Guest guest Posted October 24, 2007 Report Share Posted October 24, 2007 24 October 2007 New Straits Times Letter by<letters N. SURENDRAN, for Malaysian Animal Rights and Welfare Society (ROAR) Kuala Lumpur THIS week is Malaysian Environment Week. I call upon the Minister of Natural Resources and Environment to restore the ban on the export of long-tailed macaques. Earlier this year, the ministry decided to lift the export ban in order to control the monkey population. This move reversed a 23-year ban on such exports. Most countries in the region have maintained the ban and have evolved other ways of dealing with macaque overpopulation. There are humane methods of controlling the macaque population, such as sterilisation, relocation and culling. To export them for their meat and to animal-testing labs is to condemn the monkeys to unimaginable pain and suffering. In addition, the lifting of the ban will lead to indiscriminate and excessive trapping and export of monkeys by illegal wildlife traders. The task of the Wildlife and National Parks Department in monitoring and halting illegal trade will also be that much harder with the lifting of the ban. This was, in fact, the situation in the 1980s, when the government made the right move of imposing the ban. If the ministry goes ahead with the export plan, undoubtedly Malaysia's reputation abroad will be damaged. Malaysians are a compassionate people who want animals to be treated justly and kindly. This is apparent from the recent nationwide furore over the Selayang Municipal Council's dog-catching competition. It is not skyscrapers and giant malls that make us a civilised nation. It is this coming together of all Malaysians, speaking in one voice transcending race and religion in defence of helpless animals that makes us an enlightened nation. It is hoped that the ministry will respond to this aspiration of all Malaysians by restoring the ban on the trade of long-tailed macaques. <http://www.nst.com.my/Current_News/NST/Wednesday/Letters/2066456/Article/index_\ html>http://www.nst.com.my/Current_News/NST/Wednesday/Letters/2066456/Article/in\ dex_html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 25, 2007 Report Share Posted October 25, 2007 < There are humane methods of controlling the macaque population, such as sterilisation, relocation and culling.> Correction: Culling certainly is not humane. At least not for those who believe in 'ANIMAL RIGHTS'. Culling is plain and simple 'MURDER " . With all due respect to the letter written by Mr. N. SURENDRAN, for Malaysian Animal Rights and Welfare Society (ROAR) Kuala Lumpur, I am afraid the lobby which supports 'CULLING OPERATIONS' for example : WWF etc, will jump in to embrace such statements where the word 'CULLING' is glorified. May I request our animal people to kindly be a little more responsible in drafting their views so that it is not picked up by wrong people for wrong reasons. Azam Siddiqui On 10/24/07, Shirley McGreal <smcgreal wrote: > > > 24 October 2007 > New Straits Times > Letter by<letters <letters%40nst.com.my>> N. SURENDRAN, > for Malaysian > Animal Rights and Welfare Society (ROAR) Kuala Lumpur > > THIS week is Malaysian Environment Week. I call upon the Minister of > Natural Resources and Environment to restore the ban on the export of > long-tailed macaques. > > Earlier this year, the ministry decided to lift the export ban in > order to control the monkey population. This move reversed a 23-year > ban on such exports. > > Most countries in the region have maintained the ban and have evolved > other ways of dealing with macaque overpopulation. > > There are humane methods of controlling the macaque population, such > as sterilisation, relocation and culling. > > To export them for their meat and to animal-testing labs is to > condemn the monkeys to unimaginable pain and suffering. > > In addition, the lifting of the ban will lead to indiscriminate and > excessive trapping and export of monkeys by illegal wildlife traders. > > The task of the Wildlife and National Parks Department in monitoring > and halting illegal trade will also be that much harder with the > lifting of the ban. This was, in fact, the situation in the 1980s, > when the government made the right move of imposing the ban. If the > ministry goes ahead with the export plan, undoubtedly Malaysia's > reputation abroad will be damaged. > > Malaysians are a compassionate people who want animals to be treated > justly and kindly. > > This is apparent from the recent nationwide furore over the Selayang > Municipal Council's dog-catching competition. > > It is not skyscrapers and giant malls that make us a civilised > nation. It is this coming together of all Malaysians, speaking in one > voice transcending race and religion in defence of helpless animals > that makes us an enlightened nation. > > It is hoped that the ministry will respond to this aspiration of all > Malaysians by restoring the ban on the trade of long-tailed macaques. > > < > http://www.nst.com.my/Current_News/NST/Wednesday/Letters/2066456/Article/index_h\ tml > > > http://www.nst.com.my/Current_News/NST/Wednesday/Letters/2066456/Article/index_h\ tml > > > > > -- Fight captive Jumbo abuse, end Elephant Polo http://www.stopelephantpolo.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 26, 2007 Report Share Posted October 26, 2007 Dear Azam, Thank you very much for pointing this out. I concur with you entirely: culling is certainly not a humane operation. Culling, as you have said, is plain and simple murder. I am glad you took notice of this. Best wishes and kind regards, On 10/25/07, AZAM SIDDIQUI <azam24x7 wrote: > > < There are humane methods of controlling the macaque population, such > as sterilisation, relocation and culling.> > > Correction: > > Culling certainly is not humane. At least not for those who believe in > 'ANIMAL RIGHTS'. > Culling is plain and simple 'MURDER " . > With all due respect to the letter written by Mr. N. SURENDRAN, for > Malaysian > Animal Rights and Welfare Society (ROAR) Kuala Lumpur, I am afraid the > lobby > which supports 'CULLING OPERATIONS' for example : WWF etc, will jump in to > embrace such statements where the word 'CULLING' is glorified. > May I request our animal people to kindly be a little more responsible in > drafting their views so that it is not picked up by wrong people for wrong > reasons. > > Azam Siddiqui > > On 10/24/07, Shirley McGreal <smcgreal <smcgreal%40ippl.org>> > wrote: > > > > > > 24 October 2007 > > New Straits Times > > Letter by<letters <letters%40nst.com.my><letters%40nst.com.my>> N. SURENDRAN, > > for Malaysian > > Animal Rights and Welfare Society (ROAR) Kuala Lumpur > > > > THIS week is Malaysian Environment Week. I call upon the Minister of > > Natural Resources and Environment to restore the ban on the export of > > long-tailed macaques. > > > > Earlier this year, the ministry decided to lift the export ban in > > order to control the monkey population. This move reversed a 23-year > > ban on such exports. > > > > Most countries in the region have maintained the ban and have evolved > > other ways of dealing with macaque overpopulation. > > > > There are humane methods of controlling the macaque population, such > > as sterilisation, relocation and culling. > > > > To export them for their meat and to animal-testing labs is to > > condemn the monkeys to unimaginable pain and suffering. > > > > In addition, the lifting of the ban will lead to indiscriminate and > > excessive trapping and export of monkeys by illegal wildlife traders. > > > > The task of the Wildlife and National Parks Department in monitoring > > and halting illegal trade will also be that much harder with the > > lifting of the ban. This was, in fact, the situation in the 1980s, > > when the government made the right move of imposing the ban. If the > > ministry goes ahead with the export plan, undoubtedly Malaysia's > > reputation abroad will be damaged. > > > > Malaysians are a compassionate people who want animals to be treated > > justly and kindly. > > > > This is apparent from the recent nationwide furore over the Selayang > > Municipal Council's dog-catching competition. > > > > It is not skyscrapers and giant malls that make us a civilised > > nation. It is this coming together of all Malaysians, speaking in one > > voice transcending race and religion in defence of helpless animals > > that makes us an enlightened nation. > > > > It is hoped that the ministry will respond to this aspiration of all > > Malaysians by restoring the ban on the trade of long-tailed macaques. > > > > < > > > http://www.nst.com.my/Current_News/NST/Wednesday/Letters/2066456/Article/index_h\ tml > > > > > > http://www.nst.com.my/Current_News/NST/Wednesday/Letters/2066456/Article/index_h\ tml > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > Fight captive Jumbo abuse, end Elephant Polo > http://www.stopelephantpolo.com > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 26, 2007 Report Share Posted October 26, 2007 Shubroto, I am currently at Penang, Malaysia and reviewed their proposals in detail and culling was definitely on the list.....UNFORTUNATELY It seems like certain organizations have been chanting the culling episode in Africa as being one that was highly successful. It is unfortunate that such reputed organizations who have definitly done their bit for animals otherwise seems to consider this as one of the options. I have provided alternate suggestions and also had a detailed discussion with Yitze on this issue. I am grateful that people like Yitze are fighting hard to divert such a crisis. I believe the discussion will come up again tomorrow and my feedback would be reviewed. I am keeping my fingers crossed that they honour my suggestions and diffuse a situation leading to culling or even exporting monkeys for food (having seen them used in food, it is horrendous) At this point of time, the question of culling or exporting monkeys for food needs to be kept aside and the government needs to work more pro actively and in fact SMARTLY to avoid this unplanned, human created mess. Regards, Pablo. On 10/26/07, wrote: > > Dear Azam, > Thank you very much for pointing this out. I concur with > you entirely: culling is certainly not a humane operation. Culling, as you > have said, is plain and simple murder. I am glad you took notice of this. > Best wishes and kind regards, > > > > On 10/25/07, AZAM SIDDIQUI <azam24x7 <azam24x7%40gmail.com>> > wrote: > > > > < There are humane methods of controlling the macaque population, such > > as sterilisation, relocation and culling.> > > > > Correction: > > > > Culling certainly is not humane. At least not for those who believe in > > 'ANIMAL RIGHTS'. > > Culling is plain and simple 'MURDER " . > > With all due respect to the letter written by Mr. N. SURENDRAN, for > > Malaysian > > Animal Rights and Welfare Society (ROAR) Kuala Lumpur, I am afraid the > > lobby > > which supports 'CULLING OPERATIONS' for example : WWF etc, will jump in > to > > embrace such statements where the word 'CULLING' is glorified. > > May I request our animal people to kindly be a little more responsible > in > > drafting their views so that it is not picked up by wrong people for > wrong > > reasons. > > > > Azam Siddiqui > > > > On 10/24/07, Shirley McGreal <smcgreal <smcgreal%40ippl.org><smcgreal%40ippl.org>> > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > 24 October 2007 > > > New Straits Times > > > Letter by<letters <letters%40nst.com.my><letters%40nst.com.my><letters%40nst.com.my>> N. SURENDRAN, > > > for Malaysian > > > Animal Rights and Welfare Society (ROAR) Kuala Lumpur > > > > > > THIS week is Malaysian Environment Week. I call upon the Minister of > > > Natural Resources and Environment to restore the ban on the export of > > > long-tailed macaques. > > > > > > Earlier this year, the ministry decided to lift the export ban in > > > order to control the monkey population. This move reversed a 23-year > > > ban on such exports. > > > > > > Most countries in the region have maintained the ban and have evolved > > > other ways of dealing with macaque overpopulation. > > > > > > There are humane methods of controlling the macaque population, such > > > as sterilisation, relocation and culling. > > > > > > To export them for their meat and to animal-testing labs is to > > > condemn the monkeys to unimaginable pain and suffering. > > > > > > In addition, the lifting of the ban will lead to indiscriminate and > > > excessive trapping and export of monkeys by illegal wildlife traders. > > > > > > The task of the Wildlife and National Parks Department in monitoring > > > and halting illegal trade will also be that much harder with the > > > lifting of the ban. This was, in fact, the situation in the 1980s, > > > when the government made the right move of imposing the ban. If the > > > ministry goes ahead with the export plan, undoubtedly Malaysia's > > > reputation abroad will be damaged. > > > > > > Malaysians are a compassionate people who want animals to be treated > > > justly and kindly. > > > > > > This is apparent from the recent nationwide furore over the Selayang > > > Municipal Council's dog-catching competition. > > > > > > It is not skyscrapers and giant malls that make us a civilised > > > nation. It is this coming together of all Malaysians, speaking in one > > > voice transcending race and religion in defence of helpless animals > > > that makes us an enlightened nation. > > > > > > It is hoped that the ministry will respond to this aspiration of all > > > Malaysians by restoring the ban on the trade of long-tailed macaques. > > > > > > < > > > > > > http://www.nst.com.my/Current_News/NST/Wednesday/Letters/2066456/Article/index_h\ tml > > > > > > > > > > http://www.nst.com.my/Current_News/NST/Wednesday/Letters/2066456/Article/index_h\ tml > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > Fight captive Jumbo abuse, end Elephant Polo > > http://www.stopelephantpolo.com > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 26, 2007 Report Share Posted October 26, 2007 Dear Pablo, Can you please clarify this: is an animal rights organisation endorsing culling as a humane measure? We have to keep in mind that there is a difference between culling and selective euthanasia although euthanasia has been widely misused. Please revert on this. Thanks for taking an interest in this issue. Best wishes and kind regards, On 10/26/07, Pablo <pablo.tachil wrote: > > Shubroto, I am currently at Penang, Malaysia and reviewed their proposals > in detail and culling was definitly on the list.....UNFORTUNATELY > > It seems like certain organizations have been chanting the culling episode > in Africa as being one that was highly successful. It is unfortunate that > such reputed organizations who have definitly done their bit for animals > otherwise seems to consider this as one of the options. > > I have provided alternate suggestions and also had a detailed discussion > with Yitze on this issue. I am greatful that people like Yitze are fighting > hard to divert such a crisis. I believe the discussion will come up again > tomorrow and my feedback would be reviewed. I am keeping my fingers crossed > that they honour my suggestions and diffuse a situation leading to culling > or even exporting monkeys for food (having seen them used in food, it is > horrendous) > > At this point of time, the question of culling or exporting monkeys for > food needs to be kept aside and the government needs to work more pro > actively and infact SMARTLY to avoid this unplanned, human created mess. > > Regards, Pablo. > > > On 10/26/07, wrote: > > > > Dear Azam, > > Thank you very much for pointing this out. I concur with > > you entirely: culling is certainly not a humane operation. Culling, as > > you > > have said, is plain and simple murder. I am glad you took notice of > > this. > > Best wishes and kind regards, > > > > > > > > On 10/25/07, AZAM SIDDIQUI <azam24x7 <azam24x7%40gmail.com>> > > wrote: > > > > > > < There are humane methods of controlling the macaque population, such > > > as sterilisation, relocation and culling.> > > > > > > Correction: > > > > > > Culling certainly is not humane. At least not for those who believe in > > > > > 'ANIMAL RIGHTS'. > > > Culling is plain and simple 'MURDER " . > > > With all due respect to the letter written by Mr. N. SURENDRAN, for > > > Malaysian > > > Animal Rights and Welfare Society (ROAR) Kuala Lumpur, I am afraid the > > > > > lobby > > > which supports 'CULLING OPERATIONS' for example : WWF etc, will jump > > in to > > > embrace such statements where the word 'CULLING' is glorified. > > > May I request our animal people to kindly be a little more responsible > > in > > > drafting their views so that it is not picked up by wrong people for > > wrong > > > reasons. > > > > > > Azam Siddiqui > > > > > > On 10/24/07, Shirley McGreal < smcgreal <smcgreal%40ippl.org><smcgreal%40ippl.org>> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > 24 October 2007 > > > > New Straits Times > > > > Letter by< letters <letters%40nst.com.my><letters%40nst.com.my><letters%40nst.com.my>> N. SURENDRAN, > > > > for Malaysian > > > > Animal Rights and Welfare Society (ROAR) Kuala Lumpur > > > > > > > > THIS week is Malaysian Environment Week. I call upon the Minister of > > > > > > Natural Resources and Environment to restore the ban on the export > > of > > > > long-tailed macaques. > > > > > > > > Earlier this year, the ministry decided to lift the export ban in > > > > order to control the monkey population. This move reversed a 23-year > > > > > > ban on such exports. > > > > > > > > Most countries in the region have maintained the ban and have > > evolved > > > > other ways of dealing with macaque overpopulation. > > > > > > > > There are humane methods of controlling the macaque population, such > > > > > > as sterilisation, relocation and culling. > > > > > > > > To export them for their meat and to animal-testing labs is to > > > > condemn the monkeys to unimaginable pain and suffering. > > > > > > > > In addition, the lifting of the ban will lead to indiscriminate and > > > > excessive trapping and export of monkeys by illegal wildlife > > traders. > > > > > > > > The task of the Wildlife and National Parks Department in monitoring > > > > > > and halting illegal trade will also be that much harder with the > > > > lifting of the ban. This was, in fact, the situation in the 1980s, > > > > when the government made the right move of imposing the ban. If the > > > > ministry goes ahead with the export plan, undoubtedly Malaysia's > > > > reputation abroad will be damaged. > > > > > > > > Malaysians are a compassionate people who want animals to be treated > > > > > > justly and kindly. > > > > > > > > This is apparent from the recent nationwide furore over the Selayang > > > > Municipal Council's dog-catching competition. > > > > > > > > It is not skyscrapers and giant malls that make us a civilised > > > > nation. It is this coming together of all Malaysians, speaking in > > one > > > > voice transcending race and religion in defence of helpless animals > > > > that makes us an enlightened nation. > > > > > > > > It is hoped that the ministry will respond to this aspiration of all > > > > Malaysians by restoring the ban on the trade of long-tailed > > macaques. > > > > > > > > < > > > > > > > > > http://www.nst.com.my/Current_News/NST/Wednesday/Letters/2066456/Article/index_h\ tml > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.nst.com.my/Current_News/NST/Wednesday/Letters/2066456/Article/index_h\ tml > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > Fight captive Jumbo abuse, end Elephant Polo > > > http://www.stopelephantpolo.com > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 26, 2007 Report Share Posted October 26, 2007 I think it would be appropriate to wait for the final decision based on the meetings that are due to happen over the next couple of days. It woudl be irresponsible on my part if I revealed any names or organizations at this point of time. It would go against professional ethics. But I will definitly keep you posted on the latest developments as and when I hear of it. Thanks for understanding, Pablo. On 10/26/07, wrote: > > Dear Pablo, > Can you please clarify this: is an animal rights > organisation endorsing culling as a humane measure? We have to keep in mind > that there is a difference between culling and selective euthanasia although > euthanasia has been widely misused. Please revert on this. Thanks for taking > an interest in this issue. > Best wishes and kind regards, > > > > > On 10/26/07, Pablo <pablo.tachil wrote: > > > > Shubroto, I am currently at Penang, Malaysia and reviewed their > > proposals in detail and culling was definitly on the list.....UNFORTUNATELY > > > > It seems like certain organizations have been chanting the culling > > episode in Africa as being one that was highly successful. It is unfortunate > > that such reputed organizations who have definitly done their bit for > > animals otherwise seems to consider this as one of the options. > > > > I have provided alternate suggestions and also had a detailed discussion > > with Yitze on this issue. I am greatful that people like Yitze are fighting > > hard to divert such a crisis. I believe the discussion will come up again > > tomorrow and my feedback would be reviewed. I am keeping my fingers crossed > > that they honour my suggestions and diffuse a situation leading to culling > > or even exporting monkeys for food (having seen them used in food, it is > > horrendous) > > > > At this point of time, the question of culling or exporting monkeys for > > food needs to be kept aside and the government needs to work more pro > > actively and infact SMARTLY to avoid this unplanned, human created mess. > > > > Regards, Pablo. > > > > > > On 10/26/07, < journalistandanimals wrote: > > > > > > Dear Azam, > > > Thank you very much for pointing this out. I concur with > > > you entirely: culling is certainly not a humane operation. Culling, as > > > you > > > have said, is plain and simple murder. I am glad you took notice of > > > this. > > > Best wishes and kind regards, > > > > > > > > > > > > On 10/25/07, AZAM SIDDIQUI <azam24x7 <azam24x7%40gmail.com>> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > < There are humane methods of controlling the macaque population, > > > such > > > > as sterilisation, relocation and culling.> > > > > > > > > Correction: > > > > > > > > Culling certainly is not humane. At least not for those who believe > > > in > > > > 'ANIMAL RIGHTS'. > > > > Culling is plain and simple 'MURDER " . > > > > With all due respect to the letter written by Mr. N. SURENDRAN, for > > > > Malaysian > > > > Animal Rights and Welfare Society (ROAR) Kuala Lumpur, I am afraid > > > the > > > > lobby > > > > which supports 'CULLING OPERATIONS' for example : WWF etc, will jump > > > in to > > > > embrace such statements where the word 'CULLING' is glorified. > > > > May I request our animal people to kindly be a little more > > > responsible in > > > > drafting their views so that it is not picked up by wrong people for > > > wrong > > > > reasons. > > > > > > > > Azam Siddiqui > > > > > > > > On 10/24/07, Shirley McGreal < smcgreal<smcgreal%40ippl.org><smcgreal%40ippl.org>> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 24 October 2007 > > > > > New Straits Times > > > > > Letter by< letters <letters%40nst.com.my><letters%40nst.com.my><letters%40nst.com.my>> N. SURENDRAN, > > > > > for Malaysian > > > > > Animal Rights and Welfare Society (ROAR) Kuala Lumpur > > > > > > > > > > THIS week is Malaysian Environment Week. I call upon the Minister > > > of > > > > > Natural Resources and Environment to restore the ban on the export > > > of > > > > > long-tailed macaques. > > > > > > > > > > Earlier this year, the ministry decided to lift the export ban in > > > > > order to control the monkey population. This move reversed a > > > 23-year > > > > > ban on such exports. > > > > > > > > > > Most countries in the region have maintained the ban and have > > > evolved > > > > > other ways of dealing with macaque overpopulation. > > > > > > > > > > There are humane methods of controlling the macaque population, > > > such > > > > > as sterilisation, relocation and culling. > > > > > > > > > > To export them for their meat and to animal-testing labs is to > > > > > condemn the monkeys to unimaginable pain and suffering. > > > > > > > > > > In addition, the lifting of the ban will lead to indiscriminate > > > and > > > > > excessive trapping and export of monkeys by illegal wildlife > > > traders. > > > > > > > > > > The task of the Wildlife and National Parks Department in > > > monitoring > > > > > and halting illegal trade will also be that much harder with the > > > > > lifting of the ban. This was, in fact, the situation in the 1980s, > > > > > when the government made the right move of imposing the ban. If > > > the > > > > > ministry goes ahead with the export plan, undoubtedly Malaysia's > > > > > reputation abroad will be damaged. > > > > > > > > > > Malaysians are a compassionate people who want animals to be > > > treated > > > > > justly and kindly. > > > > > > > > > > This is apparent from the recent nationwide furore over the > > > Selayang > > > > > Municipal Council's dog-catching competition. > > > > > > > > > > It is not skyscrapers and giant malls that make us a civilised > > > > > nation. It is this coming together of all Malaysians, speaking in > > > one > > > > > voice transcending race and religion in defence of helpless > > > animals > > > > > that makes us an enlightened nation. > > > > > > > > > > It is hoped that the ministry will respond to this aspiration of > > > all > > > > > Malaysians by restoring the ban on the trade of long-tailed > > > macaques. > > > > > > > > > > < > > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.nst.com.my/Current_News/NST/Wednesday/Letters/2066456/Article/index_h\ tml > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.nst.com.my/Current_News/NST/Wednesday/Letters/2066456/Article/index_h\ tml > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > Fight captive Jumbo abuse, end Elephant Polo > > > > http://www.stopelephantpolo.com > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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