Guest guest Posted September 15, 2006 Report Share Posted September 15, 2006 I use bagged salads, they stay fresh and crisp for a good week unopened, I believe the packaging is safe. The bacteria was on the vegetable, it's not due to the package. I also see plenty of things spoil that has been stored in glass containers. I use Rubbermaid and I make sure it's wwashed thoroghly and I also was my packaged salads before I used them. , " jandor9 " <jandor9 wrote: > > The E coli, Hepatitis A, whatever is already ON the produce or IN the > produce BEFORE it ever gets near plastic bags, wrap, whatever. Even if > you put them in a sealed glass jar the produce would still be > contaminated. It's not the fact that it's in sealed plastic either. If > bagged produce is kept properly in a refrigerated enviroment,it > actually retards spoilage and bacterial growth. That's why those bags > of cut washed greens are, unopened, good for at least a week if kept > cold. Throw a couple of lettuce leaves on a shelf of your fridge for a > couple of days. I don't think you would eat them. Bacteria and viruses > need warmth and moisture to thrive. Like inside our bodies. > > > Janis > > , Cheryl <starborn59@> wrote: > > > > But bacteria grows inside sealed containers, espec. > > plastic > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 15, 2006 Report Share Posted September 15, 2006 Anything will spoil eventually with oxygen and moisture available, even in the fridge, just slower. But that is not E. coli or Hepatitis A. doing the damage. The molds and bacteria are picked up from the environment and are always on the fruits, greens, etc, and as the colony grows, spoilage occurs/worsens. One thing that will help a little is to wash produce as soon as you get it home. That way it isn't carrying all the bacteria and the molds it picked up in the grocery store from other rotting fruit and veggies near it during shipping or in the store. Janis Where do I get this stuff? Bio-sciences major in school, and I worked in a fruit & vegetable store for years as a teen-it was like living in a science experiment!! , " jeweled_hookah " <jeweled_hookah wrote: > > > I use bagged salads, they stay fresh and crisp for a good week > unopened, I believe the packaging is safe. The bacteria was on the > vegetable, it's not due to the package. I also see plenty of things > spoil that has been stored in glass containers. I use Rubbermaid and > I make sure it's wwashed thoroghly and I also was my packaged salads > before I used them. > , " jandor9 " <jandor9@> > wrote: > > > > The E coli, Hepatitis A, whatever is already ON the produce or IN > the > > produce BEFORE it ever gets near plastic bags, wrap, whatever. Even > if > > you put them in a sealed glass jar the produce would still be > > contaminated. It's not the fact that it's in sealed plastic either. > If > > bagged produce is kept properly in a refrigerated enviroment,it > > actually retards spoilage and bacterial growth. That's why those > bags > > of cut washed greens are, unopened, good for at least a week if > kept > > cold. Throw a couple of lettuce leaves on a shelf of your fridge > for a > > couple of days. I don't think you would eat them. Bacteria and > viruses > > need warmth and moisture to thrive. Like inside our bodies. > > > > > > Janis > > > > , Cheryl <starborn59@> wrote: > > > > > > But bacteria grows inside sealed containers, espec. > > > plastic > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 15, 2006 Report Share Posted September 15, 2006 I thought washing stuff like strawberries, etc caused them to mold faster? Just what I've heard. Interesting! Thanks for the info. ) Rachel ~ http://www.thelucastribe.com ~ KUSTOMIZED KIDS ~ http://www.cafepress.com/kustomizedkids Children's/Pregnancy/Natural Parenting/Personalized Clothing Designs HALLOWEEN DESIGNS ARE UP! Anything will spoil eventually with oxygen and moisture available, even in the fridge, just slower. But that is not E. coli or Hepatitis A. doing the damage. The molds and bacteria are picked up from the environment and are always on the fruits, greens, etc, and as the colony grows, spoilage occurs/worsens. One thing that will help a little is to wash produce as soon as you get it home. That way it isn't carrying all the bacteria and the molds it picked up in the grocery store from other rotting fruit and veggies near it during shipping or in the store. Janis Where do I get this stuff? Bio-sciences major in school, and I worked in a fruit & vegetable store for years as a teen-it was like living in a science experiment!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 15, 2006 Report Share Posted September 15, 2006 They are now up to 20 states that have E. Coli problems from what they are supposing is the packaged spinach and other greens. There is a new article on www.cnn.com Marilyn Daub mcdaub Vanceburg, KY My Cats Knead Me!! - Rachel Lucas Friday, September 15, 2006 4:49 PM Re: Re: Plastic packaging and Caution with spinach Janis I thought washing stuff like strawberries, etc caused them to mold faster? Just what I've heard. Interesting! Thanks for the info. ) Rachel ~ http://www.thelucastribe.com ~ KUSTOMIZED KIDS ~ http://www.cafepress.com/kustomizedkids Children's/Pregnancy/Natural Parenting/Personalized Clothing Designs HALLOWEEN DESIGNS ARE UP! Anything will spoil eventually with oxygen and moisture available, even in the fridge, just slower. But that is not E. coli or Hepatitis A. doing the damage. The molds and bacteria are picked up from the environment and are always on the fruits, greens, etc, and as the colony grows, spoilage occurs/worsens. One thing that will help a little is to wash produce as soon as you get it home. That way it isn't carrying all the bacteria and the molds it picked up in the grocery store from other rotting fruit and veggies near it during shipping or in the store. Janis Where do I get this stuff? Bio-sciences major in school, and I worked in a fruit & vegetable store for years as a teen-it was like living in a science experiment!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 15, 2006 Report Share Posted September 15, 2006 Now I heard the Food and Drug Administration said that the E. coli outbreak had been linked to bagged spinach products distributed by Natural Selection Foods, based in San Juan Bautista, California. On the news they mentioned that they suspect the water used to wash the spinach was contaminated. How ironic, not to mention disgusting is that???? Janis , " Marilyn Daub " <mcdaub wrote: > > They are now up to 20 states that have E. Coli problems from what they are > supposing is the packaged spinach and other greens. There is a new article > on www.cnn.com > > Marilyn Daub > mcdaub > Vanceburg, KY > My Cats Knead Me!! > - > Rachel Lucas > > Friday, September 15, 2006 4:49 PM > Re: Re: Plastic packaging and Caution with > spinach Janis > > > I thought washing stuff like strawberries, etc caused them to mold faster? > Just what I've heard. Interesting! Thanks for the info. > > > ) Rachel ~ http://www.thelucastribe.com > > ~ KUSTOMIZED KIDS ~ http://www.cafepress.com/kustomizedkids > Children's/Pregnancy/Natural Parenting/Personalized Clothing Designs > HALLOWEEN DESIGNS ARE UP! > > > > > > Anything will spoil eventually with oxygen and moisture available, > even in the fridge, just slower. But that is not E. coli or Hepatitis > A. doing the damage. The molds and bacteria are picked up from the > environment and are always on the fruits, greens, etc, and as the > colony grows, spoilage occurs/worsens. One thing that will help a > little is to wash produce as soon as you get it home. That way it > isn't carrying all the bacteria and the molds it picked up in the > grocery store from other rotting fruit and veggies near it during > shipping or in the store. > > Janis > Where do I get this stuff? Bio-sciences major in school, and I worked > in a fruit & vegetable store for years as a teen-it was like living > in a science experiment!! > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 15, 2006 Report Share Posted September 15, 2006 I was watching CNN and the anchor held up the plastic bag of spinach, actually two or three bags, and said *DO NOT eat this until further notice* So until they say any fresh spinach is safe, I am only using the frozen kind. Sheyen , " jeweled_hookah " <jeweled_hookah wrote: > > > I use bagged salads, they stay fresh and crisp for a good week > unopened, I believe the packaging is safe. The bacteria was on the > vegetable, it's not due to the package. I also see plenty of things > spoil that has been stored in glass containers. I use Rubbermaid and > I make sure it's wwashed thoroghly and I also was my packaged salads > before I used them. > , " jandor9 " <jandor9@> > wrote: > > > > The E coli, Hepatitis A, whatever is already ON the produce or IN > the > > produce BEFORE it ever gets near plastic bags, wrap, whatever. Even > if > > you put them in a sealed glass jar the produce would still be > > contaminated. It's not the fact that it's in sealed plastic either. > If > > bagged produce is kept properly in a refrigerated enviroment,it > > actually retards spoilage and bacterial growth. That's why those > bags > > of cut washed greens are, unopened, good for at least a week if > kept > > cold. Throw a couple of lettuce leaves on a shelf of your fridge > for a > > couple of days. I don't think you would eat them. Bacteria and > viruses > > need warmth and moisture to thrive. Like inside our bodies. > > > > > > Janis > > > > , Cheryl <starborn59@> wrote: > > > > > > But bacteria grows inside sealed containers, espec. > > > plastic > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 15, 2006 Report Share Posted September 15, 2006 Janis, where did you hear this, do you have a link? Thanks! ) Rachel ~ http://www.thelucastribe.com ~ KUSTOMIZED KIDS ~ http://www.cafepress.com/kustomizedkids Children's/Pregnancy/Natural Parenting/Personalized Clothing Designs HALLOWEEN DESIGNS ARE UP! - jandor9 Friday, September 15, 2006 7:53 PM Re: Plastic packaging and Caution with spinach Janis Now I heard the Food and Drug Administration said that the E. coli outbreak had been linked to bagged spinach products distributed by Natural Selection Foods, based in San Juan Bautista, California. On the news they mentioned that they suspect the water used to wash the spinach was contaminated. How ironic, not to mention disgusting is that???? Janis , " Marilyn Daub " <mcdaub wrote: > > They are now up to 20 states that have E. Coli problems from what they are > supposing is the packaged spinach and other greens. There is a new article > on www.cnn.com > > Marilyn Daub > mcdaub > Vanceburg, KY > My Cats Knead Me!! > - > Rachel Lucas > > Friday, September 15, 2006 4:49 PM > Re: Re: Plastic packaging and Caution with > spinach Janis > > > I thought washing stuff like strawberries, etc caused them to mold faster? > Just what I've heard. Interesting! Thanks for the info. > > > ) Rachel ~ http://www.thelucastribe.com > > ~ KUSTOMIZED KIDS ~ http://www.cafepress.com/kustomizedkids > Children's/Pregnancy/Natural Parenting/Personalized Clothing Designs > HALLOWEEN DESIGNS ARE UP! > > > > > > Anything will spoil eventually with oxygen and moisture available, > even in the fridge, just slower. But that is not E. coli or Hepatitis > A. doing the damage. The molds and bacteria are picked up from the > environment and are always on the fruits, greens, etc, and as the > colony grows, spoilage occurs/worsens. One thing that will help a > little is to wash produce as soon as you get it home. That way it > isn't carrying all the bacteria and the molds it picked up in the > grocery store from other rotting fruit and veggies near it during > shipping or in the store. > > Janis > Where do I get this stuff? Bio-sciences major in school, and I worked > in a fruit & vegetable store for years as a teen-it was like living > in a science experiment!! > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 15, 2006 Report Share Posted September 15, 2006 Sorry, it was on the TV news. Check this out from MSNBC: " FDA officials stressed that the bacteria had not been isolated in products sold by Natural Selection Foods but that the link was established by patient accounts of what they had eaten before becoming ill. An investigation was continuing. " It is possible that the recall and the information will extend beyond Natural Selection Foods and involve other brands and other companies, at other dates, " said Dr. David Acheson, the chief medical officer with the FDA's Center for Food Safety and Applied Nutrition. Natural Selection Foods LLC said in a statement that it was cooperating with federal and state health officials to identify the source of the contamination and had stopped shipping all fresh spinach products. They are sold as Rave Spinach, Natural Selection Foods, Dole, Earthbound Farm, Trader Joe's, Ready Pac, Green Harvest, among other brand names. (Washington)State health officials received the first reports of illness on Aug. 25, and the FDA was informed on Wednesday. " Yesterday???? I was buying Dole Spinach a few days ago for Tamara's Spinach/Potato cassarole but bought frozen because it was on sale. I am so glad. Janis , " Rachel Lucas " <mommytogavin wrote: > > Janis, where did you hear this, do you have a link? Thanks! > > > ) Rachel ~ http://www.thelucastribe.com > > ~ KUSTOMIZED KIDS ~ http://www.cafepress.com/kustomizedkids > Children's/Pregnancy/Natural Parenting/Personalized Clothing Designs > HALLOWEEN DESIGNS ARE UP! > > > - > jandor9 > > Friday, September 15, 2006 7:53 PM > Re: Plastic packaging and Caution with spinach Janis > > > Now I heard the Food and Drug Administration said that the E. coli > outbreak had been linked to bagged spinach products distributed by > Natural Selection Foods, based in San Juan Bautista, California. On > the news they mentioned that they suspect the water used to wash the > spinach was contaminated. How ironic, not to mention disgusting is > that???? > > Janis > > , " Marilyn Daub " <mcdaub@> > wrote: > > > > They are now up to 20 states that have E. Coli problems from what > they are > > supposing is the packaged spinach and other greens. There is a new > article > > on www.cnn.com > > > > Marilyn Daub > > mcdaub@ > > Vanceburg, KY > > My Cats Knead Me!! > > - > > Rachel Lucas > > > > Friday, September 15, 2006 4:49 PM > > Re: Re: Plastic packaging and Caution > with > > spinach Janis > > > > > > I thought washing stuff like strawberries, etc caused them to > mold faster? > > Just what I've heard. Interesting! Thanks for the info. > > > > > > ) Rachel ~ http://www.thelucastribe.com > > > > ~ KUSTOMIZED KIDS ~ http://www.cafepress.com/kustomizedkids > > Children's/Pregnancy/Natural Parenting/Personalized Clothing > Designs > > HALLOWEEN DESIGNS ARE UP! > > > > > > > > > > > > Anything will spoil eventually with oxygen and moisture > available, > > even in the fridge, just slower. But that is not E. coli or > Hepatitis > > A. doing the damage. The molds and bacteria are picked up from > the > > environment and are always on the fruits, greens, etc, and as > the > > colony grows, spoilage occurs/worsens. One thing that will help > a > > little is to wash produce as soon as you get it home. That way > it > > isn't carrying all the bacteria and the molds it picked up in > the > > grocery store from other rotting fruit and veggies near it > during > > shipping or in the store. > > > > Janis > > Where do I get this stuff? Bio-sciences major in school, and I > worked > > in a fruit & vegetable store for years as a teen-it was like > living > > in a science experiment!! > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 16, 2006 Report Share Posted September 16, 2006 Just goes to show you how well they " wash " your produce, I guess. Debbie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 16, 2006 Report Share Posted September 16, 2006 I take care of making all the salads at the school and walked in on Friday and pitched everything we had. Debbie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 16, 2006 Report Share Posted September 16, 2006 I bought the Publix brand, and we ate it, but I can't find who makes the Publix Store Brand. Does anyone know how to find this out? ) Rachel ~ http://www.thelucastribe.com ~ KUSTOMIZED KIDS ~ http://www.cafepress.com/kustomizedkids Children's/Pregnancy/Natural Parenting/Personalized Clothing Designs HALLOWEEN DESIGNS ARE UP! - jandor9 Friday, September 15, 2006 10:20 PM Re: Plastic packaging and Caution with spinach Janis Sorry, it was on the TV news. Check this out from MSNBC: " FDA officials stressed that the bacteria had not been isolated in products sold by Natural Selection Foods but that the link was established by patient accounts of what they had eaten before becoming ill. An investigation was continuing. " It is possible that the recall and the information will extend beyond Natural Selection Foods and involve other brands and other companies, at other dates, " said Dr. David Acheson, the chief medical officer with the FDA's Center for Food Safety and Applied Nutrition. Natural Selection Foods LLC said in a statement that it was cooperating with federal and state health officials to identify the source of the contamination and had stopped shipping all fresh spinach products. They are sold as Rave Spinach, Natural Selection Foods, Dole, Earthbound Farm, Trader Joe's, Ready Pac, Green Harvest, among other brand names. (Washington)State health officials received the first reports of illness on Aug. 25, and the FDA was informed on Wednesday. " Yesterday???? I was buying Dole Spinach a few days ago for Tamara's Spinach/Potato cassarole but bought frozen because it was on sale. I am so glad. Janis , " Rachel Lucas " <mommytogavin wrote: > > Janis, where did you hear this, do you have a link? Thanks! > > > ) Rachel ~ http://www.thelucastribe.com > > ~ KUSTOMIZED KIDS ~ http://www.cafepress.com/kustomizedkids > Children's/Pregnancy/Natural Parenting/Personalized Clothing Designs > HALLOWEEN DESIGNS ARE UP! > > > - > jandor9 > > Friday, September 15, 2006 7:53 PM > Re: Plastic packaging and Caution with spinach Janis > > > Now I heard the Food and Drug Administration said that the E. coli > outbreak had been linked to bagged spinach products distributed by > Natural Selection Foods, based in San Juan Bautista, California. On > the news they mentioned that they suspect the water used to wash the > spinach was contaminated. How ironic, not to mention disgusting is > that???? > > Janis > > , " Marilyn Daub " <mcdaub@> > wrote: > > > > They are now up to 20 states that have E. Coli problems from what > they are > > supposing is the packaged spinach and other greens. There is a new > article > > on www.cnn.com > > > > Marilyn Daub > > mcdaub@ > > Vanceburg, KY > > My Cats Knead Me!! > > - > > Rachel Lucas > > > > Friday, September 15, 2006 4:49 PM > > Re: Re: Plastic packaging and Caution > with > > spinach Janis > > > > > > I thought washing stuff like strawberries, etc caused them to > mold faster? > > Just what I've heard. Interesting! Thanks for the info. > > > > > > ) Rachel ~ http://www.thelucastribe.com > > > > ~ KUSTOMIZED KIDS ~ http://www.cafepress.com/kustomizedkids > > Children's/Pregnancy/Natural Parenting/Personalized Clothing > Designs > > HALLOWEEN DESIGNS ARE UP! > > > > > > > > > > > > Anything will spoil eventually with oxygen and moisture > available, > > even in the fridge, just slower. But that is not E. coli or > Hepatitis > > A. doing the damage. The molds and bacteria are picked up from > the > > environment and are always on the fruits, greens, etc, and as > the > > colony grows, spoilage occurs/worsens. One thing that will help > a > > little is to wash produce as soon as you get it home. That way > it > > isn't carrying all the bacteria and the molds it picked up in > the > > grocery store from other rotting fruit and veggies near it > during > > shipping or in the store. > > > > Janis > > Where do I get this stuff? Bio-sciences major in school, and I > worked > > in a fruit & vegetable store for years as a teen-it was like > living > > in a science experiment!! > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 16, 2006 Report Share Posted September 16, 2006 I don't know, I'm just not that concerned. I buy bagged salads, eat them, and will continue to do so. Alia Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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