Vit D ~ SAD light therapy

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In a message dated 3/23/2006 2:57:00 PM Central Standard Time,

patchouli_troll writes:

 

He bought it at Costco after doing his own bit of research

on the web about SAD symptoms & treatments.

 

 

Since yall on this topic did you know that there is a reverse summer SAD

where some get as depressed because of summer months as some do of the winter or

too many cloudy days?

The reason why i know this is because I have it, the summer is brutal for me

as the winter is on many people.

 

 

 

I only brought this up for fyi, people think I am crazy when I bring it up

but it is very very real..

 

 

There is also a rare reverse form of SAD, known as summer SAD, where

symptoms occur each summer and remit in winter. _NOSAD Information on combating

Seasonal Depression_ (http://www.nosad.org/)

 

 

 

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In a message dated 3/23/2006 4:57:38 PM Central Standard Time,

lindai81 writes:

 

 

Oh, do you hang heavy curtains then around the house to dim the light to

counteract the depression? Is depression the only thing that is a tell tale

symptom...

 

 

I almost never ever leave out the front door during the summer, I live in

Texas and the summers here are just unbearable.

 

 

Is depression the only thing that is a tell tale

symptom...like carbs for SAD?

 

 

I do crave carbs big time during the summer and I get so lethargic. Cold

weather literally excites me, and I get a big thrill whenever I hear we are

getting snow, sleet or ice

 

There are

days in the summer when I crave a darker day where the clouds make one feel

cozy and tucked in, safer in some respect I suppose. I wonder if some of

both types is due to childhood experiences?

 

I keep the blinds closed unless it is cloudy outside, I cannot handle the

sun coming thru the blinds.

 

susie

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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In a message dated 3/23/2006 6:08:42 PM Central Standard Time,

lindai81 writes:

 

You would probably love it in Alaska then or

somewhere even further north.

 

 

LOL you have no idea how much I dream of moving to alaska, here is a link I

go to everyday.

 

 

_Alaska Webcams (Web Cams) List_ (http://www.akmining.com/webcams.htm)

 

 

Do you actually live in Alaska? If so too bad we cant just trade places.

 

but I also couldn't tolerate the heat.

 

The Texas heat is blistering to the point that it is really unsafe during

most of the summer.

We get about 6 shades of hot and they are all very intense, this year I am

really thinking it is going to be longer and hotter. I am a 3rd generation

Texans and I can pretty safely predict when it is going to be really really bad

and this is setting up to be really bad.

 

 

 

 

 

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Thanks! I'll look into it.

linda

" Whatever you do will be insignificant and it is very important that you do

it. "

Mohandas Gandhi

 

linda's Growing Stitchery Projects: womyn47

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" ~ PT ~ " <patchouli_troll

 

Thursday, March 23, 2006 12:54 PM

Re: Vit D ~ SAD light therapy

 

 

He bought it at Costco after doing his own bit of research

on the web about SAD symptoms & treatments.

It is the sort of unit you set on the table near you while

you work. He found a site online that had him take a quiz

to evaluate how many minutes a day and what time of day

he needed to do this to get his sleeping time back on track.

 

https://www.apollohealth.com/apps/circ_assess_survey.html

 

i'd give you more info about the unit except he lent it out

to a friend so he could try it and we don't have it back yet.

i bet you could find it on Costco's website; the unit cost about

$139.

 

~ pt ~

 

There are only four questions of value in life.

What is sacred?Ê Of what is the spirit made?

What is worth living for?Ê What is worth dying for?

The answer to each is the same.Ê Only love.

~ " Don Juan DeMarco "

~~~*~~~*~~~>

, " linda " <lindai81 wrote:

>

> Would you, could you, will you share what kind he got and the cost and

> where? How many lux's? And is it the kind he wears or sits in front of

or

> what?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

WOW! Never have heard of this. Maybe Alaska or other really northern places

it is less? I had never heard of SAD until I lived on Whidbey Island in the

80's at which time we took a bedroom, hung many, many fluorescent work

lights, the kind that you find in work shops, where there are 2 tubes, long

ones in each light fixture. I stayed in there all day long. Put a ton of

plants in there too and they grew like weeds. Supposed to be the wrong type

of lighting for SAD but it did work for me. Of course it didn't help with my

addiction to Top Ramen noodles which I ate constantly. But, anything was an

improvement over the way I felt. I am so sorry to hear that there is a

reverse of it too so that more people have a problem. Everyone tells me I

still cocoon in the winter and break out in the spring. When I travel to

sunnier places in the winter it disappears, but I love it here so will try

other ways of coping with it beside carbs. I am so glad you told us about

this reverse SAD. Wonder why we never hear of it on the television, the font

of all wisdom?

 

Oh, do you hang heavy curtains then around the house to dim the light to

counteract the depression? Is depression the only thing that is a tell tale

symptom...like carbs for SAD? I actually can see it happening. There are

days in the summer when I crave a darker day where the clouds make one feel

cozy and tucked in, safer in some respect I suppose. I wonder if some of

both types is due to childhood experiences?

linda

 

 

<zainypagan

>

> Since yall on this topic did you know that there is a reverse summer SAD

> where some get as depressed because of summer months as some do of the

winter or

> too many cloudy days?

> The reason why i know this is because I have it, the summer is brutal for

me

> as the winter is on many people.

>

> I only brought this up for fyi, people think I am crazy when I bring it

up

> but it is very very real..

>

> There is also a rare reverse form of SAD, known as summer SAD, where

> symptoms occur each summer and remit in winter. _NOSAD Information on

combating

> Seasonal Depression_ (http://www.nosad.org/)

[Guest guest]

Wow! Just exactly the same and yet the reverse. Yes, living in Texas has got

to be pretty awful for you. You would probably love it in Alaska then or

somewhere even further north. I wouldn't be able to live there although I

really want to, but then Texas and the southern states would have the sun

that I need, but I also couldn't tolerate the heat. I hope that you got some

relief this winter and good luck through the summer. I am really sorry! I

can empathize with you. One thing that is different is that getting out is

helpful for me...especially around the winter holidays as the stores always

crank on all of their lights as they know that customers will spend more

money that way and then they turn many of them off after the holidays. Kind

of sneaky of them wouldn't you say? But, I notice things like that so I

spend a lot of time at the mall in Nov-Dec to soak up the light even though

I don't do the holidays. LOL

linda

 

<zainypagan

>

> I almost never ever leave out the front door during the summer, I live in

> Texas and the summers here are just unbearable.

 

> I do crave carbs big time during the summer and I get so lethargic. Cold

> weather literally excites me, and I get a big thrill whenever I hear we

are

> getting snow, sleet or ice

>

> I keep the blinds closed unless it is cloudy outside, I cannot handle the

> sun coming thru the blinds.

[Guest guest]

Hi linda and Susie--I've been reading your posts about SAD and reverse

SAD. I find them very interesting as I live in Texas also, and can so

relate to the reverse SAD idea. My very favorite days here are when the

sky is overcast and it is comfortable to be outside...like in the 70's

and lower 80's. I'd call it " balmy. " Yet, there are days in the winter

when it has been gray for so long, and the temp outside is not freezing

by any means, but too cool to be outdoors--either that or cold and rainy,

that really do get depressing...just because it has dragged on so long.

 

Yes!!! in the summer, that bright light and heat can really be

oppressive. I find it very calming and relaxing to have the shades

pulled, or the blind slats turned up so light filters in but doesn't

shine down into the room. My brother taught me a trick about working

outside in the summer. If you know you're going to have to be outside a

good part of the day, then you need to get up very early, and get out

there in the cool of the morning, like at daybreak, and just stay outside

until you're done. It's not so bad then if you gradually get used to the

heat...just don't go into the air-conditioning and hang out, because it's

all over for the day then. And, the shade is your friend, also hats and

protective clothing. I know you know this, Susie! I am a fellow person

who loves the cold weather...and interestingly enough, I've had the same

thought that you had, about childhood experiences. I've wondered whether

the fact that I was born in January made me feel all warm and nurtured

when it was wintertime and those were my first memories of what the sky

looked like, what the temp was, etc.

 

Paula

 

On Thu, 23 Mar 2006 18:20:17 EST zainypagan writes:

 

 

In a message dated 3/23/2006 4:57:38 PM Central Standard Time,

lindai81 writes:

 

 

Oh, do you hang heavy curtains then around the house to dim the light

to

counteract the depression? Is depression the only thing that is a tell

tale

symptom...

 

 

I almost never ever leave out the front door during the summer, I live

in

Texas and the summers here are just unbearable.

 

 

Is depression the only thing that is a tell tale

symptom...like carbs for SAD?

 

 

I do crave carbs big time during the summer and I get so lethargic.

Cold

weather literally excites me, and I get a big thrill whenever I hear we

are

getting snow, sleet or ice

 

There are

days in the summer when I crave a darker day where the clouds make one

feel

cozy and tucked in, safer in some respect I suppose. I wonder if some of

both types is due to childhood experiences?

 

I keep the blinds closed unless it is cloudy outside, I cannot handle the

 

sun coming thru the blinds.

 

susie

 

 

[Guest guest]

It almost appears that too much of anything can be depressing for sure.

Either too much sun or too much rain and clouds.You in Texas have too much

sun and heat, we here in Western Oregon, and particularly up around Seattle,

get too much rain and clouds. Our days rarely get above 70-80 even in the

summer and in the winter stay around the 40's in the daytime with wind and

rain. Not real pleasant to go outside in actually. When I lived on the east

coast, Philly and D.C. there were plenty of times when sitting in the house

with heavy drapes shutting out the light was heavenly in the summer. But

there was always enough sun in the winter too to get me by without the SAD.

But that being said, my childhood had bad spots during the winter due to

family issues and I know that at times just the lighting outside can trigger

a really negative feeling inside. That lessens year after year, but still

happens. So maybe it is a combination of the hormonal imbalance (SAD) and

the childhood experiences that get me down.

linda

 

 

" Paula K Ward " <paulakward

> Hi linda and Susie--I've been reading your posts about SAD and reverse

> SAD. I find them very interesting as I live in Texas also, and can so

> relate to the reverse SAD idea. My very favorite days here are when the

> sky is overcast and it is comfortable to be outside...like in the 70's

> and lower 80's. I'd call it " balmy. " Yet, there are days in the winter

> when it has been gray for so long, and the temp outside is not freezing

> by any means, but too cool to be outdoors--either that or cold and rainy,

> that really do get depressing...just because it has dragged on so long.

>

> Yes!!! in the summer, that bright light and heat can really be

> oppressive. I find it very calming and relaxing to have the shades

> pulled, or the blind slats turned up so light filters in but doesn't

> shine down into the room. My brother taught me a trick about working

> outside in the summer. If you know you're going to have to be outside a

> good part of the day, then you need to get up very early, and get out

> there in the cool of the morning, like at daybreak, and just stay outside

> until you're done. It's not so bad then if you gradually get used to the

> heat...just don't go into the air-conditioning and hang out, because it's

> all over for the day then. And, the shade is your friend, also hats and

> protective clothing. I know you know this, Susie! I am a fellow person

> who loves the cold weather...and interestingly enough, I've had the same

> thought that you had, about childhood experiences. I've wondered whether

> the fact that I was born in January made me feel all warm and nurtured

> when it was wintertime and those were my first memories of what the sky

> looked like, what the temp was, etc.

>

> Paula