Their Rescue is Waiting: Exploitation of Slow Loris' in Pattaya city, (Walk

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Try this, may help.

 

Many a times we see tourists in our countries happily posing for

photographs with wild animals, something that is perhaps forbidden in

their native nations.

In India you can see them posing with snakes, monkeys, bears.

And in other countries like Singapore/ Thailand etc with Orangutans

and or other exotic and protected species.

 

Now if we animal people as and when we come across such tourists can

click their pictures candidly posing with the animals, and then

politely ask for their identity (name/ passport number/ country of

origin etc) whatever is made available.

 

We can then flash that information on the internet along with their

details so that they get bad publicity and also their country of

origin makes some effort (if they may) to blacklist the visitor for

causing harm to the goodwill of that nation.

 

Nowadays most countries are concerned about their reputation and

therefore do take note of certain violations that their citizens carry

out in other countries. The tourist may be penalised on return, or may

be denied visa etc on his next trip.

 

With so much restricted travel guidelines, a tourist is always

concerned about his does and donts.

 

This may be a slow process to check this trend, but it surely would be

effective as well.

 

Azam

 

aapn , Frank Malecki <citizenwatch299 wrote:

>

>

> 11th of March, 2008.

>

>

> To:

> Edwin Weik

> Wildlife Friends of Thailand.

>

>

> Hello Edwin, and Wildlife Friends of Thailand!

>

> This is my second e-mail to you. I submitted this message previously

to you on 07/03/2008,

> and have not received a reply as yet. Perhaps my previous e-mail got

overlooked.

>

> I think your assumption is correct. The animals I saw in Pattaya do

resemble the Slow Loris

> which you have alluded to. Please excuse my apparent lack of

zoological expertise.

>

> I would describe the animal I saw as being small, with very large

eyes; and the movements of its limbs

> were quite slow. It 's small human-like 'hand' tenderley reached

out to me with the most

> kindest and gentlest grasp of my finger. At that moment, I

instantly felt so sorry for this poor creature's plight

> you would not believe.

>

> Whenever tourists photographed the animal it's head slowly

> recoiled, arching way back, at the brightness of the flash. This

torment occurred repeatedly.

>

> I think I also recall the animal I saw having a patch of its fur

missing from its body from some

> form of injury.

>

> A hill-tribe-lady and her partner had possession of a couple of

these Loris animals at the time.

>

> Is it possible that the Slow Loris and it's partner could be rescued

and returned to the wild?

>

> It is not in the animals' welfare/ interests to be exploited like

that in Pattaya, amidst hordes of cigarrette smoking, drunken

tourists; they

> are in constant danger of being seriously harmed. i.e dropped onto

the concrete road.

>

> Edwin, you represent 'Wildlife Friends of Thailand'. Do you think

either yourself or someone from your

> organization can physically attend at Walking Street, Pattaya, and

rescue these animals, and return them

> to the wild?

>

> By asking/questioning local persons in the vicinity of Walking

Street, you would quickly locate

> these creatures and their captors. Otherwise take a stroll down

Walking Street, at about midnight, and

> I'm sure you will locate them quite easily.

>

> The owners of the Loris' appeared to be not so financially well-off.

> I am of the opinion that perhaps they would accept some monetary offer

> to hand the creatures over to you.

> Also maybe these persons are in possession of more Loris's than just

the two I observed.

> I don't know what the best rescue strategy is. But I'm hoping that

you and your organization can think of something

> to safely secure the Loris' and return them to their native habitat.

> I would be most interested to hear from you about any action that

is taken which will

> lead to the saving, rehabilitation and release of these wonderful

creatures.

> I look forward to hearing from you and Wildlife Friends of Thailand

, soon.

>

> Best Wishes and Regards,

> Frank

>

> P.S.

> Regarding your questions in your previous e-mail:

>

> The Tarsier pictures are not taken in Pattaya.. I obtained them

from the the site:

> http://curiousanimals.net/funnies-bunnies/tarsiers-freedom-forever/

> whose address I supplied in my initial e-mail to you.

>

> The photos were used as an identification/visual aid in an effort

to describe the creature that I saw

> in my alert email to readers at the aapn forum.

>

> Looks like the animals concerned in this particular instance

(Pattaya) are now most probably abused Loris'.

>

> Nevertheless...their rescue is waiting...

>

>

>

>

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>

>

> Edwin Wiek <edwin.wiek

> Frank Malecki <citizenwatch299

> Cc: Guna Subramaniam/ CWI <guna; Ulrike Streicher <uli

> Wednesday, 5 March, 2008 10:30:36 PM

> RE: Exploitation of tarsiers in Pattaya city, (Walking

Street tourist area), Thailand..

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> Hi Frank,

>

> We are fully aware of how a tarsier looks

> like. The pictures you just send me are made on the walking street

in Pattaya? If

> not please show me some of these, as I am still not convinced that it is

> anything else then a slow loris. (see our website on the campaign

and news

> pages)

>

> With bets regards,

>

>

> Edwin Wiek

>

>

> Frank Malecki [citizenwatch299]

> Wednesday, 05 March, 200816:49

> edwin.wiek; info

> Fw: Exploitation oftarsiers in Pattaya city, ( Walking

Street tourist area), Thailand ….

>

>

> To:

> Wildlife Friends of Thailand ;and

> Edwin Weik

>

> Exploitation of tarsiers/tarsier type species inPattaya

city, ( Walking Street tourist area), Thailand ….

>

> Help!: These small gentle creatures are being abused in Pattaya city,

> Thailand !

>

>

> In Pattaya city, late at night/early in the

> morning, (around midnight), in the touristy Walking Steet area,

tarsiers

> are offered to travellers to hold and handle. The female

owner/handler of

> the animal offers her flash-camera for a fee, or alternatively

allows tourists

> for a fee, to photograph the animal using their own cameras.

>

> These animals have large extremely light

> sensitive night-vision eyes. Their heads recoil back at the bright

camera flash

> every time they are photographed. They are handled and photographed

like that

> repeatedly. It is really depressing to know that these creatures are

being

> regularly abused like that. The owners of the animals are only

concerned in

> making money by exploiting them in this way.

> (The owners of the animals appear to be

> northern Thailand

> hill- tribes people, i.e. possibly Hmong, or similar, judging them from

> their costume/clothing)

>

> Most tourists are unaware just how sensitive thelarge night vision

eyes of these animals are. Some tourists hold and cuddle theanimals

while smoking their cigarettes, and subject them to their

cigarettesmoke. The animals are always in danger of being dropped, and

injuredespecially by drunken tourists.

> I wish there was something that could be done to prevent this

cruelexploitation, of these gentle, sensitive, creatures.

> The animals are then also offered to tourists

> during daylight hours, along busy Pattaya

> Beach road between Soi

> (street) 10 and Walking Street .

> Thesite below gives some more information on these (endangered)

animals:

>

>

> P.S. I thought these creatures were only found in the Philippines

,but looks like their is an Asian mainland variety of them in

existence aswell.

> I believe the Philippines variety is an endangered species in near

extinction.

>

> I would appreciate a reply regarding this urgent Thailand precinct

matter.

> I have included some photos of what the animals look like, as an

attachmentfile. I am certain the animals in question at Pattaya are

definitely tarsiers.

>

> Thank you

>

> Yours Faithfully

> Frank Malecki

>

>

>

>

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[Guest guest]

Hi Azam,

 

Unfortunately this does not work like the pedophile cases for Europeans or

Americans visiting other countries. Most people do not understand it is wrong at

all, let alone illegal. I found that countries like Thailand, India or Singapore

do not care about the laws involving animal welfare or wildlife conservation if

the all mighty tourist dollar is involved.

 

In Singapore hundreds of people make pictures with illegally obtained pink

dolphins while " swimming " with them every week. In Thailand we see poached baby

gibbons on beaches paraded around while elephant camps for tourism are being

stocked up with elephant calfs taken from the wild. In India people make

pictures with poisonous snakes, bears or monkeys as well.

 

It all entertains tourists from all over the world and is mostly seen by the

authorities as a nice extra treat for the foreigners. If we would like to stop

this we should target the root of the problem; the fact that not many care in

our countries.

 

Edwin

 

--- On Tue, 11/3/08, azam24x7 <azam24x7 wrote:

azam24x7 <azam24x7

Re: Their Rescue is Waiting: Exploitation of Slow Loris' in

Pattaya city, (Walk

aapn

Tuesday, 11 March, 2008, 8:15 PM

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Try this, may help.

 

 

 

Many a times we see tourists in our countries happily posing for

 

photographs with wild animals, something that is perhaps forbidden in

 

their native nations.

 

In India you can see them posing with snakes, monkeys, bears.

 

And in other countries like Singapore/ Thailand etc with Orangutans

 

and or other exotic and protected species.

 

 

 

Now if we animal people as and when we come across such tourists can

 

click their pictures candidly posing with the animals, and then

 

politely ask for their identity (name/ passport number/ country of

 

origin etc) whatever is made available.

 

 

 

We can then flash that information on the internet along with their

 

details so that they get bad publicity and also their country of

 

origin makes some effort (if they may) to blacklist the visitor for

 

causing harm to the goodwill of that nation.

 

 

 

Nowadays most countries are concerned about their reputation and

 

therefore do take note of certain violations that their citizens carry

 

out in other countries. The tourist may be penalised on return, or may

 

be denied visa etc on his next trip.

 

 

 

With so much restricted travel guidelines, a tourist is always

 

concerned about his does and donts.

 

 

 

This may be a slow process to check this trend, but it surely would be

 

effective as well.

 

 

 

Azam

 

 

 

aapn , Frank Malecki <citizenwatch299@ ...> wrote:

 

>

 

>

 

> 11th of March, 2008.

 

>

 

>

 

> To:

 

> Edwin Weik

 

> Wildlife Friends of Thailand.

 

>

 

>

 

> Hello Edwin, and Wildlife Friends of Thailand!

 

>

 

> This is my second e-mail to you. I submitted this message previously

 

to you on 07/03/2008,

 

> and have not received a reply as yet. Perhaps my previous e-mail got

 

overlooked.

 

>

 

> I think your assumption is correct. The animals I saw in Pattaya do

 

resemble the Slow Loris

 

> which you have alluded to. Please excuse my apparent lack of

 

zoological expertise.

 

>

 

> I would describe the animal I saw as being small, with very large

 

eyes; and the movements of its limbs

 

> were quite slow. It 's small human-like 'hand' tenderley reached

 

out to me with the most

 

> kindest and gentlest grasp of my finger. At that moment, I

 

instantly felt so sorry for this poor creature's plight

 

> you would not believe.

 

>

 

> Whenever tourists photographed the animal it's head slowly

 

> recoiled, arching way back, at the brightness of the flash. This

 

torment occurred repeatedly.

 

>

 

> I think I also recall the animal I saw having a patch of its fur

 

missing from its body from some

 

> form of injury.

 

>

 

> A hill-tribe-lady and her partner had possession of a couple of

 

these Loris animals at the time.

 

>

 

> Is it possible that the Slow Loris and it's partner could be rescued

 

and returned to the wild?

 

>

 

> It is not in the animals' welfare/ interests to be exploited like

 

that in Pattaya, amidst hordes of cigarrette smoking, drunken

 

tourists; they

 

> are in constant danger of being seriously harmed. i.e dropped onto

 

the concrete road.

 

>

 

> Edwin, you represent 'Wildlife Friends of Thailand'. Do you think

 

either yourself or someone from your

 

> organization can physically attend at Walking Street, Pattaya, and

 

rescue these animals, and return them

 

> to the wild?

 

>

 

> By asking/questioning local persons in the vicinity of Walking

 

Street, you would quickly locate

 

> these creatures and their captors. Otherwise take a stroll down

 

Walking Street, at about midnight, and

 

> I'm sure you will locate them quite easily.

 

>

 

> The owners of the Loris' appeared to be not so financially well-off.

 

> I am of the opinion that perhaps they would accept some monetary offer

 

> to hand the creatures over to you.

 

> Also maybe these persons are in possession of more Loris's than just

 

the two I observed.

 

> I don't know what the best rescue strategy is. But I'm hoping that

 

you and your organization can think of something

 

> to safely secure the Loris' and return them to their native habitat.

 

> I would be most interested to hear from you about any action that

 

is taken which will

 

> lead to the saving, rehabilitation and release of these wonderful

 

creatures.

 

> I look forward to hearing from you and Wildlife Friends of Thailand

 

, soon.

 

>

 

> Best Wishes and Regards,

 

> Frank

 

>

 

> P.S.

 

> Regarding your questions in your previous e-mail:

 

>

 

> The Tarsier pictures are not taken in Pattaya.. I obtained them

 

from the the site:

 

> http://curiousanima ls.net/funnies- bunnies/tarsiers -freedom- forever/

 

> whose address I supplied in my initial e-mail to you.

 

>

 

> The photos were used as an identification/ visual aid in an effort

 

to describe the creature that I saw

 

> in my alert email to readers at the aapn forum.

 

>

 

> Looks like the animals concerned in this particular instance

 

(Pattaya) are now most probably abused Loris'.

 

>

 

> Nevertheless. ..their rescue is waiting...

 

>

 

>

 

>

 

>

 

------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- -

 

>

 

>

 

> Edwin Wiek <edwin.wiek@ ...>

 

> Frank Malecki <citizenwatch299@ ...>

 

> Cc: Guna Subramaniam/ CWI <guna; Ulrike Streicher <uli

 

> Wednesday, 5 March, 2008 10:30:36 PM

 

> RE: Exploitation of tarsiers in Pattaya city, (Walking

 

Street tourist area), Thailand..

 

>

 

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> Hi Frank,

 

>

 

> We are fully aware of how a tarsier looks

 

> like. The pictures you just send me are made on the walking street

 

in Pattaya? If

 

> not please show me some of these, as I am still not convinced that it is

 

> anything else then a slow loris. (see our website on the campaign

 

and news

 

> pages)

 

>

 

> With bets regards,

 

>

 

>

 

> Edwin Wiek

 

>

 

>

 

> Frank Malecki [citizenwatc h299]

 

> Wednesday, 05 March, 200816:49

 

> edwin.wiek@. ..; info

 

> Fw: Exploitation oftarsiers in Pattaya city, ( Walking

 

Street tourist area), Thailand ….

 

>

 

>

 

> To:

 

> Wildlife Friends of Thailand ;and

 

> Edwin Weik

 

>

 

> Exploitation of tarsiers/tarsier type species inPattaya

 

city, ( Walking Street tourist area), Thailand ….

 

>

 

> Help!: These small gentle creatures are being abused in Pattaya city,

 

> Thailand !

 

>

 

>

 

> In Pattaya city, late at night/early in the

 

> morning, (around midnight), in the touristy Walking Steet area,

 

tarsiers

 

> are offered to travellers to hold and handle. The female

 

owner/handler of

 

> the animal offers her flash-camera for a fee, or alternatively

 

allows tourists

 

> for a fee, to photograph the animal using their own cameras.

 

>

 

> These animals have large extremely light

 

> sensitive night-vision eyes. Their heads recoil back at the bright

 

camera flash

 

> every time they are photographed. They are handled and photographed

 

like that

 

> repeatedly. It is really depressing to know that these creatures are

 

being

 

> regularly abused like that. The owners of the animals are only

 

concerned in

 

> making money by exploiting them in this way.

 

> (The owners of the animals appear to be

 

> northern Thailand

 

> hill- tribes people, i.e. possibly Hmong, or similar, judging them from

 

> their costume/clothing)

 

>

 

> Most tourists are unaware just how sensitive thelarge night vision

 

eyes of these animals are. Some tourists hold and cuddle theanimals

 

while smoking their cigarettes, and subject them to their

 

cigarettesmoke. The animals are always in danger of being dropped, and

 

injuredespecially by drunken tourists.

 

> I wish there was something that could be done to prevent this

 

cruelexploitation, of these gentle, sensitive, creatures.

 

> The animals are then also offered to tourists

 

> during daylight hours, along busy Pattaya

 

> Beach road between Soi

 

> (street) 10 and Walking Street .

 

> Thesite below gives some more information on these (endangered)

 

animals:

 

>

 

>

 

> P.S. I thought these creatures were only found in the Philippines

 

,but looks like their is an Asian mainland variety of them in

 

existence aswell.

 

> I believe the Philippines variety is an endangered species in near

 

extinction.

 

>

 

> I would appreciate a reply regarding this urgent Thailand precinct

 

matter.

 

> I have included some photos of what the animals look like, as an

 

attachmentfile. I am certain the animals in question at Pattaya are

 

definitely tarsiers.

 

>

 

> Thank you

 

>

 

> Yours Faithfully

 

> Frank Malecki

 

>

 

>

 

>

 

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