Guest guest Posted July 9, 2008 Report Share Posted July 9, 2008 Dear Dr Krishna, I just read your response to Mr Dharma Rajan who has defended killing animals for scientific study. Unfortunately Mr Dharma Rajan is not the only scientist defending killing animals for study and research. The doyen of Indian ornithology, Salim Ali, was an avid hunter and collector of birds, for study and for sport. He devoted considerable space to the subject of sport hunting and collecting in his autobiography, " The Fall of a Sparrow " and considered conservation guided by the ahimsa principle as misplaced. His appreciation of birds was quite ironical. For instance, take his disenchantment with taxonomy in a letter to his collaborator Sidney Dillon Ripley : " My head reels at all these nomenclatural metaphysics! I feel strongly like retiring from ornithology, if this is the stuff, and spending the rest of my days in the peace of the wilderness with birds, and away from the dust and frenzy of taxonomical warfare. I somehow feel complete detachment from all this, and am thoroughly unmoved by what name one ornithologist chooses to dub a bird that is familiar to me, and care even less in regard to one that is unfamiliar ----- The more I see of these subspecific tangles and inanities, the more I can understand the people who silently raise their eyebrows and put a finger to their temples when they contemplate the modem ornithologist in action. " — Ali to Ripley, 5th January, 1956. And compare it with his support for killing birds for research : " For a scientific approach to bird study, it is often necessary to sacrifice a few, ... (and) I have no doubt that but for the methodical collecting of specimens in my earlier years - several thousands, alas - it would have been impossible to advance our taxonomical knowledge of Indian birds ... nor indeed of their geographic distribution, ecology, and bionomics. " Salim Ali wrote the massive 'Handbook to the Birds of India & Pakistan'. There are roughly 1200 bird species in the Indian subcontinent. People like him would shoot at least three specimens of every species, a male, a female and a juvenile and would repeat the exercise for different regions. Assuming he shot three specimens of every species he encountered(and assuming he encountered all the bird species found in India), Salim Ali must have killed at least 1200 X 3 = 3600 birds in his lifetime. I have a feeling he killed many more even if he did not encounter all the 1200 species found in India. He also shot numerous other animals including gazelles for sport. Today, many animal species scientists and collectors assiduously killed are in danger of vanishing from the planet. Salim Ali could just be one of those who contributed to the precarious present status of endangered birds regardless of his exalted academic and popular status. He also recommended shooting Rose Ringed Parakeets and exporting their meat. Regarding knowledge gained from taxonomy, the American physicist Richard Feynman put it beautifully, " You can know the name of a bird in all the languages of the world, but when you're finished, you'll know absolutely nothing whatever about the bird... So let's look at the bird and see what it's doing -- that's what counts. I learned very early the difference between knowing the name of something and knowing something. " I for one, am glad the Czech scientist is now enjoying Indian hospitality in prison, if only for a few days. I appreciated your response to Mr Dharma Rajan. Thanks. Best wishes and warm regards, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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