Guest guest Posted February 10, 2009 Report Share Posted February 10, 2009 Thanks for the tip, will contact Pradeep too, but from the other answers I got from Clementien and Dr.Chinny, I understand that, even if I want to use it together with horse and cow-dung, it should be really mixed well with water, which is not easy because healthy dog-shit is hard, does not mix with water as easily as cow-dung... even horse-dung is quite hard and may require being made into a " paste " so that it will mix well with the water. Rohini has a retired race-horse, but it moves everywhere in Rohini's estate and collecting its poop will be a little time-consuming, some neighors have cows, but again it will take much time to collect the stuff. Usually digesters are set up right at the end of the drain of a cow-shed, so that sweeping the mixture into the digester is easy and the urine must be playing a big role also, which I would not be able to find anywhere here. So I wonder whether it would be better to stop by at a big restaurant every time I go to town, to collect the left over food, and mix the dog-shit into it, just to get ridd of it, but for that I may have to contact Arti, the specialist on starch-digesters, to find out whether this mixing up is a good idea. Merritt Clifton [anmlpepl] Wednesday, February 11, 2009 1:26 PM padma Re: (LK) BIO-GAS FROM DOG-FECES ??? >May be I just have to be more patient, but in the meantime I just >wanted to hear whether anyone knows whether it's really possible to produce >bio-gas from dog-feces. It isn't rich enough in methane, because dogs don't eat enough vegetation. You can get it to work as a component of a biogas reactor fuel consisting mainly of horse or cow poop, but it won't work by itself. The real expert in this is Pradeep Kumar Nath of the Visakha SPCA: Pradeep Nath <vspcadeep From ANIMAL PEOPLE, March 2007: " Small is beautiful " in Visakhapatnam VISAKHAPATNAM--The Visakha SPCA testifies by example that the approach to revitalizing India articulated by E.F. Schumacher in his influential Gandhian treatise Small Is Beautiful (1960) can be updated and made to work, with sufficient inspiration and investment capital from donors. When ANIMAL PEOPLE first visited the present Visakha SPCA site in 2000, it was a gravel-strewn dry flood plain--which has since flooded twice, necessitating redesign and reconstruction. The facilities consisted of one makeshift cattle shed. Today, more than 600 animals including several hundred cattle occupy space that could then barely hold a few dozen. Almost every square inch appears to be in well-planned multiple use. Between buildings and access paths, fast-growing native trees, bushes, and grass provide shade, a congenial atmosphere, and a surprising volume of home-grown food treats for the resident animals: not only dogs, cats, and cattle, but also monkeys, birds of multiple species, and star tortoises, rare in the wild due to poaching, who have found the Visakha SPCA a safe place to breed. Central to the Visakha SPCA is a biogas reactor that converts the animal waste into fertilizer and fuel to generate electricity. The Visakha SPCA is a model of the cow shelter modus operandi that the Gandhians espoused as their ideal; but it is also a hybrid with newer concepts of the role of animal welfare institutions. The original Visakha SPCA project was protecting sea turtle nests, a relatively rare instance of a humane society managing a species conservation program. The project that most built the organization was persuading the city of Visakhapatnam to stop electrocuting street dogs, accomplished in November 1998, followed by building one of the leading Animal Birth Control programs in India, to reduce the dog population without killing. Growing with Visakhapatnam, which is among the fastest-expanding cities in India, the Visakha SPCA now provides ABC not only to the central city but also to a constellation of suburbs. The pinjarapole helps the Visakha SPCA image, founder Pradeep Kumar Nath believes. High-profile rescues of cattle from illegal butchers, and of calves from temple abandonment, help to deflect criticism of the emphasis on dog rescue. Some cow protection donors are so offended by the presence of dogs on the premises, Nath says, that he welcomes their visits at a second entrance that bypasses the kennel area, beside the main gate. Meanwhile, the Visakha SPCA pinjarapole facilities are full, and cattle and calves continue to be born and dumped. -- Merritt Clifton Editor, ANIMAL PEOPLE P.O. Box 960 Clinton, WA 98236 Telephone: 360-579-2505 Fax: 360-579-2575 E-mail: anmlpepl Web: www.animalpeoplenews.org [ANIMAL PEOPLE is the leading independent newspaper providing original investigative coverage of animal protection worldwide, founded in 1992. Our readership of 30,000-plus includes the decision-makers at more than 10,000 animal protection organizations. We have no alignment or affiliation with any other entity. $24/year; for free sample, send address.] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 11, 2009 Report Share Posted February 11, 2009 >May be I just have to be more patient, but in the meantime I just >wanted to hear whether anyone knows whether it's really possible to produce >bio-gas from dog-feces. It isn't rich enough in methane, because dogs don't eat enough vegetation. You can get it to work as a component of a biogas reactor fuel consisting mainly of horse or cow poop, but it won't work by itself. The real expert in this is Pradeep Kumar Nath of the Visakha SPCA: Pradeep Nath <vspcadeep --------------------------- From ANIMAL PEOPLE, March 2007: " Small is beautiful " in Visakhapatnam VISAKHAPATNAM--The Visakha SPCA testifies by example that the approach to revitalizing India articulated by E.F. Schumacher in his influential Gandhian treatise Small Is Beautiful (1960) can be updated and made to work, with sufficient inspiration and investment capital from donors. When ANIMAL PEOPLE first visited the present Visakha SPCA site in 2000, it was a gravel-strewn dry flood plain--which has since flooded twice, necessitating redesign and reconstruction. The facilities consisted of one makeshift cattle shed. Today, more than 600 animals including several hundred cattle occupy space that could then barely hold a few dozen. Almost every square inch appears to be in well-planned multiple use. Between buildings and access paths, fast-growing native trees, bushes, and grass provide shade, a congenial atmosphere, and a surprising volume of home-grown food treats for the resident animals: not only dogs, cats, and cattle, but also monkeys, birds of multiple species, and star tortoises, rare in the wild due to poaching, who have found the Visakha SPCA a safe place to breed. Central to the Visakha SPCA is a biogas reactor that converts the animal waste into fertilizer and fuel to generate electricity. The Visakha SPCA is a model of the cow shelter modus operandi that the Gandhians espoused as their ideal; but it is also a hybrid with newer concepts of the role of animal welfare institutions. The original Visakha SPCA project was protecting sea turtle nests, a relatively rare instance of a humane society managing a species conservation program. The project that most built the organization was persuading the city of Visakhapatnam to stop electrocuting street dogs, accomplished in November 1998, followed by building one of the leading Animal Birth Control programs in India, to reduce the dog population without killing. Growing with Visakhapatnam, which is among the fastest-expanding cities in India, the Visakha SPCA now provides ABC not only to the central city but also to a constellation of suburbs. The pinjarapole helps the Visakha SPCA image, founder Pradeep Kumar Nath believes. High-profile rescues of cattle from illegal butchers, and of calves from temple abandonment, help to deflect criticism of the emphasis on dog rescue. Some cow protection donors are so offended by the presence of dogs on the premises, Nath says, that he welcomes their visits at a second entrance that bypasses the kennel area, beside the main gate. Meanwhile, the Visakha SPCA pinjarapole facilities are full, and cattle and calves continue to be born and dumped. -- Merritt Clifton Editor, ANIMAL PEOPLE P.O. Box 960 Clinton, WA 98236 Telephone: 360-579-2505 Fax: 360-579-2575 E-mail: anmlpepl Web: www.animalpeoplenews.org [ANIMAL PEOPLE is the leading independent newspaper providing original investigative coverage of animal protection worldwide, founded in 1992. Our readership of 30,000-plus includes the decision-makers at more than 10,000 animal protection organizations. We have no alignment or affiliation with any other entity. $24/year; for free sample, send address.] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 11, 2009 Report Share Posted February 11, 2009 The answer is " no " . Cattle, elephant, horse, donkeys and camels can be used - in declining order of methane per kilo of dung. Bio gas from dog faeces is not economically viable and the left over slurry is also not recommended as fertiliser. S. Chinny Krishna aapn [aapn ] On Behalf Of padma 09 February 2009 23:22 aapn (LK) BIO-GAS FROM DOG-FECES ??? Since I have more than fourty dogs living within my 60 perch premises, it's quite a job to keep the garden clean and to dispose of the feces without allowing any stench to polute the environment. I had an idea of cooking cheaper by using the stuff to produce bio-gas and have been setting up a small digester and now I am watching for the last one week what happens, it's producing some sort of gas, but not yet methane, it does not burn anyway. May be I just have to be more patient, but in the meantime I just wanted to hear whether anyone knows whether it's really possible to produce bio-gas from dog-feces. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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