Guest guest Posted December 10, 2008 Report Share Posted December 10, 2008 Azam, interesting article which begs the question: can a global meltdown of economies be a good thing for animals? Will meat consumers eat less of it as belts need to tighten? I remember being vegetarian in America where it actually cost me more to feed from Whole Foods, then if I just went hog wild and ate spam and spagetti-os from the local grocer like I did in college. But in Asia, one notices that curry without meat does cost considerably less. So will meat consumption go down? Will this spare more lives on the chopping block? All questions for the day:) Jigs in Nepal On 12/9/08 9:36 PM, " AZAM SIDDIQUI " <azam24x7 wrote: > > > > http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/India/Post-Mumbai_siege_many_to_forego_anim > al_sacrifice_on_Eid/articleshow/3811227.cms > > Post-Mumbai siege, many to forego animal sacrifice on Eid > > 9 Dec 2008, 0506 hrs IST, Mohammed Wajihuddin, TN > > MUMBAI: Nuzhat Ashraf had planned to buy new clothes and bangles, and > apply henna on her hands for Bakr-Eid (Eid-ul-Zuha) on Tuesday. But, > now, she has abandoned the elaborate plans and will just observe the > mandatory rituals. > > " When the city is in grief, it looks odd to dress in new clothes and > jewellery even if it's a happy occasion, " says Nagpada-based Ashraf > who has just completed her graduation from Sophia College. > > Nuzhat isn't alone in marking a modest Bakr-Eid, the most important > Muslim festival after Eid-ul-Fitr (at the end of the fasting month of > Ramzan), this year. In fact, many families have decided for a cut on > the number of goats they had planned to sacrifice. > > Imran Mulla, a resident of Arman Building in Mazgaon says that a > couple of families in his society will forgo the sacrifice of animals, > as a mark of respect for the terror-affected families. Though no > family agreed to say it on record, Mulla claimed some members in his > locality have planned to celebrate Bakr-Eid without sacrificing a > goat. > > However, some youngsters, apart from hanging out with friends might > visit one of the hospitals where the injured of the 26/11 massacre are > recuperating. " Personally, I haven't lost any relative or close friend > in the recent terror attacks, but a visit to one of the hospitals on > one of the three days is what many of my friends and I are planning, " > said Afaque Azad, 26, a sound engineer. -- Paul Reitman, CEO Phoenix Studios Nepal Mobile: 9841589797 www.phoenixstudios.com.np/corporate Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 10, 2008 Report Share Posted December 10, 2008 Frankly, I am not too optimistic that any incident of any magnitude of grief or sorrow can hold back the flesh eating human beings for long. These excuses may seem a positive sign but in reality I am skeptic as to whether it would be practiced by the masses. Yes, exceptions here and there may be there. Going veg here in the Indian cosmopolitan and bigger cities is also somewhat equal to what you had experienced in America. But unlike the US where you have quality control and certified flesh which is permitted for sale and consumption of the consumers, here in India this is hardly practiced. We have unauthorized/ unlicensed butcher shops everywhere selling flesh that the Municipal authorities have cautioned 60% as being infested by anthrax and tuberculosis. In fact now even people from the non-meat eating religions enjoy candidly animal flesh, and this is growing everyday. So such noble announcements of keeping away from killing animals just because the society has seen enough bloodshed, at least is not good enough a reason for me to believe personally that good times are ahead for the voiceless destitute. Here in Assam there is a state warning to the consumption of poultry products due to the confirmation of H5N1 strains found. But the residents are happily ignoring the warning signals. All tandoori joints are decorated in the evenings with roasted dead bodies. Surprisingly the prices of the live and cooked poultry products have not gone down despite the bird flu outbreak. Just the other day you had dozens of Camels been brought from mainland India to Guwahati city for slaughter during Eid. Now the animal husbandry here has set no guidelines on the consumption or breeding of Camels in this state. So whether the animals were inspected for any disease etc before being killed and consumed is a question that the people concerned are least bothered. Please do not be surprised if tomorrow there is an outbreak of any dreaded disease or famine in neighbouring Bangladesh where thousands of cattle heads are being smuggled into from India with no certification. Azam Azam On Wed, Dec 10, 2008 at 5:54 AM, Herojig <herojig wrote: > Azam, interesting article which begs the question: can a global meltdown > of economies be a good thing for animals? Will meat consumers eat less of it > as belts need to tighten? I remember being vegetarian in America where it > actually cost me more to feed from Whole Foods, then if I just went hog wild > and ate spam and spagetti-os from the local grocer like I did in college. > But in Asia, one notices that curry without meat does cost considerably > less. So will meat consumption go down? Will this spare more lives on the > chopping block? All questions for the day:) > Jigs in Nepal > > > > On 12/9/08 9:36 PM, " AZAM SIDDIQUI " <azam24x7 wrote: > > > > > > http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/India/Post-Mumbai_siege_many_to_forego_animal\ _sacrifice_on_Eid/articleshow/3811227.cms > > Post-Mumbai siege, many to forego animal sacrifice on Eid > > 9 Dec 2008, 0506 hrs IST, Mohammed Wajihuddin, TN > > MUMBAI: Nuzhat Ashraf had planned to buy new clothes and bangles, and > apply henna on her hands for Bakr-Eid (Eid-ul-Zuha) on Tuesday. But, > now, she has abandoned the elaborate plans and will just observe the > mandatory rituals. > > " When the city is in grief, it looks odd to dress in new clothes and > jewellery even if it's a happy occasion, " says Nagpada-based Ashraf > who has just completed her graduation from Sophia College. > > Nuzhat isn't alone in marking a modest Bakr-Eid, the most important > Muslim festival after Eid-ul-Fitr (at the end of the fasting month of > Ramzan), this year. In fact, many families have decided for a cut on > the number of goats they had planned to sacrifice. > > Imran Mulla, a resident of Arman Building in Mazgaon says that a > couple of families in his society will forgo the sacrifice of animals, > as a mark of respect for the terror-affected families. Though no > family agreed to say it on record, Mulla claimed some members in his > locality have planned to celebrate Bakr-Eid without sacrificing a > goat. > > However, some youngsters, apart from hanging out with friends might > visit one of the hospitals where the injured of the 26/11 massacre are > recuperating. " Personally, I haven't lost any relative or close friend > in the recent terror attacks, but a visit to one of the hospitals on > one of the three days is what many of my friends and I are planning, " > said Afaque Azad, 26, a sound engineer. > > > -- Paul Reitman, CEO > Phoenix Studios Nepal > Mobile: 9841589797 > > www.phoenixstudios.com.np/corporate > > > -- http://www.stopelephantpolo.com http://www.freewebs.com/azamsiddiqui Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 12, 2008 Report Share Posted December 12, 2008 Hi Jig, Azam, Until a few weeks ago...before the oil prices crashed, it was interesting to see that the vegetable prices were so high in my state that there were people who felt that buying meat such as chicken was a cheaper option. Frankly I dont know the situation now....but am hoping with the change in fuel prices, the tables have changed. Thanks, Pablo. On Wed, Dec 10, 2008 at 9:47 AM, azam24x7 <azam24x7 wrote: > Frankly, I am not too optimistic that any incident of any magnitude of > grief > or sorrow can hold back the flesh eating human beings for long. > These excuses may seem a positive sign but in reality I am skeptic as to > whether it would be practiced by the masses. > Yes, exceptions here and there may be there. > > Going veg here in the Indian cosmopolitan and bigger cities is also > somewhat > equal to what you had experienced in America. > But unlike the US where you have quality control and certified flesh which > is permitted for sale and consumption of the consumers, here in India this > is hardly practiced. > We have unauthorized/ unlicensed butcher shops everywhere selling flesh > that > the Municipal authorities have cautioned 60% as being infested by anthrax > and tuberculosis. > In fact now even people from the non-meat eating religions enjoy candidly > animal flesh, and this is growing everyday. > > So such noble announcements of keeping away from killing animals just > because the society has seen enough bloodshed, at least is not good enough > a > reason for me to believe personally that good times are ahead for the > voiceless destitute. > > Here in Assam there is a state warning to the consumption of poultry > products due to the confirmation of H5N1 strains found. But the residents > are happily ignoring the warning signals. All tandoori joints are decorated > in the evenings with roasted dead bodies. > Surprisingly the prices of the live and cooked poultry products have not > gone down despite the bird flu outbreak. > > Just the other day you had dozens of Camels been brought from mainland > India > to Guwahati city for slaughter during Eid. Now the animal husbandry here > has > set no guidelines on the consumption or breeding of Camels in this state. > So > whether the animals were inspected for any disease etc before being killed > and consumed is a question that the people concerned are least bothered. > > Please do not be surprised if tomorrow there is an outbreak of any dreaded > disease or famine in neighbouring Bangladesh where thousands of cattle > heads > are being smuggled into from India with no certification. > > Azam > > Azam > > On Wed, Dec 10, 2008 at 5:54 AM, Herojig <herojig<herojig%40gmail.com>> > wrote: > > > Azam, interesting article which begs the question: can a global meltdown > > of economies be a good thing for animals? Will meat consumers eat less of > it > > as belts need to tighten? I remember being vegetarian in America where it > > actually cost me more to feed from Whole Foods, then if I just went hog > wild > > and ate spam and spagetti-os from the local grocer like I did in college. > > But in Asia, one notices that curry without meat does cost considerably > > less. So will meat consumption go down? Will this spare more lives on the > > chopping block? All questions for the day:) > > Jigs in Nepal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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