Guest guest Posted March 11, 2008 Report Posted March 11, 2008 11th of March, 2008. To: Edwin Weik Wildlife Friends of Thailand. Hello Edwin, and Wildlife Friends of Thailand! This is my second e-mail to you. I submitted this message previously to you on 07/03/2008, and have not received a reply as yet. Perhaps my previous e-mail got overlooked. I think your assumption is correct. The animals I saw in Pattaya do resemble the Slow Loris which you have alluded to. Please excuse my apparent lack of zoological expertise. I would describe the animal I saw as being small, with very large eyes; and the movements of its limbs were quite slow. It 's small human-like 'hand' tenderley reached out to me with the most kindest and gentlest grasp of my finger. At that moment, I instantly felt so sorry for this poor creature's plight you would not believe. Whenever tourists photographed the animal it's head slowly recoiled, arching way back, at the brightness of the flash. This torment occurred repeatedly. I think I also recall the animal I saw having a patch of its fur missing from its body from some form of injury. A hill-tribe-lady and her partner had possession of a couple of these Loris animals at the time. Is it possible that the Slow Loris and it's partner could be rescued and returned to the wild? It is not in the animals' welfare/ interests to be exploited like that in Pattaya, amidst hordes of cigarrette smoking, drunken tourists; they are in constant danger of being seriously harmed. i.e dropped onto the concrete road. Edwin, you represent 'Wildlife Friends of Thailand'. Do you think either yourself or someone from your organization can physically attend at Walking Street, Pattaya, and rescue these animals, and return them to the wild? By asking/questioning local persons in the vicinity of Walking Street, you would quickly locate these creatures and their captors. Otherwise take a stroll down Walking Street, at about midnight, and I'm sure you will locate them quite easily. The owners of the Loris' appeared to be not so financially well-off. I am of the opinion that perhaps they would accept some monetary offer to hand the creatures over to you. Also maybe these persons are in possession of more Loris's than just the two I observed. I don't know what the best rescue strategy is. But I'm hoping that you and your organization can think of something to safely secure the Loris' and return them to their native habitat. I would be most interested to hear from you about any action that is taken which will lead to the saving, rehabilitation and release of these wonderful creatures. I look forward to hearing from you and Wildlife Friends of Thailand , soon. Best Wishes and Regards, Frank P.S. Regarding your questions in your previous e-mail: The Tarsier pictures are not taken in Pattaya.. I obtained them from the the site: http://curiousanimals.net/funnies-bunnies/tarsiers-freedom-forever/ whose address I supplied in my initial e-mail to you. The photos were used as an identification/visual aid in an effort to describe the creature that I saw in my alert email to readers at the aapn forum. Looks like the animals concerned in this particular instance (Pattaya) are now most probably abused Loris'. Nevertheless...their rescue is waiting... --\ ------ Edwin Wiek <edwin.wiek Frank Malecki <citizenwatch299 Cc: Guna Subramaniam/ CWI <guna; Ulrike Streicher <uli Wednesday, 5 March, 2008 10:30:36 PM RE: Exploitation of tarsiers in Pattaya city, (Walking Street tourist area), Thailand.. <!-- _filtered {font-family: " Angsana New " ;panose-1:2 2 6 3 5 4 5 2 3 4;} _filtered {font-family: " Cordia New " ;panose-1:2 11 3 4 2 2 2 2 2 4;} _filtered {font-family:Tahoma;panose-1:2 11 6 4 3 5 4 4 2 4;} /* Style Definitions */ p.MsoNormal, li.MsoNormal, div.MsoNormal {margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt;font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;} a:link, span.MsoHyperlink {color:blue;text-decoration:underline;} a:visited, span.MsoHyperlinkFollowed {color:blue;text-decoration:underline;} p {margin-right:0cm;margin-left:0cm;font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;} span.EmailStyle18 {font-family:Arial;color:navy;} _filtered {margin:72.0pt 90.0pt 72.0pt 90.0pt;} div.Section1 {} --> Hi Frank, We are fully aware of how a tarsier looks like. The pictures you just send me are made on the walking street in Pattaya? If not please show me some of these, as I am still not convinced that it is anything else then a slow loris. (see our website on the campaign and news pages) With bets regards, Edwin Wiek Frank Malecki [citizenwatch299] Wednesday, 05 March, 200816:49 edwin.wiek; info Fw: Exploitation oftarsiers in Pattaya city, ( Walking Street tourist area), Thailand …. To: Wildlife Friends of Thailand ;and Edwin Weik Exploitation of tarsiers/tarsier type species inPattaya city, ( Walking Street tourist area), Thailand …. Help!: These small gentle creatures are being abused in Pattaya city, Thailand ! In Pattaya city, late at night/early in the morning, (around midnight), in the touristy Walking Steet area, tarsiers are offered to travellers to hold and handle. The female owner/handler of the animal offers her flash-camera for a fee, or alternatively allows tourists for a fee, to photograph the animal using their own cameras. These animals have large extremely light sensitive night-vision eyes. Their heads recoil back at the bright camera flash every time they are photographed. They are handled and photographed like that repeatedly. It is really depressing to know that these creatures are being regularly abused like that. The owners of the animals are only concerned in making money by exploiting them in this way. (The owners of the animals appear to be northern Thailand hill- tribes people, i.e. possibly Hmong, or similar, judging them from their costume/clothing) Most tourists are unaware just how sensitive thelarge night vision eyes of these animals are. Some tourists hold and cuddle theanimals while smoking their cigarettes, and subject them to their cigarettesmoke. The animals are always in danger of being dropped, and injuredespecially by drunken tourists. I wish there was something that could be done to prevent this cruelexploitation, of these gentle, sensitive, creatures. The animals are then also offered to tourists during daylight hours, along busy Pattaya Beach road between Soi (street) 10 and Walking Street . Thesite below gives some more information on these (endangered) animals: P.S. I thought these creatures were only found in the Philippines ,but looks like their is an Asian mainland variety of them in existence aswell. I believe the Philippines variety is an endangered species in near extinction. I would appreciate a reply regarding this urgent Thailand precinct matter. I have included some photos of what the animals look like, as an attachmentfile. I am certain the animals in question at Pattaya are definitely tarsiers. Thank you Yours Faithfully Frank Malecki Get the name you always wanted with the new y7mail email address. Getthe name you always wanted with the new y7mail email address. Get the name you always wanted with the new y7mail email address. Get the name you always wanted with the new y7mail email address. 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Guest guest Posted March 12, 2008 Report Posted March 12, 2008 Hi Mr Malecki, Sorry that I could not reply to you within a day or two. Unfortunately I have lots of work and first things come first, and the care for hundreds of wild animals at our center is just that. I get at some days up to 10 complaints from tourists about wildlife exploitation in Thailand and take them all serious. I replied to you the day before yesterday and informed you that I visited Pattaya a short while ago with the representative of an international animal welfare/wildlife NGO and did see the people with the lorises, made pictures of them and did talk to them (until they started to threaten us) to find out more about the animals and their origin. The cases where documented and we did send a full report and official complaint to the DNP (Department of National Parks) for follow up. Although we did follow up on the complaints by registered mail and phone calls with the authorities we never received any written reply nor did we see any action taken against the crimes. If you want to help the lorises as well please also send a complaint to the DNP, the more the better. their website is www.dnp.go.th for contact details. As I told you earlier in my last mail to you we (even as a registered foundation) have no jurisdiction at all to arrest a person or confiscate any animal, so this is all we can do for now. The education of tourists is another point however, all these Europeans, Australians , Americans and who knows where else they come from should know better then to facilitate this exploitation by paying for the picture taking... still lots of education work to do... but by who? A forced education program on Bangkok airport maybe for all arriving tourists, guess not. I am sure you are aware of my personal e-mail so feel free to contact me directly again at any time, but please give me a bit of time to reply, I am not always in or near an office and wi-fi does not do well in dense forests... Edwin Wiek WFFT Thailand --- On Tue, 11/3/08, Frank Malecki <citizenwatch299 wrote: Frank Malecki <citizenwatch299 Their Rescue is Waiting: Exploitation of Slow Loris' in Pattaya city, (Walking Street tourist area), Thailand.. aapn Tuesday, 11 March, 2008, 6:09 PM 11th of March, 2008. To: Edwin Weik Wildlife Friends of Thailand. Hello Edwin, and Wildlife Friends of Thailand! This is my second e-mail to you. I submitted this message previously to you on 07/03/2008, and have not received a reply as yet. Perhaps my previous e-mail got overlooked. I think your assumption is correct. The animals I saw in Pattaya do resemble the Slow Loris which you have alluded to. Please excuse my apparent lack of zoological expertise. I would describe the animal I saw as being small, with very large eyes; and the movements of its limbs were quite slow. It 's small human-like 'hand' tenderley reached out to me with the most kindest and gentlest grasp of my finger. At that moment, I instantly felt so sorry for this poor creature's plight you would not believe. Whenever tourists photographed the animal it's head slowly recoiled, arching way back, at the brightness of the flash. This torment occurred repeatedly. I think I also recall the animal I saw having a patch of its fur missing from its body from some form of injury. A hill-tribe-lady and her partner had possession of a couple of these Loris animals at the time. Is it possible that the Slow Loris and it's partner could be rescued and returned to the wild? It is not in the animals' welfare/ interests to be exploited like that in Pattaya, amidst hordes of cigarrette smoking, drunken tourists; they are in constant danger of being seriously harmed. i.e dropped onto the concrete road. Edwin, you represent 'Wildlife Friends of Thailand'. Do you think either yourself or someone from your organization can physically attend at Walking Street, Pattaya, and rescue these animals, and return them to the wild? By asking/questioning local persons in the vicinity of Walking Street, you would quickly locate these creatures and their captors. Otherwise take a stroll down Walking Street, at about midnight, and I'm sure you will locate them quite easily. The owners of the Loris' appeared to be not so financially well-off. I am of the opinion that perhaps they would accept some monetary offer to hand the creatures over to you. Also maybe these persons are in possession of more Loris's than just the two I observed. I don't know what the best rescue strategy is. But I'm hoping that you and your organization can think of something to safely secure the Loris' and return them to their native habitat. I would be most interested to hear from you about any action that is taken which will lead to the saving, rehabilitation and release of these wonderful creatures. I look forward to hearing from you and Wildlife Friends of Thailand , soon. Best Wishes and Regards, Frank P.S. Regarding your questions in your previous e-mail: The Tarsier pictures are not taken in Pattaya.. I obtained them from the the site: http://curiousanima ls.net/funnies- bunnies/tarsiers -freedom- forever/ whose address I supplied in my initial e-mail to you. The photos were used as an identification/ visual aid in an effort to describe the creature that I saw in my alert email to readers at the aapn forum. Looks like the animals concerned in this particular instance (Pattaya) are now most probably abused Loris'. Nevertheless. ..their rescue is waiting... Quote
Guest guest Posted March 12, 2008 Report Posted March 12, 2008 Hello Edwin, Thank you for your reply. I can assure you that I received no follow up e-mail from you as you state, until half an hour after I forwarded my second e-mail to you yesterday. I am glad that the urgent matter regarding the plight of the loris' of Pattaya is recorded in your current active files list. I understand that you are very busy. Hope this matter is not placed in the 'too difficult' basket, and that the case is reviewed with the objective of a successful strategy being formulated which will result in the freeing of these animals. Frank Malecki --\ ----------------- Edwin Wiek <edwin.wiek Frank Malecki <citizenwatch299 Cc: AAPN <aapn > Wednesday, 12 March, 2008 11:10:59 AM Re: Their Rescue is Waiting: Exploitation of Slow Loris' in Pattaya city, (Walking Street tourist area), Thailand.. Hi Mr Malecki, Sorry that I could not reply to you within a day or two. Unfortunately I have lots of work and first things come first, and the care for hundreds of wild animals at our center is just that. I get at some days up to 10 complaints from tourists about wildlife exploitation in Thailand and take them all serious. I replied to you the day before yesterday and informed you that I visited Pattaya a short while ago with the representative of an international animal welfare/wildlife NGO and did see the people with the lorises, made pictures of them and did talk to them (until they started to threaten us) to find out more about the animals and their origin. The cases where documented and we did send a full report and official complaint to the DNP (Department of National Parks) for follow up. Although we did follow up on the complaints by registered mail and phone calls with the authorities we never received any written reply nor did we see any action taken against the crimes. If you want to help the lorises as well please also send a complaint to the DNP, the more the better. their website is www.dnp.go.th for contact details. As I told you earlier in my last mail to you we (even as a registered foundation) have no jurisdiction at all to arrest a person or confiscate any animal, so this is all we can do for now. The education of tourists is another point however, all these Europeans, Australians , Americans and who knows where else they come from should know better then to facilitate this exploitation by paying for the picture taking... still lots of education work to do... but by who? A forced education program on Bangkok airport maybe for all arriving tourists, guess not. I am sure you are aware of my personal e-mail so feel free to contact me directly again at any time, but please give me a bit of time to reply, I am not always in or near an office and wi-fi does not do well in dense forests... Edwin Wiek WFFT Thailand --- On Tue, 11/3/08, Frank Malecki <citizenwatch299 wrote: Frank Malecki <citizenwatch299 Their Rescue is Waiting: Exploitation of Slow Loris' in Pattaya city, (Walking Street tourist area), Thailand.. aapn Tuesday, 11 March, 2008, 6:09 PM 11th of March, 2008. To: Edwin Weik Wildlife Friends of Thailand. Hello Edwin, and Wildlife Friends of Thailand! This is my second e-mail to you. I submitted this message previously to you on 07/03/2008, and have not received a reply as yet. Perhaps my previous e-mail got overlooked. I think your assumption is correct. The animals I saw in Pattaya do resemble the Slow Loris which you have alluded to. Please excuse my apparent lack of zoological expertise. I would describe the animal I saw as being small, with very large eyes; and the movements of its limbs were quite slow. It 's small human-like 'hand' tenderley reached out to me with the most kindest and gentlest grasp of my finger. At that moment, I instantly felt so sorry for this poor creature's plight you would not believe. Whenever tourists photographed the animal it's head slowly recoiled, arching way back, at the brightness of the flash. This torment occurred repeatedly. I think I also recall the animal I saw having a patch of its fur missing from its body from some form of injury. A hill-tribe-lady and her partner had possession of a couple of these Loris animals at the time. Is it possible that the Slow Loris and it's partner could be rescued and returned to the wild? It is not in the animals' welfare/ interests to be exploited like that in Pattaya, amidst hordes of cigarrette smoking, drunken tourists; they are in constant danger of being seriously harmed. i.e dropped onto the concrete road. Edwin, you represent 'Wildlife Friends of Thailand'. Do you think either yourself or someone from your organization can physically attend at Walking Street, Pattaya, and rescue these animals, and return them to the wild? By asking/questioning local persons in the vicinity of Walking Street, you would quickly locate these creatures and their captors. Otherwise take a stroll down Walking Street, at about midnight, and I'm sure you will locate them quite easily. The owners of the Loris' appeared to be not so financially well-off. I am of the opinion that perhaps they would accept some monetary offer to hand the creatures over to you. Also maybe these persons are in possession of more Loris's than just the two I observed. I don't know what the best rescue strategy is. But I'm hoping that you and your organization can think of something to safely secure the Loris' and return them to their native habitat. I would be most interested to hear from you about any action that is taken which will lead to the saving, rehabilitation and release of these wonderful creatures. I look forward to hearing from you and Wildlife Friends of Thailand , soon. Best Wishes and Regards, Frank P.S. Regarding your questions in your previous e-mail: The Tarsier pictures are not taken in Pattaya.. I obtained them from the the site: http://curiousanima ls.net/funnies- bunnies/tarsiers -freedom- forever/ whose address I supplied in my initial e-mail to you. The photos were used as an identification/ visual aid in an effort to describe the creature that I saw in my alert email to readers at the aapn forum. Looks like the animals concerned in this particular instance (Pattaya) are now most probably abused Loris'. Nevertheless. ...their rescue is waiting... Get the name you always wanted with the new y7mail email address. www.7.com.au/y7mail Quote
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