RE: more on how to Remain Humane at the Olympics in China

July 3, 2008

Chinese boycotts, trade restrictions, and taxes have not worked in my

lifetime, and I doubt Americans would be willing to pay more for Ipods or

take any more taxes from their government at this juncture (with economic

collapse looming). We need to think of new ideas.

Jigs in Nepal

On 8/6/08 4:24 PM, " Edwin Wiek " <edwin.wiek wrote:

> A complete boycott of China with heavy pressure on the Chinese government in

> the form of high import taxes on their goods in Western countries is one way

> to go. Prosecuting their leaders in international courts on human rights

> issues and stopping them from travelling in to our countries another one. Not

> visiting China an easy one.

>

> I won't buy goods from shops in my hometown that employ children, abuse their

> staff or sell illegal stuff and so on. So why should we visit China? Buy their

> goods? Have Olympic games (that supposed to embrace friendship and peace) in a

> country that suppresses and kills its people?

>

> I was just at the China-Laos border seeing THOUSANDS of WILD ANIMALS for sale

> in Laos to be taken to China OPENLY, no one cared, not the Laos police nor

> Chinese customs. Big business...

>

> Everyone speaks about things getting better through " a dialogue " , well I just

> see the latest report on human rights in China, things have gotten worse

> although we have been talking a long time now. The illegal wildlife trade is

> worse then ever as people are getting richer in China and the government does

> not care at all. South and South-east Asian countries' wildlife is being

> stolen from their forests at an increasing rate all going to China and some

> suggest we should visit China and " talk " . By the time the majority of people

> see that talking doesn't work it might be too late for some species of

> wildlife.

>

> I don't know enough about animal welfare in China, but I can only guess...

>

> Edwin Wiek

> Wildlife Friends Foundation Thailand

> www.wfft.org <http://www.wfft.org>

aapn [aapn ] On Behalf Of Herojig

> Wednesday, 06 August, 2008 1:44 PM

> Jill Robinson; Kim Bartlett

> Cc: aapn

> Re: more on how to Remain Humane at the Olympics in China

>

> Going to China may be the best way to initiate any change there. Going to

> China and showing the Chinese how westerners live and react to such things

> as worm burgers and live snake dishes will do a lot more then signing a

> petition online and forwarding that to the Chinese government. While the

> government of China has embraced western capitalism and customs with the

> motto ³But we are still Chinese² - on the ground that won¹t long be the

> case. The average Chinese person wants to be as western as the next European

> or American person, and the Chinese want to embrace all that entails. Ipods

> and Modern Medicine go hand in hand with the now generation of Chinese

> youth. By showing your modern decent presence in China, you are encouraging

> all to discard the ancient dark ways of the Chinese past. You don¹t have to

> go and do anything that will get you thrown out of the country, but snubbing

> your nose at traditional medicines with animal parts protruding and by not

> eating Fish Fried Live, but French Fries instead, you are setting an example

> for anyone within eyesight. So go ahead, be the typical loud and obnoxious

> Hawaiian shirt-clad tourist...you are making for a better China in the

> display.

> Jigs in Nepal

>

> On 8/6/08 11:37 AM, " Jill Robinson " <jrobinson

> <jrobinson%40animalsasia.org> > wrote:

>

>> >

>> > Yes I still want to go to China. I don't think people need to be

>> > worried too much about consuming tiger, bear or other endangered species

>> > parts - whether in TCM or restaurants. They would be paying

>> > significantly more for these, having had to ask for them - or being

>> > aware that this is what they are consuming. These parts are not hidden

>> > for consumers to munch on in oblivion for the obvious reason that the

>> > traders want to exploit these poor animals for a goodly return. Jill

>> >

>> > Kim Bartlett wrote:

>>>> >> >

>>>>>> >>> > >Wed, 6 Aug 2008 10:55:58 +0530

>>>>>> >>> > > " Nanditha krishna " <drnandithakrishna

>>>>>> <drnandithakrishna%40gmail.com>

>>>> >>> <drnandithakrishna%40gmail.com>

>>>> >> > <drnandithakrishna%40gmail.com>>

>>>>>> >>> > >

>>>>>> >>> > >Having travelled fairly extensively in China, I would like to add

>>>>>> >>> > >the following:

>>>>>> >>> > >

>>>>>> >>> > >If you go to a pharmacy, be careful of local " Chinese medicine "

>>>>>> >>> > >items. They may include tiger parts, bear bile, snake flesh, etc.

>>>>>> >>> > >Chinese wine often contains snakes sealed live (of course they

die,

>>>>>> >>> > >once drowned in a bottle of wine), or snake blood added to the

wine.

>>>>>> >>> > >It is supposed to be good for rheumatism !

>>>>>> >>> > >Vegetables are boiled in water laced with lard. So, unless you see

>>>>>> >>> > >it boiling, don't eat your vegetables.

>>>>>> >>> > >Vegetarian food - including vegetable rice or noodles - means

>>>>>> >>> > >picking off the meat, fish, etc. Instead, order plain steamed

rice.

>>>>>> >>> > >When in China, stick to American food - corn flakes, toast, >>>>>>

steamed

>>>>>> >>> > >rice, fruits. It may be boring, but you can't go wrong !

>>>>>> >>> > >Don't eat crunchy-munchies unless it is labelled in English. It is

>>>>>> >>> > >often made with worms, snake parts, etc.

>>>>>> >>> > >And don't buy fur - real or false. False fur is often made from

>>>>>> dog hair.

>>>>>> >>> > >After all this, do you still want to go to China?

>>>>>> >>> > >

>>>>>> >>> > >On Tue, Aug 5, 2008 at 7:52 AM, Kim Bartlett

>>>>>> >>> > ><<anpeople <anpeople%40whidbey.com>

>>>>>> <anpeople%40whidbey.com>

>>>> >> > <anpeople%40whidbey.com>>anpeople

>>>> <anpeople%40whidbey.com>

>>> >> <anpeople%40whidbey.com>

>>>> >> > <anpeople%40whidbey.com>> wrote:

>>>>>> >>> > >

>>>>>> >>> > >FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE

>>>>>> >>> > >

>>>>>> >>> > >Remain Humane at the Olympics in China

>>>>>> >>> > >Food/Merchandise Tips for Summer Games

>>>>>> >>> > >

>>>>>> >>> > >(July 31, 2008) - The Humane Society of the United States and its

>>>>>> >>> > >international arm Humane Society International has a list of do's

and

>>>>>> >>> > >don'ts for those traveling to China, where tourist souvenirs and

some

>>>>>> >>> > >meals involve cruelty to animals.

>>>>>> >>> > >

>>>>>> >>> > >Teresa Telecky, Ph.D., policy director for Humane Society

>>>>>> >>> > >International, offers the following tips to help those wishing to

>>>>>> >>> > >make animal-friendly decisions while in China:

>>>>>> >>> > >

>>>>>> >>> > >Don't buy ivory. During a recent trip to China, Telecky saw ivory

for

>>>>>> >>> > >sale widely, even in hotel gift shops. China is the main

>>>>>> destination

>>>>>> >>> > >for ivory from poached elephants. Although it is legal to sell

ivory

>>>>>> >>> > >in China, it is illegal to bring ivory back into the United >>>>>>

States.

>>>>>> >>> > ><<http://www.hsus.org/hsi/wildlife/dont_buy_wild/

>>>> >> >

>>> >>

>>>

<http://www.hsus.org/hsi/wildlife/dont_buy_wild/>>http://www.hsus.org/hsi/wil

>>> >> dlife/dont_buy_wild/

>>>> >> >

>>> >>

>>>

<http://www.hsus.org/hsi/wildlife/dont_buy_wild/>><http://www.hsus.org/hsi/wi

>>> >> ldlife/dont_buy_wild/

>>>> >> >

>>> >>

>>>

<http://www.hsus.org/hsi/wildlife/dont_buy_wild/>>http://www.hsus.org/hsi/wil

>>> >> dlife/dont_buy_wild/

>>>> >> > <http://www.hsus.org/hsi/wildlife/dont_buy_wild/>

>>>>>> >>> > >Don't buy items made of or trimmed in fur or leather. Wild animals

as

>>>>>> >>> > >well as dogs and cats are killed for their fur in China. The

>>>>>> methods

>>>>>> >>> > >of killing the animals include skinning the animals while they are

>>>>>> >>> > >still alive. Telecky saw cat trinkets covered in real cat fur.

>>>>>> >>> > ><<http://www.hsus.org/furfree/dogs_cats/dog_and_cat_victims.html

>>>> >> >

>>> >>

>>>

<http://www.hsus.org/furfree/dogs_cats/dog_and_cat_victims.html>>http://www.h

>>> >> sus.org/furfree/dogs_cats/dog_and_cat_victims.html

>>>> >> >

>>> >>

>>>

<http://www.hsus.org/furfree/dogs_cats/dog_and_cat_victims.html>><http://www.

>>> >> hsus.org/furfree/dogs_cats/dog_and_cat_victims.html

>>>> >> >

>>> >>

>>>

<http://www.hsus.org/furfree/dogs_cats/dog_and_cat_victims.html>>http://www.h

>>> >> sus.org/furfree/dogs_cats/dog_and_cat_victims.html

>>>> >> > <http://www.hsus.org/furfree/dogs_cats/dog_and_cat_victims.html>

>>>>>> >>> > >Don't order shark fin soup. Sharks are in decline worldwide,

>>>>>> largely

>>>>>> >>> > >because of the demand for their fins. Shark fins are cut off and

the

>>>>>> >>> > >sharks are thrown back overboard to die.

>>>>> >>> >

>>>> >>>

>> ><<http://www.hsus.org/hsi/oceans/sharks/shark_finning/shark_finning_faq.html

>>>> >> >

>>> >>

>>>

<http://www.hsus.org/hsi/oceans/sharks/shark_finning/shark_finning_faq.html>>

>>> >>

>>> http://www.hsus.org/hsi/oceans/sharks/shark_finning/shark_finning_faq.html

>>>> >> >

>>> >>

>>>

<http://www.hsus.org/hsi/oceans/sharks/shark_finning/shark_finning_faq.html>>

>>> >>

>>> <http://www.hsus.org/hsi/oceans/sharks/shark_finning/shark_finning_faq.html

>>>> >> >

>>> >>

>>>

<http://www.hsus.org/hsi/oceans/sharks/shark_finning/shark_finning_faq.html>>

>>> >>

>>> http://www.hsus.org/hsi/oceans/sharks/shark_finning/shark_finning_faq.html

>>>> >> >

>>> >>

>>> <http://www.hsus.org/hsi/oceans/sharks/shark_finning/shark_finning_faq.html>

>>>>>> >>> > >Do be mindful of what else you eat. Officials have banned dog meat

>>>>>> >>> > >from the menus during the Olympics, but it is still a thriving

trade

>>>>>> >>> > >at other times. Other opportunities for adventurous eating abound

in

>>>>>> >>> > >China, but diners are often unaware of the impact their food

>>>>>> choices

>>>>>> >>> > >have. Massive numbers of snakes, turtles and small mammals are

>>>>>> >>> > >captured in other Asian countries and transported alive under

cruel

>>>>>> >>> > >conditions to China, decimating wild populations. Bird's nest

soup,

>>>>>> >>> > >another delicacy, is made of swiftlet nests. Removing the nests

from

>>>>>> >>> > >the wild deprives birds of places to breed.

>>>>>> >>> > >Do eat vegetables to be safe. Many restaurants in China serve

>>>>>> >>> > >vegetarian dishes like " stir fried vegetables, " " mixed

>>>>>> vegetables, "

>>>>>> >>> > > " vegetables with fried tofu or regular tofu, " " pickled vegetables

>>>>>> >>> > >with beans, " and " mushroom with vegetables, " etc.

>>>>>> >>> > >Do learn a phrase or two. The phrase " wo chi su " (I am vegetarian)

>>>>>> >>> > >may be interpreted as " I want to eat vegetables " rather than being

>>>>>> >>> > >vegetarian. You will be served a plate of green vegetables and

rice.

>>>>>> >>> > >The phrase " quan su " means vegetarian in the Chinese Buddhist

>>>>>> >>> > >tradition, which prohibits eating onions and garlic.

>>>>>> >>> > >Do be careful about pharmacy purchases. Traditional Chinese

>>>>>> medicines

>>>>>> >>> > >may contain parts of endangered animals, which are believed to

have

>>>>>> >>> > >potent healing properties. Demand for these products has pushed

>>>>>> >>> > >rhinos and tigers to the edge of extinction. In China, endangered

>>>>>> >>> > >Asiatic black bears are trapped and kept in small cages so their

bile

>>>>>> >>> > >can be extracted.

>>>>>> >>> > >Don't buy items made of wood. China is one of the biggest

>>>>>> importers

>>>>>> >>> > >of tropical timber. This timber comes from trees cut down in other

>>>>>> >>> > >parts of Asia, such as Indonesia, which destroys orangutan >>>>>>

habitat.

>>>>>> >>> > >Do purchase official Olympic souvenirs or handicrafts that are not

>>>>>> >>> > >made from animals or wild plants. Chinese merchants carry ornate,

>>>>>> >>> > >metal objects (jewelry, vases, etc.), rock carvings of people and

>>>>>> >>> > >animals, objects made from beautifully woven cloth (purses, >>>>>>

scarves,

>>>>>> >>> > >shirts, ties, etc.), tea, pottery and hand-made papers.

>>>>>> >>> > >-30-

>>>>>> >>> > >Media Contact: Kristen Everett, 301-721-6440,

>>>>>> >>> >

>>>>>> ><<keverett%40humanesociety.org>keverett

>>>>>> <keverett%40humanesociety.org>

>>>> >>> <keverett%40humanesociety.org>

>>>> >> >

>>> >>

>>>

<keverett%40humanesociety.org>><keverett%40humanesociety.org>ke

>>> >> verett <verett%40humanesociety.org>

>>> <keverett%40humanesociety.org>

>>>> >> > <keverett%40humanesociety.org>

>>>>>> >>> > >Humane Society International is the international arm of The

Humane

>>>>>> >>> > >Society of the United States, the nation's largest animal

>>>>>> protection

>>>>>> >>> > >organization - backed by 10.5 million Americans, or one of every

30.

>>>>>> >>> > >For more than a half-century, The HSUS has been fighting for the

>>>>>> >>> > >protection of all animals through advocacy, education, and >>>>>>

hands-on

>>>>>> >>> > >programs. Celebrating animals and confronting cruelty - On the web

at

>>>>>> >>> > ><<http://www.humanesociety.org/

>>>> >> > <http://www.humanesociety.org/>>http://www.humanesociety.org/

>>>> >> > <http://www.humanesociety.org/>><http://humanesociety.org/

>>>> >> > <http://humanesociety.org/>>humanesociety.org.

>>>>>> >>> > >Humane Society

>>>>>> >>> > >International

>>>>>> >>> > >2100 L Street,

>>>>>> >>> > >N.W.

>>>>>> >>> > >Washington, D.C.

>>>>>> >>> > >20037

>>>>>> >>> > ><<http://www.humanesociety.org/

>>>> >> > <http://www.humanesociety.org/>>http://www.humanesociety.org/

>>>> >> > <http://www.humanesociety.org/>><http://hsihsus.org/

>>>> >> > <http://hsihsus.org/>>hsihsus.org

>>>>>> >>> > >Celebrating Animals, Confronting

>>>>>> >>> > >Cruelty

>> >

>

August 6, 2008

Yes I still want to go to China. I don't think people need to be

worried too much about consuming tiger, bear or other endangered species

parts - whether in TCM or restaurants. They would be paying

significantly more for these, having had to ask for them - or being

aware that this is what they are consuming. These parts are not hidden

for consumers to munch on in oblivion for the obvious reason that the

traders want to exploit these poor animals for a goodly return. Jill

Kim Bartlett wrote:

>

> >Wed, 6 Aug 2008 10:55:58 +0530

> > " Nanditha krishna " <drnandithakrishna

> <drnandithakrishna%40gmail.com>>

> >

> >Having travelled fairly extensively in China, I would like to add

> >the following:

> >

> >If you go to a pharmacy, be careful of local " Chinese medicine "

> >items. They may include tiger parts, bear bile, snake flesh, etc.

> >Chinese wine often contains snakes sealed live (of course they die,

> >once drowned in a bottle of wine), or snake blood added to the wine.

> >It is supposed to be good for rheumatism !

> >Vegetables are boiled in water laced with lard. So, unless you see

> >it boiling, don't eat your vegetables.

> >Vegetarian food - including vegetable rice or noodles - means

> >picking off the meat, fish, etc. Instead, order plain steamed rice.

> >When in China, stick to American food - corn flakes, toast, steamed

> >rice, fruits. It may be boring, but you can't go wrong !

> >Don't eat crunchy-munchies unless it is labelled in English. It is

> >often made with worms, snake parts, etc.

> >And don't buy fur - real or false. False fur is often made from dog hair.

> >After all this, do you still want to go to China?

> >

> >On Tue, Aug 5, 2008 at 7:52 AM, Kim Bartlett

> ><<anpeople

> <anpeople%40whidbey.com>>anpeople

> <anpeople%40whidbey.com>> wrote:

> >

> >FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE

> >

> >Remain Humane at the Olympics in China

> >Food/Merchandise Tips for Summer Games

> >

> >(July 31, 2008) - The Humane Society of the United States and its

> >international arm Humane Society International has a list of do's and

> >don'ts for those traveling to China, where tourist souvenirs and some

> >meals involve cruelty to animals.

> >

> >Teresa Telecky, Ph.D., policy director for Humane Society

> >International, offers the following tips to help those wishing to

> >make animal-friendly decisions while in China:

> >

> >Don't buy ivory. During a recent trip to China, Telecky saw ivory for

> >sale widely, even in hotel gift shops. China is the main destination

> >for ivory from poached elephants. Although it is legal to sell ivory

> >in China, it is illegal to bring ivory back into the United States.

> ><<http://www.hsus.org/hsi/wildlife/dont_buy_wild/

>

<http://www.hsus.org/hsi/wildlife/dont_buy_wild/>>http://www.hsus.org/hsi/wildli\

fe/dont_buy_wild/

>

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ife/dont_buy_wild/

>

<http://www.hsus.org/hsi/wildlife/dont_buy_wild/>>http://www.hsus.org/hsi/wildli\

fe/dont_buy_wild/

> <http://www.hsus.org/hsi/wildlife/dont_buy_wild/>

> >Don't buy items made of or trimmed in fur or leather. Wild animals as

> >well as dogs and cats are killed for their fur in China. The methods

> >of killing the animals include skinning the animals while they are

> >still alive. Telecky saw cat trinkets covered in real cat fur.

> ><<http://www.hsus.org/furfree/dogs_cats/dog_and_cat_victims.html

>

<http://www.hsus.org/furfree/dogs_cats/dog_and_cat_victims.html>>http://www.hsus\

..org/furfree/dogs_cats/dog_and_cat_victims.html

>

<http://www.hsus.org/furfree/dogs_cats/dog_and_cat_victims.html>><http://www.hsu\

s.org/furfree/dogs_cats/dog_and_cat_victims.html

>

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..org/furfree/dogs_cats/dog_and_cat_victims.html

> <http://www.hsus.org/furfree/dogs_cats/dog_and_cat_victims.html>

> >Don't order shark fin soup. Sharks are in decline worldwide, largely

> >because of the demand for their fins. Shark fins are cut off and the

> >sharks are thrown back overboard to die.

> ><<http://www.hsus.org/hsi/oceans/sharks/shark_finning/shark_finning_faq.html

>

<http://www.hsus.org/hsi/oceans/sharks/shark_finning/shark_finning_faq.html>>htt\

p://www.hsus.org/hsi/oceans/sharks/shark_finning/shark_finning_faq.html

>

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tp://www.hsus.org/hsi/oceans/sharks/shark_finning/shark_finning_faq.html

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p://www.hsus.org/hsi/oceans/sharks/shark_finning/shark_finning_faq.html

> <http://www.hsus.org/hsi/oceans/sharks/shark_finning/shark_finning_faq.html>

> >Do be mindful of what else you eat. Officials have banned dog meat

> >from the menus during the Olympics, but it is still a thriving trade

> >at other times. Other opportunities for adventurous eating abound in

> >China, but diners are often unaware of the impact their food choices

> >have. Massive numbers of snakes, turtles and small mammals are

> >captured in other Asian countries and transported alive under cruel

> >conditions to China, decimating wild populations. Bird's nest soup,

> >another delicacy, is made of swiftlet nests. Removing the nests from

> >the wild deprives birds of places to breed.

> >Do eat vegetables to be safe. Many restaurants in China serve

> >vegetarian dishes like " stir fried vegetables, " " mixed vegetables, "

> > " vegetables with fried tofu or regular tofu, " " pickled vegetables

> >with beans, " and " mushroom with vegetables, " etc.

> >Do learn a phrase or two. The phrase " wo chi su " (I am vegetarian)

> >may be interpreted as " I want to eat vegetables " rather than being

> >vegetarian. You will be served a plate of green vegetables and rice.

> >The phrase " quan su " means vegetarian in the Chinese Buddhist

> >tradition, which prohibits eating onions and garlic.

> >Do be careful about pharmacy purchases. Traditional Chinese medicines

> >may contain parts of endangered animals, which are believed to have

> >potent healing properties. Demand for these products has pushed

> >rhinos and tigers to the edge of extinction. In China, endangered

> >Asiatic black bears are trapped and kept in small cages so their bile

> >can be extracted.

> >Don't buy items made of wood. China is one of the biggest importers

> >of tropical timber. This timber comes from trees cut down in other

> >parts of Asia, such as Indonesia, which destroys orangutan habitat.

> >Do purchase official Olympic souvenirs or handicrafts that are not

> >made from animals or wild plants. Chinese merchants carry ornate,

> >metal objects (jewelry, vases, etc.), rock carvings of people and

> >animals, objects made from beautifully woven cloth (purses, scarves,

> >shirts, ties, etc.), tea, pottery and hand-made papers.

> >-30-

> >Media Contact: Kristen Everett, 301-721-6440,

> ><<keverett%40humanesociety.org>keverett

>

<keverett%40humanesociety.org>><keverett%40humanesociety.org>kever\

ett

> <keverett%40humanesociety.org>

> >Humane Society International is the international arm of The Humane

> >Society of the United States, the nation's largest animal protection

> >organization - backed by 10.5 million Americans, or one of every 30.

> >For more than a half-century, The HSUS has been fighting for the

> >protection of all animals through advocacy, education, and hands-on

> >programs. Celebrating animals and confronting cruelty - On the web at

> ><<http://www.humanesociety.org/

> <http://www.humanesociety.org/>>http://www.humanesociety.org/

> <http://www.humanesociety.org/>><http://humanesociety.org/

> <http://humanesociety.org/>>humanesociety.org.

> >Humane Society

> >International

> >2100 L Street,

> >N.W.

> >Washington, D.C.

> >20037

> ><<http://www.humanesociety.org/

> <http://www.humanesociety.org/>>http://www.humanesociety.org/

> <http://www.humanesociety.org/>><http://hsihsus.org/

> <http://hsihsus.org/>>hsihsus.org

> >Celebrating Animals, Confronting

> >Cruelty

> >

>

> --

>

August 6, 2008

Going to China may be the best way to initiate any change there. Going to

China and showing the Chinese how westerners live and react to such things

as worm burgers and live snake dishes will do a lot more then signing a

petition online and forwarding that to the Chinese government. While the

government of China has embraced western capitalism and customs with the

motto ³But we are still Chinese² - on the ground that won¹t long be the

case. The average Chinese person wants to be as western as the next European

or American person, and the Chinese want to embrace all that entails. Ipods

and Modern Medicine go hand in hand with the now generation of Chinese

youth. By showing your modern decent presence in China, you are encouraging

all to discard the ancient dark ways of the Chinese past. You don¹t have to

go and do anything that will get you thrown out of the country, but snubbing

your nose at traditional medicines with animal parts protruding and by not

eating Fish Fried Live, but French Fries instead, you are setting an example

for anyone within eyesight. So go ahead, be the typical loud and obnoxious

Hawaiian shirt-clad tourist...you are making for a better China in the

display.

Jigs in Nepal

On 8/6/08 11:37 AM, " Jill Robinson " <jrobinson wrote:

>

> Yes I still want to go to China. I don't think people need to be

> worried too much about consuming tiger, bear or other endangered species

> parts - whether in TCM or restaurants. They would be paying

> significantly more for these, having had to ask for them - or being

> aware that this is what they are consuming. These parts are not hidden

> for consumers to munch on in oblivion for the obvious reason that the

> traders want to exploit these poor animals for a goodly return. Jill

>

> Kim Bartlett wrote:

>> >

>>> > >Wed, 6 Aug 2008 10:55:58 +0530

>>> > > " Nanditha krishna " <drnandithakrishna

>>> <drnandithakrishna%40gmail.com>

>> > <drnandithakrishna%40gmail.com>>

>>> > >

>>> > >Having travelled fairly extensively in China, I would like to add

>>> > >the following:

>>> > >

>>> > >If you go to a pharmacy, be careful of local " Chinese medicine "

>>> > >items. They may include tiger parts, bear bile, snake flesh, etc.

>>> > >Chinese wine often contains snakes sealed live (of course they die,

>>> > >once drowned in a bottle of wine), or snake blood added to the wine.

>>> > >It is supposed to be good for rheumatism !

>>> > >Vegetables are boiled in water laced with lard. So, unless you see

>>> > >it boiling, don't eat your vegetables.

>>> > >Vegetarian food - including vegetable rice or noodles - means

>>> > >picking off the meat, fish, etc. Instead, order plain steamed rice.

>>> > >When in China, stick to American food - corn flakes, toast, steamed

>>> > >rice, fruits. It may be boring, but you can't go wrong !

>>> > >Don't eat crunchy-munchies unless it is labelled in English. It is

>>> > >often made with worms, snake parts, etc.

>>> > >And don't buy fur - real or false. False fur is often made from dog hair.

>>> > >After all this, do you still want to go to China?

>>> > >

>>> > >On Tue, Aug 5, 2008 at 7:52 AM, Kim Bartlett

>>> > ><<anpeople <anpeople%40whidbey.com>

>> > <anpeople%40whidbey.com>>anpeople

>> <anpeople%40whidbey.com>

>> > <anpeople%40whidbey.com>> wrote:

>>> > >

>>> > >FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE

>>> > >

>>> > >Remain Humane at the Olympics in China

>>> > >Food/Merchandise Tips for Summer Games

>>> > >

>>> > >(July 31, 2008) - The Humane Society of the United States and its

>>> > >international arm Humane Society International has a list of do's and

>>> > >don'ts for those traveling to China, where tourist souvenirs and some

>>> > >meals involve cruelty to animals.

>>> > >

>>> > >Teresa Telecky, Ph.D., policy director for Humane Society

>>> > >International, offers the following tips to help those wishing to

>>> > >make animal-friendly decisions while in China:

>>> > >

>>> > >Don't buy ivory. During a recent trip to China, Telecky saw ivory for

>>> > >sale widely, even in hotel gift shops. China is the main destination

>>> > >for ivory from poached elephants. Although it is legal to sell ivory

>>> > >in China, it is illegal to bring ivory back into the United States.

>>> > ><<http://www.hsus.org/hsi/wildlife/dont_buy_wild/

>> >

>> <http://www.hsus.org/hsi/wildlife/dont_buy_wild/>>http://www.hsus.org/hsi/wil

>> dlife/dont_buy_wild/

>> >

>> <http://www.hsus.org/hsi/wildlife/dont_buy_wild/>><http://www.hsus.org/hsi/wi

>> ldlife/dont_buy_wild/

>> >

>> <http://www.hsus.org/hsi/wildlife/dont_buy_wild/>>http://www.hsus.org/hsi/wil

>> dlife/dont_buy_wild/

>> > <http://www.hsus.org/hsi/wildlife/dont_buy_wild/>

>>> > >Don't buy items made of or trimmed in fur or leather. Wild animals as

>>> > >well as dogs and cats are killed for their fur in China. The methods

>>> > >of killing the animals include skinning the animals while they are

>>> > >still alive. Telecky saw cat trinkets covered in real cat fur.

>>> > ><<http://www.hsus.org/furfree/dogs_cats/dog_and_cat_victims.html

>> >

>> <http://www.hsus.org/furfree/dogs_cats/dog_and_cat_victims.html>>http://www.h

>> sus.org/furfree/dogs_cats/dog_and_cat_victims.html

>> >

>> <http://www.hsus.org/furfree/dogs_cats/dog_and_cat_victims.html>><http://www.

>> hsus.org/furfree/dogs_cats/dog_and_cat_victims.html

>> >

>> <http://www.hsus.org/furfree/dogs_cats/dog_and_cat_victims.html>>http://www.h

>> sus.org/furfree/dogs_cats/dog_and_cat_victims.html

>> > <http://www.hsus.org/furfree/dogs_cats/dog_and_cat_victims.html>

>>> > >Don't order shark fin soup. Sharks are in decline worldwide, largely

>>> > >because of the demand for their fins. Shark fins are cut off and the

>>> > >sharks are thrown back overboard to die.

>>> >

>>>

><<http://www.hsus.org/hsi/oceans/sharks/shark_finning/shark_finning_faq.html

>> >

>> <http://www.hsus.org/hsi/oceans/sharks/shark_finning/shark_finning_faq.html>>

>> http://www.hsus.org/hsi/oceans/sharks/shark_finning/shark_finning_faq.html

>> >

>> <http://www.hsus.org/hsi/oceans/sharks/shark_finning/shark_finning_faq.html>>

>> <http://www.hsus.org/hsi/oceans/sharks/shark_finning/shark_finning_faq.html

>> >

>> <http://www.hsus.org/hsi/oceans/sharks/shark_finning/shark_finning_faq.html>>

>> http://www.hsus.org/hsi/oceans/sharks/shark_finning/shark_finning_faq.html

>> >

>> <http://www.hsus.org/hsi/oceans/sharks/shark_finning/shark_finning_faq.html>

>>> > >Do be mindful of what else you eat. Officials have banned dog meat

>>> > >from the menus during the Olympics, but it is still a thriving trade

>>> > >at other times. Other opportunities for adventurous eating abound in

>>> > >China, but diners are often unaware of the impact their food choices

>>> > >have. Massive numbers of snakes, turtles and small mammals are

>>> > >captured in other Asian countries and transported alive under cruel

>>> > >conditions to China, decimating wild populations. Bird's nest soup,

>>> > >another delicacy, is made of swiftlet nests. Removing the nests from

>>> > >the wild deprives birds of places to breed.

>>> > >Do eat vegetables to be safe. Many restaurants in China serve

>>> > >vegetarian dishes like " stir fried vegetables, " " mixed vegetables, "

>>> > > " vegetables with fried tofu or regular tofu, " " pickled vegetables

>>> > >with beans, " and " mushroom with vegetables, " etc.

>>> > >Do learn a phrase or two. The phrase " wo chi su " (I am vegetarian)

>>> > >may be interpreted as " I want to eat vegetables " rather than being

>>> > >vegetarian. You will be served a plate of green vegetables and rice.

>>> > >The phrase " quan su " means vegetarian in the Chinese Buddhist

>>> > >tradition, which prohibits eating onions and garlic.

>>> > >Do be careful about pharmacy purchases. Traditional Chinese medicines

>>> > >may contain parts of endangered animals, which are believed to have

>>> > >potent healing properties. Demand for these products has pushed

>>> > >rhinos and tigers to the edge of extinction. In China, endangered

>>> > >Asiatic black bears are trapped and kept in small cages so their bile

>>> > >can be extracted.

>>> > >Don't buy items made of wood. China is one of the biggest importers

>>> > >of tropical timber. This timber comes from trees cut down in other

>>> > >parts of Asia, such as Indonesia, which destroys orangutan habitat.

>>> > >Do purchase official Olympic souvenirs or handicrafts that are not

>>> > >made from animals or wild plants. Chinese merchants carry ornate,

>>> > >metal objects (jewelry, vases, etc.), rock carvings of people and

>>> > >animals, objects made from beautifully woven cloth (purses, scarves,

>>> > >shirts, ties, etc.), tea, pottery and hand-made papers.

>>> > >-30-

>>> > >Media Contact: Kristen Everett, 301-721-6440,

>>> > ><<keverett%40humanesociety.org>keverett

>>> <keverett%40humanesociety.org>

>> >

>> <keverett%40humanesociety.org>><keverett%40humanesociety.org>ke

>> verett <keverett%40humanesociety.org>

>> > <keverett%40humanesociety.org>

>>> > >Humane Society International is the international arm of The Humane

>>> > >Society of the United States, the nation's largest animal protection

>>> > >organization - backed by 10.5 million Americans, or one of every 30.

>>> > >For more than a half-century, The HSUS has been fighting for the

>>> > >protection of all animals through advocacy, education, and hands-on

>>> > >programs. Celebrating animals and confronting cruelty - On the web at

>>> > ><<http://www.humanesociety.org/

>> > <http://www.humanesociety.org/>>http://www.humanesociety.org/

>> > <http://www.humanesociety.org/>><http://humanesociety.org/

>> > <http://humanesociety.org/>>humanesociety.org.

>>> > >Humane Society

>>> > >International

>>> > >2100 L Street,

>>> > >N.W.

>>> > >Washington, D.C.

>>> > >20037

>>> > ><<http://www.humanesociety.org/

>> > <http://www.humanesociety.org/>>http://www.humanesociety.org/

>> > <http://www.humanesociety.org/>><http://hsihsus.org/

>> > <http://hsihsus.org/>>hsihsus.org

>>> > >Celebrating Animals, Confronting

>>> > >Cruelty

>

August 6, 2008

There is Chinese saying

" The Chinese eat everything with four legs, except tables -- and everything that

flies except airplanes! "

& here are some extracts from mail I received

" The Guolizhuang Restaurant in Beijing. There are four franchises in the city

alone, and the chain is expanding: there's one in Atlanta, Georgia, in

Chinatown. The Guolizhuang menu is a broad introduction to the medicinal

benefits of eating animal penises and testicles.. Ox penises help manliness.

They're cut along the side and shaped into little stars. The yak penis is served

with a dragon. In the Guolizhuang restaurant there are more than 30 different

animal penises on the menu. And for very special guests there's a list of

others. 'Henry's whip' is the house speciality at Beijing's Guolizhuang

restaurant. It's a sheep's penis on a stick covered in mayonnaise, sweet cheese,

served on a bed of lettuce. A platter of ox and dog penises. The consistency and

taste remind one of overly bitter rings of calamari, apparently. The penises are

often dipped in soy or hot sauce. For women, eating penises is supposed to be

good for the skin Donkey penis served on a bed of lettuce: For Chinese guests,

eating the sexual organs is not a test of courage, but rather a treatment for

the libido. At the Guolizhuang restaurant, customers can even order deer and

sheep fetuses. "

Regards,

Nilesh Bhanage

" The hands that help are holier than the lips that pray " .

August 6, 2008

A complete boycott of China with heavy pressure on the Chinese government in

the form of high import taxes on their goods in Western countries is one way

to go. Prosecuting their leaders in international courts on human rights

issues and stopping them from travelling in to our countries another one.

Not visiting China an easy one.

I won't buy goods from shops in my hometown that employ children, abuse

their staff or sell illegal stuff and so on. So why should we visit China?

Buy their goods? Have Olympic games (that supposed to embrace friendship and

peace) in a country that suppresses and kills its people?

I was just at the China-Laos border seeing THOUSANDS of WILD ANIMALS for

sale in Laos to be taken to China OPENLY, no one cared, not the Laos police

nor Chinese customs. Big business...

Everyone speaks about things getting better through " a dialogue " , well I

just see the latest report on human rights in China, things have gotten

worse although we have been talking a long time now. The illegal wildlife

trade is worse then ever as people are getting richer in China and the

government does not care at all. South and South-east Asian countries'

wildlife is being stolen from their forests at an increasing rate all going

to China and some suggest we should visit China and " talk " . By the time the

majority of people see that talking doesn't work it might be too late for

some species of wildlife.

I don't know enough about animal welfare in China, but I can only guess...

Edwin Wiek

Wildlife Friends Foundation Thailand

www.wfft.org

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Herojig

Wednesday, 06 August, 2008 1:44 PM

Jill Robinson; Kim Bartlett

Cc: aapn

Re: more on how to Remain Humane at the Olympics in China