Overwhelming RESPONSES to Economic Times, India, article

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Von: Rishi Dev <rishidev000

An: Rishi Dev <rishidev

Datum: 31.10.2007 05:47

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*Dear friends,*

*here are some of the many responses that the Economic times have received

so far for the rubbish about animals they published. I am only enclosing

some of them, as the others were just one liners. *

*This is great work by everyone and we must continue to put this pressure

and express our concern over such misadventures by the media print media.*

*Great work people....lets keep up the pressure. It surely makes a

difference. BUT THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE WRITING NEEDS TO GO UP MANY TIMES TILL

IT BECOMES TOO MUCH FOR THEM...WE MUST ALSO APPRECIATE THE GOOD PIECES, LIKE

THE ONE H.T. WROTE ON MONKEYS.*

*thanks*

*best wishes*

*rishi*

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*THE RESPONSES in the order i received them :*

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*Richa Gupta** *

 

Dear Madam,

 

As said below, your article IS quite *entertaining and comical* to read. But

doesnt matter, everyone can make mistakes. I know some human beings dont

have the ability to think beyond their race, so let me give you the other

side of the story for which facts are easily available and you can easily

remove your doubts and misconceptions.

 

Do you know at what rate human population is increasing as compared to dog

population or monkey population or whatever animals you want to put in the

list?

Do you know how rapidly the forests are being eliminated to cater for land

for cultivation or growth of industry or houses to live in etc for human

beings?

Do you know how many species, like panda, tiger etc are on the brink of

extinction because of us human beings?

 

Who is encroaching on whose territory is very evident and who is a menace to

society and natural balance on this earth is also quite evident. Please, in

the future, try to see a bigger picture. I'll gladly help you out in case

you are unable to see all the facts clearly.

 

Thanks and Regards,

Richa

 

 

 

*sonya ghosh*

response to the article Too much monkey business

mythili.bhusnurmath

 

 

 

Dear Madam,

 

With reference to your article in the Economic Times of Sunday, the 28th of

October, 2007, you have made certain statements which are entirely without

proof. Kindly produce evidence of the following statements made by you or

withdraw them unconditionally. Firstly, the death of the Deputy Mayor,

unfortunate and tragic as it was, was due to a fall from his parapet. Should

a person fall to his death upon seeing a journalist, could we conclude that

journalists and indeed everyone else in the media industry be removed to

pounds outside the city? Secondly, kindly cite ALL cases of monkey attacks.

It is not enough to say that they 'are becoming increasingly common', please

cite these cases, the problem areas, names of victims, proof of attack and

your source of information. As for stray dogs, The Stray Canine Animal Birth

Control Program has been in progress for years. The MCD and several NGOs

have undertaken the gigantic task of sterilizing and vaccinating dogs and

releasing them. Kindly also offer proof of your statement that the stray dog

population is 'close to 30 million'. By whom was a census survey conducted?

When? What was the method followed?

 

Only certain people with deep rooted antipathy against animals will want to

eliminate animals from the city. Others wish to grab easy publicity by

magnifying animal issues, since the animals cannot speak for themselves,

then they proceed to villify animal activists. However, most people have no

time for these idiotic pretensions. Please direct your attentions towards

the abyssmal lack of infrastructure in this city. Please ensure clean

drinking water, housing and safe transportation for Delhiites before you

talk of a 'world class city'. Perhaps you would also like to create pounds

(outside the city) for slum and pavement dwellers as well, since they

contradict the myth of progress that you propogate? In the meantime, you

would be well advised to start a pound for the killer Blue Line bus drivers,

you would find many more supporters.

 

Yours faithfully,

 

Sonya Ghosh

 

 

 

*Christine Krishnasami** *

 

Dear Ms Bhusnumath:

 

With reference to your article, 'Too much monkey business', the only humane

method (approved by the Constitution of India) to control huge populations

of animals in an urban environment is by way sterilisation. For instance,

you must have heard of the various forms of torture to which monkeys are

subjected in several parts of southeast Asia. In places like Hong Kong and

Singapore (yes, even there!), there are regular requests by customers at

restaurants for monkey brains. A live monkey is tethered to the legs of a

table. Then its head is sliced open, and its brains are sucked out through

a straw by the customer. Perhaps these two-legged monsters got the idea by

watching eagles savour monkey brains as a food item.

 

The Indian way, of course, is to dilly-dally, dither, do nothing, and then

suddenly do the wrong thing at a late hour! Thus, problems, people and

animals also multiply. At the other end of the spectrum is the extreme

cruelty shown to animalkind by the populace of southeastern countries.

Well, which would you rather choose? The Indian right royal mess and

mayhem, or diabolic cruelty in outwardly clean and modern southeastern

cities?

 

Yours truly,

 

Vasumathi Krishnasami

 

 

 

*Elke Winkler** *

 

Dear Madam,

 

I learned about your article which means in summary " animals out of the

city " .

 

I have been several times to India also to Delhi, I never met a monkey

there, probably because I was not in the right areas. Maybe the problem

should be solved with the help of wildlife experts who know exactly what

needs the monkeys have and not just wild decisions which are cruel and

useless.

 

In the German TV they showed this year a report about the problem monkey

in India. The title of this report was " when animals disturb " . It showed

the situation in an Indian town (I don't know now which one it was),

where the monkeys were running in groups through this town, steeling

things, etc. The Authorities ordered to move the monkeys out of the

town. And here comes the real horrible thing: First the people who were

catching the animals were doing it without any care as if those are not

living creatures, but just unimportant things. They were crammed into

little cages and this was done quite brutally so that monkeys got

injured. They separated families so that little babies were screeming

for their mother. This all done in such insensible way that it became a

real horror to watch. Above all, they let them free outside the town on

a hill without any green space or water - obviously it was accepted that

they probably can't survive there.

 

The whole action seemed to me most stupid and brutal. If there is not

offered an adequate place where they can live in peace and have enough

food and water, then it is useless. Most of the animals will try to get

back to the town, where they know there is food and water. They are

living creatures with feelings with the ability to suffer as a human

does, not just a " thing " .

 

Now to the stray dogs: have you ever been to a dog pound in India ??

Dogs love to go around, to have company - in a dog pound in India it

would be life prison without real human care, probably even without real

medical care. In the end it would be a mass-camp where a doglife doesn't

count anything. To suggest something like that is really not to understand.

 

Here in Germany we generelly don't have strays. Most people know when

they take a dog to their home as a pet that they have a responsibility

for this animal and that they have to take care of it till the rest for

it's life. Unfortunately there are some people who don't want the dog

anymore and either bring it to a shelter or put it on the street. But to

put a dog on the street is not a habit here. Anyway our shelters are all

owned by animal welfare organisations and they generally are what the

word says " shelter " . Because many people in Germany love animals, those

dogs which come to a shelter find quite soon a new home.

 

It is not a " must " to put a dog on a leash in town, but many people do

it, because of the traffic, that means to protect the animal. Even the

best trained dog, can run across the street if he sees his favored

rival, friend or even a bitch on heat. Only dogs which are agressiv must

wear a muzzle. But the owner has the possibility to train his dog and he

can do a test together with the dog in proving that the dog is not

anymore agressiv. In multi-storeyed appartment blocks are normally dogs

allowed, but one has to ask anyway the permission of the owner. Cats can

be held without permission. In one part you are right and that is that

the owner is responsible for his dog and what he does. He should not

allow the dog to relief itself at a car or gate, because I suppose the

owner of the dog would not like it on his car or gate... The same with

the remains, even I have a dog, I don't want to step in it, so I think

one should remove it. I think this all is a kind of educational matter.

That strays can't remove it is something to accept.

 

What I noted in India is, that most people don't have much idea about

the nature of a dog. I never had problems with strays in India and I met

a lot of them. They are not so difficult to understand if one is

learning a bit about it. People should be informed and children in

school educated also in this direction. The problem of the number of

strays wouldn't exist, if the officials would do more in " animal birth

control " not only there and then, but consequently. It is known and

proved that this is the only civilized and successful methode. Killing

is first of all brutal and barbaric and in the end it showes no success.

The horrendous news were going round the world when in Bangalore and

Kerala were (and are) dogs killed and tortured by ... what are they -

monsters? It is a scandal and a civilized country not worthy! As Jeremy

Benthem 19th Century Philosopher said : " The question is not, can they

reason? nor, can they talk? But rather, can they suffer? " They can, like

you and me...

 

Sincerely,

 

Elke Winkler

Berlin/Germany

 

 

 

*geetha pr** *

 

Dear Madam,

This has reference to your article in the Economic

Times of Sunday, the 28th of October, 2007. I was an

admirer of ET and I took the trouble to and

to read.

 

After reading your article, TOO much monkey business,

I feel the quality of your work has gone down as the

article does not provide accurate information and is

baseless. Perhaps, such information, not relevant to

your papers are published to fill in the gap. You

should have used your energy towards the stock market

which has been the main attraction. The death of the

Dy. Mayor, though saddening is not due to monkeys.

Please verify the facts before publishing since we

also get to read, hear, talk through other sources.

 

I am sure, if animals could stand for themselves, you

would have been more careful on deciding what to

publish.

 

While from my side, I have decided NOT to buy ET

which does not seem to provide authentic information.

I am sure, many more rs, will also take

similar stand.

 

I hope, you take much trouble in publishing the

articles relevant to your area of work.

 

 

Geetha PR

189, 5th Main, 4th Block, Jayanagar,

Bangalore 560011.

 

 

 

 

 

*Synergy*

 

*Who's the monkey and who is the moron?*

 

Dear mythili.bhusnurmath,

 

 

 

I can understand why you are writing for the Time Group.

 

The TOI often fails to demand from its writers 1) accurate

knowledge/information and 2) some kind of general education -- this, let me

explain, doesn't mean a college degree or the ability to write the English

language; it means an " awareness " of the nature of the world we live

in, which the especially loud-mouthed variety of the human species would do

well to have, because it might help the earth to last a little longer.

 

 

 

You need both, desperately.

 

 

 

When it comes to animals, I have found that the shrillest voices calling for

their " removal " come from the poorest thinkers. You, Ms Bhusnurmath (if

that's your name), are certainly one of them. You know nothing about my

city, including how or why those poor children were attacked. Yours is

irresponsible, rabble-rousing talk, the kind the Times seems to take delight

in. Come to Bangalore one of these days, and we'll try and put you through a

crash course on the place and role of human beings on this planet.

 

 

 

Till you can do that, do refrain from filling the columns of newspapers with

your brand of stupidity. In a better world, you would be locked away for a

bit (preferably in a cage).

 

 

 

Most sincerely,

 

Meera Pillai

 

 

 

*Sparsh Pande*

 

 

 

*I cant beleive you call yourself an animal rights actvist!*

Hello,(Rishi)

 

Don't mind me saying this, but your response to the

article in The Economic Times was extremely immature.

You need to learn to criticize constructively (Read :

Maturely) instead of half a dozen intended humour

pieces. Do think about it.

 

Sparsh Pande

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*MY response I had send earlier to everyone*