off topic rant about vegetarians or lack thereof

[Guest guest]

I agree, Amy. There can and will always be something with everything. I'm

not sure there is a perfect solution, however as I've stated in the past, we

all do what we can....or what we choose to do. I think any effort is a

positive thing.

 

There probably isn't such a thing as a perfectly practicing vegan. I'd be

willing to bet there are animal products in things we aren't even aware of.

Unfortunately there aren't ingredients listings on houses, cars, streets,

computers, etc..

 

That being said, I understand the frustrations with specific lables. I,

personally, don't really have a problem but I can understand where you are

coming from Mel as I've seen many with the same frustrations. Which, by the

way, this is a perfectly ON-topic conversation for the forum. I, too, hope

you are feeling better today or as soonest as possible. Take care, Mel.

 

Shawn

 

 

 

 

 

On 3/15/06, Amy <> wrote:

>

> > BUT DON'T SAY YOU ARE VEGETARIAN IF YOU EAT THINGS THAT ARE DEAD!!

> > Are you with me? Sorry for being so pissy. I am grumpy and tired but

> > can't sleep cause my tummy hurts. I forgot to take my endo herbs

> > today. Call it semi PMS.

>

> Some might say that the plants & veggies you eat are dead, if you want

> really want to argue semantics, so don't paint with such a broad

> brush. In any case, I'm sorry you're feeling poorly, and hope you

> feel better soon!

>

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

Keep up your vegetarian efforts, pen! You are in that beginning stage (or

so it sounds) where you have to describe, teach and sometimes convince your

new diet path. By now you probably feel like a broken record trying to

repeat it all of the time. LOL.

 

I guess if you wanted a more proper term, you could use " flexitarian " (this

small bit from about.com)...

 

----

 

*Question:* What is a Flexitarian?

*Answer: *Part-time Vegetarian

 

* A Flexitarian (part-time vegetarian) is someone who eats a primarily

healthy diet that consists of limited amounts of meat and more vegetables.

 

**----

 

*Keep up the efforts, pen, and let us know if you need any tips or help in

the process to achieve your goal.

 

Shawn*

*

On 3/15/06, pen <> wrote:

>

> I guess that I am one of those idiots.... I have been trying to go

> vegetarian for over a year and have been unsuccesful. (I have found it

> extremely hard to do). But I have told everyone; family, friends etc

> that I am vegetarian because of lack of a better description of what I

> am trying to do. I didn't want to go into the philosophy of trying to

> explain that I am leaning towards the vegetarian lifestyle but that I

> haven't yet reach my goal.

>

> I get strange enough looks when I mention I'm a vegetarian, I can only

> imagine the looks and comments I'll get when I say I am a vegetarian

> that is failing miserably when eating outside of my own kitchen. If I

> happen to go out to eat I will get questions that I usually say things

> like I choose vegetarian meals from the menu when possible. But when I

> get tired of ordering the iceburg lettuce salad that most resturants

> serve I explain that I'll order fish.... That will either open up a

> great discussion or change the topic. If they are interested I'll

> explain about all the hidden meat products in foods.

>

> We live in a small town and the only choices here for vegetarians are

> iceburg salads or those horrible frozen veggie burger sandwiches.....

> yuck.

> Even the cooked vegetables around here they use meat broth, bits of

> ham etc.... And when I go to someones home for dinner I'll say I'l

> have an extra helping of what vegetable, fruit or salad they are

> offering and if I have found that the offerings are very limited and

> the hostess looks tense I'll will take some of the meat offered. This

> usually lightens the mood and the next time I'm over for dinner they

> will have extra servings of more vegetables.

>

> So I guess I'll have to start a new term I'm not an in your face type

> of vegetarian. That is meant with a heart full of joy and humour.

>

> Still struggling and still trying to learn.

> pen

>

>

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

I'm a flexitarian, I'm a flexitarian.... I LOVE THAT!

Makes me feel like I completed one goal and have

started another goal of becoming a vegetarian.....

Yes! Positive thinking.... Always good for the soul.

Thanks for sharing a new term.

 

--- subprong <subprong wrote:

 

 

> I guess if you wanted a more proper term, you could

> use " flexitarian "

>

> *Question:* What is a Flexitarian?

> *Answer: *Part-time Vegetarian

>

> * A Flexitarian (part-time vegetarian) is someone

> who eats a primarily

> healthy diet that consists of limited amounts of

> meat and more vegetables.

>

 

http://bibliophil.org/ name pen912

 

 

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

I didn't mean to sound as mean as I did.

The conversation went like this:

Her: Oh I am a vegetarian too!

Me: I'm actually vegan which means I don't eat dairy

or eggs either

Her: Yeah (pulls out the Starburst)

Me: Uhm...you know, you may not have looked but those

have gelatin in them...

Her: Huh?

Me: Gelatin...it's made from boiling animal tissue

Her: Oh...i didn't know that!

we continue talking and she is talking about some

sandwich she is going to get and it's a chicken

sandwich...

Her: Chickens and fish aren't animals

Me: Okay....so what are they?

Her: Well since Chickens don't have babies and Fish

are cold blooded they aren't animals...

Me: so then what do you classify them as?

Her: ...Chicken and Fish

 

I only remember those parts of the convo and not what

all led up to it. I wasn't really as angry as I

thought I was...I was just upset and grumpy

anyhow...to me it's just frustrating at the lack of

education in this world. I will never understand why

people think a fish is not an animal...

if you eat fish...FINE! but please don't make life

hard for those of us that do not. Prime example. When

I was still ovo-lacto veggie I told someone " I don't

eat any meat or meat by-products " " Oh so you are a

vegetarian " " Yes "

They proceeded to offer me a tuna salad sandwich...

" Oh but my cousin is a vegetarian and she can eat

tuna "

 

Its even more fun when they just don't mention " Hey

that's made with beef stock " because they live with

the impression that as long as chunks of meat aren't

floating in it, it's ok.

Especially since it makes my stomach hurt.

 

I was laughing at my friend today...she is more

literal than me. To her, Eggs are not accepable and

she went off on some girl who tried to feed her made

with eggs AFTER she said " I don't eat eggs "

 

Blissfully happy people who do not know what is going

in thier bodies...sometimes I wish I could live life

that simple and oblivious. It sure would make it

easier

 

--- subprong <subprong wrote:

 

> I agree, Amy. There can and will always be

> something with everything. I'm

> not sure there is a perfect solution, however as

> I've stated in the past, we

> all do what we can....or what we choose to do. I

> think any effort is a

> positive thing.

>

> There probably isn't such a thing as a perfectly

> practicing vegan. I'd be

> willing to bet there are animal products in things

> we aren't even aware of.

> Unfortunately there aren't ingredients listings on

> houses, cars, streets,

> computers, etc..

>

> That being said, I understand the frustrations with

> specific lables. I,

> personally, don't really have a problem but I can

> understand where you are

> coming from Mel as I've seen many with the same

> frustrations. Which, by the

> way, this is a perfectly ON-topic conversation for

> the forum. I, too, hope

> you are feeling better today or as soonest as

> possible. Take care, Mel.

>

> Shawn