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King attends Hindu animal sacrifice, 'power' ceremony in Nepal

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DAKSHINKALI, Nepal (AFP) — Nepal's king put in a rare public appearance

Monday at an Hindu animal sacrifice ritual designed to preserve power, just

weeks before the monarchy is due to be abolished.

 

King Gyanendra will likely be the last ruler of a centuries' old dynasty by

fiercely republican Maoists who scored a surprise victory in landmark

elections last month.

 

" Panchabali (five animal sacrifice) is undertaken to get power, to get what

you wish for and to ensure the well-being of the family, " Mod Raj

Bhattarai, a royal priest, told AFP at the elaborate temple ceremony.

 

" This puja (ceremony) will bring good consequences to the world and to

Nepal, " he predicted.

 

The Maoists have vowed that the monarchy will be scrapped during the first

sitting of the constitutional assembly, which is due to meet before the end

of the month.

 

Gyanendra -- who drove himself in a jeep in a small convoy to the temple in

a deep gorge 18 kilometres (11 miles) south of Kathmandu -- smiled and put

his hands together in the traditional " namaste " greeting when questioned by

reporters.

 

" I came here to see the king and pay him my respects as this might be the

last chance, " said Tseten Sherpa, a Buddhist monk from a monastery nearby,

told AFP.

 

The usually dour-looking king appeared relaxed throughout the annual

ceremony and he had clearly lost weight, an AFP reporter at the scene said.

 

Several dozen royalists also attended the dark and secluded Dakshinkali

temple, telling AFP that getting rid of the monarchy would be a mistake.

 

" The king is part of our culture and traditions. He must remain. He is the

symbol of sovereignty and nationalism in the country, " said Tirtha Man

Lama, 82, who was a member of a royally-appointed government in the late 1950s.

 

At the height of the ceremony, temple assistants slit the throats of a

duck, chicken, lamb, goat and buffalo before the king and queen in an

ancient tradition of offerings to Kali, the Hindu goddess of death and

destruction.

 

As blood flowed, the animals were decapitated in front of a fearsome Kali

statue. Their livers were cut out and placed in a small container that the

king took back to the palace.

 

Seen by supporters as a reincarnation of the Hindu protector Vishnu, the

king's fall from god-king to sidelined monarch has been spectacular.

 

The 61-year-old has already been stripped of most of his powers, including

his roles as head of state and army chief.

 

Gyanendra took the throne in 2001 in tragic and bizarre circumstances after

a drunk and drugged crown prince massacred nine members of the royal family

and then killed himself, after being forbidden from marrying the woman he

loved.

 

Already unpopular when he came to the throne, his popularity hit rock

bottom when he sacked the government and took direct control of the

impoverished nation in February 2005.

 

The move pushed Nepal's mainstream political parties into a tactical

alliance with their former foes, the Maoist insurgents, and resulted in the

landmark 2006 peace pact that ended a civil war in which more than 13,000

people died.

 

 

 

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This notorious man is a unique case as his deeds (pre-animal sacrifices and

post animal sacrifices) can be used as a model to generate awareness in the

society which has strong faith and myth in sacrificing animals to appease

the Gods and bring good luck.

 

He made a high profile visit in 2002 in northeast India to perform

'Panchbali' (a sacrifice of five animals) a Buffalo, a goat, a sheep, a duck

and a pigeon at the Kamakhya temple of Guwahati city.

This sacrifice was organised because he was going through turbulent times

back in Nepal. The tragic circumstances in which the late King Birendra and

almost the entire royal family were massacred, and the bloody Maoist unrest

that had kept Nepal on the boil ever since were the main reasons that

brought this man to murder the animals here.

Having ignored raging media criticisms, protests this man, the then Nepal

King executed one of the most celebrated sacrifices of recent times as security

personnel had literally laid siege on the hills where the temple is

positioned.

Next day he dares to do the same ritual sacrifice in the Kalighat temple of

Kolkata as animal people cry foul. This time too he gets away with the

murders.

Courtesy: Our Awesome Animal Protections Laws that allow certain animals to

be sacrifices for different religion.

Satisfied he goes back to his kingdom.

Only to be thrown out on literally on the streets.

The end result we all know, its the Maoists who now have command over a

democratically held election while the King is asked to pack up his bags and

evict the palace even.

 

Even now this man refuses to lear n anything from his past actions and hopes

that by killing more voiceless he can come out of troubled times.

 

Lucia, please suggest how best this man`s FAILED attempts can be used to

educate the masses and end the murders.

 

Azam

 

On Tue, May 13, 2008 at 11:36 AM, Lucia <lucia wrote:

 

> King attends Hindu animal sacrifice, 'power' ceremony in Nepal

> http://afp.google.com/article/ALeqM5hAKMxo_5T2UyXQui9-OosLkmfqWA

>

> DAKSHINKALI, Nepal (AFP) — Nepal's king put in a rare public appearance

> Monday at an Hindu animal sacrifice ritual designed to preserve power,

> just

> weeks before the monarchy is due to be abolished.

>

> King Gyanendra will likely be the last ruler of a centuries' old dynasty

> by

> fiercely republican Maoists who scored a surprise victory in landmark

elections last month.

>

> " Panchabali (five animal sacrifice) is undertaken to get power, to get

> what

> you wish for and to ensure the well-being of the family, " Mod Raj

> Bhattarai, a royal priest, told AFP at the elaborate temple ceremony.

>

> " This puja (ceremony) will bring good consequences to the world and to

> Nepal, " he predicted.

>

> The Maoists have vowed that the monarchy will be scrapped during the first

>

> sitting of the constitutional assembly, which is due to meet before the

> end

> of the month.

>

> Gyanendra -- who drove himself in a jeep in a small convoy to the temple

> in

> a deep gorge 18 kilometres (11 miles) south of Kathmandu -- smiled and put

>

> his hands together in the traditional " namaste " greeting when questioned

> by

> reporters.

>

> " I came here to see the king and pay him my respects as this might be the

> last chance, " said Tseten Sherpa, a Buddhist monk from a monastery nearby,

>

> told AFP.

>

> The usually dour-looking king appeared relaxed throughout the annual

> ceremony and he had clearly lost weight, an AFP reporter at the scene

> said.

>

> Several dozen royalists also attended the dark and secluded Dakshinkali

> temple, telling AFP that getting rid of the monarchy would be a mistake.

>

> " The king is part of our culture and traditions. He must remain. He is the

>

> symbol of sovereignty and nationalism in the country, " said Tirtha Man

> Lama, 82, who was a member of a royally-appointed government in the late

> 1950s.

>

> At the height of the ceremony, temple assistants slit the throats of a

> duck, chicken, lamb, goat and buffalo before the king and queen in an

> ancient tradition of offerings to Kali, the Hindu goddess of death and

> destruction.

>

> As blood flowed, the animals were decapitated in front of a fearsome Kali

> statue. Their livers were cut out and placed in a small container that the

>

> king took back to the palace.

>

> Seen by supporters as a reincarnation of the Hindu protector Vishnu, the

> king's fall from god-king to sidelined monarch has been spectacular.

>

> The 61-year-old has already been stripped of most of his powers, including

>

> his roles as head of state and army chief.

>

> Gyanendra took the throne in 2001 in tragic and bizarre circumstances

> after

> a drunk and drugged crown prince massacred nine members of the royal

> family

> and then killed himself, after being forbidden from marrying the woman he

> loved.

>

> Already unpopular when he came to the throne, his popularity hit rock

> bottom when he sacked the government and took direct control of the

> impoverished nation in February 2005.

>

> The move pushed Nepal's mainstream political parties into a tactical

> alliance with their former foes, the Maoist insurgents, and resulted in

> the

> landmark 2006 peace pact that ended a civil war in which more than 13,000

> people died.

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Dear Azam,

 

Please note that the Puri Jagannath temple will continue to provide special

religious rights to Gyanendra even after he's packed up and gone....

 

In 2004, the king and his wife even proceded over Gadimai festival in

Nepal's Bara district, the largest sacrifice venue in the world, while ten

thousands of animals were being butchered. The next Gadimai will be

organised in December 2009 and many Indian Hindus will join the

'celebration'. Perhaps we can campaign jointly?

 

The royal palace and the government's guthi sansthan are also involved in a

particularly cruel kind of sacrifice in Gorakhali temple in Gurkha.

Gorakhali Mai is the goddess of the royal family. Each year they sponsor

the killings of 84 buffaloes and 154 goats during Durga Puja. They also

sponsor the killing of a very large bufffalo, about 400 lbs, called Satar,

after the shape of the demon Mahisasura. At the time of sacrifice he is

tied by ropes and held down by 10-15 people. Then the neck is cut very

slowly and the blood splattered over an image of Kali. Thousand of people

come to see the killing of the buffalo.

 

However, what I am more worried about at this point is whether state

sponsored animal sacrifice during Dasain festivals will continue under the

Maoist leadership. As you might know during different Dasain festivals in

different parts of the country the government pays for mass sacrifice of

young buffaloes, goats, birds, etc. The 'cutting' is even shown life on TV,

something which is bound to cause trauma to sensitive young viewers.

 

One thing which will be helpful is writing letters to Prachanda, the head

of the CPN (Maoist) and possible the new government., as well as the new

Home Minister. I will send more details later.

 

Lucia.

 

Jagannath temple still reveres King Gyanendra

 

Indo-Asian News Service

Puri, May 4:

http://thehimalayantimes.com/fullstory.asp?filename=aFanata0scqzpca4Ta7qa.axamal\

& folder=aHaoamW & Name=Home & dtSiteDate=20080505

King Gyanendra might lose his 239-year-old crown after monarchy is

abolished, but he will continue to enjoy special religious rights as a

“king” in India’s ancient Jagannath temple in Orissa.

 

The king and his queen enjoy special privileges at the 12th century

Jagannath temple in Orissa’s coastal city of Puri.

 

The temple is one of the most sacred Hindu pilgrimage spots and is taken as

one of the four abodes (dhamas) of the divine

that lie in the four directions of the country.

 

As per the temple record of rights, the entire temple premises gets washed

— a ritual known as ‘soudha’, before the arrival of the Nepal royal couple.

Authorities do not allow devotees to enter the temple premises. All the

morning rituals of the temple are conducted in advance to facilitate them.

 

Only a handful of temple servitors help the Nepal royal couple perform

rituals before the deities. The temple administration closes three gates

and keeps open only the southern gate for the Nepali king and queen to

enter, according to temple official Bhaskar Mishra.

 

Family priests of the king, known as ‘Lalmoharia Panda’, escort the couple

to the sanctum sanctorum.

 

It is the Nepal king who has the privilege to perform rituals on the ‘Ratna

Vedi,’ the throne of the deities inside the sanctum sanctorum. Except for a

few senior temple priests, no other person is allowed to perform the ritual.

 

“The Nepal royal couple will continue to enjoy the same privileges even

after they lose their crown in Nepal,” Suresh Mohapatra, the temple’s chief

administrator, said. “If they come here, they will be given the same royal

treatment we have been giving them in the past,” he said.

 

Like King Gyanendra, a royal family in Orissa also enjoys special status in

the temple. The king of Puri, known as ‘Gajapati’, is considered the chief

servitor of the Jagannath temple. He is also the ex-officio chairperson of

the temple managing body. Hindu devotees believe the king of Puri is the

religious representative of Lord Jagannath and revere him as next to the lord.

 

When the king and queen visit the temple, it is the Gajapati who welcomes

them to the temple city and accompanies the royal couple to the temple.

“Legend says the King of Nepal had presented the ‘Shaligram Shila’ (a

precious stone considered to be the representative of Lord Vishnu) to the

king of Orissa, Jajati Keshari, in the 11th century AD,” Jagabandhu Padhi,

a researcher, said.

 

“The Shila has since been placed in the heart of the wooden image of lord

Jagannath. From that time on the King of Nepal enjoys special privileges in

the Jagannath temple,” Padhi said.

 

 

At 02:04 PM 5/13/2008 +0530, AZAM SIDDIQUI wrote:

>This notorious man is a unique case as his deeds (pre-animal sacrifices

>and post animal sacrifices) can be used as a model to generate awareness

>in the society which has strong faith and myth in sacrificing animals to

>appease the Gods and bring good luck.

>

>He made a high profile visit in 2002 in northeast India to perform

>'Panchbali' (a sacrifice of five animals) a Buffalo, a goat, a sheep, a

>duck and a pigeon at the Kamakhya temple of Guwahati city.

>This sacrifice was organised because he was going through turbulent times

>back in Nepal. The tragic circumstances in which the late King Birendra

>and almost the entire royal family were massacred, and the bloody Maoist

>unrest that had kept Nepal on the boil ever since were the main reasons

>that brought this man to murder the animals here.

>Having ignored raging media criticisms, protests this man, the then Nepal

>King executed one of the most celebrated sacrifices of recent times as

>security personnel had literally laid siege on the hills where the temple

>is positioned.

>Next day he dares to do the same ritual sacrifice in the Kalighat temple

>of Kolkata as animal people cry foul. This time too he gets away with the

>murders.

>Courtesy: Our Awesome Animal Protections Laws that allow certain animals

>to be sacrifices for different religion.

>Satisfied he goes back to his kingdom.

>Only to be thrown out on literally on the streets.

>The end result we all know, its the Maoists who now have command over a

>democratically held election while the King is asked to pack up his bags

>and evict the palace even.

>

>Even now this man refuses to lean anything from his past actions and hopes

>that by killing more voiceless he can come out of troubled times.

>

>Lucia, please suggest how best this man`s FAILED attempts can be used to

>educate the masses and end the murders.

>

>Azam

>

>On Tue, May 13, 2008 at 11:36 AM, Lucia

><<lucialucia wrote:

>>

>>King attends Hindu animal sacrifice, 'power' ceremony in Nepal

>><http://afp.google.com/article/ALeqM5hAKMxo_5T2UyXQui9-OosLkmfqWA>http://afp.g\

oogle.com/article/ALeqM5hAKMxo_5T2UyXQui9-OosLkmfqWA

>>

>>DAKSHINKALI, Nepal (AFP) — Nepal's king put in a rare public appearance

>>Monday at an Hindu animal sacrifice ritual designed to preserve power, just

>>weeks before the monarchy is due to be abolished.

>>

>>King Gyanendra will likely be the last ruler of a centuries' old dynasty by

>>fiercely republican Maoists who scored a surprise victory in landmark

>>elections last month.

>>

>> " Panchabali (five animal sacrifice) is undertaken to get power, to get what

>>you wish for and to ensure the well-being of the family, " Mod Raj

>>Bhattarai, a royal priest, told AFP at the elaborate temple ceremony.

>>

>> " This puja (ceremony) will bring good consequences to the world and to

>>Nepal, " he predicted.

>>

>>The Maoists have vowed that the monarchy will be scrapped during the first

>>sitting of the constitutional assembly, which is due to meet before the end

>>of the month.

>>

>>Gyanendra -- who drove himself in a jeep in a small convoy to the temple in

>>a deep gorge 18 kilometres (11 miles) south of Kathmandu -- smiled and put

>>his hands together in the traditional " namaste " greeting when questioned by

>>reporters.

>>

>> " I came here to see the king and pay him my respects as this might be the

>>last chance, " said Tseten Sherpa, a Buddhist monk from a monastery nearby,

>>told AFP.

>>

>>The usually dour-looking king appeared relaxed throughout the annual

>>ceremony and he had clearly lost weight, an AFP reporter at the scene said.

>>

>>Several dozen royalists also attended the dark and secluded Dakshinkali

>>temple, telling AFP that getting rid of the monarchy would be a mistake.

>>

>> " The king is part of our culture and traditions. He must remain. He is the

>>symbol of sovereignty and nationalism in the country, " said Tirtha Man

>>Lama, 82, who was a member of a royally-appointed government in the late

>>1950s.

>>

>>At the height of the ceremony, temple assistants slit the throats of a

>>duck, chicken, lamb, goat and buffalo before the king and queen in an

>>ancient tradition of offerings to Kali, the Hindu goddess of death and

>>destruction.

>>

>>As blood flowed, the animals were decapitated in front of a fearsome Kali

>>statue. Their livers were cut out and placed in a small container that the

>>king took back to the palace.

>>

>>Seen by supporters as a reincarnation of the Hindu protector Vishnu, the

>>king's fall from god-king to sidelined monarch has been spectacular.

>>

>>The 61-year-old has already been stripped of most of his powers, including

>>his roles as head of state and army chief.

>>

>>Gyanendra took the throne in 2001 in tragic and bizarre circumstances after

>>a drunk and drugged crown prince massacred nine members of the royal family

>>and then killed himself, after being forbidden from marrying the woman he

>>loved.

>>

>>Already unpopular when he came to the throne, his popularity hit rock

>>bottom when he sacked the government and took direct control of the

>>impoverished nation in February 2005.

>>

>>The move pushed Nepal's mainstream political parties into a tactical

>>alliance with their former foes, the Maoist insurgents, and resulted in the

>>landmark 2006 peace pact that ended a civil war in which more than 13,000

>>people died.

>>

>>

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>please suggest how best this man`s FAILED attempts can be used to

>educate the masses and end the murders.

 

 

Appoint Gyanendra high commissioner of elephant polo, in

recognition of his alleged longtime support of the sponsors by

imbibing their products in elephantine volume.

 

Based on Gyanendra's record as king, this should achieve the

prompt & complete economic collapse and abolition of elephant polo,

along with complete public repudiation of everything Gyanendra stands

for, including animal sacrifice.

 

He could then be nominated to fill the first open position

within the military dictatorship of Myanmar.

 

 

 

--

Merritt Clifton

Editor, ANIMAL PEOPLE

P.O. Box 960

Clinton, WA 98236

 

Telephone: 360-579-2505

Fax: 360-579-2575

E-mail: anmlpepl

Web: www.animalpeoplenews.org

 

[ANIMAL PEOPLE is the leading independent newspaper providing

original investigative coverage of animal protection worldwide,

founded in 1992. Our readership of 30,000-plus includes the

decision-makers at more than 10,000 animal protection organizations.

We have no alignment or affiliation with any other entity. $24/year;

for free sample, send address.]

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Not to fear, the king is ³dead² so to speak. His crowd is being ushered out

for an all new rebuilding-nepal Maoist one. I would expect that with a

little pressure in the upcoming next years these sorts of sacrifices will be

looked upon with the scorn and loathing by the red scythe, and perhaps by

³re-educated² Hindus as well. The current king is actually looking for a

job now, so prospective corrupt governments looking for a leader should send

applications ASAP to the palace (soon to be the People¹s Place). We (nepali

animal orgs) have high hopes for the new red leadership agog with rights

reforms and rhetoric about the rebuilding of the nation. Women, Children,

Minorities, ...and perhaps Animal rights can be squeezed in? Looks good so

far...

Jigs

Www.animalnepal.org

 

 

 

 

 

 

Merritt Clifton <anmlpepl

Tue, 13 May 2008 12:47:09 -0700

<aapn >

Re: (NP) King attends Hindu animal sacrifice, 'power'

ceremony in Nepal

 

 

 

 

>please suggest how best this man`s FAILED attempts can be used to

>educate the masses and end the murders.

 

Appoint Gyanendra high commissioner of elephant polo, in

recognition of his alleged longtime support of the sponsors by

imbibing their products in elephantine volume.

 

Based on Gyanendra's record as king, this should achieve the

prompt & complete economic collapse and abolition of elephant polo,

along with complete public repudiation of everything Gyanendra stands

for, including animal sacrifice.

 

He could then be nominated to fill the first open position

within the military dictatorship of Myanmar.

 

--

Merritt Clifton

Editor, ANIMAL PEOPLE

P.O. Box 960

Clinton, WA 98236

 

Telephone: 360-579-2505

Fax: 360-579-2575

E-mail: anmlpepl <anmlpepl%40whidbey.com>

Web: www.animalpeoplenews.org

 

[ANIMAL PEOPLE is the leading independent newspaper providing

original investigative coverage of animal protection worldwide,

founded in 1992. Our readership of 30,000-plus includes the

decision-makers at more than 10,000 animal protection organizations.

We have no alignment or affiliation with any other entity. $24/year;

for free sample, send address.]

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Oh, yes. Very well pointed Merritt. I almost forgot this man`s contributions

in promoting elephant circus.

 

I think the best platform to start with where this man`s misdeeds can be

exposed in length and breadth is 'Animal People'.

As the leading independent newspaper providing original investigative

coverage of animal protection worldwide and with a readership of

30,000-plus, that includes the decision-makers at more than 10,000 animal

protection organizations, it would definitely help in nailing him down.

 

Maybe a poll or a survey of the present day world`s most notorious animal

murderers, or something like PETA does like announcing the 'Worst' dressed

celeb (men-women) related to people wearing animal skins/ furs etc.

 

May I know if this suggestion makes any sense?

 

 

Azam

 

 

 

On Wed, May 14, 2008 at 1:17 AM, Merritt Clifton <anmlpepl

wrote:

 

> please suggest how best this man`s FAILED attempts can be used to

> > educate the masses and end the murders.

> >

>

>

> Appoint Gyanendra high commissioner of elephant polo, in

> recognition of his alleged longtime support of the sponsors by imbibing

> their products in elephantine volume.

>

> Based on Gyanendra's record as king, this should achieve the

> prompt & complete economic collapse and abolition of elephant polo, along

> with complete public repudiation of everything Gyanendra stands for,

> including animal sacrifice.

>

> He could then be nominated to fill the first open position within

> the military dictatorship of Myanmar.

>

>

>

> --

> Merritt Clifton

> Editor, ANIMAL PEOPLE

> P.O. Box 960

> Clinton, WA 98236

>

> Telephone: 360-579-2505

> Fax: 360-579-2575

> E-mail: anmlpepl

> Web: www.animalpeoplenews.org

>

> [ANIMAL PEOPLE is the leading independent newspaper providing original

> investigative coverage of animal protection worldwide, founded in 1992. Our

> readership of 30,000-plus includes the decision-makers at more than 10,000

> animal protection organizations. We have no alignment or affiliation with

> any other entity. $24/year; for free sample, send address.]

>

 

 

 

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http://www.stopelephantpolo.com

 

 

 

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>please suggest how best this man`s FAILED attempts can be used to

educate the masses and end the murders.

 

I feel he can start a newspaper to educate the masses about ONLY

premiere & old animal welfare / rights organizations India. He can also

name the newspaper 'People for Themselves' & can circulate over 400

branches across the country! (Through this he can claim, this

organization has changed the country's animal's condition. Also there

are fight among those braches & head every week which he can hi-light.

He can hi-light people & publish photo of vaccinating dogs in Bombay who

do hi-society animal welfare by sitting in AC cars / meeting rooms. He

can also make a story on retirement of NGO head, who is a foreigner to

educate the masses.

 

 

Regards,

 

 

Nilesh Bhanage

Cell : +91 9820161114

" Hands that help are holier than lips that pray. "

" United Against Elephant Polo "

" Read Book - 'Mad Dogs & English Women', a Biography of Crystal Rogers

who founded Help In Suffering, CUPA & Animal's Friend "

 

 

Merritt Clifton [anmlpepl]

Wednesday, May 14, 2008 1:17 AM

aapn

Re: (NP) King attends Hindu animal sacrifice, 'power'

ceremony in Nepal

 

>please suggest how best this man`s FAILED attempts can be used to

>educate the masses and end the murders.

 

Appoint Gyanendra high commissioner of elephant polo, in

recognition of his alleged longtime support of the sponsors by

imbibing their products in elephantine volume.

 

Based on Gyanendra's record as king, this should achieve the

prompt & complete economic collapse and abolition of elephant polo,

along with complete public repudiation of everything Gyanendra stands

for, including animal sacrifice.

 

He could then be nominated to fill the first open position

within the military dictatorship of Myanmar.

 

--

Merritt Clifton

Editor, ANIMAL PEOPLE

P.O. Box 960

Clinton, WA 98236

 

Telephone: 360-579-2505

Fax: 360-579-2575

E-mail: anmlpepl <anmlpepl%40whidbey.com>

Web: www.animalpeoplenews.org

 

[ANIMAL PEOPLE is the leading independent newspaper providing

original investigative coverage of animal protection worldwide,

founded in 1992. Our readership of 30,000-plus includes the

decision-makers at more than 10,000 animal protection organizations.

We have no alignment or affiliation with any other entity. $24/year;

for free sample, send address.]

 

 

 

 

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Dear Lucia & Jigs

 

I was discussing this issue with who is based in Kolkata city

and this is what he had to say:

 

" Well he would not be able to sacrifice animals publicly in Kalighat for

there is a ruling against it. and if it is known beforehand that he is

planning an animal sacrifice act, it will be thwarted.

Debasisda used very strong language in denouncing the king when he wanted to

sacrifice an animal here the last time. the message reached a wide

audience " .

 

Debasis Chakrabarti is the founder of Compassionate Crusaders Trust (CCT)

and also to holds a top position with the 'People for Animals' Kolkata.

He is a very respected voice in the state and also the neighbouring states

such as Orissa (where most of the sacrifices take place). I would suggest

that we get in touch with him as well and seek information on the future

course of actions including any existing rules/ bans on animal sacrifices

that have come up recently.

 

who has closely worked with Mr. Debasis also pointed a very

important point and that is the role of the security forces specially the

Police as to how they escort VIPs to help them execute a successful

sacrifice while ignoring the animal people voices. This is what he had to

say:

 

" I must give credit to Debasisda for he has made a dent in the police's

treatment of animals. They have agreed to surrender their retired horses and

pay for their upkeep. I was speaking of his role against the Nepali king

last time he was here. Debasisda told the press that i dare him to sacrifice

an animal here, ultimately there was no open sacrifice. there was no

sacrifice probably and even if there was, it was hidden. "

 

Mr Debasis Chakrabarti is an AAPN member, so I hope he must be reading the

discussions on this issue. He is also contactable through email:

animalcrusader

 

Azam

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

On Wed, May 14, 2008 at 7:29 AM, Herojig <herojig wrote:

 

> Not to fear, the king is ³dead² so to speak. His crowd is being ushered

> out

> for an all new rebuilding-nepal Maoist one. I would expect that with a

> little pressure in the upcoming next years these sorts of sacrifices will

> be

> looked upon with the scorn and loathing by the red scythe, and perhaps by

> ³re-educated² Hindus as well. The current king is actually looking for a

> job now, so prospective corrupt governments looking for a leader should

> send

> applications ASAP to the palace (soon to be the People¹s Place). We

> (nepali

> animal orgs) have high hopes for the new red leadership agog with rights

> reforms and rhetoric about the rebuilding of the nation. Women, Children,

> Minorities, ...and perhaps Animal rights can be squeezed in? Looks good so

> far...

> Jigs

> Www.animalnepal.org

>

> Merritt Clifton <anmlpepl <anmlpepl%40whidbey.com>>

> Tue, 13 May 2008 12:47:09 -0700

> <aapn <aapn%40>>

> Re: (NP) King attends Hindu animal sacrifice, 'power'

> ceremony in Nepal

>

> >please suggest how best this man`s FAILED attempts can be used to

> >educate the masses and end the murders.

>

> Appoint Gyanendra high commissioner of elephant polo, in

> recognition of his alleged longtime support of the sponsors by

> imbibing their products in elephantine volume.

>

> Based on Gyanendra's record as king, this should achieve the

> prompt & complete economic collapse and abolition of elephant polo,

> along with complete public repudiation of everything Gyanendra stands

> for, including animal sacrifice.

>

> He could then be nominated to fill the first open position

> within the military dictatorship of Myanmar.

>

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Religion, religion, religion. Religion, as Peter Singer says, is our foe.

For animal rights(and civilised behaviour) to succeed we must get rid of the

religious tradition. Once, that is done, the king could be appointed as

in-charge of elephant polo and can submit his nomination in Burma. But it is

nice to note that his actions are being scrutinised closely in India.

 

On 5/14/08, Merritt Clifton <anmlpepl wrote:

>

> >please suggest how best this man`s FAILED attempts can be used to

> >educate the masses and end the murders.

>

> Appoint Gyanendra high commissioner of elephant polo, in

> recognition of his alleged longtime support of the sponsors by

> imbibing their products in elephantine volume.

>

> Based on Gyanendra's record as king, this should achieve the

> prompt & complete economic collapse and abolition of elephant polo,

> along with complete public repudiation of everything Gyanendra stands

> for, including animal sacrifice.

>

> He could then be nominated to fill the first open position

> within the military dictatorship of Myanmar.

>

> --

> Merritt Clifton

> Editor, ANIMAL PEOPLE

> P.O. Box 960

> Clinton, WA 98236

>

> Telephone: 360-579-2505

> Fax: 360-579-2575

> E-mail: anmlpepl <anmlpepl%40whidbey.com>

> Web: www.animalpeoplenews.org

>

> [ANIMAL PEOPLE is the leading independent newspaper providing

> original investigative coverage of animal protection worldwide,

> founded in 1992. Our readership of 30,000-plus includes the

> decision-makers at more than 10,000 animal protection organizations.

> We have no alignment or affiliation with any other entity. $24/year;

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Religion is not our foe. Even though I am not what people would call a

" devout " Hindu, I am proud to call myself a Hindu.

 

The Universe is too small for two Gods and my God is a benevolent being

who does not need the stupid spilling of blood

to be propitiated.

 

All religions preach kindness - to animals and to our fellow humans.

Some religious leaders may be our foes and these are people

who give religions a bad name.

 

The nearer the temple, the further from God.

 

S. Chinny Krishna

 

 

 

aapn [aapn ] On Behalf Of

 

14 May 2008 12:35

Merritt Clifton

Cc: aapn

Re: (NP) King attends Hindu animal sacrifice, 'power'

ceremony in Nepal

 

Religion, religion, religion. Religion, as Peter Singer says, is our

foe.

For animal rights(and civilised behaviour) to succeed we must get rid of

the

religious tradition. Once, that is done, the king could be appointed as

in-charge of elephant polo and can submit his nomination in Burma. But

it is

nice to note that his actions are being scrutinised closely in India.

 

On 5/14/08, Merritt Clifton <anmlpepl (AT) whidbey (DOT)

<anmlpepl%40whidbey.com> com> wrote:

>

> >please suggest how best this man`s FAILED attempts can be used to

> >educate the masses and end the murders.

>

> Appoint Gyanendra high commissioner of elephant polo, in

> recognition of his alleged longtime support of the sponsors by

> imbibing their products in elephantine volume.

>

> Based on Gyanendra's record as king, this should achieve the

> prompt & complete economic collapse and abolition of elephant polo,

> along with complete public repudiation of everything Gyanendra stands

> for, including animal sacrifice.

>

> He could then be nominated to fill the first open position

> within the military dictatorship of Myanmar.

>

> --

> Merritt Clifton

> Editor, ANIMAL PEOPLE

> P.O. Box 960

> Clinton, WA 98236

>

> Telephone: 360-579-2505

> Fax: 360-579-2575

> E-mail: anmlpepl (AT) whidbey (DOT) <anmlpepl%40whidbey.com> com

<anmlpepl%40whidbey.com>

> Web: www.animalpeoplenews.org

>

> [ANIMAL PEOPLE is the leading independent newspaper providing

> original investigative coverage of animal protection worldwide,

> founded in 1992. Our readership of 30,000-plus includes the

> decision-makers at more than 10,000 animal protection organizations.

> We have no alignment or affiliation with any other entity. $24/year;

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Dear colleagues,

I agree with Dr Krishna when he says that all

religions preach good things. Very truly said. Where I respectfully differ

with him is that all religions, especially monotheistic religions, preach

evil things too like spilling blood, killing, torturing etc. This is not

what I am saying. Please read the religious texts for yourself and make up

your mind. I fervently do wish there were more compassionate Hindus like Dr

Krishna but I prefer to call myself a rationalist than a Hindu although I

was born in a Hindu family. (It is quite dangerous to speak of children

belonging to a particular religion before they can make up their mind and

make a choice. The zoologist Richard Dawkins says the following about

religious beliefs: " What I think may be abuse is labeling children with

religious labels like Catholic child and Muslim child. I find it very odd

that in our civilization we're quite happy to speak of a Catholic child that

is 4 years old or a Muslim of child that is 4, when these children are much

too young to know what they think about the cosmos, life and morality. We

wouldn't dream of speaking of a Keynesian child or a Marxist child. And yet,

for some reason we make a privileged exception of religion. And, by the way,

I think it would also be abuse to talk about an atheist child. " ) I would

also like to point out that all religions contradict themselves and each

other. How do we reconcile with the religious contradictions?

Dr Krishna speaks about the universe being too small for two Gods, but is

it not true that the Hindu religion provides for many Gods? When we accept

the existence or divinity of religion, we assume that there are some issues

that are laid out to be sacrosanct no matter what logic defies them. And

here is where the problem lies. For example, in the last Asia for Animals

conference in Madras, there were religious leaders from all the major

religions speaking but there was no rationalist voice on the forum. Why, can

I ask? I am not saying that all hell broke loose or heavens cried injustice

due to the absence of a rationalist voice on the religious platform but what

I am saying is that assuming and equating religion with divinity is only

part of the picture. A rationalist on a religious platform can criticise

religious beliefs by pointing out the absurdity of animal cruelty on the

grounds of pure logic rather than belief and faith. But this aspect of

reasoning was missing in Madras.

I respect and applaud the fact that Dr Krishna is highlighting the

compassionate portions of religion. But what makes me sceptical of the

effectiveness of such an effort is that there are sections of religion that

provide for animal killing. Given a choice between compassion and cruelty to

animals as outlined in religion, which one do I choose as a layman? Religion

is the principal hindrance in the debate on Creationism versus evolution in

the US and my opinion is that if we accept evolution and start thinking of

ourselves as animals we are likely to treat other species better. I am

attaching an article on religion by animal rights activist and zoologist

Richard Dawkins for the perusal of all members of this list(And sincerely

hope that Dawkins will be invited in any forum that discusses animal rights

and religion). My personal belief concurs with what Dawkins says about God:

" The great beauty of Darwin's theory of evolution is that it explains how

complex, difficult to understand things could have arisen step by plausible

step, from simple, easy to understand beginnings. We start our explanation

from almost infinitely simple beginnings: pure hydrogen and a huge amount of

energy. Our scientific, Darwinian explanations carry us through a series of

well-understood gradual steps to all the spectacular beauty and complexity

of life. Science offers us an explanation of how complexity (the difficult)

arose out of simplicity (the easy). The hypothesis of God offers no

worthwhile explanation for anything, for it simply postulates what we are

trying to explain. It postulates the difficult to explain, and leaves it at

that. We cannot prove that there is no God, but we can safely conclude that

He is very, very improbable indeed. "

However, in the short term I would support any initiative that interprets

religions and the notion of a God to benefit man and animal alike although I

might disagree with the wider picture.

Regards and best wishes,

 

http://www.simonyi.ox.ac.uk/dawkins/WorldOfDawkins-archive/Dawkins/Work/Articles\

/1994-12religion.shtml

The " know-nothings " , the " know-alls " , and the " no-contests " *(has no

official title)*

------------------------------

 

*A lecture by Richard Dawkins extracted from The Nullifidian (Dec 94)*

------------------------------

 

Richard Dawkins, well-known for his books on evolution, took part in a

debate with the Archbishop of York, Dr John Habgood, on the existence of God

at the Edinburgh science festival last Easter. [Easter '92 ed.] The science

correspondent of *The Observer* reported that the " withering " Richard

Dawkins clearly believed the " God should be spoken of in the same way as

Father Christmas or the Tooth Fairy " . He [the correspondent] overheard a

gloomy cleric comment on the debate: " That was easy to sum up. Lions 10,

Christians nil " .

 

------------------------------

 

Religious people split into three main groups when faced with science. I

shall label them the " know-nothings " , the " know-alls " , and the

" no-contests " . I suspect that Dr John Habgood, the Archbishop of York,

probably belongs to the third of these groups, so I shall begin with them.

 

The " no-contests " are rightly reconciled to the fact that religion cannot

compete with science on its own ground. They think there is no contest

between science and religion, because they are simply about different

things. the biblical account of the origin of the universe (the origin of

life, the diversity of species, the origin of man) -- all those things are

now known to be untrue.

 

The " no-contests " have no trouble with this: they regard it as naive in the

extreme, almost bad taste to ask of a biblical story, is it true? True, they

say, true? Of course it isn't true in any crude literal sense. Science and

religion are not competing for the same territory. They are about different

things. They are equally true, but in their different ways.

 

A favourite and thoroughly meaningless phrase is " religious dimension " . You

meet this in statements such as " science is all very well as far as it goes,

but it leaves out the religious dimension " .

 

The " know-nothings " , or fundamentalists, are in one way more honest. They

are true to history. They recognize that until recently one of religion's

main functions was scientific: the explanation of existence, of the

universe, of life. Historically, most religions have had or even been a

cosmology and a biology. I suspect that today if you asked people to justify

their belief in God, the dominant reason would be scientific. Most people, I

believe, think that you need a God to explain the existence of the world,

and especially the existence of life. They are wrong, but our education

system is such that many people don't know it.

 

They are also true to history because you can't escape the scientific

implications of religion. A universe with a God would like quite different

from a universe without one. A physics, a biology where there is a God is

bound to look different. So the most basic claims of religion

*are*scientific. Religion *is* a scientific theory.

 

I am sometimes accused of arrogant intolerance in my treatment of

creationists. Of course arrogance is an unpleasant characteristic, and I

should hate to be thought arrogant in a general way. But there are limits!

To get some idea of what it is like being a professional student of

evolution, asked to have a serious debate with creationists, the following

comparison is a fair one. Imagine yourself a classical scholar who has spent

a lifetime studying Roman history in all its rich detail. Now somebody comes

along, with a degree in marine engineering or mediaeval musicology, and

tries to argue that the Romans never existed. Wouldn't you find it hard to

suppress your impatience? And mightn't it look a bit like arrogance?

 

My third group, the " know-alls " (I unkindly name them that because I find

their position patronising), think religion is good for people, perhaps good

for society. Perhaps good because it consoles them in death or bereavement,

perhaps because it provides a moral code.

 

Whether or not the actual beliefs of the religion are true doesn't matter.

Maybe there isn't a God; we educated people know there is precious little

evidence for one, let alone for ideas such as the Virgin birth or the

Resurrection. but the uneducated masses need a God to keep them out of

mischief or to comfort them in bereavement. The little matter of God's

probably non-existence can be brushed to one side in the interest of greater

social good. I need say not more about the " know-alls " because they wouldn't

claim to have anything to contribute to scientific truth.

Is God a Superstring?

 

I shall now return to the " no-contests " . The argument they mount is

certainly worth serious examination, but I think that we shall find it has

little more merit than those of the other groups.

 

God is not an old man with a white beard in the sky. Right then, what is

God? And now come the weasel words. these are very variable. " God is not out

there, he is in all of us. " God is the ground of all being. " " God is the

essence of life. " " God is the universe. " " Don't you believe in the

universe? " " Of course I believe in the universe. " " Then you believe in God. "

" God is love, don't you believe in love? " " Right, then you believe in God? "

 

Modern physicists sometimes wax a bit mystical when they contemplate

questions such as why the big bang happened when it did, why the laws of

physics are these laws and not those laws, why the universe exists at all,

and so on. Sometimes physicists may resort to saying that there is an inner

core of mystery that we don't understand, and perhaps never can; and they

may then say that perhaps this inner core of mystery is another name for

God. Or in Stephen Hawkings's words, if we understand these things, we shall

perhaps " know the mind of God. "

 

The trouble is that God in this sophisticated, physicist's sense bears no

resemblance to the God of the Bible or any other religion. If a physicist

says God is another name for Planck's constant, or God is a superstring, we

should take it as a picturesque metaphorical way of saying that the nature

of superstrings or the value of Planck's constant is a profound mystery. It

has obviously not the smallest connection with a being capable of forgiving

sins, a being who might listen to prayers, who cares about whether or not

the Sabbath begins at 5pm or 6pm, whether you wear a veil or have a bit of

arm showing; and no connection whatever with a being capable of imposing a

death penalty on His son to expiate the sins of the world before and after

he was born.

The Fabulous Bible

 

The same is true of attempts to identify the big bang of modern cosmology

with the myth of Genesis. There is only an utterly trivial resemblance

between the sophisticated conceptions of modern physics, and the creation

myths of the Babylonians and the Jews that we have inherited.

 

What do the " no-contests " say about those parts of scripture and religious

teaching that once-upon-a-time would have been unquestioned religious and

scientific truths; the creation of the world the creation of life, the

various miracles of the Old and New Testaments,, survival after death, the

Virgin Birth? These stories have become, in the hands of the " no-contests " ,

little more than moral fables, the equivalent of Aesop or Hans Anderson.

There is nothing wrong with that, but it is irritating that they almost

never admit this is what they are doing.

 

For instance, I recently heard the previous Chief Rabbi, Sir Immanuel

Jacobovits, talking about the evils of racism. Racism is evil, and it

deserves a better argument against it than the one he gave. Adam and Eve, he

argued, were the ancestors of all human kind. Therefore, all human kind

belongs to one race, the human race.

 

What are we going to make of an argument like that? The Chief Rabbi is an

educated man, he obviously doesn't believe in Adam and Eve, so what exactly

did he think he was saying?

 

He must have been using Adam and Eve as a fable, just as one might use the

story of Jack the Giantkiller or Cinderella to illustrate some laudable

moral homily.

 

I have the impression that clergymen are so used to treating the biblical

stories as fables that they have forgotten the difference between fact and

fiction. It's like the people who, when somebody dies on *The Archers*,

write letters of condolence to the others.

Inheriting Religion

 

As a Darwinian, something strikes me when I look at religion. Religion shows

a pattern of heredity which I think is similar to genetic heredity. The vast

majority of people have an allegiance to one particular religion. there are

hundreds of different religious sects, and every religious person is loyal

to just one of those.

 

Out of all of the sects in the world, we notice an uncanny coincidence: the

overwhelming majority just happen to choose the one that their parents

belong to. Not the sect that has the best evidence in its favour, the best

miracles, the best moral code, the best cathedral, the best stained glass,

the best music: when it comes to choosing from the smorgasbord of available

religions, their potential virtues seem to count for nothing, compared to

the matter of heredity.

 

This is an unmistakable fact; nobody could seriously deny it. Yet people

with full knowledge of the arbitrary nature of this heredity, somehow manage

to go on believing in *their* religion, often with such fanaticism that they

are prepared to murder people who follow a different one.

 

Truths about the cosmos are true all around the universe. They don't differ

in Pakistan, Afghanistan, Poland, or Norway. Yet, we are apparently prepared

to accept that the religion we adopt is a matter of an accident of

geography.

 

If you ask people why they are convinced of the truth of their religion,

they don't appeal to heredity. Put like that it sounds too obviously stupid.

Nor do they appeal to evidence. There isn't any, and nowadays the better

educated admit it. No, they appeal to faith. Faith is the great cop-out, the

great excuse to evade the need to think and evaluate evidence. Faith is

belief in spite of, even perhaps because of, the lack of evidence. The worst

thing is that the rest of us are supposed to respect it: to treat it with

kid gloves.

 

If a slaughterman doesn't comply with the law in respect of cruelty to

animals, he is rightly prosecuted and punished. but if he complains that his

cruel practices are necessitated by religious faith, we back off

apologetically and allow him to get on with it. Any other position that

someone takes up can expect to be defended with reasoned argument. Faith is

allowed not to justify itself by argument. Faith must be respected; and if

you don't respect it, you are accused of violating human rights.

 

Even those with no faith have been brainwashed into respecting the faith of

others. When so-called Muslim community leaders go on the radio and advocate

the killing of Salman Rushdie, they are clearly committing incitement to

murder--a crime for which they would ordinarily be prosecuted and possibly

imprisoned. But are they arrested? They are not, because our secular society

" respects " their faith, and sympathises with the deep " hurt " and " insult " to

it.

 

Well I don't. I will respect your views if you can justify them. but if you

justify your views only by saying you have faith in them, I shall not

respect them.

Improbabilities

 

I want to end by returning to science. It is often said, mainly by the

" no-contests " , that although there is no positive evidence for the existence

of God, nor is there evidence against his existence. So it is best to keep

an open mind and be agnostic.

 

At first sight that seems an unassailable position, at least in the weak

sense of Pascal's wager. But on second thoughts it seems a cop-out, because

the same could be said of Father Christmas and tooth fairies. There may be

fairies at the bottom of the garden. There is no evidence for it, but you

can't *prove* that there aren't any, so shouldn't we be agnostic with

respect to fairies?

 

The trouble with the agnostic argument is that it can be applied to

anything. There is an infinite number of hypothetical beliefs we could hold

which we can't positively disprove. On the whole, people don't believe in

most of them, such as fairies, unicorns, dragons, Father Christmas, and so

on. But on the whole they do believe in a creator God, together with

whatever particular baggage goes with the religion of their parents.

 

I suspect the reason is that most people, though not belonging to the

" know-nothing " party, nevertheless have a residue of feeling that Darwinian

evolution isn't quite big enough to explain everything about life. All I can

say as a biologist is that the feeling disappears progressively the more you

read about and study what is known about life and evolution.

 

I want to add one thing more. The more you understand the significance of

evolution, the more you are pushed away from the agnostic position and

towards atheism. Complex, statistically improbable things are by their

nature more difficult to explain than simple, statistically probable things.

 

 

The great beauty of Darwin's theory of evolution is that it explains how

complex, difficult to understand things could have arisen step by plausible

step, from simple, easy to understand beginnings. We start our explanation

from almost infinitely simple beginnings: pure hydrogen and a huge amount of

energy. Our scientific, Darwinian explanations carry us through a series of

well-understood gradual steps to all the spectacular beauty and complexity

of life.

 

The alternative hypothesis, that it was all started by a supernatural

creator, is not only superfluous, it is also highly improbable. It falls

foul of the very argument that was originally put forward in its favour.

This is because any God worthy of the name must have been a being of

colossal intelligence, a supermind, an entity of extremely low

probability--a very improbable being indeed.

 

Even if the postulation of such an entity explained anything (and we don't

need it to), it still wouldn't help because it raises a bigger mystery than

it solves.

 

Science offers us an explanation of how complexity (the difficult) arose out

of simplicity (the easy). The hypothesis of God offers no worthwhile

explanation for anything, for it simply postulates what we are trying to

explain. It postulates the difficult to explain, and leaves it at that. We

cannot prove that there is no God, but we can safely conclude the He is

very, very improbable indeed.

------------------------------

 

*This was a lecture by Richard Dawkins extracted from The Nullifidian (Dec

94)*

 

 

 

On 5/14/08, Dr.Chinny Krishna <drkrishna wrote:

>

> Religion is not our foe. Even though I am not what people would call a

> " devout " Hindu, I am proud to call myself a Hindu.

>

>

>

> The Universe is too small for two Gods and my God is a benevolent being

> who does not need the stupid spilling of blood

>

> to be propitiated.

>

>

>

> All religions preach kindness – to animals and to our fellow humans. Some

> religious leaders may be our foes and these are people

>

> who give religions a bad name.

>

>

>

> The nearer the temple, the further from God.

>

>

>

> S. Chinny Krishna

>

>

>

>

> ** aapn [aapn ] *On Behalf Of

*

> Ghosh

> *Sent:* 14 May 2008 12:35

> *To:* Merritt Clifton

> *Cc:* aapn

> *Subject:* Re: (NP) King attends Hindu animal sacrifice, 'power'

> ceremony in Nepal

>

>

>

> Religion, religion, religion. Religion, as Peter Singer says, is our foe.

> For animal rights(and civilised behaviour) to succeed we must get rid of

> the

> religious tradition. Once, that is done, the king could be appointed as

> in-charge of elephant polo and can submit his nomination in Burma. But it

> is

> nice to note that his actions are being scrutinised closely in India.

>

> On 5/14/08, Merritt Clifton <anmlpepl <anmlpepl%40whidbey.com>>

> wrote:

> >

> > >please suggest how best this man`s FAILED attempts can be used to

> > >educate the masses and end the murders.

> >

> > Appoint Gyanendra high commissioner of elephant polo, in

> > recognition of his alleged longtime support of the sponsors by

> > imbibing their products in elephantine volume.

> >

> > Based on Gyanendra's record as king, this should achieve the

> > prompt & complete economic collapse and abolition of elephant polo,

> > along with complete public repudiation of everything Gyanendra stands

> > for, including animal sacrifice.

> >

> > He could then be nominated to fill the first open position

> > within the military dictatorship of Myanmar.

> >

> > --

> > Merritt Clifton

> > Editor, ANIMAL PEOPLE

> > P.O. Box 960

> > Clinton, WA 98236

> >

> > Telephone: 360-579-2505

> > Fax: 360-579-2575

> > E-mail: anmlpepl <anmlpepl%40whidbey.com> <anmlpepl%

> 40whidbey.com>

> > Web: www.animalpeoplenews.org

> >

> > [ANIMAL PEOPLE is the leading independent newspaper providing

> > original investigative coverage of animal protection worldwide,

> > founded in 1992. Our readership of 30,000-plus includes the

> > decision-makers at more than 10,000 animal protection organizations.

> > We have no alignment or affiliation with any other entity. $24/year;

> > for free sample, send address.]

> >

> >

>

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