 1994 when i realized i hadn't eaten it in a month without thinking, and then made the jump to veganism 5 years ago after i met some vegans and decided to do some research on why people would shun dairy, eggs, and honey. i realized that it just didn't go with my morality to continue eating those products, so off they went, too. i've been a proud vegan for 5 years now, and i've never felt better. melody http://www.flawlessfitness.com http://www.melodysmusic.net Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 27, 2005 Report Share Posted November 27, 2005 I am not total vegitarian but working my way that direction....Mine was that I had a gastric by-pass and still am having GREAT difficulty digesting meat. I can do most sea foods and dairy but have lots of difficulty with almost everyting else. Another big push was/is the Mad Cow disease and the fact that I do not want my daughter to get it from beef. We are both slowly moving more and more closer to being total vegitarians. (she eats a hamburger maybe once a month) My daughter and I had dressing and potatoes and gravy and pumpkin pudding yesterday. WE didn't miss the other at all. We both don't like most TSP and any of the artifical meat style products (I often find them as difficult to digest as the real stuff ) I am interested in the grinder type vegtable loafs though....(hint hint) Haven't tried any but seeing chefs make them on TV makes me soooo courious Kay > Here is this week's group question: > > Why did you choose a vegetarian diet and if > applicable what was the isolated incident that > prompted the change? > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 28, 2005 Report Share Posted November 28, 2005 A lot of the meat replacements are made from wheat gluten which can be very difficult for many to digest so not surprised. Have you tried one that is just from soy? Or have you tried soy period? It might be easier on your digestive system. linda " Whatever you do will be insignificant and it is very important that you do it. " Mohandas Gandhi linda's Growing Stitchery Projects: womyn47 - Wyldrose Sunday, November 27, 2005 6:40 PM Re: QOTW: Nov. 27th- Dec.3rd I am not total vegitarian but working my way that direction....Mine was that I had a gastric by-pass and still am having GREAT difficulty digesting meat. I can do most sea foods and dairy but have lots of difficulty with almost everyting else. Another big push was/is the Mad Cow disease and the fact that I do not want my daughter to get it from beef. We are both slowly moving more and more closer to being total vegitarians. (she eats a hamburger maybe once a month) My daughter and I had dressing and potatoes and gravy and pumpkin pudding yesterday. WE didn't miss the other at all. We both don't like most TSP and any of the artifical meat style products (I often find them as difficult to digest as the real stuff ) I am interested in the grinder type vegtable loafs though....(hint hint) Haven't tried any but seeing chefs make them on TV makes me soooo courious Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 28, 2005 Report Share Posted November 28, 2005 Well I grew up on a cattle ranch in Montana. Saw & heard way more than I could deal with. I think one of the strongest memories was playing with the baby rabbits and then being informed by my jack ass of a step father that is what we were eating for dinner one evening. Never played with the rabbits again. Samantha On Behalf Of ~ PT ~ Sunday, November 27, 2005 11:09 AM QOTW: Nov. 27th- Dec.3rd Here is this week's group question: Why did you choose a vegetarian diet and if applicable what was the isolated incident that prompted the change? _____ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 29, 2005 Report Share Posted November 29, 2005 > Why did you choose a vegetarian diet and if > applicable what was the isolated incident that > prompted the change? Just one day in college I was in the cafeteria line looking at the lunch choices.... and I realized that I couldn't go out and kill a cow, so I shouldn't be passing off the " dirty work " and making someone else do it for me... so I quit eating meat right then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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