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I use bagged salads, they stay fresh and crisp for a good week

unopened, I believe the packaging is safe. The bacteria was on the

vegetable, it's not due to the package. I also see plenty of things

spoil that has been stored in glass containers. I use Rubbermaid and

I make sure it's wwashed thoroghly and I also was my packaged salads

before I used them.

, " jandor9 " <jandor9

wrote:

>

> The E coli, Hepatitis A, whatever is already ON the produce or IN

the

> produce BEFORE it ever gets near plastic bags, wrap, whatever. Even

if

> you put them in a sealed glass jar the produce would still be

> contaminated. It's not the fact that it's in sealed plastic either.

If

> bagged produce is kept properly in a refrigerated enviroment,it

> actually retards spoilage and bacterial growth. That's why those

bags

> of cut washed greens are, unopened, good for at least a week if

kept

> cold. Throw a couple of lettuce leaves on a shelf of your fridge

for a

> couple of days. I don't think you would eat them. Bacteria and

viruses

> need warmth and moisture to thrive. Like inside our bodies.

>

>

> Janis

>

> , Cheryl <starborn59@> wrote:

> >

> > But bacteria grows inside sealed containers, espec.

> > plastic

> >

>

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Anything will spoil eventually with oxygen and moisture available,

even in the fridge, just slower. But that is not E. coli or Hepatitis

A. doing the damage. The molds and bacteria are picked up from the

environment and are always on the fruits, greens, etc, and as the

colony grows, spoilage occurs/worsens. One thing that will help a

little is to wash produce as soon as you get it home. That way it

isn't carrying all the bacteria and the molds it picked up in the

grocery store from other rotting fruit and veggies near it during

shipping or in the store.

 

Janis

Where do I get this stuff? Bio-sciences major in school, and I worked

in a fruit & vegetable store for years as a teen-it was like living

in a science experiment!!

 

, " jeweled_hookah "

<jeweled_hookah wrote:

>

>

> I use bagged salads, they stay fresh and crisp for a good week

> unopened, I believe the packaging is safe. The bacteria was on the

> vegetable, it's not due to the package. I also see plenty of

things

> spoil that has been stored in glass containers. I use Rubbermaid

and

> I make sure it's wwashed thoroghly and I also was my packaged

salads

> before I used them.

> , " jandor9 " <jandor9@>

> wrote:

> >

> > The E coli, Hepatitis A, whatever is already ON the produce or IN

> the

> > produce BEFORE it ever gets near plastic bags, wrap, whatever.

Even

> if

> > you put them in a sealed glass jar the produce would still be

> > contaminated. It's not the fact that it's in sealed plastic

either.

> If

> > bagged produce is kept properly in a refrigerated enviroment,it

> > actually retards spoilage and bacterial growth. That's why those

> bags

> > of cut washed greens are, unopened, good for at least a week if

> kept

> > cold. Throw a couple of lettuce leaves on a shelf of your fridge

> for a

> > couple of days. I don't think you would eat them. Bacteria and

> viruses

> > need warmth and moisture to thrive. Like inside our bodies.

> >

> >

> > Janis

> >

> > , Cheryl <starborn59@>

wrote:

> > >

> > > But bacteria grows inside sealed containers, espec.

> > > plastic

> > >

> >

>

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I thought washing stuff like strawberries, etc caused them to mold faster? Just

what I've heard. Interesting! Thanks for the info.

 

 

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Anything will spoil eventually with oxygen and moisture available,

even in the fridge, just slower. But that is not E. coli or Hepatitis

A. doing the damage. The molds and bacteria are picked up from the

environment and are always on the fruits, greens, etc, and as the

colony grows, spoilage occurs/worsens. One thing that will help a

little is to wash produce as soon as you get it home. That way it

isn't carrying all the bacteria and the molds it picked up in the

grocery store from other rotting fruit and veggies near it during

shipping or in the store.

 

Janis

Where do I get this stuff? Bio-sciences major in school, and I worked

in a fruit & vegetable store for years as a teen-it was like living

in a science experiment!!

 

 

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They are now up to 20 states that have E. Coli problems from what they are

supposing is the packaged spinach and other greens. There is a new article

on www.cnn.com

 

Marilyn Daub

mcdaub

Vanceburg, KY

My Cats Knead Me!!

-

Rachel Lucas

Friday, September 15, 2006 4:49 PM

Re: Re: Plastic packaging and Caution with

spinach Janis

 

 

I thought washing stuff like strawberries, etc caused them to mold faster?

Just what I've heard. Interesting! Thanks for the info.

 

 

:o) Rachel ~ http://www.thelucastribe.com

 

~ KUSTOMIZED KIDS ~ http://www.cafepress.com/kustomizedkids

Children's/Pregnancy/Natural Parenting/Personalized Clothing Designs

HALLOWEEN DESIGNS ARE UP!

 

 

 

 

 

Anything will spoil eventually with oxygen and moisture available,

even in the fridge, just slower. But that is not E. coli or Hepatitis

A. doing the damage. The molds and bacteria are picked up from the

environment and are always on the fruits, greens, etc, and as the

colony grows, spoilage occurs/worsens. One thing that will help a

little is to wash produce as soon as you get it home. That way it

isn't carrying all the bacteria and the molds it picked up in the

grocery store from other rotting fruit and veggies near it during

shipping or in the store.

 

Janis

Where do I get this stuff? Bio-sciences major in school, and I worked

in a fruit & vegetable store for years as a teen-it was like living

in a science experiment!!

 

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Now I heard the Food and Drug Administration said that the E. coli

outbreak had been linked to bagged spinach products distributed by

Natural Selection Foods, based in San Juan Bautista, California. On

the news they mentioned that they suspect the water used to wash the

spinach was contaminated. How ironic, not to mention disgusting is

that????

 

Janis

 

, " Marilyn Daub " <mcdaub

wrote:

>

> They are now up to 20 states that have E. Coli problems from what

they are

> supposing is the packaged spinach and other greens. There is a new

article

> on www.cnn.com

>

> Marilyn Daub

> mcdaub

> Vanceburg, KY

> My Cats Knead Me!!

> -

> Rachel Lucas

>

> Friday, September 15, 2006 4:49 PM

> Re: Re: Plastic packaging and Caution

with

> spinach Janis

>

>

> I thought washing stuff like strawberries, etc caused them to

mold faster?

> Just what I've heard. Interesting! Thanks for the info.

>

>

> :o) Rachel ~ http://www.thelucastribe.com

>

> ~ KUSTOMIZED KIDS ~ http://www.cafepress.com/kustomizedkids

> Children's/Pregnancy/Natural Parenting/Personalized Clothing

Designs

> HALLOWEEN DESIGNS ARE UP!

>

>

>

>

>

> Anything will spoil eventually with oxygen and moisture

available,

> even in the fridge, just slower. But that is not E. coli or

Hepatitis

> A. doing the damage. The molds and bacteria are picked up from

the

> environment and are always on the fruits, greens, etc, and as

the

> colony grows, spoilage occurs/worsens. One thing that will help

a

> little is to wash produce as soon as you get it home. That way

it

> isn't carrying all the bacteria and the molds it picked up in

the

> grocery store from other rotting fruit and veggies near it

during

> shipping or in the store.

>

> Janis

> Where do I get this stuff? Bio-sciences major in school, and I

worked

> in a fruit & vegetable store for years as a teen-it was like

living

> in a science experiment!!

>

>

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I was watching CNN and the anchor held up the plastic bag of

spinach, actually two or three bags, and said *DO NOT eat this until

further notice* So until they say any fresh spinach is safe, I am

only using the frozen kind.

Sheyen

, " jeweled_hookah "

<jeweled_hookah wrote:

>

>

> I use bagged salads, they stay fresh and crisp for a good week

> unopened, I believe the packaging is safe. The bacteria was on

the

> vegetable, it's not due to the package. I also see plenty of

things

> spoil that has been stored in glass containers. I use Rubbermaid

and

> I make sure it's wwashed thoroghly and I also was my packaged

salads

> before I used them.

> , " jandor9 " <jandor9@>

> wrote:

> >

> > The E coli, Hepatitis A, whatever is already ON the produce or

IN

> the

> > produce BEFORE it ever gets near plastic bags, wrap, whatever.

Even

> if

> > you put them in a sealed glass jar the produce would still be

> > contaminated. It's not the fact that it's in sealed plastic

either.

> If

> > bagged produce is kept properly in a refrigerated enviroment,it

> > actually retards spoilage and bacterial growth. That's why those

> bags

> > of cut washed greens are, unopened, good for at least a week if

> kept

> > cold. Throw a couple of lettuce leaves on a shelf of your fridge

> for a

> > couple of days. I don't think you would eat them. Bacteria and

> viruses

> > need warmth and moisture to thrive. Like inside our bodies.

> >

> >

> > Janis

> >

> > , Cheryl <starborn59@>

wrote:

> > >

> > > But bacteria grows inside sealed containers, espec.

> > > plastic

> > >

> >

>

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Janis, where did you hear this, do you have a link? Thanks!

 

 

:o) Rachel ~ http://www.thelucastribe.com

 

~ KUSTOMIZED KIDS ~ http://www.cafepress.com/kustomizedkids

Children's/Pregnancy/Natural Parenting/Personalized Clothing Designs

HALLOWEEN DESIGNS ARE UP!

 

 

-

jandor9

Friday, September 15, 2006 7:53 PM

Re: Plastic packaging and Caution with spinach

Janis

 

 

Now I heard the Food and Drug Administration said that the E. coli

outbreak had been linked to bagged spinach products distributed by

Natural Selection Foods, based in San Juan Bautista, California. On

the news they mentioned that they suspect the water used to wash the

spinach was contaminated. How ironic, not to mention disgusting is

that????

 

Janis

 

, " Marilyn Daub " <mcdaub

wrote:

>

> They are now up to 20 states that have E. Coli problems from what

they are

> supposing is the packaged spinach and other greens. There is a new

article

> on www.cnn.com

>

> Marilyn Daub

> mcdaub

> Vanceburg, KY

> My Cats Knead Me!!

> -

> Rachel Lucas

>

> Friday, September 15, 2006 4:49 PM

> Re: Re: Plastic packaging and Caution

with

> spinach Janis

>

>

> I thought washing stuff like strawberries, etc caused them to

mold faster?

> Just what I've heard. Interesting! Thanks for the info.

>

>

> :o) Rachel ~ http://www.thelucastribe.com

>

> ~ KUSTOMIZED KIDS ~ http://www.cafepress.com/kustomizedkids

> Children's/Pregnancy/Natural Parenting/Personalized Clothing

Designs

> HALLOWEEN DESIGNS ARE UP!

>

>

>

>

>

> Anything will spoil eventually with oxygen and moisture

available,

> even in the fridge, just slower. But that is not E. coli or

Hepatitis

> A. doing the damage. The molds and bacteria are picked up from

the

> environment and are always on the fruits, greens, etc, and as

the

> colony grows, spoilage occurs/worsens. One thing that will help

a

> little is to wash produce as soon as you get it home. That way

it

> isn't carrying all the bacteria and the molds it picked up in

the

> grocery store from other rotting fruit and veggies near it

during

> shipping or in the store.

>

> Janis

> Where do I get this stuff? Bio-sciences major in school, and I

worked

> in a fruit & vegetable store for years as a teen-it was like

living

> in a science experiment!!

>

>

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Sorry, it was on the TV news. Check this out from MSNBC:

 

" FDA officials stressed that the bacteria had not been isolated in

products sold by Natural Selection Foods but that the link was

established by patient accounts of what they had eaten before

becoming ill. An investigation was continuing.

 

" It is possible that the recall and the information will extend

beyond Natural Selection Foods and involve other brands and other

companies, at other dates, " said Dr. David Acheson, the chief medical

officer with the FDA's Center for Food Safety and Applied Nutrition.

 

Natural Selection Foods LLC said in a statement that it was

cooperating with federal and state health officials to identify the

source of the contamination and had stopped shipping all fresh

spinach products. They are sold as Rave Spinach, Natural Selection

Foods, Dole, Earthbound Farm, Trader Joe's, Ready Pac, Green Harvest,

among other brand names.

(Washington)State health officials received the first reports of

illness on Aug. 25, and the FDA was informed on Wednesday. "

 

Yesterday????

 

I was buying Dole Spinach a few days ago for Tamara's Spinach/Potato

cassarole but bought frozen because it was on sale. I am so glad.

 

 

Janis

 

 

, " Rachel Lucas "

<mommytogavin wrote:

>

> Janis, where did you hear this, do you have a link? Thanks!

>

>

> :o) Rachel ~ http://www.thelucastribe.com

>

> ~ KUSTOMIZED KIDS ~ http://www.cafepress.com/kustomizedkids

> Children's/Pregnancy/Natural Parenting/Personalized Clothing

Designs

> HALLOWEEN DESIGNS ARE UP!

>

>

> -

> jandor9

>

> Friday, September 15, 2006 7:53 PM

> Re: Plastic packaging and Caution

with spinach Janis

>

>

> Now I heard the Food and Drug Administration said that the E.

coli

> outbreak had been linked to bagged spinach products distributed

by

> Natural Selection Foods, based in San Juan Bautista, California.

On

> the news they mentioned that they suspect the water used to wash

the

> spinach was contaminated. How ironic, not to mention disgusting

is

> that????

>

> Janis

>

> , " Marilyn Daub " <mcdaub@>

> wrote:

> >

> > They are now up to 20 states that have E. Coli problems from

what

> they are

> > supposing is the packaged spinach and other greens. There is a

new

> article

> > on www.cnn.com

> >

> > Marilyn Daub

> > mcdaub@

> > Vanceburg, KY

> > My Cats Knead Me!!

> > -

> > Rachel Lucas

> >

> > Friday, September 15, 2006 4:49 PM

> > Re: Re: Plastic packaging and

Caution

> with

> > spinach Janis

> >

> >

> > I thought washing stuff like strawberries, etc caused them to

> mold faster?

> > Just what I've heard. Interesting! Thanks for the info.

> >

> >

> > :o) Rachel ~ http://www.thelucastribe.com

> >

> > ~ KUSTOMIZED KIDS ~ http://www.cafepress.com/kustomizedkids

> > Children's/Pregnancy/Natural Parenting/Personalized Clothing

> Designs

> > HALLOWEEN DESIGNS ARE UP!

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Anything will spoil eventually with oxygen and moisture

> available,

> > even in the fridge, just slower. But that is not E. coli or

> Hepatitis

> > A. doing the damage. The molds and bacteria are picked up

from

> the

> > environment and are always on the fruits, greens, etc, and

as

> the

> > colony grows, spoilage occurs/worsens. One thing that will

help

> a

> > little is to wash produce as soon as you get it home. That

way

> it

> > isn't carrying all the bacteria and the molds it picked up

in

> the

> > grocery store from other rotting fruit and veggies near it

> during

> > shipping or in the store.

> >

> > Janis

> > Where do I get this stuff? Bio-sciences major in school,

and I

> worked

> > in a fruit & vegetable store for years as a teen-it was

like

> living

> > in a science experiment!!

> >

> >

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I bought the Publix brand, and we ate it, but I can't find who makes the Publix

Store Brand. Does anyone know how to find this out?

 

 

:o) Rachel ~ http://www.thelucastribe.com

 

~ KUSTOMIZED KIDS ~ http://www.cafepress.com/kustomizedkids

Children's/Pregnancy/Natural Parenting/Personalized Clothing Designs

HALLOWEEN DESIGNS ARE UP!

 

 

-

jandor9

Friday, September 15, 2006 10:20 PM

Re: Plastic packaging and Caution with spinach

Janis

 

 

Sorry, it was on the TV news. Check this out from MSNBC:

 

" FDA officials stressed that the bacteria had not been isolated in

products sold by Natural Selection Foods but that the link was

established by patient accounts of what they had eaten before

becoming ill. An investigation was continuing.

 

" It is possible that the recall and the information will extend

beyond Natural Selection Foods and involve other brands and other

companies, at other dates, " said Dr. David Acheson, the chief medical

officer with the FDA's Center for Food Safety and Applied Nutrition.

 

Natural Selection Foods LLC said in a statement that it was

cooperating with federal and state health officials to identify the

source of the contamination and had stopped shipping all fresh

spinach products. They are sold as Rave Spinach, Natural Selection

Foods, Dole, Earthbound Farm, Trader Joe's, Ready Pac, Green Harvest,

among other brand names.

(Washington)State health officials received the first reports of

illness on Aug. 25, and the FDA was informed on Wednesday. "

 

Yesterday????

 

I was buying Dole Spinach a few days ago for Tamara's Spinach/Potato

cassarole but bought frozen because it was on sale. I am so glad.

 

 

Janis

 

 

, " Rachel Lucas "

<mommytogavin wrote:

>

> Janis, where did you hear this, do you have a link? Thanks!

>

>

> :o) Rachel ~ http://www.thelucastribe.com

>

> ~ KUSTOMIZED KIDS ~ http://www.cafepress.com/kustomizedkids

> Children's/Pregnancy/Natural Parenting/Personalized Clothing

Designs

> HALLOWEEN DESIGNS ARE UP!

>

>

> -

> jandor9

>

> Friday, September 15, 2006 7:53 PM

> Re: Plastic packaging and Caution

with spinach Janis

>

>

> Now I heard the Food and Drug Administration said that the E.

coli

> outbreak had been linked to bagged spinach products distributed

by

> Natural Selection Foods, based in San Juan Bautista, California.

On

> the news they mentioned that they suspect the water used to wash

the

> spinach was contaminated. How ironic, not to mention disgusting

is

> that????

>

> Janis

>

> , " Marilyn Daub " <mcdaub@>

> wrote:

> >

> > They are now up to 20 states that have E. Coli problems from

what

> they are

> > supposing is the packaged spinach and other greens. There is a

new

> article

> > on www.cnn.com

> >

> > Marilyn Daub

> > mcdaub@

> > Vanceburg, KY

> > My Cats Knead Me!!

> > -

> > Rachel Lucas

> >

> > Friday, September 15, 2006 4:49 PM

> > Re: Re: Plastic packaging and

Caution

> with

> > spinach Janis

> >

> >

> > I thought washing stuff like strawberries, etc caused them to

> mold faster?

> > Just what I've heard. Interesting! Thanks for the info.

> >

> >

> > :o) Rachel ~ http://www.thelucastribe.com

> >

> > ~ KUSTOMIZED KIDS ~ http://www.cafepress.com/kustomizedkids

> > Children's/Pregnancy/Natural Parenting/Personalized Clothing

> Designs

> > HALLOWEEN DESIGNS ARE UP!

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Anything will spoil eventually with oxygen and moisture

> available,

> > even in the fridge, just slower. But that is not E. coli or

> Hepatitis

> > A. doing the damage. The molds and bacteria are picked up

from

> the

> > environment and are always on the fruits, greens, etc, and

as

> the

> > colony grows, spoilage occurs/worsens. One thing that will

help

> a

> > little is to wash produce as soon as you get it home. That

way

> it

> > isn't carrying all the bacteria and the molds it picked up

in

> the

> > grocery store from other rotting fruit and veggies near it

> during

> > shipping or in the store.

> >

> > Janis

> > Where do I get this stuff? Bio-sciences major in school,

and I

> worked

> > in a fruit & vegetable store for years as a teen-it was

like

> living

> > in a science experiment!!

> >

> >

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