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*http://www.rediff.com/news/2008/may/05tiger.htm*

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May 05, 2008

After spending 33 years of his life following the tale of the tiger and its

fight for survival, *Valmik Thapar* is far from convinced it will happen.

 

By the time I arrive, I find Valmik Thapar already seated in Tamura, the

small but authentic Japanese eatery on the second floor in the Friends

Colony Community Centre market, the location of which only Thapar seems to

know. I have called him to ask for directions (after several others looked

at me blankly) and been told off quite curtly, " You should have found it by

now. I have been waiting and I told you I have to leave early " , writes *Anjuli

Bhargava*.

 

Is it just my imagination or has spending so much time in the wild led to an

uncanny resemblance between wildlife and tiger expert Thapar and his

favourite companion? Of course, no man can really look like a tiger but

aren't the characteristics somewhat alike? As I ponder this and gush into an

introduction, I mention *Land of the Tiger,* which I had heard was one of

his best documentary films.

 

" It's not mine, " he thunders. " I was only the presenter. It was a BBC film, "

he adds, quite disgusted at my ignorance. Maybe the resemblance is less

striking than I first thought. Despite my two blunders, I remain uneaten.

 

We quickly order (fried prawns and some kind of noodle soup for him, and a

plate of stir-fried vegetables for me) and get down to business. I have

caught him between two trips to Ranthambhore where, in 1975, Thapar's love

affair with the tiger began while shooting a film, *Deep in the jungles of

Rajasthan.* He's just been there for ten days during his son's school

vacation -- a trip that will result in his 15th book on tigers, *Ten Days in

Ranthambhore* -- and is leaving for another short weekend trip there.

 

His trip was special for three reasons. It was his first trip with his

five-and-a-half-year-old son, he says, in a visible softening of his

otherwise gruff exterior. He managed to catch up, for eight hours every day

over the 10-day period, with Macchli, a 15-or 16-year-old female tiger whose

life he's been closely entwined with. He saw her fifth litter (he says she's

thrown 12 cubs to maturity), which was just readying to leave her. And it

was special because after many years of visiting the national parks in

India, he spotted a tiny glimmer of hope.

 

Just two years ago, Thapar had declared that " the tiger had been placed in

its coffin. " But today Ranthambhore, in his view, is a prime example of what

can be done, if someone puts their minds to it. " Tigers everywhere you

look, " he says estatically. He says the credit for this goes entirely to

chief minister Vasundhara Raje. She hired 200 ex-army men to increase

protection, she put in place good rangers and took a personal interest in

the problems facing the park.

 

But Ranthambhore has a tiny population of 30 tigers. For the bigger and

wilder majority, there's little hope. Thapar estimates the current tiger

population in India at somewhere between 1,200 and 1,400. In 1973, he says,

there were 1,800. Painstakingly, this was doubled to around 3,600 five years

ago. But in the last four years, rampant poaching and poor protection have

brought the number down by 2,300.

 

Thapar is at his wits' end with the approach of the government which, he's

convinced, is absolutely wrong. He says he's worked on at least 150

committees and sub-committees (since 1992, when Kamal Nath created the Tiger

Crisis cell) of the government relating to tigers which have " all been a

waste of time " . He says all the money in the world can't save the tiger

unless there's a change in tack. He also squarely blames the state

governments. " The Centre can only provide money and guidance. But the state

has to do the day-to-day running of the park, " he explains. Forest guards

are treated " like dirt " in an era of " brainless governance and absolute

ignorance " .

 

I know I risk Thapar's wrath, yet I mention the task force on tigers set up

in 2005. The task force was a " mess " consisting of a " strange bunch of

people " who, in his view, had " no understanding of the tiger. If they want

to deal with people's problems, they should set up a people's task force or

a tribal task force, not a tiger task force. " Thapar dissented with the

final report of the task force which suggested people and tigers can

co-exist. Hogwash, he says.

 

" Between 1850 and 1950, 30,000 tribals and villagers were killed by tigers

and 100,000 tigers were killed by man and you're trying to tell me the two

can co-exist! There's no harmony here, " he adds. Today, he stands

vindicated. " Now, they are struggling to relocate villages as they realise

tigers and man do not co-exist! "

 

I suggest that the task force's composition may have been deliberate to keep

alive an element of objectivity in the report -- his views may be too

" rabid " for public consumption. He begs to differ. " I'm not saying you must

have 5,000 tigers. All I say is have 2,000 if that's what you can manage.

Genuine forest dwellers must have their space in the forests. The tiger must

have his. All I am saying is don't try and mix the two. Simple. Is that

rabid? "

 

Thapar argues that if tigers vanish, in due course, so will forests and

India will be " desertified " . " Who will visit the forests then and who will

say 'oh let's save this forest just for its natural beauty'! Forget it!

India has 600 national parks and forests. There are 100 in Andaman and

Nicobar islands alone. Who even knows their names? Tourists go to eight-ten

out of 600. "

 

He says he's shocked at corporate India's apathy to India's environmental

and forest heritage. " All of them -- the top corporates -- want to visit the

sanctuaries but no one wants to come forward and do anything to preserve

them. It's a national shame -- what the corporate world hasn't done! " He

says he's exhorted each of them personally to get involved, but to no avail.

 

I, for the life of me, can't imagine him on any kind of government

committee. He must be quite a shock to the stodgy, dull bureaucratic senses,

I suggest? " They hate me, " he says matter-of-factly. He says he's on

numerous committees because someone or the other forces him onto it or

forces the bureaucracy to put him onto it.

 

And is there more to Valmik Thapar than just the tiger? He says he and his

family have discovered a new love: snorkeling and underwater life. Every

year, he, his wife (who's a deep sea diver) and his son spend a month in the

Maldives, with their heads buried in the water watching the marine life go

by. " It's the new thing that's happened in our lives, " he reveals, quite

happy to spend a few moments describing the ocean with its myriad colours

and life.

 

I ask if he sometimes feels fed up with the futility of things as he sees

them. " What can one do? We can only push, cajole, pressurise or embarrass.

We can't beat the system. The first tiger crisis was in 1992. Sixteen years

later and we are back where we started. It doesn't give one much hope, " he

says in conclusion. The tiger, it appears, has been left to its own devices.

Its survival -- if it happens -- will be despite the system, not thanks to

it.

 

 

 

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