The herbivore-carnivore-allbavore debate and this webpage update...

[Guest guest]

Hi all, just got back from a lovely vacation in Pokhara Nepal where the

street dogs are huge and relatively healthy (probably due to municipal

culling where only the weakest and slowest non-beer drinking of the breeds

are captured by inept animal controllers). So I think the pet-food debate is

winding down now, and the answer to the question ³what to feed ur pet to

keep him happy and healthy² is probably sprinkled within many posts here;

but I want to collate that answer into something useable by pet owners onto

this page:

http://www.animalnepal.org/feedingdebate.html

So ur contributions are needed - please help by responding to this thread

and this thread only with ur original vetted thoughts and facts and/or

copies of past comments/facts/tips. I¹ll take it from there after enough

material is gathered and edit into the web page mentioned above. Thanks so

much!

Jigs in Nepal

 

 

On 1/2/09 11:32 PM, " Merritt Clifton " <anmlpepl wrote:

 

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>> >Lifelong vegans may not have difficulty in absorbing B12.

>

> This whole line of argument is wishful thinking, & should be

> discarded outright.

>

> The human need for B12 was discovered in the mid-1950s as

> result of medical investigation of physical problems that were

> crippling British vegans, who had become vegans for religious

> reasons before the term was invented, and had led what appeared to

> be extremely healthy lives in the countryside, doing precisely this--

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>> >If we drank pond water or water from the stream, ate the fermented

>> >foods that our ancestors did and that you find in every culture, did

>> >not use pesticides and fertilisers that kill everything in the soil

>> >and did not irradiate all our fruits and vegetables nor eat stale

>> >food from supermarket shelves full of preservatives which are acidic

>> >and kill bacteria

>

> Vegetarians who led similar lives but were less strictly

> vegan were quite healthy, as expected.

>

> Also worth pointing out is that the whole reason we don't

> still drink pond water or water from the stream is that unpurified

> surface water is the primary medium for disease transmission,

> worldwide, & that diseases carried by water and water-dwelling

> insects (such as mosquitoes) often cut our ancestors' lifespans very

> short.

>

> If we did not use pesticides and fertilizers, global grain

> and vegetable production would be about one third of what it is

> today, and even if animal agriculture ceased entirely, so that all

> grain and vegetable production could go to human consumption, many

> millions of newly made vegans would starve to death -- unless they

> ate the insects who would proliferate without the pesticides.

>

> Incidentally, it is a considerable stretch to assert

> categorically that pesticides and fertilizers " kill everything in the

> soil " in the first place. Some of the earliest synthetic pesticides

> and chemical fertilizers did have toxic effects much broader than

> were intended, but decades of refinement and reformulation have

> followed (frequently under legal & consumer pressure), and the

> typical breakdown time of the pesticides now licensed for use in the

> U.S., Canada, and the European Union is about three days.

>

> The whole purpose of fertilizers is to enhance the growth

> capacity of the soil. It is possible to burn soil by

> over-application of nitrogen, especially when it is applied in the

> most natural form, i.e. as unprocessed chicken poop, but it is

> doubtful that even over-applications of chicken poop do as much harm

> to field ecologies as the now obsolete practice of burning fields

> after each harvest, in order to plow the ashes under.

 

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