(IN): SC to decide on jallikattu in Tamil Nadu

[Guest guest]

Link:

http://www.ndtv.com/convergence/ndtv/story.aspx?id=NEWEN20080038093 & ch=1/9/2008%\

209:22:00%20AM

 

*SC to decide on jallikattu in Tamil Nadu*

Sanjay Pinto

 

 

Wednesday, January 9, 2008 (Madurai)

It is the 'jallikattu' season in Tamil Nadu, in the run up to the harvest

festival. But there is no preparation only tension and anxiety.

 

In a few days, the Supreme Court will decide whether to allow this game of

taming of an aggressive bull to take place in rural Madurai.

 

It is an annual event that is said to date back to the 3rd century during

the Pandya rule, which is well before Spain's bull-fight evolved.

 

In Alanganallur, one of the main venues, people say breaking this tradition

will not augur well for their villages.

 

''If the Jallikattu is not held, this village will have difficult times,

disease and so on,'' said local resident.

 

This State government backed sport draws many foreign tourists. But animal

rights activists have for long called for a ban due to cruelty to bulls and

deaths of many young men.

 

''Bulls will gore and people will get injured. You just can't help that,''

said another resident.

 

Last year, the Madras High Court allowed the event to take place. But it

imposed certain conditions like double barricading to prevent the bulls from

running through the crowd of spectators, putting bulls through drug and

alcohol tests and stationing ambulances and mobile medical teams at the

venues.

 

Government says that the measures ensured that there was no cruelty to the

bulls and no deaths but only injuries caused to the tamers at the main

venues.

 

''If the conditions are strictly adhered to, it will be incident free,''

said L KTripathy, Chief Secretary, Tamil Nadu.

 

That is a line activists are not willing to buy. So they asked the Supreme

Court to decide whether this is a game of valour or cruelty.

 

 

--

United against elephant polo

http://www.stopelephantpolo.com

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

Certainly it is matter of concern and shall be dealt according to law of

land. Honorable Supreme Court is examining the issue and hope to do the

Justice to animals and stop cruelty.

This issue raises many other issues also and I will like to attract the

attention of all concerned and particularly AAPN fellow members.

 

1. Sacrifice on Bakr Id day which has already been declared void and illegal

but whole country witnesses the same.

2. Illegal and most cruel transportation of animals in whole country

3. Unauthorized, illegal slaughter houses engaged apart from illegal

activities and providing unhygienic meat , Beef, pork for human

consumption .

 

There is no Data collection on national level about DOG CENSUS, amount spent

by Civic authorities, Foreign contributions to awos Grant from AWBI &

donation money spent on dog Birth Control. & quantum of implementation of

ABC DOG RULES .

Like 'jallikattu' this issue has also become two sided. One side AWOs are

crying for stopping the cruelty on Dogs and on the other side public is

crying against Dog menace. Though authontic datas are not available BUT

estimated cumulative national figure of money spent by Civic bodies crosses

RS. 100-150 Crores / year. apart from other sources.

 

I request to Learned Indian Animal lovers like Mr. Azam Siddiqui, Suborto

Ghosh, Pablo (the common names, I see on aapn) shall come forward and raise

these issues in a strong and meaning full way, please.

 

Regards

Dr. SK Mittal

 

On Jan 9, 2008 3:27 PM, AZAM SIDDIQUI <azam24x7 wrote:

 

> Link:

>

>

http://www.ndtv.com/convergence/ndtv/story.aspx?id=NEWEN20080038093 & ch=1/9/2008%\

209:22:00%20AM

>

> *SC to decide on jallikattu in Tamil Nadu*

> Sanjay Pinto

>

> Wednesday, January 9, 2008 (Madurai)

> It is the 'jallikattu' season in Tamil Nadu, in the run up to the harvest

> festival. But there is no preparation only tension and anxiety.

>

> In a few days, the Supreme Court will decide whether to allow this game of

> taming of an aggressive bull to take place in rural Madurai.

>

> It is an annual event that is said to date back to the 3rd century during

> the Pandya rule, which is well before Spain's bull-fight evolved.

>

> In Alanganallur, one of the main venues, people say breaking this

> tradition

> will not augur well for their villages.

>

> ''If the Jallikattu is not held, this village will have difficult times,

> disease and so on,'' said local resident.

>

> This State government backed sport draws many foreign tourists. But animal

> rights activists have for long called for a ban due to cruelty to bulls

> and

> deaths of many young men.

>

> ''Bulls will gore and people will get injured. You just can't help that,''

> said another resident.

>

> Last year, the Madras High Court allowed the event to take place. But it

> imposed certain conditions like double barricading to prevent the bulls

> from

> running through the crowd of spectators, putting bulls through drug and

> alcohol tests and stationing ambulances and mobile medical teams at the

> venues.

>

> Government says that the measures ensured that there was no cruelty to the

> bulls and no deaths but only injuries caused to the tamers at the main

> venues.

>

> ''If the conditions are strictly adhered to, it will be incident free,''

> said L KTripathy, Chief Secretary, Tamil Nadu.

>

> That is a line activists are not willing to buy. So they asked the Supreme

> Court to decide whether this is a game of valour or cruelty.

>

> --

> United against elephant polo

> http://www.stopelephantpolo.com

>

>

[Guest guest]

I would be thankful if Mr. Mittle could please let us know from when the

sacrifice on Bakr Id day has been declared " void and illegal " . As a

responsible member of the Animal Welfare Board of India, he should not make

misleading and wrong statements like this.

 

Likewise, he should be able to provide the information on the dog census and

ABC operations - why is he asking Pablo, Shubhoroto and Azam to do this?

 

A. D'Souza

 

 

On 1/9/08, MITTAL SK <awbikk wrote:

>

> Certainly it is matter of concern and shall be dealt according to law of

> land. Honorable Supreme Court is examining the issue and hope to do the

> Justice to animals and stop cruelty.

> This issue raises many other issues also and I will like to attract the

> attention of all concerned and particularly AAPN fellow members.

>

> 1. Sacrifice on Bakr Id day which has already been declared void and

> illegal

> but whole country witnesses the same.

> 2. Illegal and most cruel transportation of animals in whole country

> 3. Unauthorized, illegal slaughter houses engaged apart from illegal

> activities and providing unhygienic meat , Beef, pork for human

> consumption .

>

> There is no Data collection on national level about DOG CENSUS, amount

> spent

> by Civic authorities, Foreign contributions to awos Grant from AWBI &

> donation money spent on dog Birth Control. & quantum of implementation of

> ABC DOG RULES .

> Like 'jallikattu' this issue has also become two sided. One side AWOs are

> crying for stopping the cruelty on Dogs and on the other side public is

> crying against Dog menace. Though authontic datas are not available BUT

> estimated cumulative national figure of money spent by Civic bodies

> crosses

> RS. 100-150 Crores / year. apart from other sources.

>

> I request to Learned Indian Animal lovers like Mr. Azam Siddiqui, Suborto

> Ghosh, Pablo (the common names, I see on aapn) shall come forward and

> raise

> these issues in a strong and meaning full way, please.

>

> Regards

> Dr. SK Mittal

>

> On Jan 9, 2008 3:27 PM, AZAM SIDDIQUI

<azam24x7<azam24x7%40gmail.com>>

> wrote:

>

> > Link:

> >

> >

>

http://www.ndtv.com/convergence/ndtv/story.aspx?id=NEWEN20080038093 & ch=1/9/2008%\

209:22:00%20AM

> >

> > *SC to decide on jallikattu in Tamil Nadu*

> > Sanjay Pinto

> >

> > Wednesday, January 9, 2008 (Madurai)

> > It is the 'jallikattu' season in Tamil Nadu, in the run up to the

> harvest

> > festival. But there is no preparation only tension and anxiety.

> >

> > In a few days, the Supreme Court will decide whether to allow this game

> of

> > taming of an aggressive bull to take place in rural Madurai.

> >

> > It is an annual event that is said to date back to the 3rd century

> during

> > the Pandya rule, which is well before Spain's bull-fight evolved.

> >

> > In Alanganallur, one of the main venues, people say breaking this

> > tradition

> > will not augur well for their villages.

> >

> > ''If the Jallikattu is not held, this village will have difficult times,

> > disease and so on,'' said local resident.

> >

> > This State government backed sport draws many foreign tourists. But

> animal

> > rights activists have for long called for a ban due to cruelty to bulls

> > and

> > deaths of many young men.

> >

> > ''Bulls will gore and people will get injured. You just can't help

> that,''

> > said another resident.

> >

> > Last year, the Madras High Court allowed the event to take place. But it

> > imposed certain conditions like double barricading to prevent the bulls

> > from

> > running through the crowd of spectators, putting bulls through drug and

> > alcohol tests and stationing ambulances and mobile medical teams at the

> > venues.

> >

> > Government says that the measures ensured that there was no cruelty to

> the

> > bulls and no deaths but only injuries caused to the tamers at the main

> > venues.

> >

> > ''If the conditions are strictly adhered to, it will be incident free,''

> > said L KTripathy, Chief Secretary, Tamil Nadu.

> >

> > That is a line activists are not willing to buy. So they asked the

> Supreme

> > Court to decide whether this is a game of valour or cruelty.

> >

> > --

> > United against elephant polo

> > http://www.stopelephantpolo.com

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

Dear Dr. Mittal,

 

Appreciate your concern and views on the above subject, but I think it would

be unfair to raise the 'MANY' issues for debate on this post of Jallikattu

or Bull fights.

One reason that animal rights is not progressing in India is because we want

all issues to be addressed and talked about at one time instead of a macro

approach towards each.

 

Also matters such as " Grant from AWBI & donation money spent on dog Birth

Control. & quantum of implementation of ABC DOG RULES " should be directed to

NGOs, and agencies or individuals who matter.

I do not think either Pablo, or I qualify to comment on these

matters.

We are individuals who contribute to animal welfare in our own capacity and

self fund our activities to the extent we can afford, yes of course members

of some animal welfare organsiations but that does not permit us or make us

eligible to comment on these.

I have neither applied for any grant to AWBI or any Organisation, nor do I

have any interest in who applies, who gets, who does not....blah blah.

It is only the organisations who are accredited by AWBI that this issue should

be directed at.

I am least bothered about funds. My only concern is the suffering of an

animal and not of the person or the organisation which perhaps works for

animal welfare and is entangled in the web of fundings from any agency/

board/ government whatsoever.

There are redressal forums and other platforms where such grievances can be

heard by qualified and professional people, and if there are any

irregularities they can be sorted out.

 

The only alliance I have with the AWBI is that of a qualified Master Trainer in

Animal Welfare as of 2001.

 

Also Dr. Mittal I agree to what one of our member ( from a store ) writes

when he challenges the declaring of Eid sacrifice as void and illegal.

As far as I know in the state of Assam where I live there is an Assam Cattle

Preservation Act where it has been categorically stated that 4 (four)

animals viz: Bull, Buffalo, Goat (fourth one I forget) can be slaughtered for

the festival of Eid.

I would be the happiest person if you can help me with any new rule or law that

prohibits animal sacrifice for Eid or any festival in India.

 

Regards,

 

Azam

 

On Jan 9, 2008 11:30 PM, MITTAL SK <awbikk wrote:

 

> Certainly it is matter of concern and shall be dealt according to law of

> land. Honorable Supreme Court is examining the issue and hope to do the

> Justice to animals and stop cruelty.

> This issue raises many other issues also and I will like to attract the

> attention of all concerned and particularly AAPN fellow members.

>

> 1. Sacrifice on Bakr Id day which has already been declared void and

> illegal but whole country witnesses the same.

> 2. Illegal and most cruel transportation of animals in whole country

> 3. Unauthorized, illegal slaughter houses engaged apart from illegal

> activities and providing unhygienic meat , Beef, pork for human

> consumption .

>

> There is no Data collection on national level about DOG CENSUS, amount

> spent by Civic authorities, Foreign contributions to awos Grant from AWBI

> & donation money spent on dog Birth Control. & quantum of implementation

> of ABC DOG RULES .

> Like 'jallikattu' this issue has also become two sided. One side AWOs are

> crying for stopping the cruelty on Dogs and on the other side public is

> crying against Dog menace. Though authontic datas are not available BUT

> estimated cumulative national figure of money spent by Civic bodies crosses

> RS. 100-150 Crores / year. apart from other sources.

>

> I request to Learned Indian Animal lovers like Mr. Azam Siddiqui, Suborto

> Ghosh, Pablo (the common names, I see on aapn) shall come forward and raise

> these issues in a strong and meaning full way, please.

>

> Regards

> Dr. SK Mittal

>

>

> On Jan 9, 2008 3:27 PM, AZAM SIDDIQUI <azam24x7 wrote:

>

> > Link:

> >

http://www.ndtv.com/convergence/ndtv/story.aspx?id=NEWEN20080038093 & ch=1/9/2008%\

209:22:00%20AM

> >

> >

> > *SC to decide on jallikattu in Tamil Nadu*

> > Sanjay Pinto

> >

> > Wednesday, January 9, 2008 (Madurai)

> > It is the 'jallikattu' season in Tamil Nadu, in the run up to the

> > harvest

> > festival. But there is no preparation only tension and anxiety.

> >

> > In a few days, the Supreme Court will decide whether to allow this game

> > of

> > taming of an aggressive bull to take place in rural Madurai.

> >

> > It is an annual event that is said to date back to the 3rd century

> > during

> > the Pandya rule, which is well before Spain's bull-fight evolved.

> >

> > In Alanganallur, one of the main venues, people say breaking this

> > tradition

> > will not augur well for their villages.

> >

> > ''If the Jallikattu is not held, this village will have difficult times,

> > disease and so on,'' said local resident.

> >

> > This State government backed sport draws many foreign tourists. But

> > animal

> > rights activists have for long called for a ban due to cruelty to bulls

> > and

> > deaths of many young men.

> >

> > ''Bulls will gore and people will get injured. You just can't help

> > that,''

> > said another resident.

> >

> > Last year, the Madras High Court allowed the event to take place. But it

> > imposed certain conditions like double barricading to prevent the bulls

> > from

> > running through the crowd of spectators, putting bulls through drug and

> > alcohol tests and stationing ambulances and mobile medical teams at the

> > venues.

> >

> > Government says that the measures ensured that there was no cruelty to

> > the

> > bulls and no deaths but only injuries caused to the tamers at the main

> > venues.

> >

> > ''If the conditions are strictly adhered to, it will be incident free,''

> > said L KTripathy, Chief Secretary, Tamil Nadu.

> >

> > That is a line activists are not willing to buy. So they asked the

> > Supreme

> > Court to decide whether this is a game of valour or cruelty.

> >

> > --

> > United against elephant polo

> > http://www.stopelephantpolo.com

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

Thanks to Mr. D'souza for his questions. I refer to Hon'ble Supreme court's

Judgement as under

 

*Honorable Indian Legislature did their job by enacting Act & Rules on

prohibition on Slaughter, restriction on transportation, Prevention on

Sacrifice and Supreme Court of India in its famous Judgment in Ashutosh

Lahri V/S W. Bengal & others even in upheld No cow sacrifice on Bakar id day

and directed the Governments to stop this heinous, most cruel crime*

 

*Bakar idd is fast approaching & will be celebrated on 17th December,

07.*We have no other door except yours, to knock, and request for

directions to

the Government heartedly. Copy of Inspection Report made on the Directions

of Honorable Supreme Court of India, is attached, which is self explanatory.

**

*Constitution Bench consisting of 7 Honorable Judges of Honorable Supreme

Court of India lead by Chief Justice RC Lahoti * in* its *ORDER ON COW

SLAUGHTER CASE NO.: Appeal (civil)4937-4940 of 1998 Dated 26/10/2005

discussed the Scenario at length and after addressing all relevant issues

and objections,* up held the complete ban on slaughter of Cow & its progeny

even on Bakar id day. *

*Regarding 2nd issue, I have requested only to start dialog and my these

friends are very regularly posting wonderful messages So the request*

*You can also do the needful please.*

*Regards*

 

**

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

On Jan 10, 2008 2:07 PM, aapn store <aapnstore wrote:

 

> I would be thankful if Mr. Mittle could please let us know from when the

> sacrifice on Bakr Id day has been declared " void and illegal " . As a

> responsible member of the Animal Welfare Board of India, he should not

> make

> misleading and wrong statements like this.

>

> Likewise, he should be able to provide the information on the dog census

> and

> ABC operations - why is he asking Pablo, Shubhoroto and Azam to do this?

>

> A. D'Souza

>

>

> On 1/9/08, MITTAL SK <awbikk <awbikk%40gmail.com>> wrote:

> >

> > Certainly it is matter of concern and shall be dealt according to law of

> > land. Honorable Supreme Court is examining the issue and hope to do the

> > Justice to animals and stop cruelty.

> > This issue raises many other issues also and I will like to attract the

> > attention of all concerned and particularly AAPN fellow members.

> >

> > 1. Sacrifice on Bakr Id day which has already been declared void and

> > illegal

> > but whole country witnesses the same.

> > 2. Illegal and most cruel transportation of animals in whole country

> > 3. Unauthorized, illegal slaughter houses engaged apart from illegal

> > activities and providing unhygienic meat , Beef, pork for human

> > consumption .

> >

> > There is no Data collection on national level about DOG CENSUS, amount

> > spent

> > by Civic authorities, Foreign contributions to awos Grant from AWBI &

> > donation money spent on dog Birth Control. & quantum of implementation

> of

> > ABC DOG RULES .

> > Like 'jallikattu' this issue has also become two sided. One side AWOs

> are

> > crying for stopping the cruelty on Dogs and on the other side public is

> > crying against Dog menace. Though authontic datas are not available BUT

> > estimated cumulative national figure of money spent by Civic bodies

> > crosses

> > RS. 100-150 Crores / year. apart from other sources.

> >

> > I request to Learned Indian Animal lovers like Mr. Azam Siddiqui,

> Suborto

> > Ghosh, Pablo (the common names, I see on aapn) shall come forward and

> > raise

> > these issues in a strong and meaning full way, please.

> >

> > Regards

> > Dr. SK Mittal

> >

> > On Jan 9, 2008 3:27 PM, AZAM SIDDIQUI

<azam24x7<azam24x7%40gmail.com><azam24x7%40gmail.com>>

>

>

> > wrote:

> >

> > > Link:

> > >

> > >

> >

>

http://www.ndtv.com/convergence/ndtv/story.aspx?id=NEWEN20080038093 & ch=1/9/2008%\

209:22:00%20AM

> > >

> > > *SC to decide on jallikattu in Tamil Nadu*

> > > Sanjay Pinto

> > >

> > > Wednesday, January 9, 2008 (Madurai)

> > > It is the 'jallikattu' season in Tamil Nadu, in the run up to the

> > harvest

> > > festival. But there is no preparation only tension and anxiety.

> > >

> > > In a few days, the Supreme Court will decide whether to allow this

> game

> > of

> > > taming of an aggressive bull to take place in rural Madurai.

> > >

> > > It is an annual event that is said to date back to the 3rd century

> > during

> > > the Pandya rule, which is well before Spain's bull-fight evolved.

> > >

> > > In Alanganallur, one of the main venues, people say breaking this

> > > tradition

> > > will not augur well for their villages.

> > >

> > > ''If the Jallikattu is not held, this village will have difficult

> times,

> > > disease and so on,'' said local resident.

> > >

> > > This State government backed sport draws many foreign tourists. But

> > animal

> > > rights activists have for long called for a ban due to cruelty to

> bulls

> > > and

> > > deaths of many young men.

> > >

> > > ''Bulls will gore and people will get injured. You just can't help

> > that,''

> > > said another resident.

> > >

> > > Last year, the Madras High Court allowed the event to take place. But

> it

> > > imposed certain conditions like double barricading to prevent the

> bulls

> > > from

> > > running through the crowd of spectators, putting bulls through drug

> and

> > > alcohol tests and stationing ambulances and mobile medical teams at

> the

> > > venues.

> > >

> > > Government says that the measures ensured that there was no cruelty to

> > the

> > > bulls and no deaths but only injuries caused to the tamers at the main

> > > venues.

> > >

> > > ''If the conditions are strictly adhered to, it will be incident

> free,''

> > > said L KTripathy, Chief Secretary, Tamil Nadu.

> > >

> > > That is a line activists are not willing to buy. So they asked the

> > Supreme

> > > Court to decide whether this is a game of valour or cruelty.

> > >

> > > --

> > > United against elephant polo

> > > http://www.stopelephantpolo.com

> > >

> > >

[Guest guest]

>1. Sacrifice on Bakr Id day which has already been declared void and

illegal but whole country witnesses the same.<

 

I am still not convinced to believe the above statement Dr. Mittal, please

explain does only the 'COW' stand to gain by the order, at least that is what I

can understand by your latest post.

 

In that case Bulls, buffalo, goat, sheep, camels, ducks, poultry etc are still

considered OK for sacrifices on Bakr Eid or the other festivals in India.

 

Therefore it is clear that Bakr Eid or any Temple sacrifice in India is not

'illegal' or 'void' provided it uses the above animals minus the 'COW'.

 

Sad :-(

 

Azam

 

 

 

 

 

 

On Jan 10, 2008 4:36 PM, MITTAL SK <awbikk wrote:

 

> Thanks to Mr. D'souza for his questions. I refer to Hon'ble Supreme

> court's

> Judgement as under

>

> *Honorable Indian Legislature did their job by enacting Act & Rules on

> prohibition on Slaughter, restriction on transportation, Prevention on

> Sacrifice and Supreme Court of India in its famous Judgment in Ashutosh

> Lahri V/S W. Bengal & others even in upheld No cow sacrifice on Bakar id

> day

> and directed the Governments to stop this heinous, most cruel crime*

>

> *Bakar idd is fast approaching & will be celebrated on 17th December,

> 07.*We have no other door except yours, to knock, and request for

> directions to

> the Government heartedly. Copy of Inspection Report made on the Directions

> of Honorable Supreme Court of India, is attached, which is self

> explanatory.

> **

> *Constitution Bench consisting of 7 Honorable Judges of Honorable Supreme

> Court of India lead by Chief Justice RC Lahoti * in* its *ORDER ON COW

> SLAUGHTER CASE NO.: Appeal (civil)4937-4940 of 1998 Dated 26/10/2005

> discussed the Scenario at length and after addressing all relevant issues

> and objections,* up held the complete ban on slaughter of Cow & its

> progeny

> even on Bakar id day. *

> *Regarding 2nd issue, I have requested only to start dialog and my these

> friends are very regularly posting wonderful messages So the request*

> *You can also do the needful please.*

> *Regards*

>

> **

>

> On Jan 10, 2008 2:07 PM, aapn store

<aapnstore<aapnstore%40gmail.com>>

> wrote:

>

> > I would be thankful if Mr. Mittle could please let us know from when the

> > sacrifice on Bakr Id day has been declared " void and illegal " . As a

> > responsible member of the Animal Welfare Board of India, he should not

> > make

> > misleading and wrong statements like this.

> >

> > Likewise, he should be able to provide the information on the dog census

> > and

> > ABC operations - why is he asking Pablo, Shubhoroto and Azam to do this?

> >

> > A. D'Souza

> >

> >

> > On 1/9/08, MITTAL SK <awbikk

<awbikk%40gmail.com><awbikk%40gmail.com>> wrote:

> > >

> > > Certainly it is matter of concern and shall be dealt according to law

> of

> > > land. Honorable Supreme Court is examining the issue and hope to do

> the

> > > Justice to animals and stop cruelty.

> > > This issue raises many other issues also and I will like to attract

> the

> > > attention of all concerned and particularly AAPN fellow members.

> > >

> > > 1. Sacrifice on Bakr Id day which has already been declared void and

> > > illegal

> > > but whole country witnesses the same.

> > > 2. Illegal and most cruel transportation of animals in whole country

> > > 3. Unauthorized, illegal slaughter houses engaged apart from illegal

> > > activities and providing unhygienic meat , Beef, pork for human

> > > consumption .

> > >

> > > There is no Data collection on national level about DOG CENSUS, amount

> > > spent

> > > by Civic authorities, Foreign contributions to awos Grant from AWBI &

> > > donation money spent on dog Birth Control. & quantum of implementation

> > of

> > > ABC DOG RULES .

> > > Like 'jallikattu' this issue has also become two sided. One side AWOs

> > are

> > > crying for stopping the cruelty on Dogs and on the other side public

> is

> > > crying against Dog menace. Though authontic datas are not available

> BUT

> > > estimated cumulative national figure of money spent by Civic bodies

> > > crosses

> > > RS. 100-150 Crores / year. apart from other sources.

> > >

> > > I request to Learned Indian Animal lovers like Mr. Azam Siddiqui,

> > Suborto

> > > Ghosh, Pablo (the common names, I see on aapn) shall come forward and

> > > raise

> > > these issues in a strong and meaning full way, please.

> > >

> > > Regards

> > > Dr. SK Mittal

> > >

> > > On Jan 9, 2008 3:27 PM, AZAM SIDDIQUI

<azam24x7<azam24x7%40gmail.com><azam24x7%40gmail.com><azam24x7%40gmail\

..com>>

>

>

> >

> >

> > > wrote:

> > >

> > > > Link:

> > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

http://www.ndtv.com/convergence/ndtv/story.aspx?id=NEWEN20080038093 & ch=1/9/2008%\

209:22:00%20AM

> > > >

> > > > *SC to decide on jallikattu in Tamil Nadu*

> > > > Sanjay Pinto

> > > >

> > > > Wednesday, January 9, 2008 (Madurai)

> > > > It is the 'jallikattu' season in Tamil Nadu, in the run up to the

> > > harvest

> > > > festival. But there is no preparation only tension and anxiety.

> > > >

> > > > In a few days, the Supreme Court will decide whether to allow this

> > game

> > > of

> > > > taming of an aggressive bull to take place in rural Madurai.

> > > >

> > > > It is an annual event that is said to date back to the 3rd century

> > > during

> > > > the Pandya rule, which is well before Spain's bull-fight evolved.

> > > >

> > > > In Alanganallur, one of the main venues, people say breaking this

> > > > tradition

> > > > will not augur well for their villages.

> > > >

> > > > ''If the Jallikattu is not held, this village will have difficult

> > times,

> > > > disease and so on,'' said local resident.

> > > >

> > > > This State government backed sport draws many foreign tourists. But

> > > animal

> > > > rights activists have for long called for a ban due to cruelty to

> > bulls

> > > > and

> > > > deaths of many young men.

> > > >

> > > > ''Bulls will gore and people will get injured. You just can't help

> > > that,''

> > > > said another resident.

> > > >

> > > > Last year, the Madras High Court allowed the event to take place.

> But

> > it

> > > > imposed certain conditions like double barricading to prevent the

> > bulls

> > > > from

> > > > running through the crowd of spectators, putting bulls through drug

> > and

> > > > alcohol tests and stationing ambulances and mobile medical teams at

> > the

> > > > venues.

> > > >

> > > > Government says that the measures ensured that there was no cruelty

> to

> > > the

> > > > bulls and no deaths but only injuries caused to the tamers at the

> main

> > > > venues.

> > > >

> > > > ''If the conditions are strictly adhered to, it will be incident

> > free,''

> > > > said L KTripathy, Chief Secretary, Tamil Nadu.

> > > >

> > > > That is a line activists are not willing to buy. So they asked the

> > > Supreme

> > > > Court to decide whether this is a game of valour or cruelty.

> > > >

> > > > --

> > > > United against elephant polo

> > > > http://www.stopelephantpolo.com

> > > >

> > > >

[Guest guest]

The Supreme Court has given its interim order declaring jallikattu as

" barbaric " and a clear case of cruelty to anmimals.

 

In the meantime, it is reliably learnt that Mr. S. K. Mittle has been

removed from the Animal Welfare Board of India over a month ago and it is

indeed surprising that he uses an awbi e-mail id to give a wrong impression

of his being on the Board.

 

It is also surprising that he can make ridiculous claims about sacrifice

being banned by the Supreme Court. Not only is sacrifice on Eid not banned,

but the Government of India give a public holiday to encourage the

slaughter!

 

Regarding the utilisation of " foreign " donations and grants for dog

programs, does Mittle expect the grants to be used only by the cow

protection societies he is connected with? Thes are only dairy farms

masquerading as cow protection societies and, if I may be allowed a pun,

milking the AWBI for all it is worth. Over Rs.3 million was sanctioned to

groups in Karnataka with which Mittle is involved and these demand drafts

were held back because some of these groups were not even recognised by the

AWBI.

 

Please ask Mittle to see the beam in his eye before seeing the mote in

others'.

 

A. D'Souza

 

 

On 1/10/08, MITTAL SK <awbikk wrote:

>

> Thanks to Mr. D'souza for his questions. I refer to Hon'ble Supreme

> court's Judgement as under

>

> *Honorable Indian Legislature did their job by enacting Act & Rules on

> prohibition on Slaughter, restriction on transportation, Prevention on

> Sacrifice and Supreme Court of India in its famous Judgment in Ashutosh

> Lahri V/S W. Bengal & others even in upheld No cow sacrifice on Bakar id day

> and directed the Governments to stop this heinous, most cruel crime *

>

> *Bakar idd is fast approaching & will be celebrated on 17th December, 07.*We

have no other door except yours, to knock, and request for directions to

> the Government heartedly. Copy of Inspection Report made on the Directions

> of Honorable Supreme Court of India, is attached, which is self explanatory.

> **

> *Constitution Bench consisting of 7 Honorable Judges of Honorable Supreme

> Court of India lead by Chief Justice RC Lahoti * in* its *ORDER ON COW

> SLAUGHTER CASE NO.: Appeal (civil)4937-4940 of 1998 Dated 26/10/2005

> discussed the Scenario at length and after addressing all relevant issues

> and objections, *up held the complete ban on slaughter of Cow & its

> progeny even on Bakar id day. *

> *Regarding 2nd issue, I have requested only to start dialog and my these

> friends are very regularly posting wonderful messages So the request *

> *You can also do the needful please.*

> *Regards*

>

> **

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

On Jan 10, 2008 2:07 PM, aapn store <aapnstore wrote:

>

> > I would be thankful if Mr. Mittle could please let us know from when

> > the

> > sacrifice on Bakr Id day has been declared " void and illegal " . As a

> > responsible member of the Animal Welfare Board of India, he should not

> > make

> > misleading and wrong statements like this.

> >

> > Likewise, he should be able to provide the information on the dog census

> > and

> > ABC operations - why is he asking Pablo, Shubhoroto and Azam to do this?

> >

> > A. D'Souza

> >

> >

> > On 1/9/08, MITTAL SK <awbikk <awbikk%40gmail.com>> wrote:

> > >

> > > Certainly it is matter of concern and shall be dealt according to law

> > of

> > > land. Honorable Supreme Court is examining the issue and hope to do

> > the

> > > Justice to animals and stop cruelty.

> > > This issue raises many other issues also and I will like to attract

> > the

> > > attention of all concerned and particularly AAPN fellow members.

> > >

> > > 1. Sacrifice on Bakr Id day which has already been declared void and

> > > illegal

> > > but whole country witnesses the same.

> > > 2. Illegal and most cruel transportation of animals in whole country

> > > 3. Unauthorized, illegal slaughter houses engaged apart from illegal

> > > activities and providing unhygienic meat , Beef, pork for human

> > > consumption .

> > >

> > > There is no Data collection on national level about DOG CENSUS, amount

> >

> > > spent

> > > by Civic authorities, Foreign contributions to awos Grant from AWBI &

> > > donation money spent on dog Birth Control. & quantum of implementation

> > of

> > > ABC DOG RULES .

> > > Like 'jallikattu' this issue has also become two sided. One side AWOs

> > are

> > > crying for stopping the cruelty on Dogs and on the other side public

> > is

> > > crying against Dog menace. Though authontic datas are not available

> > BUT

> > > estimated cumulative national figure of money spent by Civic bodies

> > > crosses

> > > RS. 100-150 Crores / year. apart from other sources.

> > >

> > > I request to Learned Indian Animal lovers like Mr. Azam Siddiqui,

> > Suborto

> > > Ghosh, Pablo (the common names, I see on aapn) shall come forward and

> > > raise

> > > these issues in a strong and meaning full way, please.

> > >

> > > Regards

> > > Dr. SK Mittal

> > >

> >

> > > On Jan 9, 2008 3:27 PM, AZAM SIDDIQUI <

azam24x7<azam24x7%40gmail.com><azam24x7%40gmail.com>>

> >

> >

> > > wrote:

> > >

> > > > Link:

> > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

http://www.ndtv.com/convergence/ndtv/story.aspx?id=NEWEN20080038093 & ch=1/9/2008%\

209:22:00%20AM

> > > >

> > > > *SC to decide on jallikattu in Tamil Nadu*

> > > > Sanjay Pinto

> > > >

> > > > Wednesday, January 9, 2008 (Madurai)

> > > > It is the 'jallikattu' season in Tamil Nadu, in the run up to the

> > > harvest

> > > > festival. But there is no preparation only tension and anxiety.

> > > >

> > > > In a few days, the Supreme Court will decide whether to allow this

> > game

> > > of

> > > > taming of an aggressive bull to take place in rural Madurai.

> > > >

> > > > It is an annual event that is said to date back to the 3rd century

> > > during

> > > > the Pandya rule, which is well before Spain's bull-fight evolved.

> > > >

> > > > In Alanganallur, one of the main venues, people say breaking this

> > > > tradition

> > > > will not augur well for their villages.

> > > >

> > > > ''If the Jallikattu is not held, this village will have difficult

> > times,

> > > > disease and so on,'' said local resident.

> > > >

> > > > This State government backed sport draws many foreign tourists. But

> > > animal

> > > > rights activists have for long called for a ban due to cruelty to

> > bulls

> > > > and

> > > > deaths of many young men.

> > > >

> > > > ''Bulls will gore and people will get injured. You just can't help

> > > that,''

> > > > said another resident.

> > > >

> > > > Last year, the Madras High Court allowed the event to take place.

> > But it

> > > > imposed certain conditions like double barricading to prevent the

> > bulls

> > > > from

> > > > running through the crowd of spectators, putting bulls through drug

> > and

> > > > alcohol tests and stationing ambulances and mobile medical teams at

> > the

> > > > venues.

> > > >

> > > > Government says that the measures ensured that there was no cruelty

> > to

> > > the

> > > > bulls and no deaths but only injuries caused to the tamers at the

> > main

> > > > venues.

> > > >

> > > > ''If the conditions are strictly adhered to, it will be incident

> > free,''

> > > > said L KTripathy, Chief Secretary, Tamil Nadu.

> > > >

> > > > That is a line activists are not willing to buy. So they asked the

> > > Supreme

> > > > Court to decide whether this is a game of valour or cruelty.

> > > >

> > > > --

> > > > United against elephant polo

> > > > http://www.stopelephantpolo.com

> > > >

> > > >

[Guest guest]

>Government of India give a public holiday to encourage the

slaughter!<

 

 

 

Well Eid holiday in India is not given exclusively for 'slaughter/

sacrifice' purpose but because of the fact that it is the PRIME festival of

Muslims, followers of Islam, so that people (like me) can go and offer

prayers (namaaz) and socialize and not as you have conceptualized.

Sir, you have a very poor knowledge of the religion dos and donts I must

say.

 

If I am not mistaken the holiday of X-Mas (Christmas) is also used by

millions of humans to kill.

 

Does that mean that the holiday is exclusively granted in the nation so that

the followers of Christianity can only practice slaughter/ sacrifice?

 

Sorry, I do not buy that logic.

 

Regards,

 

Azam

 

 

 

On Jan 11, 2008 5:49 PM, aapn store <aapnstore wrote:

 

> The Supreme Court has given its interim order declaring jallikattu as

> " barbaric " and a clear case of cruelty to anmimals.

>

> In the meantime, it is reliably learnt that Mr. S. K. Mittle has been

> removed from the Animal Welfare Board of India over a month ago and it is

> indeed surprising that he uses an awbi e-mail id to give a wrong

> impression

> of his being on the Board.

>

> It is also surprising that he can make ridiculous claims about sacrifice

> being banned by the Supreme Court. Not only is sacrifice on Eid not

> banned,

> but the Government of India give a public holiday to encourage the

> slaughter!

>

> Regarding the utilisation of " foreign " donations and grants for dog

> programs, does Mittle expect the grants to be used only by the cow

> protection societies he is connected with? Thes are only dairy farms

> masquerading as cow protection societies and, if I may be allowed a pun,

> milking the AWBI for all it is worth. Over Rs.3 million was sanctioned to

> groups in Karnataka with which Mittle is involved and these demand drafts

> were held back because some of these groups were not even recognised by

> the

> AWBI.

>

> Please ask Mittle to see the beam in his eye before seeing the mote in

> others'.

>

> A. D'Souza

>

>

> On 1/10/08, MITTAL SK <awbikk <awbikk%40gmail.com>> wrote:

> >

> > Thanks to Mr. D'souza for his questions. I refer to Hon'ble Supreme

> > court's Judgement as under

> >

> > *Honorable Indian Legislature did their job by enacting Act & Rules on

> > prohibition on Slaughter, restriction on transportation, Prevention on

> > Sacrifice and Supreme Court of India in its famous Judgment in Ashutosh

> > Lahri V/S W. Bengal & others even in upheld No cow sacrifice on Bakar id

> day

> > and directed the Governments to stop this heinous, most cruel crime *

> >

> > *Bakar idd is fast approaching & will be celebrated on 17th December,

> 07.*We have no other door except yours, to knock, and request for directions

> to

> > the Government heartedly. Copy of Inspection Report made on the

> Directions

> > of Honorable Supreme Court of India, is attached, which is self

> explanatory.

> > **

> > *Constitution Bench consisting of 7 Honorable Judges of Honorable

> Supreme

> > Court of India lead by Chief Justice RC Lahoti * in* its *ORDER ON COW

> > SLAUGHTER CASE NO.: Appeal (civil)4937-4940 of 1998 Dated 26/10/2005

> > discussed the Scenario at length and after addressing all relevant

> issues

> > and objections, *up held the complete ban on slaughter of Cow & its

> > progeny even on Bakar id day. *

> > *Regarding 2nd issue, I have requested only to start dialog and my these

> > friends are very regularly posting wonderful messages So the request *

> > *You can also do the needful please.*

> > *Regards*

> >

> > **

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > On Jan 10, 2008 2:07 PM, aapn store

<aapnstore<aapnstore%40gmail.com>>

> wrote:

> >

> > > I would be thankful if Mr. Mittle could please let us know from when

> > > the

> > > sacrifice on Bakr Id day has been declared " void and illegal " . As a

> > > responsible member of the Animal Welfare Board of India, he should not

> > > make

> > > misleading and wrong statements like this.

> > >

> > > Likewise, he should be able to provide the information on the dog

> census

> > > and

> > > ABC operations - why is he asking Pablo, Shubhoroto and Azam to do

> this?

> > >

> > > A. D'Souza

> > >

> > >

> > > On 1/9/08, MITTAL SK <awbikk

<awbikk%40gmail.com><awbikk%40gmail.com>> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Certainly it is matter of concern and shall be dealt according to

> law

> > > of

> > > > land. Honorable Supreme Court is examining the issue and hope to do

> > > the

> > > > Justice to animals and stop cruelty.

> > > > This issue raises many other issues also and I will like to attract

> > > the

> > > > attention of all concerned and particularly AAPN fellow members.

> > > >

> > > > 1. Sacrifice on Bakr Id day which has already been declared void and

> > > > illegal

> > > > but whole country witnesses the same.

> > > > 2. Illegal and most cruel transportation of animals in whole country

> > > > 3. Unauthorized, illegal slaughter houses engaged apart from illegal

> > > > activities and providing unhygienic meat , Beef, pork for human

> > > > consumption .

> > > >

> > > > There is no Data collection on national level about DOG CENSUS,

> amount

> > >

> > > > spent

> > > > by Civic authorities, Foreign contributions to awos Grant from AWBI

> &

> > > > donation money spent on dog Birth Control. & quantum of

> implementation

> > > of

> > > > ABC DOG RULES .

> > > > Like 'jallikattu' this issue has also become two sided. One side

> AWOs

> > > are

> > > > crying for stopping the cruelty on Dogs and on the other side public

> > > is

> > > > crying against Dog menace. Though authontic datas are not available

> > > BUT

> > > > estimated cumulative national figure of money spent by Civic bodies

> > > > crosses

> > > > RS. 100-150 Crores / year. apart from other sources.

> > > >

> > > > I request to Learned Indian Animal lovers like Mr. Azam Siddiqui,

> > > Suborto

> > > > Ghosh, Pablo (the common names, I see on aapn) shall come forward

> and

> > > > raise

> > > > these issues in a strong and meaning full way, please.

> > > >

> > > > Regards

> > > > Dr. SK Mittal

> > > >

> > >

> > > > On Jan 9, 2008 3:27 PM, AZAM SIDDIQUI <

azam24x7<azam24x7%40gmail.com>

> <azam24x7%40gmail.com><azam24x7%40gmail.com>>

> > >

> > >

> > > > wrote:

> > > >

> > > > > Link:

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

>

http://www.ndtv.com/convergence/ndtv/story.aspx?id=NEWEN20080038093 & ch=1/9/2008%\

209:22:00%20AM

> > > > >

> > > > > *SC to decide on jallikattu in Tamil Nadu*

> > > > > Sanjay Pinto

> > > > >

> > > > > Wednesday, January 9, 2008 (Madurai)

> > > > > It is the 'jallikattu' season in Tamil Nadu, in the run up to the

> > > > harvest

> > > > > festival. But there is no preparation only tension and anxiety.

> > > > >

> > > > > In a few days, the Supreme Court will decide whether to allow this

> > > game

> > > > of

> > > > > taming of an aggressive bull to take place in rural Madurai.

> > > > >

> > > > > It is an annual event that is said to date back to the 3rd century

> > > > during

> > > > > the Pandya rule, which is well before Spain's bull-fight evolved.

> > > > >

> > > > > In Alanganallur, one of the main venues, people say breaking this

> > > > > tradition

> > > > > will not augur well for their villages.

> > > > >

> > > > > ''If the Jallikattu is not held, this village will have difficult

> > > times,

> > > > > disease and so on,'' said local resident.

> > > > >

> > > > > This State government backed sport draws many foreign tourists.

> But

> > > > animal

> > > > > rights activists have for long called for a ban due to cruelty to

> > > bulls

> > > > > and

> > > > > deaths of many young men.

> > > > >

> > > > > ''Bulls will gore and people will get injured. You just can't help

> > > > that,''

> > > > > said another resident.

> > > > >

> > > > > Last year, the Madras High Court allowed the event to take place.

> > > But it

> > > > > imposed certain conditions like double barricading to prevent the

> > > bulls

> > > > > from

> > > > > running through the crowd of spectators, putting bulls through

> drug

> > > and

> > > > > alcohol tests and stationing ambulances and mobile medical teams

> at

> > > the

> > > > > venues.

> > > > >

> > > > > Government says that the measures ensured that there was no

> cruelty

> > > to

> > > > the

> > > > > bulls and no deaths but only injuries caused to the tamers at the

> > > main

> > > > > venues.

> > > > >

> > > > > ''If the conditions are strictly adhered to, it will be incident

> > > free,''

> > > > > said L KTripathy, Chief Secretary, Tamil Nadu.

> > > > >

> > > > > That is a line activists are not willing to buy. So they asked the

> > > > Supreme

> > > > > Court to decide whether this is a game of valour or cruelty.

> > > > >

> > > > > --

> > > > > United against elephant polo

> > > > > http://www.stopelephantpolo.com

> > > > >

> > > > >