Guest guest Posted January 12, 2009 Report Share Posted January 12, 2009 They thought my dog had Parvo recently - despite being a 3yr old and having had the vaccine. The vaccine - like ALL vaccines - canine, human or otherwise - is not a guarantee. Most vaccines are about 85% effective. There was a parvo outbreak here recently too - all with vaccinated dogs. I dont know about virus " mutating-fast " but it sounds to me like an excuse from a vet to make you feel better to me. And my dog turned out to have some gastro thing anyway - not parvo. 2009/1/12 lucia de vries <luciadevries > Four days ago my 3-months old otherwise very healthy puppy came down > with > parvo. Nothing unusual in Nepal apart from the fact that the puppy had > received DHPPL vaccine on December 7, and again a booster 10 days ago. In > between it got anti-rabies vaccine. In this case they came from Holland but > I have used American vaccines for my other dogs. > > According to the vet parvo is a common disease even among fully vaccinated > pets. He says parvo is mutating fast and that the imported vaccines (from > Europe and US) are insufficient. > > Who can shed his/her light on this issue? Which vaccines can be > recommended? > Does any research take place in Asia into new strands of parvo? What > measures should be taken to prevent parvo in unhygienic countries such as > Nepal apart from basic cleanliness? > > -- > Lucia de Vries > Freelance Journalist > Bagdol, Patan, Nepal > Wijk 4-47, 8321 GE Urk, Holland Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 12, 2009 Report Share Posted January 12, 2009 >Most vaccines are about 85% effective. The problem usually isn't the vaccine. Most modern vaccines are 100% effective when manufactured. The problem is storage and transport. In the case of rabies vaccines, they absolutely must be kept cool -- but especially in the warmer parts of the world, with erratic electricity to power refrigerators, they get warm & become ineffective. Then people come to mistrust the vaccination process, when the real problem is the electrical grid, or lack thereof. -- Merritt Clifton Editor, ANIMAL PEOPLE P.O. Box 960 Clinton, WA 98236 Telephone: 360-579-2505 Fax: 360-579-2575 E-mail: anmlpepl Web: www.animalpeoplenews.org [ANIMAL PEOPLE is the leading independent newspaper providing original investigative coverage of animal protection worldwide, founded in 1992. Our readership of 30,000-plus includes the decision-makers at more than 10,000 animal protection organizations. We have no alignment or affiliation with any other entity. $24/year; for free sample, send address.] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 12, 2009 Report Share Posted January 12, 2009 Transport and storage is definitely a problem in South Asia. In Nepal we now have 16 hours of load shedding per day. Inverters cannot be recharged properly which means that vets, in order to run a fridge full time, have to buy generators. That simply doesn't happen. I guess no anti-parvo vaccines are produced in India or any other Asian country? Another thing I am learning is that in Nepal we might have to upgrade our vaccination schedules. One website (http://www.workingdogs.com/parvofaq.htm) suggests parvo vaccinations should be provided every 3-4 weeks when the puppy is 6 weeks old. On the other hand - I did that and puppy still got the disease. On Mon, Jan 12, 2009 at 3:59 PM, Merritt Clifton <anmlpeplwrote: > >Most vaccines are about 85% effective. > > The problem usually isn't the vaccine. Most modern vaccines > are 100% effective when manufactured. The problem is storage and > transport. > > In the case of rabies vaccines, they absolutely must be kept > cool -- but especially in the warmer parts of the world, with > erratic electricity to power refrigerators, they get warm & become > ineffective. Then people come to mistrust the vaccination process, > when the real problem is the electrical grid, or lack thereof. > > -- > Merritt Clifton > Editor, ANIMAL PEOPLE > P.O. Box 960 > Clinton, WA 98236 > > Telephone: 360-579-2505 > Fax: 360-579-2575 > E-mail: anmlpepl <anmlpepl%40whidbey.com> > Web: www.animalpeoplenews.org > > [ANIMAL PEOPLE is the leading independent newspaper providing > original investigative coverage of animal protection worldwide, > founded in 1992. Our readership of 30,000-plus includes the > decision-makers at more than 10,000 animal protection organizations. > We have no alignment or affiliation with any other entity. $24/year; > for free sample, send address.] > > -- Lucia de Vries Freelance Journalist Bagdol, Patan, Nepal Wijk 4-47, 8321 GE Urk, Holland Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 12, 2009 Report Share Posted January 12, 2009 >Another thing I am learning is that in Nepal we might have to upgrade our >vaccination schedules. One website (http://www.workingdogs.com/parvofaq.htm) >suggests parvo vaccinations should be provided every 3-4 weeks when the >puppy is 6 weeks old. On the other hand - I did that and puppy still got the >disease. Vaccines only work against diseases to which the vaccinated individual has had no exposure. If your puppy had already been exposed to parvo, & was already incubating it when the vaccination schedule started, it would have done no good. This is why it is important to vaccinate animals & humans at the earliest practicable time. -- Merritt Clifton Editor, ANIMAL PEOPLE P.O. Box 960 Clinton, WA 98236 Telephone: 360-579-2505 Fax: 360-579-2575 E-mail: anmlpepl Web: www.animalpeoplenews.org [ANIMAL PEOPLE is the leading independent newspaper providing original investigative coverage of animal protection worldwide, founded in 1992. Our readership of 30,000-plus includes the decision-makers at more than 10,000 animal protection organizations. We have no alignment or affiliation with any other entity. $24/year; for free sample, send address.] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 13, 2009 Report Share Posted January 13, 2009 Lucia, I am sorry that your puppy became ill. I hope that he survived? It is a terrible illness. The failure of the vaccine to protect the puppy may be due to degeneration, and therefore ineffectiveness, of the vaccine due to improper storage, and it may also be due to the mutation of the virus. The local veterinarian is correct: the virus does mutate quickly and as veterinarians we have to be on guard for new strains of virus that are evading current vaccines or (in the case of bacteria) antibiotics. It is important for the local veterinarians to note if suddenly many vaccinated dogs are coming down with parvo. They also need to be sure that the disease really is parvo and not a gastroenteritis caused by something else. If vaccine break-throughs are occurring, they should enlist the collaboration of a virology laboratory at a university to isolate and characterise the new virus so that we know what we are dealing with. Many wild animals, including many endangered species, are also susceptible to parvovirus, and so we need to know if new strains are emerging that may threaten endangered populations of wildlife. If the puppy is with the mother until 8 weeks of age, we normally vaccinate between 6 and 16 weeks of age at 3 week intervals. The vaccine should be made of a modified live virus unless there is some concern about the immunocompetence of the puppy, in which case use a killed vaccine. Some vaccines that are produced in-country are protective, and some are not. Usually it is difficult to know because quality control of the vaccine production is generally poor, if there is any at all. Kati Loeffler, DVM, PhD IFAW-China Beijing On Mon, Jan 12, 2009 at 8:26 PM, lucia de vries <luciadevrieswrote: > Transport and storage is definitely a problem in South Asia. In Nepal we > now > have 16 hours of load shedding per day. Inverters cannot be recharged > properly which means that vets, in order to run a fridge full time, have to > buy generators. That simply doesn't happen. > > I guess no anti-parvo vaccines are produced in India or any other Asian > country? > > Another thing I am learning is that in Nepal we might have to upgrade our > vaccination schedules. One website ( > http://www.workingdogs.com/parvofaq.htm) > suggests parvo vaccinations should be provided every 3-4 weeks when the > puppy is 6 weeks old. On the other hand - I did that and puppy still got > the > disease. > > On Mon, Jan 12, 2009 at 3:59 PM, Merritt Clifton <anmlpepl<anmlpepl%40whidbey.com>>wrote: > > > > >Most vaccines are about 85% effective. > > > > The problem usually isn't the vaccine. Most modern vaccines > > are 100% effective when manufactured. The problem is storage and > > transport. > > > > In the case of rabies vaccines, they absolutely must be kept > > cool -- but especially in the warmer parts of the world, with > > erratic electricity to power refrigerators, they get warm & become > > ineffective. Then people come to mistrust the vaccination process, > > when the real problem is the electrical grid, or lack thereof. > > > > -- > > Merritt Clifton > > Editor, ANIMAL PEOPLE > > P.O. Box 960 > > Clinton, WA 98236 > > > > Telephone: 360-579-2505 > > Fax: 360-579-2575 > > E-mail: anmlpepl <anmlpepl%40whidbey.com> <anmlpepl% > 40whidbey.com> > > Web: www.animalpeoplenews.org > > > > [ANIMAL PEOPLE is the leading independent newspaper providing > > original investigative coverage of animal protection worldwide, > > founded in 1992. Our readership of 30,000-plus includes the > > decision-makers at more than 10,000 animal protection organizations. > > We have no alignment or affiliation with any other entity. $24/year; > > for free sample, send address.] > > > > > > -- > Lucia de Vries > Freelance Journalist > Bagdol, Patan, Nepal > Wijk 4-47, 8321 GE Urk, Holland > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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