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1. The Myanmar cyclone and

 

2. The China Quake.

 

Both of the above disasters have left the two nations in a state that we all

are aware of.

 

After getting Jill`s mail which explains the need of immediate funding (and

this is not a small amount), must not we explore all ways of how to beg,

borrow or steal it from all sources and help Animals Asia in every way we

can.

Imagine if the people of China and Burma (Myanmar) come to know of this

awesome sacrifice by the animal people of this globe who instead of

attending the conference wish to donate the savings of air-fare/ hotel

expenses/ conference registrations and divert them to the aid of their

animals.

Certainly this gesture would go a long way in helping the Chinese/ Burmese

authorities to look more humanely towards the animals.

We can also speak with the sponsors and tell them that the best way to

utilize and contribute to animal welfare NOW is not in sponsoring an AFA but

to sponsor the activities of Animal Asia, SPCA-HK, IFAW and other

organisations who are tirelessly working day in and day out but the miseries

simply seem to be getting worse.

 

With due respect to the note Merritt has written, and as someone who shares

the same opinion with him that conferences are a warehouse of education

which we all need.

But let us not be self centered at the moment, let us not work on how to

improve our personal standards when such a crisis is over our heads.

Jill and their Animals Asia team have taught us many good things through the

past conferences and this is the time to pay them back.

I feel that this is a time that we must macro FOCUS on those who need the

FUNDS on priority. By saying this I am not ignoring the needs of the other

non Chinese/ Myanmar organisations.

As for all of us, there is always a next time.

Maybe we can have a more GALA conference God willing next year if all goes

well.

For this year let us make AAPN a more happening forum till we get that

online thingy fixed.

 

Cheers !!

 

Azam

 

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http://www.stopelephantpolo.com

http://www.freewebs.com/azamsiddiqui

 

 

 

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Thank you Azam, it is a thoughtful suggestion, but I believe that the

educational benefits in attending AfA, that you and Merritt rightly

highlight in previous messages, are too important to ignore. The theme

for the conference - Lessons Learned - couldn't be more apt from our

perspective. Certainly my own presentation will now widen from

discussing bear management to what we have learned here in Sichuan

during the course of our work with companion animals in the earthquake

affected areas.

 

Many presenters and attendees have a wealth of experience to share in

this respect and I know there is much we can do to improve in all areas

of disaster relief together. I would hate to lose this opportunity to

share the rights... and wrongs.

Looking forward to seeing everyone there, Jill

 

Jill Robinson MBE

Founder & CEO

Animals Asia Foundation

 

Find out about our latest moon bear rescue in Chengdu, China

and Friends....or Food

http://www.animalsasia.org

 

 

 

AZAM SIDDIQUI wrote:

>

> 1. The Myanmar cyclone and

>

> 2. The China Quake.

>

> Both of the above disasters have left the two nations in a state that

> we all

> are aware of.

>

> After getting Jill`s mail which explains the need of immediate funding

> (and

> this is not a small amount), must not we explore all ways of how to beg,

> borrow or steal it from all sources and help Animals Asia in every way we

> can.

> Imagine if the people of China and Burma (Myanmar) come to know of this

> awesome sacrifice by the animal people of this globe who instead of

> attending the conference wish to donate the savings of air-fare/ hotel

> expenses/ conference registrations and divert them to the aid of their

> animals.

> Certainly this gesture would go a long way in helping the Chinese/ Burmese

> authorities to look more humanely towards the animals.

> We can also speak with the sponsors and tell them that the best way to

> utilize and contribute to animal welfare NOW is not in sponsoring an

> AFA but

> to sponsor the activities of Animal Asia, SPCA-HK, IFAW and other

> organisations who are tirelessly working day in and day out but the

> miseries

> simply seem to be getting worse.

>

> With due respect to the note Merritt has written, and as someone who

> shares

> the same opinion with him that conferences are a warehouse of education

> which we all need.

> But let us not be self centered at the moment, let us not work on how to

> improve our personal standards when such a crisis is over our heads.

> Jill and their Animals Asia team have taught us many good things

> through the

> past conferences and this is the time to pay them back.

> I feel that this is a time that we must macro FOCUS on those who need the

> FUNDS on priority. By saying this I am not ignoring the needs of the other

> non Chinese/ Myanmar organisations.

> As for all of us, there is always a next time.

> Maybe we can have a more GALA conference God willing next year if all goes

> well.

> For this year let us make AAPN a more happening forum till we get that

> online thingy fixed.

>

> Cheers !!

>

> Azam

>

> --

> United against elephant polo

> http://www.stopelephantpolo.com <http://www.stopelephantpolo.com>

> http://www.freewebs.com/azamsiddiqui

> <http://www.freewebs.com/azamsiddiqui>

>

>

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Hi Azam,

 

I can understand that you feel we should help the Chinese, but why the

Burmese? We are not granted any access nor any control how (read if) any aid

is distributed to the victims. Are you suggesting to send money without

strings attached to their government ? I am sure the Burmese military will

soon put it all on a personal account in Switzerland... Furthermore you say;

" Certainly this gesture would go a long way in helping the Chinese/ Burmese

authorities to look more humanely towards the animals. " Do you actually

believe that either one of these two horrible regimes will learn to have any

respect for animals if they can't even show any respect for humans, giving

their past and current suppression of minorities and people that think

different? I don't think so. I personally do not believe in supporting

governments like this in any way and support complete isolation of these

monsters. I would suggest you (and everyone else) spend their money where

they think they can make the biggest difference , even if that is to attend

a conference.

 

PS the so called disaster relief is almost a fashion thing, I have seen all

those animal and human NGO's walking around Southern Thailand after the

Tsunami doing nothing else then making pictures for fundraising, some of

them were only there because they felt their presence was expected by

others. Wouldn't be surprised if that happens now again in Burma and China.

The thoughts of Kim strike me also as very relevant on the future of so

called " rescued " animals, when at what moment does the disaster relief

actually end?

 

 

Edwin Wiek

WFFT Thailand

_____

 

aapn [aapn ] On Behalf Of AZAM

SIDDIQUI

Friday, 06 June, 2008 4:47 PM

aapn

Two reasons to avoid AFA- 2008

 

 

 

1. The Myanmar cyclone and

 

2. The China Quake.

 

Both of the above disasters have left the two nations in a state that we all

are aware of.

 

After getting Jill`s mail which explains the need of immediate funding (and

this is not a small amount), must not we explore all ways of how to beg,

borrow or steal it from all sources and help Animals Asia in every way we

can.

Imagine if the people of China and Burma (Myanmar) come to know of this

awesome sacrifice by the animal people of this globe who instead of

attending the conference wish to donate the savings of air-fare/ hotel

expenses/ conference registrations and divert them to the aid of their

animals.

Certainly this gesture would go a long way in helping the Chinese/ Burmese

authorities to look more humanely towards the animals.

We can also speak with the sponsors and tell them that the best way to

utilize and contribute to animal welfare NOW is not in sponsoring an AFA but

to sponsor the activities of Animal Asia, SPCA-HK, IFAW and other

organisations who are tirelessly working day in and day out but the miseries

simply seem to be getting worse.

 

With due respect to the note Merritt has written, and as someone who shares

the same opinion with him that conferences are a warehouse of education

which we all need.

But let us not be self centered at the moment, let us not work on how to

improve our personal standards when such a crisis is over our heads.

Jill and their Animals Asia team have taught us many good things through the

past conferences and this is the time to pay them back.

I feel that this is a time that we must macro FOCUS on those who need the

FUNDS on priority. By saying this I am not ignoring the needs of the other

non Chinese/ Myanmar organisations.

As for all of us, there is always a next time.

Maybe we can have a more GALA conference God willing next year if all goes

well.

For this year let us make AAPN a more happening forum till we get that

online thingy fixed.

 

Cheers !!

 

Azam

 

--

United against elephant polo

http://www.stopelep <http://www.stopelephantpolo.com> hantpolo.com

http://www.freewebs <http://www.freewebs.com/azamsiddiqui> .com/azamsiddiqui

 

 

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Couldn't agree more, Jill.

 

 

 

See you all there.

 

David Wong

 

 

 

_____

 

aapn [aapn ] On Behalf Of Jill

Robinson

Saturday, June 07, 2008 7:30 AM

AZAM SIDDIQUI

Cc: aapn

Re: Two reasons to avoid AFA- 2008

 

 

 

Thank you Azam, it is a thoughtful suggestion, but I believe that the

educational benefits in attending AfA, that you and Merritt rightly

highlight in previous messages, are too important to ignore. The theme

for the conference - Lessons Learned - couldn't be more apt from our

perspective. Certainly my own presentation will now widen from

discussing bear management to what we have learned here in Sichuan

during the course of our work with companion animals in the earthquake

affected areas.

 

Many presenters and attendees have a wealth of experience to share in

this respect and I know there is much we can do to improve in all areas

of disaster relief together. I would hate to lose this opportunity to

share the rights... and wrongs.

Looking forward to seeing everyone there, Jill

 

Jill Robinson MBE

Founder & CEO

Animals Asia Foundation

 

Find out about our latest moon bear rescue in Chengdu, China

and Friends....or Food

http://www.animalsa <http://www.animalsasia.org> sia.org

 

AZAM SIDDIQUI wrote:

>

> 1. The Myanmar cyclone and

>

> 2. The China Quake.

>

> Both of the above disasters have left the two nations in a state that

> we all

> are aware of.

>

> After getting Jill`s mail which explains the need of immediate funding

> (and

> this is not a small amount), must not we explore all ways of how to beg,

> borrow or steal it from all sources and help Animals Asia in every way we

> can.

> Imagine if the people of China and Burma (Myanmar) come to know of this

> awesome sacrifice by the animal people of this globe who instead of

> attending the conference wish to donate the savings of air-fare/ hotel

> expenses/ conference registrations and divert them to the aid of their

> animals.

> Certainly this gesture would go a long way in helping the Chinese/ Burmese

> authorities to look more humanely towards the animals.

> We can also speak with the sponsors and tell them that the best way to

> utilize and contribute to animal welfare NOW is not in sponsoring an

> AFA but

> to sponsor the activities of Animal Asia, SPCA-HK, IFAW and other

> organisations who are tirelessly working day in and day out but the

> miseries

> simply seem to be getting worse.

>

> With due respect to the note Merritt has written, and as someone who

> shares

> the same opinion with him that conferences are a warehouse of education

> which we all need.

> But let us not be self centered at the moment, let us not work on how to

> improve our personal standards when such a crisis is over our heads.

> Jill and their Animals Asia team have taught us many good things

> through the

> past conferences and this is the time to pay them back.

> I feel that this is a time that we must macro FOCUS on those who need the

> FUNDS on priority. By saying this I am not ignoring the needs of the other

> non Chinese/ Myanmar organisations.

> As for all of us, there is always a next time.

> Maybe we can have a more GALA conference God willing next year if all goes

> well.

> For this year let us make AAPN a more happening forum till we get that

> online thingy fixed.

>

> Cheers !!

>

> Azam

>

> --

> United against elephant polo

> http://www.stopelep <http://www.stopelephantpolo.com> hantpolo.com

<http://www.stopelep <http://www.stopelephantpolo.com> hantpolo.com>

> http://www.freewebs <http://www.freewebs.com/azamsiddiqui>

..com/azamsiddiqui

> <http://www.freewebs <http://www.freewebs.com/azamsiddiqui>

..com/azamsiddiqui>

>

>

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Dear Edwin,

 

Let me write you our experience of floods of Mumbai in July 2005.

 

I run small NGO 'PAWS' compared to the 'Leaders'. I shared my experience that

time on AAPN. First time in my life I saw a disaster. The Mobile networks Jam,

trains halted on spot, Water & electrical connections lost, my father didn't

came back from his job. I felt like we landed on some planet. My younger brother

Pradip who is that time Cameraman with zee news informed that buffalos were

floating dead on water & some of them are tied in stables. The rain water is

going in ears, eyes & mouth of buffalos.

 

If the person like me will just keep quiet at that time, then I have no rights

to do animal welfare. I personally went to all volunteers house taken them, took

ambulance started collecting unwanted vegetables from market & reached to spot.

Firstly we released all buffalo that are tied-up, then we started 'RESCUING'

calves which were floating in water. RESCUE means - we catched them, shifted

them to high area in Kalyan city where there is no flooded water. Many had to be

treated for their wounds & leg injures. We could not rescue many calves who went

in Ulhas river water as well as stuck-up in electrical boards. No matter

municipal workers & fire brigade helped us a lot. They use to take food after 12

hours working. There are few buffalo calves & buffalos tangled in wire, trees.

 

I had seen the mother buffalo died on spot because she could not run out of

stable & the poor calf was standing on the dead mother's body & survived. We had

to release & RESCUE the calf which was already infected with Pneumonia. Removing

carcasses from stables was another hectic job, many times we had to break the

walls with municipal dumpers & remove the dead one & RESCUE the alive one.

 

 

We worked from 8th July till 15th August till all routine life started running

back as normal. First help came from Kartick for medicines; neither had we gone

to any international group not we felt that our presence should be there. Our

presence was must there as no other NGO is existing except us. There lots of

International Animal related magazines made articles & International NGO's

offered their help (They are always looking out & wait for such opportunities).

But we did that job by our money & funds & own volunteers.

 

If the NGO's will not do RESCUE then who will feed the contents of disaster

column to these animal / bird magazines / newspaper? They themselves created

their own hero in these areas to keep them making news.

 

Regards,

 

Nilesh Bhanage

Tel : 0251 - 2625059

Cell : 09820161114

" Hand that help is more holier than lips that pray! "

 

 

Edwin Wiek [edwin.wiek]

Saturday, June 07, 2008 12:16 PM

aapn

FW: Two reasons to avoid AFA- 2008

 

Hi Azam,

 

I can understand that you feel we should help the Chinese, but why the

Burmese? We are not granted any access nor any control how (read if) any aid

is distributed to the victims. Are you suggesting to send money without

strings attached to their government ? I am sure the Burmese military will

soon put it all on a personal account in Switzerland... Furthermore you say;

" Certainly this gesture would go a long way in helping the Chinese/ Burmese

authorities to look more humanely towards the animals. " Do you actually

believe that either one of these two horrible regimes will learn to have any

respect for animals if they can't even show any respect for humans, giving

their past and current suppression of minorities and people that think

different? I don't think so. I personally do not believe in supporting

governments like this in any way and support complete isolation of these

monsters. I would suggest you (and everyone else) spend their money where

they think they can make the biggest difference , even if that is to attend

a conference.

 

PS the so called disaster relief is almost a fashion thing, I have seen all

those animal and human NGO's walking around Southern Thailand after the

Tsunami doing nothing else then making pictures for fundraising, some of

them were only there because they felt their presence was expected by

others. Wouldn't be surprised if that happens now again in Burma and China.

The thoughts of Kim strike me also as very relevant on the future of so

called " rescued " animals, when at what moment does the disaster relief

actually end?

 

 

Edwin Wiek

WFFT Thailand

_____

 

aapn <aapn%40>

[aapn <aapn%40> ] On Behalf Of AZAM

SIDDIQUI

Friday, 06 June, 2008 4:47 PM

aapn

Two reasons to avoid AFA- 2008

 

1. The Myanmar cyclone and

 

2. The China Quake.

 

Both of the above disasters have left the two nations in a state that we all

are aware of.

 

After getting Jill`s mail which explains the need of immediate funding (and

this is not a small amount), must not we explore all ways of how to beg,

borrow or steal it from all sources and help Animals Asia in every way we

can.

Imagine if the people of China and Burma (Myanmar) come to know of this

awesome sacrifice by the animal people of this globe who instead of

attending the conference wish to donate the savings of air-fare/ hotel

expenses/ conference registrations and divert them to the aid of their

animals.

Certainly this gesture would go a long way in helping the Chinese/ Burmese

authorities to look more humanely towards the animals.

We can also speak with the sponsors and tell them that the best way to

utilize and contribute to animal welfare NOW is not in sponsoring an AFA but

to sponsor the activities of Animal Asia, SPCA-HK, IFAW and other

organisations who are tirelessly working day in and day out but the miseries

simply seem to be getting worse.

 

With due respect to the note Merritt has written, and as someone who shares

the same opinion with him that conferences are a warehouse of education

which we all need.

But let us not be self centered at the moment, let us not work on how to

improve our personal standards when such a crisis is over our heads.

Jill and their Animals Asia team have taught us many good things through the

past conferences and this is the time to pay them back.

I feel that this is a time that we must macro FOCUS on those who need the

FUNDS on priority. By saying this I am not ignoring the needs of the other

non Chinese/ Myanmar organisations.

As for all of us, there is always a next time.

Maybe we can have a more GALA conference God willing next year if all goes

well.

For this year let us make AAPN a more happening forum till we get that

online thingy fixed.

 

Cheers !!

 

Azam

 

--

United against elephant polo

http://www.stopelep <http://www.stopelephantpolo.com

<http://www.stopelephantpolo.com> > hantpolo.com

http://www.freewebs <http://www.freewebs.com/azamsiddiqui

<http://www.freewebs.com/azamsiddiqui> > .com/azamsiddiqui

 

 

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Edwin,

 

Lemme clear the confusion. I meant aiding the animals in distress both in

China and Myanmar.

I am suggesting to assist those organisations who are involved on the ground

in the post disaster rescue & rehab efforts.

Animals Asia has been not only spearheading the animal rescue work in some

of the worst affected regions of China but has assisted in saving human

lives as well. Infact we filed a report on Animals Asia`s rescue work for

NDTV where you would be surprised to know that Jill and her team were shown

aiding the human victims and not animals, something which is so unique and a

lesson which we all should learn.

The reason that our bureau chief Mr. Kishalay Bhattacharjee insisted on

highlighting this aspect of service is so that the animal people are not

regarded as a community that is biased.

I posted a weblink link to the news report on AAPN which was aired globally

on Television and electronic news media.

I am sure the Chinese authorities would be proud of Animals Asia for

providing this yeoman service to their citizens.

 

Similarly IFAW has appealed for aid as their team is still eagerly waiting

for a green signal from the Burmese Junta. This whole world is just hoping

for the best, hoping that just as the UN chief`s visit could help in

sneaking some aid, maybe in sometime the Junta leaders hearts might melt.

No harm in trying or helping those who are trying, right Edwin?

If Ban Ki Moon can make a breakthrough I do not understand why we cant.

When there are serious people on the job, I am sure there can be enormous

breakthroughs in facilitating aid to animals in China and also to Myanmar

(hopefully).

Even I was skeptic about the Chinese government and sometime back was

protesting to boycott the Olympics, till Jill justified the negatives of

such a protest by the animal people and how it can affect the good work that

is presntly on swing with regards to animal welfare in China.

 

I am not suggesting that we pump the two Governments with funds, but yes

what I am trying to say is to help ease the funding crisis that has been

projected by Jill & IFAW. And I am atleast 100% confident that every penny

sent to Animals Asia would be spent for a cause, whether it is the animals

or humans they have proved that their attitude towards life of any form is

equal.

 

>the so called disaster relief is almost a fashion thing<

 

The above is a general statement Edwin. Yes, you may have your reasons to

say so, but such a general statement is would only make those genuinely

sacrificing a little sad, specially when it comes from someone who has so

much credibility and experience in this field.

 

 

Azam

 

 

 

 

 

On 6/7/08, Edwin Wiek <edwin.wiek wrote:

>

> Hi Azam,

>

> I can understand that you feel we should help the Chinese, but why the

> Burmese? We are not granted any access nor any control how (read if) any

> aid

> is distributed to the victims. Are you suggesting to send money without

> strings attached to their government ? I am sure the Burmese military will

> soon put it all on a personal account in Switzerland... Furthermore you

> say;

> " Certainly this gesture would go a long way in helping the Chinese/ Burmese

> authorities to look more humanely towards the animals. " Do you actually

> believe that either one of these two horrible regimes will learn to have

> any

> respect for animals if they can't even show any respect for humans, giving

> their past and current suppression of minorities and people that think

> different? I don't think so. I personally do not believe in supporting

> governments like this in any way and support complete isolation of these

> monsters. I would suggest you (and everyone else) spend their money where

> they think they can make the biggest difference , even if that is to attend

> a conference.

>

> PS the so called disaster relief is almost a fashion thing, I have seen all

> those animal and human NGO's walking around Southern Thailand after the

> Tsunami doing nothing else then making pictures for fundraising, some of

> them were only there because they felt their presence was expected by

> others. Wouldn't be surprised if that happens now again in Burma and China.

> The thoughts of Kim strike me also as very relevant on the future of so

> called " rescued " animals, when at what moment does the disaster relief

> actually end?

>

>

> Edwin Wiek

> WFFT Thailand

> _____

>

> aapn <aapn%40> [

> aapn <aapn%40>] On Behalf Of AZAM

> SIDDIQUI

> Friday, 06 June, 2008 4:47 PM

> aapn

> Two reasons to avoid AFA- 2008

>

> 1. The Myanmar cyclone and

>

> 2. The China Quake.

>

> Both of the above disasters have left the two nations in a state that we

> all

> are aware of.

>

> After getting Jill`s mail which explains the need of immediate funding (and

> this is not a small amount), must not we explore all ways of how to beg,

> borrow or steal it from all sources and help Animals Asia in every way we

> can.

> Imagine if the people of China and Burma (Myanmar) come to know of this

> awesome sacrifice by the animal people of this globe who instead of

> attending the conference wish to donate the savings of air-fare/ hotel

> expenses/ conference registrations and divert them to the aid of their

> animals.

> Certainly this gesture would go a long way in helping the Chinese/ Burmese

> authorities to look more humanely towards the animals.

> We can also speak with the sponsors and tell them that the best way to

> utilize and contribute to animal welfare NOW is not in sponsoring an AFA

> but

> to sponsor the activities of Animal Asia, SPCA-HK, IFAW and other

> organisations who are tirelessly working day in and day out but the

> miseries

> simply seem to be getting worse.

>

> With due respect to the note Merritt has written, and as someone who shares

> the same opinion with him that conferences are a warehouse of education

> which we all need.

> But let us not be self centered at the moment, let us not work on how to

> improve our personal standards when such a crisis is over our heads.

> Jill and their Animals Asia team have taught us many good things through

> the

> past conferences and this is the time to pay them back.

> I feel that this is a time that we must macro FOCUS on those who need the

> FUNDS on priority. By saying this I am not ignoring the needs of the other

> non Chinese/ Myanmar organisations.

> As for all of us, there is always a next time.

> Maybe we can have a more GALA conference God willing next year if all goes

> well.

> For this year let us make AAPN a more happening forum till we get that

> online thingy fixed.

>

> Cheers !!

>

> Azam

>

> --

> United against elephant polo

> http://www.stopelep <http://www.stopelephantpolo.com> hantpolo.com

> http://www.freewebs <http://www.freewebs.com/azamsiddiqui>

> .com/azamsiddiqui

>

>

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One good cause is never a good reason to reject/avoid a second, If you

feel strongly about one or the other and have only one option, feel that

is where you will get or be the most benefit, go to it, get involved

and report your experience welcomingly to the rest, but never allow a good

cause to become an instrument to dampen enthusiasm for a second .

Look for ways for the one to compliment the other. ;- )

 

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" AZAM SIDDIQUI " <azam24x7

" aapn " <aapn >

Friday, June 06, 2008 6:46 AM

Two reasons to avoid AFA- 2008

 

 

> 1. The Myanmar cyclone and

>

> 2. The China Quake.

>

> Both of the above disasters have left the two nations in a state that we

all

> are aware of.

>

> After getting Jill`s mail which explains the need of immediate funding

(and

> this is not a small amount), must not we explore all ways of how to beg,

> borrow or steal it from all sources and help Animals Asia in every way we

> can.

> Imagine if the people of China and Burma (Myanmar) come to know of this

> awesome sacrifice by the animal people of this globe who instead of

> attending the conference wish to donate the savings of air-fare/ hotel

> expenses/ conference registrations and divert them to the aid of their

> animals.

> Certainly this gesture would go a long way in helping the Chinese/ Burmese

> authorities to look more humanely towards the animals.

> We can also speak with the sponsors and tell them that the best way to

> utilize and contribute to animal welfare NOW is not in sponsoring an AFA

but

> to sponsor the activities of Animal Asia, SPCA-HK, IFAW and other

> organisations who are tirelessly working day in and day out but the

miseries

> simply seem to be getting worse.

>

> With due respect to the note Merritt has written, and as someone who

shares

> the same opinion with him that conferences are a warehouse of education

> which we all need.

> But let us not be self centered at the moment, let us not work on how to

> improve our personal standards when such a crisis is over our heads.

> Jill and their Animals Asia team have taught us many good things through

the

> past conferences and this is the time to pay them back.

> I feel that this is a time that we must macro FOCUS on those who need the

> FUNDS on priority. By saying this I am not ignoring the needs of the other

> non Chinese/ Myanmar organisations.

> As for all of us, there is always a next time.

> Maybe we can have a more GALA conference God willing next year if all goes

> well.

> For this year let us make AAPN a more happening forum till we get that

> online thingy fixed.

>

> Cheers !!

>

> Azam

>

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Hi Azam,

 

I think you are making a conclusion about something I didn't say. I never

questioned the work of Jill or AA at all. They are on the ground there and

it is there home base. Of course they will do all they can and it is an

extremely ugly job especially the first few days when there is death and

misery all around them. I can only wish them all strength in helping out as

I know very well how difficult it is especially the first hours after the

disaster. Still the question is how do you aid animals if you can not get to

them and you can not trust the local authorities you or others are forced to

work through? That is the issue in Burma. Ban Ki Moon made a breakthrough?

Veni, Vidi, Vici.... He went, he watched and said he got what he wanted. Now

lots of NGO staff are stuck in hotels in Yangon waiting to get permission to

go to the disaster area while the clock is still ticking. Most that came

back to Bangkok were frustrated that they were not able to do much, seeing

their food aid disappear in military trucks while rotting rice was

distributed to the villagers.

 

If you really believe that the heart of the Junta will melt seeing a few

people help out victims in their country I think you are thinking of another

country, maybe Lalaland. Wake up Azam, these people have so much blood on

their hands, and now even put over a million people at risk of disease and

starvation, it is not very likely they will remember what " sympathy or

compassion " means.

 

As for the general statement, maybe, but it is a general feeling. I was

involved with some preperations in the last weeks to send in a team to Burma

(as Thai vets and doctors were allowed in) but under the conditions the

Junta sets it would not be ethically correct and we pulled out as it turned

into a PR show. Some organizations don't seem to have a problem with this,

we do. And please Azam I am not calling names so don't reply again

concluding with someone's personal name or any organization.

 

From my military background I can tell you that the Burma resistance might

actually get stronger if the misery there continues on a longer term and

people suffer badly for a longer time. It might make on the shorter term

more victims, but will speed up the liberation of a country that is being

suppressed by their military leader, saving many lives over the longer term.

I know this is not a popular statement, but believe it is true.

 

 

 

Cheers,

 

 

Edwin

 

 

 

 

_____

 

AZAM SIDDIQUI [azam24x7]

Saturday, 07 June, 2008 7:51 PM

edwin.wiek

Cc: aapn

Re: FW: Two reasons to avoid AFA- 2008

 

 

Edwin,

 

Lemme clear the confusion. I meant aiding the animals in distress both in

China and Myanmar.

I am suggesting to assist those organisations who are involved on the ground

in the post disaster rescue & rehab efforts.

Animals Asia has been not only spearheading the animal rescue work in some

of the worst affected regions of China but has assisted in saving human

lives as well. Infact we filed a report on Animals Asia`s rescue work for

NDTV where you would be surprised to know that Jill and her team were shown

aiding the human victims and not animals, something which is so unique and a

lesson which we all should learn. The reason that our bureau chief Mr.

Kishalay Bhattacharjee insisted on highlighting this aspect of service is so

that the animal people are not regarded as a community that is biased.

I posted a weblink link to the news report on AAPN which was aired globally

on Television and electronic news media.

I am sure the Chinese authorities would be proud of Animals Asia for

providing this yeoman service to their citizens.

 

Similarly IFAW has appealed for aid as their team is still eagerly waiting

for a green signal from the Burmese Junta. This whole world is just hoping

for the best, hoping that just as the UN chief`s visit could help in

sneaking some aid, maybe in sometime the Junta leaders hearts might melt.

No harm in trying or helping those who are trying, right Edwin?

If Ban Ki Moon can make a breakthrough I do not understand why we cant.

When there are serious people on the job, I am sure there can be enormous

breakthroughs in facilitating aid to animals in China and also to Myanmar

(hopefully).

Even I was skeptic about the Chinese government and sometime back was

protesting to boycott the Olympics, till Jill justified the negatives of

such a protest by the animal people and how it can affect the good work that

is presntly on swing with regards to animal welfare in China.

 

I am not suggesting that we pump the two Governments with funds, but yes

what I am trying to say is to help ease the funding crisis that has been

projected by Jill & IFAW. And I am atleast 100% confident that every penny

sent to Animals Asia would be spent for a cause, whether it is the animals

or humans they have proved that their attitude towards life of any form is

equal.

 

>the so called disaster relief is almost a fashion thing<

 

The above is a general statement Edwin. Yes, you may have your reasons to

say so, but such a general statement is would only make those genuinely

sacrificing a little sad, specially when it comes from someone who has so

much credibility and experience in this field.

 

 

Azam

 

 

 

 

 

On 6/7/08, Edwin Wiek <edwin.wiek wrote:

 

Hi Azam,

 

I can understand that you feel we should help the Chinese, but why the

Burmese? We are not granted any access nor any control how (read if) any aid

is distributed to the victims. Are you suggesting to send money without

strings attached to their government ? I am sure the Burmese military will

soon put it all on a personal account in Switzerland... Furthermore you say;

" Certainly this gesture would go a long way in helping the Chinese/ Burmese

authorities to look more humanely towards the animals. " Do you actually

believe that either one of these two horrible regimes will learn to have any

respect for animals if they can't even show any respect for humans, giving

their past and current suppression of minorities and people that think

different? I don't think so. I personally do not believe in supporting

governments like this in any way and support complete isolation of these

monsters. I would suggest you (and everyone else) spend their money where

they think they can make the biggest difference , even if that is to attend

a conference.

 

PS the so called disaster relief is almost a fashion thing, I have seen all

those animal and human NGO's walking around Southern Thailand after the

Tsunami doing nothing else then making pictures for fundraising, some of

them were only there because they felt their presence was expected by

others. Wouldn't be surprised if that happens now again in Burma and China.

The thoughts of Kim strike me also as very relevant on the future of so

called " rescued " animals, when at what moment does the disaster relief

actually end?

 

 

Edwin Wiek

WFFT Thailand

_____

 

aapn <aapn%40>

[aapn <aapn%40> ] On Behalf Of

AZAM

SIDDIQUI

Friday, 06 June, 2008 4:47 PM

aapn

Two reasons to avoid AFA- 2008

 

 

 

1. The Myanmar cyclone and

 

2. The China Quake.

 

Both of the above disasters have left the two nations in a state that we all

are aware of.

 

After getting Jill`s mail which explains the need of immediate funding (and

this is not a small amount), must not we explore all ways of how to beg,

borrow or steal it from all sources and help Animals Asia in every way we

can.

Imagine if the people of China and Burma (Myanmar) come to know of this

awesome sacrifice by the animal people of this globe who instead of

attending the conference wish to donate the savings of air-fare/ hotel

expenses/ conference registrations and divert them to the aid of their

animals.

Certainly this gesture would go a long way in helping the Chinese/ Burmese

authorities to look more humanely towards the animals.

We can also speak with the sponsors and tell them that the best way to

utilize and contribute to animal welfare NOW is not in sponsoring an AFA but

to sponsor the activities of Animal Asia, SPCA-HK, IFAW and other

organisations who are tirelessly working day in and day out but the miseries

simply seem to be getting worse.

 

With due respect to the note Merritt has written, and as someone who shares

the same opinion with him that conferences are a warehouse of education

which we all need.

But let us not be self centered at the moment, let us not work on how to

improve our personal standards when such a crisis is over our heads.

Jill and their Animals Asia team have taught us many good things through the

past conferences and this is the time to pay them back.

I feel that this is a time that we must macro FOCUS on those who need the

FUNDS on priority. By saying this I am not ignoring the needs of the other

non Chinese/ Myanmar organisations.

As for all of us, there is always a next time.

Maybe we can have a more GALA conference God willing next year if all goes

well.

For this year let us make AAPN a more happening forum till we get that

online thingy fixed.

 

Cheers !!

 

Azam

 

--

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<http://www.stopelephantpolo.com/> > hantpolo.com <http://hantpolo.com/>

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Dear All,

 

I am compelled to comment on the suggestion below that we should only

help animals and not people. What are we to judge that local people are

not also animal lovers and the guardian of their own animals? How dare

we to suggest that the way to " rescue " animals is to take them away from

the Chinese? Stories coming out of China's earthquake zone demonstrating

the bond and love between people and animals are countless, as the

attached photo article from Chinese government media, the Xinhua news

agency shows.

 

When many areas in the quake zone started to implement dog culling to

prevent disease, " mass dog killing " orders were questioned and

criticized by people around China. In the quake zone, people have

witnessed the heroic efforts of search and rescue dogs and many people's

lives were saved because of dogs. To many quake survivors, their family

pet may be the only family member they have left. IFAW's work in ZunDao

is helping local people to help animals. Through providing help to

animals, quake victims in the local community also benefit. IFAW's team

comprised of Chinese veterinarians and emergency response specialists,

went from village to village vaccinating dogs and distributing dog food.

IFAW successfully persuaded government officials in Zun Dao county to

replace dog culling with humane vaccination campaigns.

 

When IFAW team went into villages looking for dogs to vaccinate, at

first we faced skepticism. Villagers were afraid that their dogs might

be killed, so they tried to hide their dogs. When reassured by our team

that we are here to help their animals, they cooperated with us to get

their animals vaccinated. This lady (Ms. Tan) holding a boy in one arm

and a small dog in another, said that the dog came to her after the

earthquake and refused to leave. She felt sorry for the dog and

suspected that the dog must has lost his family in the quake. She

brought the dog to be vaccinated and pledged to provide a home to the

dog.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

IFAW team distributed dog food. In the Chinese country side, normally

people feed dogs table scraps. Many people have never seen dog food.

IFAW team members used this opportunity to explain to people about the

benefit of vaccination, feeding dog food so they do not scavenge, urge

people not to abandon their animals and educate people about other

components of Responsible Pet Ownership. One old lady who lost her grand

daughter in the quake, pledged to the IFAW team that she will take care

of the three dogs left by her grand daughter. IFAW team trained local

veterinarians on use of anesthetic gun and other humane animal handling

techniques. But more importantly, our work raised local awareness about

animal welfare and that humane treatment of animals is really for the

benefit of people. Zun Dao government officials presented IFAW with an

official letter of acknowledgement and called IFAW's help to Zun Dao

" timely rain in a long drought " .

 

By separating animals from people and somehow making a distinction

between helping animals from helping people, we are hurting our own

cause of promoting animal welfare. The calls for boycotting Olympics

because of China's animal welfare record does the same. They not only

hurt the work for groups working in China to change animal policies,

they pit the world against the Chinese, even though we are all love

animals!

 

Best,

Grace

 

 

Grace Ge Gabriel

Asia Regional Director-IFAW

Mobile:+1-508-496-4471(US)

Mobile: +86-13701299387 (China)

www.ifaw.org <http://www.ifaw.org/>

 

 

 

________________________________

 

aapn [aapn ] On Behalf Of

AZAM SIDDIQUI

Saturday, June 07, 2008 8:51 AM

edwin.wiek

Cc: aapn

Re: FW: Two reasons to avoid AFA- 2008

 

 

 

Edwin,

 

Lemme clear the confusion. I meant aiding the animals in distress both

in

China and Myanmar.

I am suggesting to assist those organisations who are involved on the

ground

in the post disaster rescue & rehab efforts.

Animals Asia has been not only spearheading the animal rescue work in

some

of the worst affected regions of China but has assisted in saving human

lives as well. Infact we filed a report on Animals Asia`s rescue work

for

NDTV where you would be surprised to know that Jill and her team were

shown

aiding the human victims and not animals, something which is so unique

and a

lesson which we all should learn.

The reason that our bureau chief Mr. Kishalay Bhattacharjee insisted on

highlighting this aspect of service is so that the animal people are not

regarded as a community that is biased.

I posted a weblink link to the news report on AAPN which was aired

globally

on Television and electronic news media.

I am sure the Chinese authorities would be proud of Animals Asia for

providing this yeoman service to their citizens.

 

Similarly IFAW has appealed for aid as their team is still eagerly

waiting

for a green signal from the Burmese Junta. This whole world is just

hoping

for the best, hoping that just as the UN chief`s visit could help in

sneaking some aid, maybe in sometime the Junta leaders hearts might

melt.

No harm in trying or helping those who are trying, right Edwin?

If Ban Ki Moon can make a breakthrough I do not understand why we cant.

When there are serious people on the job, I am sure there can be

enormous

breakthroughs in facilitating aid to animals in China and also to

Myanmar

(hopefully).

Even I was skeptic about the Chinese government and sometime back was

protesting to boycott the Olympics, till Jill justified the negatives of

such a protest by the animal people and how it can affect the good work

that

is presntly on swing with regards to animal welfare in China.

 

I am not suggesting that we pump the two Governments with funds, but yes

what I am trying to say is to help ease the funding crisis that has been

projected by Jill & IFAW. And I am atleast 100% confident that every

penny

sent to Animals Asia would be spent for a cause, whether it is the

animals

or humans they have proved that their attitude towards life of any form

is

equal.

 

>the so called disaster relief is almost a fashion thing<

 

The above is a general statement Edwin. Yes, you may have your reasons

to

say so, but such a general statement is would only make those genuinely

sacrificing a little sad, specially when it comes from someone who has

so

much credibility and experience in this field.

 

Azam

 

On 6/7/08, Edwin Wiek <edwin.wiek

<edwin.wiek%40wfft.org> > wrote:

>

> Hi Azam,

>

> I can understand that you feel we should help the Chinese, but why the

> Burmese? We are not granted any access nor any control how (read if)

any

> aid

> is distributed to the victims. Are you suggesting to send money

without

> strings attached to their government ? I am sure the Burmese military

will

> soon put it all on a personal account in Switzerland... Furthermore

you

> say;

> " Certainly this gesture would go a long way in helping the Chinese/

Burmese

> authorities to look more humanely towards the animals. " Do you

actually

> believe that either one of these two horrible regimes will learn to

have

> any

> respect for animals if they can't even show any respect for humans,

giving

> their past and current suppression of minorities and people that think

> different? I don't think so. I personally do not believe in supporting

> governments like this in any way and support complete isolation of

these

> monsters. I would suggest you (and everyone else) spend their money

where

> they think they can make the biggest difference , even if that is to

attend

> a conference.

>

> PS the so called disaster relief is almost a fashion thing, I have

seen all

> those animal and human NGO's walking around Southern Thailand after

the

> Tsunami doing nothing else then making pictures for fundraising, some

of

> them were only there because they felt their presence was expected by

> others. Wouldn't be surprised if that happens now again in Burma and

China.

> The thoughts of Kim strike me also as very relevant on the future of

so

> called " rescued " animals, when at what moment does the disaster relief

> actually end?

>

>

> Edwin Wiek

> WFFT Thailand

> _____

>

> aapn <aapn%40>

<aapn%40> [

> aapn <aapn%40>

<aapn%40>] On Behalf Of AZAM

> SIDDIQUI

> Friday, 06 June, 2008 4:47 PM

> aapn

> Two reasons to avoid AFA- 2008

>

> 1. The Myanmar cyclone and

>

> 2. The China Quake.

>

> Both of the above disasters have left the two nations in a state that

we

> all

> are aware of.

>

> After getting Jill`s mail which explains the need of immediate funding

(and

> this is not a small amount), must not we explore all ways of how to

beg,

> borrow or steal it from all sources and help Animals Asia in every way

we

> can.

> Imagine if the people of China and Burma (Myanmar) come to know of

this

> awesome sacrifice by the animal people of this globe who instead of

> attending the conference wish to donate the savings of air-fare/ hotel

> expenses/ conference registrations and divert them to the aid of their

> animals.

> Certainly this gesture would go a long way in helping the Chinese/

Burmese

> authorities to look more humanely towards the animals.

> We can also speak with the sponsors and tell them that the best way to

> utilize and contribute to animal welfare NOW is not in sponsoring an

AFA

> but

> to sponsor the activities of Animal Asia, SPCA-HK, IFAW and other

> organisations who are tirelessly working day in and day out but the

> miseries

> simply seem to be getting worse.

>

> With due respect to the note Merritt has written, and as someone who

shares

> the same opinion with him that conferences are a warehouse of

education

> which we all need.

> But let us not be self centered at the moment, let us not work on how

to

> improve our personal standards when such a crisis is over our heads.

> Jill and their Animals Asia team have taught us many good things

through

> the

> past conferences and this is the time to pay them back.

> I feel that this is a time that we must macro FOCUS on those who need

the

> FUNDS on priority. By saying this I am not ignoring the needs of the

other

> non Chinese/ Myanmar organisations.

> As for all of us, there is always a next time.

> Maybe we can have a more GALA conference God willing next year if all

goes

> well.

> For this year let us make AAPN a more happening forum till we get that

> online thingy fixed.

>

> Cheers !!

>

> Azam

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Dear All,

 

I normally try not to get involved in these types of controversies as

long as something positive is being done for any body or group.

 

I have read and re-read Grace's letter and its attachments in this mail,

and seem to find no mention about taking away animals

from the Chinese or that only animals should be helped and not people.

However, I must add that animal welfare organisations

have as their main mandate the protection of animals and, as far as I

know, much work to help humans has been a collateral affair.

May be I have missed some earlier mail where the suggestions Grace has

objected to have been made.

 

As I keep repeating, one cannot be the most effective animal person if

she/he is not a people person, too.

 

Warm regards.

 

Chinny Krishna

Blue Cross of India

www.bluecrossofindia.org <http://www.bluecrossofindia.org/>

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

aapn [aapn ] On Behalf Of

Gabriel, Grace

13 June 2008 22:15

aapn

Cc: Milburn, Cindy; Cady, AJ

FW: Two reasons to avoid AFA- 2008

 

Dear All,

 

I am compelled to comment on the suggestion below that we should only

help animals and not people. What are we to judge that local people are

not also animal lovers and the guardian of their own animals? How dare

we to suggest that the way to " rescue " animals is to take them away from

the Chinese? Stories coming out of China's earthquake zone demonstrating

the bond and love between people and animals are countless, as the

attached photo article from Chinese government media, the Xinhua news

agency shows.

 

When many areas in the quake zone started to implement dog culling to

prevent disease, " mass dog killing " orders were questioned and

criticized by people around China. In the quake zone, people have

witnessed the heroic efforts of search and rescue dogs and many people's

lives were saved because of dogs. To many quake survivors, their family

pet may be the only family member they have left. IFAW's work in ZunDao

is helping local people to help animals. Through providing help to

animals, quake victims in the local community also benefit. IFAW's team

comprised of Chinese veterinarians and emergency response specialists,

went from village to village vaccinating dogs and distributing dog food.

IFAW successfully persuaded government officials in Zun Dao county to

replace dog culling with humane vaccination campaigns.

 

When IFAW team went into villages looking for dogs to vaccinate, at

first we faced skepticism. Villagers were afraid that their dogs might

be killed, so they tried to hide their dogs. When reassured by our team

that we are here to help their animals, they cooperated with us to get

their animals vaccinated. This lady (Ms. Tan) holding a boy in one arm

and a small dog in another, said that the dog came to her after the

earthquake and refused to leave. She felt sorry for the dog and

suspected that the dog must has lost his family in the quake. She

brought the dog to be vaccinated and pledged to provide a home to the

dog.

 

 

IFAW team distributed dog food. In the Chinese country side, normally

people feed dogs table scraps. Many people have never seen dog food.

IFAW team members used this opportunity to explain to people about the

benefit of vaccination, feeding dog food so they do not scavenge, urge

people not to abandon their animals and educate people about other

components of Responsible Pet Ownership. One old lady who lost her grand

daughter in the quake, pledged to the IFAW team that she will take care

of the three dogs left by her grand daughter. IFAW team trained local

veterinarians on use of anesthetic gun and other humane animal handling

techniques. But more importantly, our work raised local awareness about

animal welfare and that humane treatment of animals is really for the

benefit of people. Zun Dao government officials presented IFAW with an

official letter of acknowledgement and called IFAW's help to Zun Dao

" timely rain in a long drought " .

 

By separating animals from people and somehow making a distinction

between helping animals from helping people, we are hurting our own

cause of promoting animal welfare. The calls for boycotting Olympics

because of China's animal welfare record does the same. They not only

hurt the work for groups working in China to change animal policies,

they pit the world against the Chinese, even though we are all love

animals!

 

Best,

Grace

 

 

Grace Ge Gabriel

Asia Regional Director-IFAW

Mobile:+1-508-496-4471(US)

Mobile: +86-13701299387 (China)

www.ifaw.org <http://www.ifaw. <http://www.ifaw.org/> org/>

 

________________________________

 

aapn (AT) (DOT) <aapn%40> com

[aapn (AT) (DOT) <aapn%40> com] On Behalf

Of

AZAM SIDDIQUI

Saturday, June 07, 2008 8:51 AM

edwin.wiek (AT) wfft (DOT) <edwin.wiek%40wfft.org> org

Cc: aapn (AT) (DOT) <aapn%40> com

Re: FW: Two reasons to avoid AFA- 2008

 

Edwin,

 

Lemme clear the confusion. I meant aiding the animals in distress both

in

China and Myanmar.

I am suggesting to assist those organisations who are involved on the

ground

in the post disaster rescue & rehab efforts.

Animals Asia has been not only spearheading the animal rescue work in

some

of the worst affected regions of China but has assisted in saving human

lives as well. Infact we filed a report on Animals Asia`s rescue work

for

NDTV where you would be surprised to know that Jill and her team were

shown

aiding the human victims and not animals, something which is so unique

and a

lesson which we all should learn.

The reason that our bureau chief Mr. Kishalay Bhattacharjee insisted on

highlighting this aspect of service is so that the animal people are not

regarded as a community that is biased.

I posted a weblink link to the news report on AAPN which was aired

globally

on Television and electronic news media.

I am sure the Chinese authorities would be proud of Animals Asia for

providing this yeoman service to their citizens.

 

Similarly IFAW has appealed for aid as their team is still eagerly

waiting

for a green signal from the Burmese Junta. This whole world is just

hoping

for the best, hoping that just as the UN chief`s visit could help in

sneaking some aid, maybe in sometime the Junta leaders hearts might

melt.

No harm in trying or helping those who are trying, right Edwin?

If Ban Ki Moon can make a breakthrough I do not understand why we cant.

When there are serious people on the job, I am sure there can be

enormous

breakthroughs in facilitating aid to animals in China and also to

Myanmar

(hopefully).

Even I was skeptic about the Chinese government and sometime back was

protesting to boycott the Olympics, till Jill justified the negatives of

such a protest by the animal people and how it can affect the good work

that

is presntly on swing with regards to animal welfare in China.

 

I am not suggesting that we pump the two Governments with funds, but yes

what I am trying to say is to help ease the funding crisis that has been

projected by Jill & IFAW. And I am atleast 100% confident that every

penny

sent to Animals Asia would be spent for a cause, whether it is the

animals

or humans they have proved that their attitude towards life of any form

is

equal.

 

>the so called disaster relief is almost a fashion thing<

 

The above is a general statement Edwin. Yes, you may have your reasons

to

say so, but such a general statement is would only make those genuinely

sacrificing a little sad, specially when it comes from someone who has

so

much credibility and experience in this field.

 

Azam

 

On 6/7/08, Edwin Wiek <edwin.wiek (AT) wfft (DOT) <edwin.wiek%40wfft.org>

org

<edwin.wiek%40wfft.org> > wrote:

>

> Hi Azam,

>

> I can understand that you feel we should help the Chinese, but why the

> Burmese? We are not granted any access nor any control how (read if)

any

> aid

> is distributed to the victims. Are you suggesting to send money

without

> strings attached to their government ? I am sure the Burmese military

will

> soon put it all on a personal account in Switzerland... Furthermore

you

> say;

> " Certainly this gesture would go a long way in helping the Chinese/

Burmese

> authorities to look more humanely towards the animals. " Do you

actually

> believe that either one of these two horrible regimes will learn to

have

> any

> respect for animals if they can't even show any respect for humans,

giving

> their past and current suppression of minorities and people that think

> different? I don't think so. I personally do not believe in supporting

> governments like this in any way and support complete isolation of

these

> monsters. I would suggest you (and everyone else) spend their money

where

> they think they can make the biggest difference , even if that is to

attend

> a conference.

>

> PS the so called disaster relief is almost a fashion thing, I have

seen all

> those animal and human NGO's walking around Southern Thailand after

the

> Tsunami doing nothing else then making pictures for fundraising, some

of

> them were only there because they felt their presence was expected by

> others. Wouldn't be surprised if that happens now again in Burma and

China.

> The thoughts of Kim strike me also as very relevant on the future of

so

> called " rescued " animals, when at what moment does the disaster relief

> actually end?

>

>

> Edwin Wiek

> WFFT Thailand

> _____

>

> aapn (AT) (DOT) <aapn%40> com

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<aapn%40>] On Behalf Of AZAM

> SIDDIQUI

> Friday, 06 June, 2008 4:47 PM

> aapn

> Two reasons to avoid AFA- 2008

>

> 1. The Myanmar cyclone and

>

> 2. The China Quake.

>

> Both of the above disasters have left the two nations in a state that

we

> all

> are aware of.

>

> After getting Jill`s mail which explains the need of immediate funding

(and

> this is not a small amount), must not we explore all ways of how to

beg,

> borrow or steal it from all sources and help Animals Asia in every way

we

> can.

> Imagine if the people of China and Burma (Myanmar) come to know of

this

> awesome sacrifice by the animal people of this globe who instead of

> attending the conference wish to donate the savings of air-fare/ hotel

> expenses/ conference registrations and divert them to the aid of their

> animals.

> Certainly this gesture would go a long way in helping the Chinese/

Burmese

> authorities to look more humanely towards the animals.

> We can also speak with the sponsors and tell them that the best way to

> utilize and contribute to animal welfare NOW is not in sponsoring an

AFA

> but

> to sponsor the activities of Animal Asia, SPCA-HK, IFAW and other

> organisations who are tirelessly working day in and day out but the

> miseries

> simply seem to be getting worse.

>

> With due respect to the note Merritt has written, and as someone who

shares

> the same opinion with him that conferences are a warehouse of

education

> which we all need.

> But let us not be self centered at the moment, let us not work on how

to

> improve our personal standards when such a crisis is over our heads.

> Jill and their Animals Asia team have taught us many good things

through

> the

> past conferences and this is the time to pay them back.

> I feel that this is a time that we must macro FOCUS on those who need

the

> FUNDS on priority. By saying this I am not ignoring the needs of the

other

> non Chinese/ Myanmar organisations.

> As for all of us, there is always a next time.

> Maybe we can have a more GALA conference God willing next year if all

goes

> well.

> For this year let us make AAPN a more happening forum till we get that

> online thingy fixed.

>

> Cheers !!

>

> Azam

 

 

 

 

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