Do you become vegetarian overnight or taper off ??...

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In a message dated 9/16/06 7:15:30 PM Eastern Daylight Time,

mermaidfingers writes:

 

> There was no parttime vegin' for me.

>

 

I guess if you're doing it for health reason as opposed to ethical reasons

it's easier to be a part timer. In that respect, I can understand tapering off.

On the other hand, you can't love cows today and have a burger tomorrow.

Makes no sense. You either do or you don't. For me it's just black and white

with no shades of gray.

 

TM

 

 

 

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In a message dated 9/16/06 9:21:17 PM Eastern Daylight Time,

sammything writes:

 

> I also have to consider my family

 

I can understand where having a family to consider would be a

challenge....today it's T-Bones and burgers guys and tomorrow it's Kale. Say

wha?

 

My overnight decision was made when one child was already out of the house

and the other would eat what I ate or cook whatever she chose so it was not a

problem. As I said in previous post....you do what works best for you.

 

As an aside, I do wish that I had become enlightened prior to having children

but back in those days vegetarians were considered odd balls and were

practically unheard of (yes, I'm that old, LOL). I really believe that a

vegetarian diet is the way to maintain good health and I wish I had bestowed

that gift

upon my children. Maybe in my next life.

 

TM

 

 

 

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In a message dated 9/17/06 2:04:06 PM Eastern Daylight Time,

debjreed writes:

 

> Nurses in the pulmonary intensive care

> still went out for smoke breaks. I just didn't get

> it.

>

>

 

I work in the substance abuse field and it's a proven fact that nicotine is

the hardest substance to give up. Even more difficult than heroin. Many of my

co-workers are in recovery and every single one of them has said that it was

easier to stop drinking/drugging than to stop smoking. Many still do smoke as

do about 95% of our clients. I've talked to people who have been smoke free

for years and most say they still miss it and could pick it up again tomorrow.

Some nurses smoke, some are extremely obese....an addiction is an addiction.

 

TM

 

 

 

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In a message dated 9/17/2006 10:01:03 AM Pacific Standard Time,

mcdaub writes:

 

 

> Heck, the same thing happens at the hospitals where they think vegetarian

> meals includes meats!!! And I have seen this happen. The dietitians do not

>

> know what vegetarian or vegan meals are. I know when I was in the hospital

> and on a celiac diet that they served me puffed wheat and I went off because

>

> the dietitian would not meet with me and assured me that I would receive

> only a celiac diet.

>

 

This reminds me of when I was in hospital and told them I was vegetarian.

For breakfast they served me a slice of ham that partially covered up scrambled

eggs. For lunch they served me a poached chicken breast that was leaking all

over the veggies and slimey mashed potatoes. I was in hosptial for nearly 3

weeks and I finally started sending every tray back that had any meat on it.

I lost so much weight while in hospital they told me that my vegetarian diet

would kill me. I went from a whopping 98 down to about 82 pounds. I was back

up to 96 within two weeks of getting out of the hospital and was feeling so

much better.

 

In the medical nutrition books I have found a small section of one chapter

devoted to vegetarian diet. The rest of the book (99.9%) addressing the rest of

the " average " diet needs. I am sure that more than 99.9% of the population

are vegetarian or vegan. We just need to start being much more vocal and

demanding better diets when in hospital. Even at Denny's I have requested that

my

Garden Burger be toasted on light setting rather than fried on the same grill

where they cook the pork. If they don't toast it and insist on frying it I

tell them to please use a pan to fry it in. Most of the fry pans are used for

eggs and I do eat them.

 

I have a friend that is a kosher organic vegetarian. Now she has a problem

trying to get what she considers proper food anywhere unless she is at home and

in full control of her food.

 

I am not a vegetarian for ethical reasons -- I am one because I do not like

the way meat tastes. I simply do not like meat and even when I ate it I didn't

really like it and would prefer to eat nonmeat foods. Never could understand

why vegetarian foods try to mimic meat. Non meat foods are good in thier own

right not as a 'replacement' for meat. I beleave that meat was a

'replacement' for real food.

 

Lisa Marie

sliding off soap box now.

 

 

 

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Thankfully I didnt have a hard time when i quit smoking, although when im very

stressed i still crave a cigarette, even 7 years after quitting.

that said, i have a good friend who a few weeks after quitting found a lighter

in a pocket, and burst into tears. she said she felt like she had lost a best

friend...

 

 

TendrMoon wrote:

In a message dated 9/17/06 2:04:06 PM Eastern Daylight Time,

debjreed writes:

 

> Nurses in the pulmonary intensive care

> still went out for smoke breaks. I just didn't get

> it.

>

>

 

I work in the substance abuse field and it's a proven fact that nicotine is

the hardest substance to give up. Even more difficult than heroin. Many of my

co-workers are in recovery and every single one of them has said that it was

easier to stop drinking/drugging than to stop smoking. Many still do smoke as

do about 95% of our clients. I've talked to people who have been smoke free

for years and most say they still miss it and could pick it up again tomorrow.

Some nurses smoke, some are extremely obese....an addiction is an addiction.

 

TM