Guest guest Posted July 11, 2008 Report Share Posted July 11, 2008 Considering that animal-trafficking and the illegal trade in wild animals is the third largest " industry " in the world after arms and drugs, and considering that there is so much corruption in the ranks of those who are supposed to be protecting these animals, starting with the lowest forest officials right upto and including the highest politicians of the land, is it any wonder that animal protectors are being targetted so that the illegal trade can continue? S. Chinny Krishna aapn [aapn ]On Behalf Of antoniuni1 Friday, July 11, 2008 6:44 PM aapn Breaking news concerning the raid of Thai officials to confiscate Orangutans bro Yesterday Edwin Wiek, the director of the Center, was confined to 8 months jail on probation and Baht 20.000 (around 400 Euro) for his “crime†to give Orangutans provisional shelter waiting to be sent back to Indonesia. He gave shelter because he was already long involved to finalize the scandal of 54 Orangutans being smuggled from Indonesia and being abused in Safari World in Bangkok. More: http://mistifarang.wordpress.com/category/animal-abuse-in-thailand/various -animal-abuse/ Were it not better to concentrate much more at the ongoing poaching, killing, animal-trafficking, transit and the illegal trade in protected animals, more than trying a well-known animal-protector behind bars?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 11, 2008 Report Share Posted July 11, 2008 This is very unfortunate and sad news. I just hope he comes out fast and continues the good work for wildlife. Having known Edwin's contribution to the wildlife of Asia and specially having teamed up with him to stop an illegal animal exchange of Orangutans from Thailand to India I personally feel that Edwin is very passionate about wildlife. I wish him good luck and strength on this crisis. Azam Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 11, 2008 Report Share Posted July 11, 2008 Hi Ton, Thank you for your support in this matter. Just for the record; I was again convicted in my appeal to 8 months suspended jail and a fine of 20,000 Baht (app.. US700.-) for the illegal possession of wildlife. The wildlife in question here were actually 10 monkeys (long tailed macaques) rescued from a temple with police and forestry people present on the day of rescue and two bears from a small zoo on Koh Samui Island. The problem with the monkeys was that some small details in the paperwork were not correct. The two bears were taken from the zoo as they were both very sick and after treatment were not returned to the zoo, the zoo did not wish them back there. All other wildlife in the earlier verdict were cleared b the court as " legally obtained " . We still believe that this " raid " was payback for a case we campaigned for of orang-utan smuggling by a very powerful zoo and entertainment park owner in Bangkok, a personal friend of the then prime-minister of Thailand. He had 115 orang-utans confiscated from his park and after years of fighting for the case we were able to repatriate 53 of these 115 orang-utans back to Borneo, the rest died mysteriously during the period of 4 years... What is significant about this case is that the penalty I received is higher than some other cases; An Indian shatoosh trader was convicted last year with only a fine of 10,000 Baht. Safariworld had to return the illegal orang-utans but never went to court, and was never fined or got any punishment at all. A man selling gibbons, bears and tigers over the internet got a 10,000 Baht fine and got 3 months suspended jail a few months ago. Traders at Bangkok's JJ or Chatuchak market continue selling wildlife openly and get every now and then fined, but never do any time at all. Dr Chinny Krishna got it right there, attacking people like us will be the way to protect the real bad guys, the bread and butter of corrupt scum. I am happy to see that over the last few months our relationship with the government is getting better with joint projects and better cooperation. It is a pity that some rotten apples in the government can not be removed to clear their overall image. I know there also some good people in there, problem is that it is like fruit, the biggest (read highest level) ones are the most likely the most rotten. Up to the supreme court now... Edwin Wiek WFFT _____ aapn [aapn ] On Behalf Of antoniuni1 Friday, 11 July, 2008 8:14 PM aapn Breaking news concerning the raid of Thai officials to confiscate Orangutans bro Yesterday Edwin Wiek, the director of the Center, was confined to 8 months jail on probation and Baht 20.000 (around 400 Euro) for his “crime†to give Orangutans provisional shelter waiting to be sent back to Indonesia. He gave shelter because he was already long involved to finalize the scandal of 54 Orangutans being smuggled from Indonesia and being abused in Safari World in Bangkok. More: http://mistifarang. <http://mistifarang.wordpress.com/category/animal-abuse-in-thailand/various-anim\ al-abuse/> wordpress.com/category/animal-abuse-in-thailand/various-animal-abuse/ Were it not better to concentrate much more at the ongoing poaching, killing, animal-trafficking, transit and the illegal trade in protected animals, more than trying a well-known animal-protector behind bars?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 12, 2008 Report Share Posted July 12, 2008 Dear Edwin, We all support you in ur efforts! Please tell me what we can do to help you? A Campaign? A Letter writing? An protest E-mail? Regards, Nilesh Bhanage “The hands that help are holier than the lips that prayâ€. Edwin Wiek [edwin.wiek] Friday, July 11, 2008 9:15 PM 'antoniuni1' Cc: aapn RE: Breaking news concerning the raid of Thai officials to confiscate Orangutans bro Hi Ton, Thank you for your support in this matter. Just for the record; I was again convicted in my appeal to 8 months suspended jail and a fine of 20,000 Baht (app.. US700.-) for the illegal possession of wildlife. The wildlife in question here were actually 10 monkeys (long tailed macaques) rescued from a temple with police and forestry people present on the day of rescue and two bears from a small zoo on Koh Samui Island. The problem with the monkeys was that some small details in the paperwork were not correct. The two bears were taken from the zoo as they were both very sick and after treatment were not returned to the zoo, the zoo did not wish them back there. All other wildlife in the earlier verdict were cleared b the court as " legally obtained " . We still believe that this " raid " was payback for a case we campaigned for of orang-utan smuggling by a very powerful zoo and entertainment park owner in Bangkok, a personal friend of the then prime-minister of Thailand. He had 115 orang-utans confiscated from his park and after years of fighting for the case we were able to repatriate 53 of these 115 orang-utans back to Borneo, the rest died mysteriously during the period of 4 years... What is significant about this case is that the penalty I received is higher than some other cases; An Indian shatoosh trader was convicted last year with only a fine of 10,000 Baht. Safariworld had to return the illegal orang-utans but never went to court, and was never fined or got any punishment at all. A man selling gibbons, bears and tigers over the internet got a 10,000 Baht fine and got 3 months suspended jail a few months ago. Traders at Bangkok's JJ or Chatuchak market continue selling wildlife openly and get every now and then fined, but never do any time at all. Dr Chinny Krishna got it right there, attacking people like us will be the way to protect the real bad guys, the bread and butter of corrupt scum. I am happy to see that over the last few months our relationship with the government is getting better with joint projects and better cooperation. It is a pity that some rotten apples in the government can not be removed to clear their overall image. I know there also some good people in there, problem is that it is like fruit, the biggest (read highest level) ones are the most likely the most rotten. Up to the supreme court now... Edwin Wiek WFFT _____ aapn <aapn%40> [aapn <aapn%40> ] On Behalf Of antoniuni1 Friday, 11 July, 2008 8:14 PM aapn <aapn%40> Breaking news concerning the raid of Thai officials to confiscate Orangutans bro Yesterday Edwin Wiek, the director of the Center, was confined to 8 months jail on probation and Baht 20.000 (around 400 Euro) for his “crime†to give Orangutans provisional shelter waiting to be sent back to Indonesia. He gave shelter because he was already long involved to finalize the scandal of 54 Orangutans being smuggled from Indonesia and being abused in Safari World in Bangkok. More: http://mistifarang. <http://mistifarang.wordpress.com/category/animal-abuse-in-thailand/various-anim\ al-abuse/ <http://mistifarang.wordpress.com/category/animal-abuse-in-thailand/various-anim\ al-abuse/> > wordpress.com/category/animal-abuse-in-thailand/various-animal-abuse/ Were it not better to concentrate much more at the ongoing poaching, killing, animal-trafficking, transit and the illegal trade in protected animals, more than trying a well-known animal-protector behind bars?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 14, 2008 Report Share Posted July 14, 2008 This is very unfortunate Edwin and whats sadder is to see that this is the trend all around the world. There is always a lobby trying to malign you no matter what you do in this field. Be it a clash of egos, personnel vendetta, trying to outwit the other, jealousy....there is always some1/ group of people trying to pull you down. As Nilesh said, if there is something at all that we could do, feel free to let us know! Regards, Pablo. On 7/11/08, Edwin Wiek <edwin.wiek wrote: > > Hi Ton, > > Thank you for your support in this matter. Just for the record; I was again > convicted in my appeal to 8 months suspended jail and a fine of 20,000 Baht > (app.. US700.-) for the illegal possession of wildlife. The wildlife in > question here were actually 10 monkeys (long tailed macaques) rescued from a > temple with police and forestry people present on the day of rescue and two > bears from a small zoo on Koh Samui Island. The problem with the monkeys was > that some small details in the paperwork were not correct. The two bears > were taken from the zoo as they were both very sick and after treatment were > not returned to the zoo, the zoo did not wish them back there. All other > wildlife in the earlier verdict were cleared b the court as " legally > obtained " . > > We still believe that this " raid " was payback for a case we campaigned for > of orang-utan smuggling by a very powerful zoo and entertainment park owner > in Bangkok, a personal friend of the then prime-minister of Thailand. He had > 115 orang-utans confiscated from his park and after years of fighting for > the case we were able to repatriate 53 of these 115 orang-utans back to > Borneo, the rest died mysteriously during the period of 4 years... > > What is significant about this case is that the penalty I received is > higher than some other cases; > An Indian shatoosh trader was convicted last year with only a fine of > 10,000 Baht. > Safariworld had to return the illegal orang-utans but never went to court, > and was never fined or got any punishment at all. > A man selling gibbons, bears and tigers over the internet got a 10,000 Baht > fine and got 3 months suspended jail a few months ago. > Traders at Bangkok's JJ or Chatuchak market continue selling wildlife > openly and get every now and then fined, but never do any time at all. > > Dr Chinny Krishna got it right there, attacking people like us will be the > way to protect the real bad guys, the bread and butter of corrupt scum. I am > happy to see that over the last few months our relationship with the > government is getting better with joint projects and better cooperation. It > is a pity that some rotten apples in the government can not be removed to > clear their overall image. I know there also some good people in there, > problem is that it is like fruit, the biggest (read highest level) ones are > the most likely the most rotten. > > Up to the supreme court now... > > Edwin Wiek > WFFT > > > _____ > > aapn <aapn%40> [ > aapn <aapn%40>] On Behalf Of antoniuni1 > Friday, 11 July, 2008 8:14 PM > aapn <aapn%40> > Breaking news concerning the raid of Thai officials to > confiscate Orangutans bro > > Yesterday Edwin Wiek, the director of the Center, was confined to 8 > months jail on probation and Baht 20.000 (around 400 Euro) for his > “crime†to give Orangutans provisional shelter waiting to be sent back > to Indonesia. He gave shelter because he was already long involved to > finalize the scandal of 54 Orangutans being smuggled from Indonesia > and being abused in Safari World in Bangkok. > > More: > > http://mistifarang. < > http://mistifarang.wordpress.com/category/animal-abuse-in-thailand/various-anima\ l-abuse/> > wordpress.com/category/animal-abuse-in-thailand/various-animal-abuse/ > > Were it not better to concentrate much more at the ongoing poaching, > killing, animal-trafficking, transit and the illegal trade in > protected animals, more than trying a well-known animal-protector > behind bars?? > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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